Author Topic: SquareD Part 6 Bumpers, Winches, wiring, lights, assembly (Read 456051 times)

Flyin6 · « **Reply #1250 on:** July 10, 2015, 09:19:29 PM »

Quote from: duramaxdarren on July 10, 2015, 07:33:09 PM

Fantastic fab work as per the norm.

Thank ya kindly!

Flyin6 · « **Reply #1251 on:** July 10, 2015, 09:21:21 PM »

The brown truck showed up and instead of putting that box on the shelf, I pulled these clevis mounts out and decided to just long term store them on the bumper.

Flyin6 · « **Reply #1252 on:** July 10, 2015, 09:23:32 PM »

Then back to the spare tire carrier. One more check to make sure the thing still fits. Welding heat has a way of making things migrate...like continental drift. You never see it but it's happening all the time

Flyin6 · « **Reply #1253 on:** July 10, 2015, 09:25:04 PM »

I wanted some adjustability in case I changed up wheels later, so I added these two suspension bumpers off of the Silverado, I think

Flyin6 · « **Reply #1254 on:** July 10, 2015, 09:26:24 PM »

The engine hoist came in handy, taking the place of the Deere tractor to hold everything in where it needed to be before welding it in

Flyin6 · « **Reply #1255 on:** July 10, 2015, 09:27:02 PM »

Welding complete:

Flyin6 · « **Reply #1256 on:** July 10, 2015, 09:27:48 PM »

And now for the tilt:

Wilbur · « **Reply #1257 on:** July 10, 2015, 09:28:01 PM »

Quote from: Flyin6 on July 10, 2015, 01:34:12 PM

Naw...Disapproved...Carry on!

Just curious...why? And I don't mean to sound like a smartass....you've already proven you're playing chess on this build where I'm playing checkers. But I am curious? And "because that's the way I want it" is entirely acceptable in my book! ;)

Flyin6 · « **Reply #1258 on:** July 10, 2015, 09:29:17 PM »

Quote from: Wilbur on July 10, 2015, 09:28:01 PM

Quote from: Flyin6 on July 10, 2015, 01:34:12 PM
Naw...Disapproved...Carry on!

Just curious...why? And I don't mean to sound like a smartass....you've already proven you're playing chess on this build where I'm playing checkers. But I am curious? And "because that's the way I want it" is entirely acceptable in my book! ;)

Mr. Will, just wait a few more posts and you'll have your answer
Sit tight!

Flyin6 · « **Reply #1259 on:** July 10, 2015, 09:31:16 PM »

The spare tire needs a catch as well, I decided to use the same latch I have been using all over. Here's the stack-up

Wilbur · « **Reply #1260 on:** July 10, 2015, 09:31:43 PM »

I'm like a kid on Christmas morn...my bad! Ha.

Read through a bunch of your stories this afternoon....thanks for sharing those. Really great stuff. And I think they would sell. Just sayin'

Flyin6 · « **Reply #1261 on:** July 10, 2015, 09:33:04 PM »

Quote from: Wilbur on July 10, 2015, 09:31:43 PM

I'm like a kid on Christmas morn...my bad! Ha.

Read through a bunch of your stories this afternoon....thanks for sharing those. Really great stuff. And I think they would sell. Just sayin'

Your answer is coming up, and I have to say that you were the one who made me think of this simple little mod which will keep everyone happy...stand by for a stand-by

Flyin6 · « **Reply #1262 on:** July 10, 2015, 09:34:07 PM »

And here it is assembled

Flyin6 · « **Reply #1263 on:** July 10, 2015, 09:37:21 PM »

Now, in response to Wilbur's concern, I was looking at that latch that pulls the top of the tailgate in tight. He was concerned that a passing branch could force the latch open. Now the safety plunger on the bottom would keep things closed but with all the weight on that gate, it might want to move.

After looking at it, it hit me. Just lock all those parts together...a simple clip like I use all over my tractor. So I drilled it and stuck in one of John Deere's finest and that locked it tighter than Obamas birth records!

Flyin6 · « **Reply #1264 on:** July 10, 2015, 09:39:08 PM »

The same treatment was given to the spare tire latch

Flyin6 · « **Reply #1265 on:** July 10, 2015, 09:41:55 PM »

Here's some views of the build so far. I measured the tire which went a bit over 18" from center to tread. The carrier is placed high and away from the taillight.

Flyin6 · « **Reply #1266 on:** July 10, 2015, 09:43:37 PM »

And that wraps up Build day #279

Wilbur · « **Reply #1267 on:** July 10, 2015, 09:51:27 PM »

Ha! Last night I was going to suggest almost that exact thing (I was thinking locking pin with the little ball in the shaft) and said to myself....you're already tormenting Don enough with your stupid a** questions. :-[ I like it...simple and effective!

Now if only getting BO's REAL birth certificate (and no....not his "certificate of live birth" for the NPR folks monitoring the site) were so easy we'd all be breathing easier at night....sheesh.

Flyin6 · « **Reply #1268 on:** July 10, 2015, 10:23:57 PM »

Quote from: Wilbur on July 10, 2015, 09:51:27 PM

Ha! Last night I was going to suggest almost that exact thing (I was thinking locking pin with the little ball in the shaft) and said to myself....you're already tormenting Don enough with your stupid a** questions. :-[ I like it...simple and effective!

Now if only getting BO's REAL birth certificate (and no....not his "certificate of live birth" for the NPR folks monitoring the site) were so easy we'd all be breathing easier at night....sheesh.

Yea, the Obama administration is SO transparent that you just see right past it instead of through it!
You think OB ever held a wrench? Changed oil? hammered a single nail?

akraven · « **Reply #1269 on:** July 10, 2015, 10:30:16 PM »

Great innovative work Don getting it all to work. I like how its coming together.

Wilbur · « **Reply #1270 on:** July 11, 2015, 01:46:14 AM »

Quote from: Flyin6 on July 10, 2015, 10:23:57 PM

Yea, the Obama administration is SO transparent that you just see right past it instead of through it!
You think OB ever held a wrench? Changed oil? hammered a single nail?

Well he has shown he knows how to use a screwdriver really well.....sad to say for all REAL Americans....

>:(

And thinking about your whole swing arm on the back....with the way you suggeated locking the bottom pin that really keeps any contents inside the bed pretty darn safe.

Flyin6 · « **Reply #1271 on:** July 11, 2015, 10:20:57 AM »

Quote from: akraven on July 10, 2015, 10:30:16 PM

Great innovative work Don getting it all to work. I like how its coming together.

Well, Alaska,
It aien't working just yet.

Getting there, but I'm not taking any credit until the fat lady sings and right now, she's not even in the building.

I was looking around for my hand winch, the one I once had on the "Tactical topper" if you were a part of that fiasco. I saved it and stored it...s o m e w h e r e

rasimmo · « **Reply #1272 on:** July 11, 2015, 11:02:18 AM »

Quote from: Flyin6 on July 11, 2015, 10:20:57 AM

I was looking around for my hand winch, the one I once had on the "Tactical topper" if you were a part of that fiasco. I saved it and stored it...s o m e w h e r e

If you didn't melt it down after that topper fiasco, red dog prolly ate it. Any part of the tac topper is cursed so just buy another one.

Flyin6 · « **Reply #1273 on:** July 11, 2015, 12:50:16 PM »

Quote from: rasimmo on July 11, 2015, 11:02:18 AM

Quote from: Flyin6 on July 11, 2015, 10:20:57 AM

I was looking around for my hand winch, the one I once had on the "Tactical topper" if you were a part of that fiasco. I saved it and stored it...s o m e w h e r e

If you didn't melt it down after that topper fiasco, red dog prolly ate it. Any part of the tac topper is cursed so just buy another one.

Yea, you're probably right...cursed...

JR · « **Reply #1274 on:** July 11, 2015, 01:43:16 PM »

Well the hand crank could power something he ate??

Wilbur · « **Reply #1275 on:** July 11, 2015, 03:43:24 PM »

Quote from: JR on July 11, 2015, 01:43:16 PM

Well the hand crank could power something he ate??

Oh no.....the Red Dog Mini-gun. The zombies won't stand a chance! Ha!

cudakidd53 · « **Reply #1276 on:** July 11, 2015, 07:56:50 PM »

Like the "hood pin" solution to the latches- get yourself some cables to hold the puns when out of the latch and your all set!

Flyin6 · « **Reply #1277 on:** July 11, 2015, 09:37:34 PM »

Quote from: cudakidd53 on July 11, 2015, 07:56:50 PM

Like the "hood pin" solution to the latches- get yourself some cables to hold the puns when out of the latch and your all set!

I plan to!

Oh and guess what we've been finding in the yard??? You guessed it!

One .22 round ended up in the driveway and a truck ran it over, scarring it, or maybe those were teeth marks. But it didn't go off. I cut grass today. Thought about sitting on a flack jacket, but with that super thick deck, It was all good...and no unintentional discharges so far...

cudakidd53 · « **Reply #1278 on:** July 12, 2015, 08:19:18 AM »

Quote from: Flyin6 on July 11, 2015, 09:37:34 PM

Quote from: cudakidd53 on July 11, 2015, 07:56:50 PM
Like the "hood pin" solution to the latches- get yourself some cables to hold the puns when out of the latch and your all set!
I plan to!

Oh and guess what we've been finding in the yard??? You guessed it!

One .22 round ended up in the driveway and a truck ran it over, scarring it, or maybe those were teeth marks. But it didn't go off. I cut grass today. Thought about sitting on a flack jacket, but with that super thick deck, It was all good...and no unintentional discharges so far...

Time to go to your local rental center and set the Pre-Rangers up with a metal detector and a mission for a few hours- kinda like mine sweeping detail!

HuskerTrev · « **Reply #1279 on:** July 12, 2015, 11:52:58 AM »

Loving the rear carrier! Keep up the good work!

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Flyin6 · « **Reply #1280 on:** July 12, 2015, 04:21:03 PM »

Quote from: HuskerTrev on July 12, 2015, 11:52:58 AM

Loving the rear carrier! Keep up the good work!

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Thank ya

cudakidd53 · « **Reply #1281 on:** July 13, 2015, 08:01:42 AM »

For the record:

I LIKED the Tac-Topper![/size]

Neat design, had the "contraption" angle to it that reminded me of the early "Little Rascals" movie vehicle with the articulated punching glove type stuff, and it was going to pack neatly back into itself!

Question Red Dog as to winches whereabouts- I suspect somewhere around the stoop from the garage into the house 'cause that'd be about where it'd land when you tossed it.........just saying!

Flyin6 · « **Reply #1282 on:** July 13, 2015, 08:18:00 AM »

Yesterday the Red Dog ran away!

Yippee!

No more red dog!!!!!!!!!!!

Then late last night the D@)&!! thing came home and was covered in sewer mixins!

We tied it up and power washed it. Should have drowned the thing...

D@)!&^!! dog! Its possessed

cudakidd53 · « **Reply #1283 on:** July 13, 2015, 08:33:00 AM »

Quote from: Flyin6 on July 13, 2015, 08:18:00 AM

Yesterday the Red Dog ran away!

Yippee!

No more red dog!!!!!!!!!!!

Then late last night the D@)&!! thing came home and was covered in sewer mixins!

We tied it up and power washed it. Should have drowned the thing...

D@)!&^!! dog! Its possessed

Don, you aren't connecting the DOTs!

Red Dog was on a RECON mission and had stocked up on ammo before heading out to battle the evil cats.......H.I.S.S. thought they'd cornered Red Dog, but having listened to your discussion on ingress and egress, went sub-grade to avoid detection and capture!

husker77c · « **Reply #1284 on:** July 13, 2015, 10:37:28 AM »

This is a little off the tire carrier topic but goes back to the in bed fuel tank. Have you thought about incorporating a setup to run waste motor oil or waste vegetable oil? I know to run it guys usually set up a filtering/refinement setup in their garage before dumping it into the tank. I've been thinking about how to set it up to work with the transfer tank after you run out of options for diesel i.e. When all your tanks are empty. Have a se t up to drain motor oil from dead vehicles/equipment and filter it onboard before putting it in the tank.

If you're having your guy build that tank you could have him put a drain plug on the very very bottom and then your fuel line an inch or so above that. That way you could filter the oil before it goes into the tank and let it sit in the tank for a few days then pop the bottom drain open to expel the water that separates from it and you would have an alternate source of fuel.

I'm probably going to try something like this when I get slowed down from work this winter. Not only for TEOTWAWKI but simply because it's pretty darn cool. I like fuel for less than a dollar a gallon.

Flyin6 · « **Reply #1285 on:** July 13, 2015, 10:55:56 AM »

Quote from: husker77c on July 13, 2015, 10:37:28 AM

This is a little off the tire carrier topic but goes back to the in bed fuel tank. Have you thought about incorporating a setup to run waste motor oil or waste vegetable oil? I know to run it guys usually set up a filtering/refinement setup in their garage before dumping it into the tank. I've been thinking about how to set it up to work with the transfer tank after you run out of options for diesel i.e. When all your tanks are empty. Have a se t up to drain motor oil from dead vehicles/equipment and filter it onboard before putting it in the tank.

If you're having your guy build that tank you could have him put a drain plug on the very very bottom and then your fuel line an inch or so above that. That way you could filter the oil before it goes into the tank and let it sit in the tank for a few days then pop the bottom drain open to expel the water that separates from it and you would have an alternate source of fuel.

I'm probably going to try something like this when I get slowed down from work this winter. Not only for TEOTWAWKI but simply because it's pretty darn cool. I like fuel for less than a dollar a gallon.

Well, several things here
First, when I was talking with the guy building the engine and injection pump, I specified a wide range of fuels. I wanted a true multifuel engine with the pump able to digest from diluted motor oil on the low end of the curve upward to jet gas on the top end and most everything in-between. That includes all the regular fuels and vegetable oils, auto trans fluid and things like that.

A 12 valve Cummins engine will readily digest motor oil! Pour it through a cheese cloth strainer and then pour it into your diesel tank. The engine will run.

I have explored making my own diesel fuel, and that amounts to around a $1500 investment and a supply of waste grease fryer oil. The machine I envision would make about 60 gallons of fuel a day, but contain a bit more water than is normal. No big deal, just filter it at the engine.

As for the aux tank, talking with Dan, we decided to make the pickup from the top so as to eliminate future leak points. That tank will likely be the one that gets the mixed fuels whereas the 36 gallon main tank would get the purest fuel. The idea would be to start the engine on diesel fuel and allow it to warm up. Then switch it to the waste oil and transmission fluid and whatever else tank and operate the vehicle. At shutdown, I'd switch back to diesel to purge the other stuff from the system. Some of the alternate fuels, vegetable oil in particular starts to gel sooner at lower temps, which clogs fuel lines. so keeping that at temp is important. Additionally, I thought of wrapping a continuous loop of copper line around the exhaust pipe, then route it up through the aux fuel tank and fill it with anti-freeze. The fluid would naturally circulate due to convection and warm the heavier fuel on those cold days

husker77c · « **Reply #1286 on:** July 13, 2015, 11:19:01 AM »

Good ideas. My idea was to Tee off of the heater hoses and run hoses along the frame rail and into a U shaped piece of pipe in one of the fill holes. That way when your engine is up to temperature you would know your tank was as well. This would also help with gelling fuel. Although with winter blend fuel that wouldn't be as much of an issue.

Flyin6 · « **Reply #1287 on:** July 13, 2015, 11:24:41 AM »

Quote from: husker77c on July 13, 2015, 11:19:01 AM

Good ideas. My idea was to Tee off of the heater hoses and run hoses along the frame rail and into a U shaped piece of pipe in one of the fill holes. That way when your engine is up to temperature you would know your tank was as well. This would also help with gelling fuel. Although with winter blend fuel that wouldn't be as much of an issue.

The heater hose would work as well, but the copper loop requires nothing dedicated from the engine. I also wanted to heat the fuel tank because of the principle of thermal mass. If I was stuck in the back of the truck, that warmed up fuel tank would radiate heat for long into the night keeping my tooties warm and happy

TexasRedNeck · « **Reply #1288 on:** July 14, 2015, 12:07:07 AM »

Don, See the attached regarding diesel reaction with copper. Also WVO seems to have some issues with copper.

I would probably go stainless

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=3&ved=0CC0QFjACahUKEwiPqszS3tnGAhUKOogKHb0OCSE&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bp.com%2Fcontent%2Fdam%2Fbp-country%2Fen_au%2Fmedia%2Ffuel-news%2Flong-term-storage-diesel.pdf&ei=-YmkVc_JHYr0oAS9naSIAg&usg=AFQjCNFn-h-ciBGkSGfLSc9mpi7Q1cg4Kw&sig2=xyeYdr_yevK-eaP4I1r-3A&bvm=bv.97653015,d.cGU

Flyin6 · « **Reply #1289 on:** July 14, 2015, 09:48:03 AM »

Just learned something RN
Copper...
Accelerates fuel degradation
Kind of like what happens when introducing gays and transvestites into the active military...

'goodin!

Derailing my own thread (new concept...sort of like sino-masochism)
I knew of a certain government installation that stored diesel fuel long term...in water!
Yup a lake of diesel/water. Wouldn't burn and since diesel attracts water, well, they just gave it all it wanted.
Now the cool part
To reclaim the diesel, they ran it through a centrifuge. Water is heavier and got thrown off leaving freshly cleaned fuel. Then the water was filtered and used for washing, drinking, squirting your buddies and throwing on the cats!

duramaxdarren · « **Reply #1290 on:** July 14, 2015, 08:05:19 PM »

thats amazing.....nowadays the EPA and tree huggers would riot

Sammconn · « **Reply #1291 on:** July 14, 2015, 11:26:02 PM »

This is day three? with no updates...hope all is well.
I hope this doesn't mean an errant .22 went off!
I've been busy at the cabin, new outhouse going up, and sauna finishing up.
Will post em up in the next week if I get them done, if not progress report will be made.

Might as well throw in a weather report while I'm junking up the thread.
46 tonight, mid 60's for rest of week touching 70 on Thursday.
Had a few days of heat to get the d@!m bugs lit right up, fogging two or three times daily.
Fire weather is severe again this year. None nearby us at the moment, but our neighbours is Saskatchewan are burning something fierce. Got a few buddies in the thick of it protecting what's saveable, thoughts and prayers to them. It's quite bad for a few communities.

Can't wait to see some updates on square D! Like how it's turning out so far.

Flyin6 · « **Reply #1292 on:** July 15, 2015, 08:14:49 AM »

Well, it's been a busy few days. Andreas funeral took almost all day

Had to get the pre-rangers ready for summer camp and do some things with them before that.

Had unbelievable weather the past few days...violent thunder storms. Woke up yesterday with a neighbors trampoline in my front yard, well, what was left of it. Some metal tubes were torn into three pieces! The rain and storms were in and out yesterday all day and I really couldn't work, plus the heat and humidity are really bad.

Heat and humidity won't stop me, but combined with horizontal rain and trying to weld with a 220VAC line, well, I thought I do otherwise.

What I did do is to work on a church's security plan. I finished that yesterday and will present tonight. So work is getting done, just not on the squareness.

Atkinsmatt · « **Reply #1293 on:** July 15, 2015, 09:00:46 AM »

Glad the weather didn't treat you too bad. Look forward to seeing some updates.

Sammconn · « **Reply #1294 on:** July 15, 2015, 10:13:59 AM »

I knew there was concurrent activities ongoing.
Glad to hear you weathered the weather, completely get that.
Had lightning take the pole top transformer out one summer on the farm.
Stopped welding on a trailer to take a break as a small storm cell moved in. Lit the pole right up.
Was glad to be watching not working.

Look forward to progress once life gets out of your way again.

Flyin6 · « **Reply #1295 on:** July 15, 2015, 06:59:57 PM »

OK, got that tire carrier to work today!

Yep, really works with just some fussing when the tire meets the carrier and all that stuff is facing downward and you are having to align 100+ pound things using braille!

So this is the winch I selected. A nice little unit from Harbor Freight which was something around $25. This one because I wanted to run the nylon strap in lieu of cable and pulleys

Flyin6 · « **Reply #1296 on:** July 15, 2015, 07:00:54 PM »

It will route someway to eventually come out here

Flyin6 · « **Reply #1297 on:** July 15, 2015, 07:02:11 PM »

I cut the hook down to a nub, then drilled a 3/8" hole into what was left

Flyin6 · « **Reply #1298 on:** July 15, 2015, 07:03:29 PM »

This simple bar with two studs will capture the wheel and be the lifting "Hook"

Flyin6 · « **Reply #1299 on:** July 15, 2015, 07:04:18 PM »

I tabbed it for a double shear