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Re: Wood Fired Boiler Install
« Reply #200 on: October 16, 2018, 10:50:04 PM »
On to the outside of the house, I started drilling holes for the clamps I picked up which will hold the pipe assembly to the side of the house with TapCon screws
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« Reply #201 on: October 17, 2018, 03:19:15 AM »
Looks like a good days work, bet the rangers got a workout.

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« Reply #202 on: October 17, 2018, 07:19:54 AM »
I may be a day late & a dollar short, but if you ever run anything on the exterior of the house, consider this stuff:
https://www.rectorseal.com/fortress-standard-professional-grade-duct-fittings-moderate-price-point/

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« Reply #203 on: October 17, 2018, 08:06:02 AM »
I may be a day late & a dollar short, but if you ever run anything on the exterior of the house, consider this stuff:
https://www.rectorseal.com/fortress-standard-professional-grade-duct-fittings-moderate-price-point/

That's very nice

But, yea, day late to be exact!
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« Reply #204 on: October 17, 2018, 07:09:11 PM »
Well, got some more stuff done today.

First up, after buying some more 90 degree fittings, I finished the large garage heater water line installation. All that remains now is to run an electrical circuit out there to plug the thing into.
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« Reply #205 on: October 17, 2018, 07:10:51 PM »
Then after some finagling and loads of help from the pre-rangers, we hoisted that pipe assembly and fastened it to the wall
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« Reply #206 on: October 17, 2018, 07:14:25 PM »
I don't think it looks too out of place...

I was going to paint it the same color as the trim, but frankly with the cooler temps I was concerned with everything drying enough to be rough handled and scraped about while installing.

Getting those stubby ends of PEX ot bend to align was nearly impossible.

So I invented a tool to help me. I call it the "InHuman bending tool" since the amount of strength required to bend a 10" section of PEX is beyond human abilities
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« Reply #207 on: October 17, 2018, 07:15:30 PM »
The connections were eventually made on that 8/12 "ski slope" roof.
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« Reply #208 on: October 17, 2018, 07:16:12 PM »
And wrapped with foam insulation
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« Reply #209 on: October 18, 2018, 01:34:56 AM »
That looks pretty good for an add on.

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« Reply #210 on: October 18, 2018, 05:24:19 PM »
Not too shabby boss.
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« Reply #211 on: October 18, 2018, 06:12:19 PM »
I’m shocked, where’s the upgrades from stock? You know a higher pressure pump or suped up intake and exhaust?
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« Reply #212 on: October 19, 2018, 06:16:28 AM »
Pretty sweet there, Chief.  How close to firing it up?  And I need to get a couple of those ladder stand offs


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« Reply #213 on: October 21, 2018, 12:15:46 PM »
I’m shocked, where’s the upgrades from stock? You know a higher pressure pump or suped up intake and exhaust?
Just wait, you won't be disappointed...I'll make Tim Allen proud!
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« Reply #214 on: October 21, 2018, 12:17:53 PM »
Pretty sweet there, Chief.  How close to firing it up?  And I need to get a couple of those ladder stand offs


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Re: Wood Fired Boiler Install
« Reply #215 on: October 24, 2018, 08:57:12 AM »
I collected a small pile of nipples, street elbows, bushings, ball valves, adapters, an anode and some other things to do the plumbing and pump install onto the boiler. I'll get to that in a bit, after some more pond buildin'...
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Re: Wood Fired Boiler Install
« Reply #216 on: November 03, 2018, 06:33:31 PM »
Still pecking away at this thing. I could have easily finished it by now, but I've spend a good amount of time at the farm breaking things there.

Today I spliced into the upstairs bedroom outlets and light feed to power the big garage fan/ heat exchanger.

After completing the wiring in the roof cavity/attic area it was time to bring the power out to the garage through the wall. I am using the standard 3/4" electrical conduit
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« Reply #217 on: November 03, 2018, 06:34:28 PM »
Pulling the 12-2 wire is nobody's fun thing to do!
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« Reply #218 on: November 03, 2018, 06:36:02 PM »
The concept here is to run the hot lead down to this switch, mounted on the garage wall at a comfortable height. That switch powers an outlet located near the heater that I can plug in to.
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« Reply #219 on: November 03, 2018, 06:37:32 PM »
No, I did not walk beneath the ladder!

Then it was just the standard wiring busy work to get it all wired up and properly mounted
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« Reply #220 on: November 03, 2018, 06:48:06 PM »
I had a bunch of the foam pipe insulation left over from the attic work, so I might as well stick it onto the pipe that is in areas which may be cold.

So Now comes the part where I need to punch a hole through the foundation wall, all 10" of it to get the outdoor PEX connected to the lines for the primary loop. Beyond that, I need to bury those PEX lines and make the plumbing connections at the boiler. That is not as simple as just fitting a ninety degree street elbow and calling it a day. In all I have two pumps, and well over a hundred dollars worth of fittings and valves all required to plumb this thing the way Tim recommends. After that I'll only need to attach a chimney pipe, fill with water and stoke up a fire.

Oh and figure out how to add a second thermostat to the system so that I can control the boiler and keep the boiler temp threshold five degrees or so above the existing electrical system

What I end up with is now called a hybrid system. SHould the wood heat ever cease, then the electrical heat pump side of things will kick in and keep us warm.
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« Reply #221 on: November 03, 2018, 06:49:47 PM »
Oh, I test ran the overhead heater in the big garage. It really puts out a bunch of air flow. I can see it heating that cube PDQ. I look forward to nice heat without the kerosene fumes this winter...YIPPEE!
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« Reply #222 on: November 03, 2018, 06:59:49 PM »
Oh, I test ran the overhead heater in the big garage. It really puts out a bunch of air flow. I can see it heating that cube PDQ. I look forward to nice heat without the risk of blowing myself up this winter...YIPPEE!

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« Reply #223 on: November 03, 2018, 07:11:04 PM »
Sounds like plumbing a heli.
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« Reply #224 on: November 03, 2018, 07:30:47 PM »
Oh, I test ran the overhead heater in the big garage. It really puts out a bunch of air flow. I can see it heating that cube PDQ. I look forward to nice heat without the risk of blowing myself up this winter...YIPPEE!

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« Reply #225 on: November 04, 2018, 06:05:28 PM »
Time now to plumb in the business end of the boiler

Everything sits below this flat panel which is retained by these nice stainless/plastic thumb screws
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« Reply #226 on: November 04, 2018, 06:07:19 PM »
When Tim delivered the unit, he spent a goodly amount of time with me explaining everything. He labeled the various ports while we talked

First I'll add in the drain assembly containing the 42" sacrificial anode rod
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« Reply #227 on: November 04, 2018, 06:08:07 PM »
Just to give you an idea how large these 1" NPT fittings actually are:
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« Reply #228 on: November 04, 2018, 06:09:57 PM »
Most things, well all things affixing to the boiler water jacket start with a 1" NPT nipple. I use the teflon pipe dope on both thread surfaces
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« Reply #229 on: November 04, 2018, 06:11:11 PM »
To that I added a "T" and a spigot to a bushing so I could drain the tank annually, then another bushing to fit the 3/4" NPT Anode
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« Reply #230 on: November 04, 2018, 06:12:05 PM »
Slide and screw in the Anode and this assembly is complete
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« Reply #231 on: November 04, 2018, 06:14:25 PM »
Next up is the water return port which is located on the very top of the tank. The idea is to introduce the coldest water (Still very warm) to the hottest region of the water jacket to provide for PDQ heatin'

Tin provides you with a nipple, elbow, and maybe a 30" section of 1" pipe to serve as your connection point.
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« Reply #232 on: November 04, 2018, 06:15:45 PM »
The return assembly/manifold begins with a big brass ball valve
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« Reply #233 on: November 04, 2018, 06:18:18 PM »
Then is a build of nipples, "T"s, bushings, street elbows, another spigot (To drain) and finishes with two 1" PEX brass nipples that will connect to the subterranean PEX
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« Reply #234 on: November 04, 2018, 06:21:06 PM »
That leaves adding in two pumps, one for each circuit/loop of my more complex system. Note that a normal installation would use only one pump, and in fact use a smaller pump. Because of the elevation change of this setup, I opted for two of the large pumps which can be switched to one of three different flow rates. Even at the highest rate, the thing only draws 2.0 amps
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« Reply #235 on: November 04, 2018, 06:22:44 PM »
These things are very high quality and are rated for continuous operation with a minimum service life of 10 years. Many peeps out there are going to 15 years or better with these.
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« Reply #236 on: November 04, 2018, 06:24:47 PM »
Tim's boilers are fitted with two ports so you can heat two different things, like say, your house, and your shed/barn. Or your home, shed and driveway, or just about anything you can run a line to.
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« Reply #237 on: November 04, 2018, 06:25:58 PM »
Getting out of the tank is as simple as a nipple and a 90 degree street elbow
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« Reply #238 on: November 04, 2018, 06:27:54 PM »
Next you screw on one of the supplied ball valve/flange assembly. These attach to either end of the pump and seal with an O-ring and a thick rubber gasket as well.
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« Reply #239 on: November 04, 2018, 06:31:21 PM »
The 7/16" stainless hardware attaches at a slight angle. I found it best to bolt on the lower flange to the pump, then slide all that bees-wax into place at the top flange.

The pump obviously needs to be aligned with the intended flow direction as indicated by the arrow cast into the volute housing
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« Reply #240 on: November 04, 2018, 06:32:47 PM »
And here it is, with all pumps, valves and fittings. Not too compact and not too spread out. I'd call it just about right.
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« Reply #241 on: November 04, 2018, 06:33:50 PM »
I still need to wire it all in, but this it it for now until a hole and a couple of PEX lines shows up
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« Reply #242 on: November 04, 2018, 06:34:01 PM »
Looks like a reactor you setting up. Rods, cooling, pumps,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
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« Reply #243 on: November 04, 2018, 06:35:53 PM »
I'll have to cause some pain and injury to my wallet once again here.

That stub will get a base unit, followed by 3-4 chimney sections and a cap along with some support system to keep it all in the up and up when I bang into it with the mower.
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« Reply #244 on: November 04, 2018, 06:36:57 PM »
Looks like a reactor you setting up. Rods, cooling, pumps,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
It was built in Japan, fukushima or somewhere like that...
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« Reply #245 on: November 04, 2018, 06:46:10 PM »
Naw, we just blew them up!!

Looks good.
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« Reply #246 on: November 04, 2018, 06:48:52 PM »
Or oak ridge......
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« Reply #247 on: November 04, 2018, 11:35:16 PM »
Looks like a heavy duty set up, especially the pumps... awesome.
... except I thought the black insulation looked like some kind of GLO welds, at first glance of the first pic of the boiler. (around the bungs) ha!
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« Reply #248 on: November 05, 2018, 08:51:27 AM »
Looks like a heavy duty set up, especially the pumps... awesome.
... except I thought the black insulation looked like some kind of GLO welds, at first glance of the first pic of the boiler. (around the bungs) ha!
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« Reply #249 on: November 05, 2018, 08:52:40 AM »
I've been avoiding it, but sooner than later, I need to do some digging...
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