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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500
« Reply #100 on: November 19, 2018, 03:57:19 PM »
Don, the stub axles are retained in the housing with clips that supposed to just pull out, but don't like to.

I am running 35s with a level kit and trimmed fenders, no rubbing.
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« Reply #101 on: November 19, 2018, 03:59:34 PM »
Careful Big D, you know how those guys named Ken can be....
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« Reply #102 on: November 19, 2018, 04:51:47 PM »
His GF scares me more.
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« Reply #103 on: November 19, 2018, 06:20:38 PM »
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« Reply #104 on: November 19, 2018, 06:26:11 PM »
5 pages of talkin' and still no truck on my proper-tee!

Gossipers

So, yea, meee too, I know, yada, yada, yada

five pages of thread cloggin, and no Suburban! And, I just laid down some green over at OReillys for a Wix oil filter, some Mobil uno, some other chems and things to get me started buildin' a new driveway off memory lane with this next money pit.

Truck should be here in a few hours.
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« Reply #105 on: November 19, 2018, 10:09:39 PM »
OK, we now have a build thread with a truck!

It was delivered an hour ago, which was fast since it was picked up at the dealership somewhere around noon.

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« Reply #106 on: November 19, 2018, 10:13:00 PM »
Those marks on the side are part reflection and part road dust from the transport drive down

The paint is nearly flawless. I found one retouched area so far, a small one where a nick on one of the fender flares was retouched.

It has two key fobs, the owners manual, both wireless headsets, the remote for the rear video player, wheel and topper keys
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« Reply #107 on: November 19, 2018, 10:13:56 PM »
The leather is supple and without any tears, it looks nearly as good as the exterior
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« Reply #108 on: November 19, 2018, 10:14:42 PM »
This, however, will have to change!
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« Reply #109 on: November 19, 2018, 10:21:16 PM »
So thinking that topper can sport a hidden mini gun right?
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« Reply #110 on: November 20, 2018, 03:43:34 AM »
Hey, my ides already!!

I don't think the wheel well space is an issue as long as you fill it from the bottom and sides.

I can hear the TB crank debate starting again!
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« Reply #111 on: November 20, 2018, 02:00:32 PM »
So did square D just get shoved outside in the weeds to make room for this one?!?  :cry:

It does look really good though.  Kind of afraid to say I am also in the camp of "leave it alone".  It's probably the best example left.  But we all know you won't.  So at least let us watch the train wreck!  :popcorn:

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« Reply #112 on: November 20, 2018, 05:51:36 PM »
So did square D just get shoved outside in the weeds to make room for this one?!?  :cry:

It does look really good though.  Kind of afraid to say I am also in the camp of "leave it alone".  It's probably the best example left.  But we all know you won't.  So at least let us watch the train wreck!  :popcorn:

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« Reply #113 on: November 20, 2018, 08:23:17 PM »
So did square D just get shoved outside in the weeds to make room for this one?!?  :cry:

It does look really good though.  Kind of afraid to say I am also in the camp of "leave it alone".  It's probably the best example left.  But we all know you won't.  So at least let us watch the train wreck!  :popcorn:

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Gotta say I’m in the leave it camp too.
Maybe a bit more tire with a different backspace to allow a fit.

But since we all know what a big D oil change means...
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« Reply #114 on: November 20, 2018, 09:20:45 PM »
So did square D just get shoved outside in the weeds to make room for this one?!?  :cry:

It does look really good though.  Kind of afraid to say I am also in the camp of "leave it alone".  It's probably the best example left.  But we all know you won't.  So at least let us watch the train wreck!  :popcorn:
Square D has been parked at a shop a few miles away for months now lol.


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« Reply #115 on: November 20, 2018, 09:51:31 PM »
Well, I didn't buy it to leave it alone

I mean are you kiddin' me?

I can see, more and more that maybe it doesn't need to be transformed into a Bradley fighting vehicle but I JUST DON'T LIKE STOCK!

I'd be happy with subtle mods that work vs something that is way off of normal.

To me, that could be a 3" lift along with the correct offset wheels (Thinking 4.75" BS on a 9" wheel) 17" wheels instead of the 16" stockers and 33" tires. The tires would not be AT's but MT's because of the mud I have to work with, and I think I'll add a Grizzly locker out back. I can see building the trans some and going to a turbo setup on the engine but keeping it all quiet. I want something like an ARB bull bumper with a 12K winch and a rear bumper with a tire carrier. I want a roof rack where I can mount things like a tent and a bunch of additional lighting, although some may be hidden. I want seat covers, something perhaps water resistant, a nice GPS receiver, and the HID's I mentioned before. Aside from that, I plan to ditch the third row and kit the back cargo area out with some rescue/survival stuff leaving enough space for me to snuggle in a sleeping bag if I want to.

All of that will take a year or more to get done, while fitting those projects in with the farm, domestic stuff, church, family and who knows what. We'll see how it unfolds...

I didn't get to it today. I worked on my garage 7.5 hours, reconfiguring it to hold two big Chevies now. By the time I was done it was 1900 and I was pooped and frozen. The chicken my lovely wife cooked put the last nail in the coffin, I'm ready for my much needed beauty sleep!
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« Reply #116 on: November 20, 2018, 10:03:01 PM »
Beauty sleep, definitely something we can’t argue that big D doesn’t need....

I did notice my mini gun idea got filed in the oval file cabinet though!
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« Reply #117 on: November 20, 2018, 10:27:46 PM »
Do the tires in square D still have air? Did the shop owner that moved shop ever move the truck?


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« Reply #118 on: November 20, 2018, 10:35:14 PM »
Do the tires in square D still have air? Did the shop owner that moved shop ever move the truck?


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Ya know, I don't know. He said he was moving it some time ago, I just took him at his word, I never checked
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« Reply #119 on: November 20, 2018, 10:47:39 PM »
Do the tires in square D still have air? Did the shop owner that moved shop ever move the truck?


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Ya know, I don't know. He said he was moving it some time ago, I just took him at his word, I never checked

You should probably go get it and bring it home. Let it rest and protect concrete at home while you figure out the plan....

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« Reply #120 on: November 20, 2018, 10:51:13 PM »
I can confirm that it was moved......or stolen, it wasn’t in the same spot anymore last Friday.

Scratch that, nobody could have stolen it without a tow truck, owner must have moved it. :)


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« Reply #121 on: November 21, 2018, 01:23:41 AM »
Do we want to just dig a big hole farmside and plant it under a big oak tree?


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« Reply #122 on: November 21, 2018, 01:32:08 AM »
Maybe he could park it at the entrance of the farm and have it ready block the gate when SHTF!!

Store stuff in the back, extra diesel in the tanks and he never has to worry about blowing up the rear as Koot told him.

Now hear is a funny thing, I am liking the 6.2TD so far. Its no Dmax, but runs good.
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« Reply #123 on: November 21, 2018, 08:35:51 AM »
I started watching the walking dead series and I see old trucks like square D sitting in over grown grass and it just sounds like a good idea.  We park it in front of the gate at the hide, anyone who sees it recognizes it as a sign of safety ahead and can come with hands held high as we know done will be there to run us over with a green tractor


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« Reply #124 on: November 21, 2018, 09:28:17 AM »
I started watching the walking dead series and I see old trucks like square D sitting in over grown grass and it just sounds like a good idea.  We park it in front of the gate at the hide, anyone who sees it recognizes it as a sign of safety ahead and can come with hands held high as we know done will be there to run us over with a green tractor


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In all likelihood, the green tractor will be broken down.

I am seriously considering breaking it down into parts and selling to recoup my investment. I don't know if I have the time or "drive" to tackle that thing anymore. So much else that I do is more important. I mentioned that there is a "problem" with the thing that is nearly insurmountable, and aside from that when I finally get it done, it will only fit two peeps.

Kat suggested yesterday that I remove all the expensive parts, then install a "Normal" engine and transmission and give it to the oldest pre-ranger as his first "Car." That suggestion is actually gaining some traction in my mind...
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« Reply #125 on: November 21, 2018, 10:01:24 AM »
I think we move it to another state where that insurmountable mountain is much easier to pass with a simple phone call and a “lost something or another” filed.


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« Reply #126 on: November 21, 2018, 11:49:27 AM »
I started watching the walking dead series and I see old trucks like square D sitting in over grown grass and it just sounds like a good idea.  We park it in front of the gate at the hide, anyone who sees it recognizes it as a sign of safety ahead and can come with hands held high as we know done will be there to run us over with a green tractor


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Dave,

In all likelihood, the green tractor will be broken down.

I am seriously considering breaking it down into parts and selling to recoup my investment. I don't know if I have the time or "drive" to tackle that thing anymore. So much else that I do is more important. I mentioned that there is a "problem" with the thing that is nearly insurmountable, and aside from that when I finally get it done, it will only fit two peeps.

Kat suggested yesterday that I remove all the expensive parts, then install a "Normal" engine and transmission and give it to the oldest pre-ranger as his first "Car." That suggestion is actually gaining some traction in my mind...

So something such as a 318?

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« Reply #127 on: November 21, 2018, 01:21:41 PM »
318?


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« Reply #128 on: November 21, 2018, 01:34:46 PM »
Guessing he meant a v8 5.2L gasser?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrysler_LA_engine


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« Reply #129 on: November 21, 2018, 02:41:03 PM »
Guessing he meant a v8 5.2L gasser?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrysler_LA_engine

Yep, one of those. I’m pretty sure it was still an offering in 92, which I think is the model year of sq d. It’s definitely on the small scale of the V8s, but it would be a direct bolt in as far as I’m aware. However I may be wrong so don’t quote me :)

Or maybe the 5.9l that dodge also rocked many years?
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« Reply #130 on: November 21, 2018, 02:47:54 PM »
Sell those bumpers, shed about 1000lbs and then the 318 might be able to move it too.
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« Reply #131 on: November 21, 2018, 03:21:39 PM »
How about destroying the truck even more and slap in a 3 speed behind a 225 slant 6.
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« Reply #132 on: November 21, 2018, 04:17:17 PM »
I only suggest because I want to see a build thread based on one, not because it would really work very well with this big of a truck.  How about you drop in a cummins 2.8R crate motor and use a known good transmission that is designed to work with that engine.  At least you would avoid the engine and transmission concerns.  I think the rest of the truck works fine as it is.  Still probably want to take off the expensive parts and return it to a cheaper (more teenage friendly) version.

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« Reply #133 on: November 21, 2018, 04:43:53 PM »
So Tate what happens when the axle is hit with the punch?  Does it break the c clip?


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« Reply #134 on: November 21, 2018, 07:21:14 PM »
Sell those bumpers, shed about 1000lbs and then the 318 might be able to move it too.


It moves ours well enough! But ours also only weighed out at 5450!!!

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« Reply #135 on: November 21, 2018, 10:00:23 PM »
GOOD STUFF!! Ive always got a spot for family hauler that's done up just right and that's a good platform. I just sold my excursion  :cry: and went back to a duramax.. been a short 2 years ish.. but I just missed the truck so much.. but ill tell you my wife thought I was crazy that I was considering a DURABURB to replace the excursion..  CHEKC THIS OUT

https://kpr.craigslist.org/cto/d/duramax-suburban/6750240826.html

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« Reply #136 on: November 21, 2018, 10:52:01 PM »
I started watching the walking dead series and I see old trucks like square D sitting in over grown grass and it just sounds like a good idea.  We park it in front of the gate at the hide, anyone who sees it recognizes it as a sign of safety ahead and can come with hands held high as we know done will be there to run us over with a green tractor


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Dave,

In all likelihood, the green tractor will be broken down.

I am seriously considering breaking it down into parts and selling to recoup my investment. I don't know if I have the time or "drive" to tackle that thing anymore. So much else that I do is more important. I mentioned that there is a "problem" with the thing that is nearly insurmountable, and aside from that when I finally get it done, it will only fit two peeps.

Kat suggested yesterday that I remove all the expensive parts, then install a "Normal" engine and transmission and give it to the oldest pre-ranger as his first "Car." That suggestion is actually gaining some traction in my mind...

So something such as a 318?
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« Reply #137 on: November 21, 2018, 11:15:11 PM »
I started watching the walking dead series and I see old trucks like square D sitting in over grown grass and it just sounds like a good idea.  We park it in front of the gate at the hide, anyone who sees it recognizes it as a sign of safety ahead and can come with hands held high as we know done will be there to run us over with a green tractor


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Dave,

In all likelihood, the green tractor will be broken down.

I am seriously considering breaking it down into parts and selling to recoup my investment. I don't know if I have the time or "drive" to tackle that thing anymore. So much else that I do is more important. I mentioned that there is a "problem" with the thing that is nearly insurmountable, and aside from that when I finally get it done, it will only fit two peeps.

Kat suggested yesterday that I remove all the expensive parts, then install a "Normal" engine and transmission and give it to the oldest pre-ranger as his first "Car." That suggestion is actually gaining some traction in my mind...

So something such as a 318?
No. a 6BT with the rotary pump, as in what came stock in it

Well shoot, I got a fully functional one of those in the garage!!! Call me sometime if that’s the route you want to go maybe I can afford to trade you.

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« Reply #138 on: November 22, 2018, 11:55:31 PM »
Nice looking suburban there Chief. A coworker of mine has just enough lift on a f150 to run 285/75r17 Toyos . I think they measure out around 34.5”. If I remember correctly he gained over 5” at the frame from stock with that setup. That is a darn good sounding compromise to me. A tire that size shouldn’t have any trouble clearing with this BDS 4.5” kit.

(the link will pull up the 7” kit but there a tab to see the 4.5” version)
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« Reply #139 on: November 23, 2018, 01:59:11 PM »
Nice looking suburban there Chief. A coworker of mine has just enough lift on a f150 to run 285/75r17 Toyos . I think they measure out around 34.5”. If I remember correctly he gained over 5” at the frame from stock with that setup. That is a darn good sounding compromise to me. A tire that size shouldn’t have any trouble clearing with this BDS 4.5” kit.

(the link will pull up the 7” kit but there a tab to see the 4.5” version)
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« Reply #140 on: November 27, 2018, 09:58:22 AM »
So Tate what happens when the axle is hit with the punch?  Does it break the c clip?


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« Reply #141 on: November 27, 2018, 10:02:11 AM »
GOOD STUFF!! Ive always got a spot for family hauler that's done up just right and that's a good platform. I just sold my excursion  :cry: and went back to a duramax.. been a short 2 years ish.. but I just missed the truck so much.. but ill tell you my wife thought I was crazy that I was considering a DURABURB to replace the excursion..  CHEKC THIS OUT

https://kpr.craigslist.org/cto/d/duramax-suburban/6750240826.html

whoa, that's in my neck of the woods and I'm still down a Yukon... hmmm.
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« Reply #142 on: November 27, 2018, 02:29:48 PM »
That's a deal for that. I'm at 160k and going strong.
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« Reply #143 on: November 27, 2018, 04:19:06 PM »
Can I have my thread for just a minute?

Thanks...

So I got started on the evaluation of the vehicle mechanically, and it is about what I expected.

I'll post pics this evening, but when I pulled a spark plug (Man, that was weird...haven't seen one of those things for a good while), I noted the electrode to be red. Haven't seen that before. Chocolate brown, yes, Black, yes, white, yes, but red? I also noted it to be gapped at a wide .065"

Next item: I noted the radiator coolant to be redish/orange and at the proper level. THe reservoir tank was somewhat cloudy and ugly looking inside, so I have decided to change the coolant. I think I'll install a new T-stat. What are the recommendations out there as to what temp T-stat to install.

I'm just working to baseline the truck for now. Unlike SquareD, I do not plan to tear it all down for three years, but, rather, drive it while it is being modded. By getting everything perfect, I can probably only have to react to problems I create, and not ones that are lurking and awaiting to entrap me in some distant mudhole!
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500
« Reply #144 on: November 27, 2018, 04:50:15 PM »
Don't remember red spark plugs but years ago when I had a little hot rod I ran Exxon Super Unleaded in when the timing was retarded for street use, it had a red dye and it turned the intake runners in the manifold and heads turn red.....

I'd keep the t stat at stock temp.  Too many computer controlled devices dependent upon coolant temp to chance a change in t stat temp.

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« Reply #145 on: November 27, 2018, 04:51:27 PM »
Oh and check/replace the heater hose connections at the firewall.  They are a plastic QD type and they break and fail and will leave you stranded.  You can run standard hose clamps and be fail proof.
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« Reply #146 on: November 27, 2018, 05:00:18 PM »
You know, thinking Don is getting soft in his older age. I mean we used to Dot for pages and now if someone comments about his stockish looking tires in one post he gets all uptight!  :popcorn:
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« Reply #147 on: November 27, 2018, 05:31:47 PM »
You know, thinking Don is getting soft in his older age. I mean we used to Dot for pages and now if someone comments about his stockish looking tires in one post he gets all uptight!  :popcorn:
Not uptight

Just a little hungry

Need a snickers...
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« Reply #148 on: November 27, 2018, 06:11:09 PM »


I’m fired


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« Reply #149 on: November 27, 2018, 06:29:13 PM »
ROFL
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