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According to POTUS....
« on: February 20, 2015, 11:16:48 AM »
(CNSNews.com) - We hear a lot about the United States' Judeo-Christian heritage, but according to President Obama, "Islam has been woven into the fabric of our country since its founding."

That's what the president told a White House conference on "countering violent extremism" on Wednesday.

Obama has said similar things in the past:

"I also know that Islam has always been a part of America’s story,” Obama said in a June 2009 speech in Cairo, Egypt. "Islam has always been part of America," he said in a 2010 statement marking the start of Ramadan. And in a 2014 statement marking Eid, Obama said the holiday "also reminds us of the many achievements and contributions of Muslim Americans to building the very fabric of our nation and strengthening the core of our democracy."

In his speech on Wednesday, Obama was making the point that Western nations must show that they "welcome people of all faiths," at a time when "extremists" are saying that Western nations are "hostile to Muslims."
"Here in America, Islam has been woven into the fabric of our country since its founding. Generations -- (applause) -- Generations of Muslim immigrants came here and went to work as farmers and merchants and factory workers, helped to lay railroads and to build up America.

"The first Islamic center in New York City was founded in the 1890s. America's first mosque, this was an interesting fact, was in North Dakota." (It was established in 1929).

Both of those milestones happened well after America's founding, however. In fact, the new nation's first dealings with Islam were tense and unpleasant.

According to a Heritage Foundation paper, shortly after America's founding, the United States "was dragged into the affairs of the Islamic world by an escalating series of unprovoked attacks on Americans by Muslim pirates, the terrorists of the era," who looted American ships and captured American sailors, holding them for ransom or selling them as slaves.

The paper notes that America's struggle with Muslim pirates from the Barbary States (modern-day Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia, and Libya) began soon after the 13 colonies declared their independence from Britain in 1776 and continued for roughly four decades.

In his remarks on Wednesday, President Obama said Muslim Americans now serve as police officers, firefighters, soldiers, "and in our intelligence communities and in homeland security."

He said Muslim American heroes are buried at Arlington National Cemetery, "having given their lives in defense of all of us."

"And, of course, that's the story extremists and terrorists don't want the world to know -- Muslims succeeding and thriving in America. Because when that truth is known, it exposes their propaganda as the lie that it is.

"It's also a story that every American must never forget, because it reminds us all that hatred and bigotry and prejudice have no place in our country. It is not just counterproductive. It doesn't just aid terrorists. It's wrong. It's contrary to who we are."

So-called hate crimes against Muslims escalated in this country after the terror attacks of September 11, 2001 -- attacks perpetrated by Islamic radicals -- but they have never reached the level of hate crimes against Jews, according to the FBI's annual Uniform Crime Reporting statistics.

In 2013, for example, 62.4 percent of hate crime victims were attacked because of anti-Jewish bias, while 11.6 percent were victims of anti-Islamic bias.

Compare that with the year before the 2001 terror attacks: In 2000, of the 1,699 victims of anti-religious hate crime, 74.6 percent were victims of an offender's anti-Jewish bias; and only 2.1 percent were victims of an offender's anti-Islamic bias.

President Obama on Wednesday stressed that U.S. is not at war with Islam:"We are at war with people who have perverted Islam,"  he said. 

He also said the West and Islam are not in conflict; and that Islam is not incompatible with modern life, although in the same speech he urged other countries to invest in the education of both males and females -- "because countries will not be truly successful if half their populations, if their girls and their women, are denied opportunity."

In a speech to the same summit on Thursday, Obama noted that many Americans don't personally know a single Muslim, and they form a distorted impression about Islam by what they hear on the news.

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/susan-jones/obama-islam-has-been-woven-fabric-our-country-its-founding
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Re: According to POTUS....
« Reply #1 on: February 20, 2015, 11:37:40 AM »
I will keep my comments to myself about this individual and what is coming out of his mouth.
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« Reply #2 on: February 20, 2015, 11:41:10 AM »
10-4... i did the same... just copy and pasted  ;)
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« Reply #3 on: February 20, 2015, 01:15:10 PM »
10-4... i did the same... just copy and pasted  ;)
I don't have to be so politically correct (any more)

And BTW God bless our warriors.

It is a well established FACT that our president is a liar. The list of lies is so long that listing them is problematic. And Islam is hardly any part of this nation any more than Eskimos were in the development of our national fabric or character. Navajo and Sioux Indians have done hundreds of times more for this nation than Islam ever did. We were involved with Islam in the late 1700's it is true, but only to the extent that our new navy needed to be to kill that scourge off and free up our shipping lanes.

Islam is not a religion, it is a theocracy. Islam at it's root requires everyone convert. If one does not convert the Koran requires the Muslim to destroy that person. So Muslims say, "Well, that is extreme and no body believes that." Well that is a lie as well, ISIS certainly believes it. But to the bigger point just how valuable is a faith that cannot be accepted in its totality by it's own people and still be acceptable to others?

Here's what I think: The Koran tells their people to come and kill the members of my church. Why? Because we can never convert, we are bought by the blood of Jesus Christ. So, by the letter of their word, they must kill us. So peace loving Muslims (Something I believe is only a temporary condition) have to disregard part of their Koran. So if they can dismiss that part because it it too extreme, then which parts are they good with? How would I or anyone else know? I mean the book says kill the Christian and Jew, doesn't it?

Their guide book for misery also says they can lie to further the cause of Islam. My guide book says nothing like that, mine says "Thou shall not tell a lie." So by the Koran's own words they can be liars, and it's OK. Again no such reference from the bible, and that is because the bible is a book of truth and the Koran is a book mixing up truths and lies. You know we all know the devil, Satan is the master of all lies, just sayin'...

Islam reduces productive cultures to poverty, slavery, and economic hardship for just about everyone. Anything the Islamic world ever did to contribute to the betterment of mankind almost has to be a lie or a mistake. Do I dislike them? Well, yes and that is because I can't stand to see grown men rape boys and they do that all the time over there. It is because I think it takes a coward to strike a woman, yet their so called men do it all the time. I can't stand mistreating children, yet Muslim men marry girls who are less than 10 years old, then have sex with them. That sickens me.

In my business some of my bros flew helicopters for the rich Muslims in the UAE, Saudi Arabia and places like that. A fair amount of that time they ferried prostitutes to their bosses in another country or out to a yacht. In Afghanistan the Bedouin men who had baby daughters born to them would sometimes bury the newborns out in the desert just to get rid of the future cost of marrying them off.

I'm sick of their men looking at me in a lewd manner when I try to go to the bathroom or lord forbid, take a shower. I never liked them whistling at me when as a US soldier I used to go out for runs prior to the desert war. I don't like how Arab women try to pick you up in Dubai because their husbands are more interested in other men or boys than their wives.

All in all, I see Islam as one HUGE LIE and an encroaching evil that threatens my lifestyle, my freedom, my safety, and my sanity. Islam does not belong in America, and it never has. But that's just me.
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