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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 4
« Reply #550 on: July 05, 2017, 11:28:13 PM »
Finally got caught up with this. Broken, fixin, welding, buying, digging and wall building.

That ought to provide for few days of water and even a shower or 2.

I like the mulch and rocks, looks homey.
Wife liked it too
She saw it all for the first time in a month, yesterday
She liked the stone steps and stone handy work
This^^ is an important bit...

Nice work on the trusses.
They should do the job just fine.
I just don't want to wind up missing a digit or limb.  I can sometimes get in a hurry to get results.
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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 4
« Reply #551 on: July 05, 2017, 11:59:56 PM »
That is alot of trusses with a little storage down the center.
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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 4
« Reply #552 on: July 06, 2017, 08:15:35 AM »
That's a lot of ciphering, you sure you're qualified for such things?
Questionable...

I think we are OK.


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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 4
« Reply #553 on: July 06, 2017, 11:12:20 AM »
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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 4
« Reply #554 on: July 06, 2017, 10:54:05 PM »
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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 4
« Reply #555 on: July 06, 2017, 10:55:50 PM »
Building these things is a fair amount of work!

Here's the process

Lay the base into the jig

Then the two top pieces

Glue and screw them together
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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 4
« Reply #556 on: July 06, 2017, 10:56:36 PM »
Then place in the uprights
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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 4
« Reply #557 on: July 06, 2017, 10:58:40 PM »
Then place the plate over its joint, mark it, apply a liberal amount of glue, then attach the plate with 2" deck screws
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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 4
« Reply #558 on: July 06, 2017, 10:59:00 PM »
Why would you leave the ends open? You have plenty of cedar bark cuttings to make some good looking gable ends


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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 4
« Reply #559 on: July 06, 2017, 10:59:55 PM »
Then flip it over and glue and screw the opposite plates onto the truss
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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 4
« Reply #560 on: July 06, 2017, 11:01:06 PM »
Why would you leave the ends open? You have plenty of cedar bark cuttings to make some good looking gable ends


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Just no need to close it in Dave, its a trellis. It will only have half walls of those huge stones, the rest will be a breezeway
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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 4
« Reply #561 on: July 06, 2017, 11:01:33 PM »
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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 4
« Reply #562 on: July 06, 2017, 11:02:20 PM »
Here's a detail of the screws and plate setup
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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 4
« Reply #563 on: July 06, 2017, 11:04:06 PM »
This guy was on me the whole time. If I dropped a chunk of wood, he'd have it and shred it. Crazy mutt collects sticks, rocks, socks, old water bottles, shoes, and leftover lumber pieces!
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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 4
« Reply #564 on: July 06, 2017, 11:04:38 PM »
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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 4
« Reply #565 on: July 06, 2017, 11:05:06 PM »
Next time I am paying for someone else to make the trusses!
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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 4
« Reply #566 on: July 06, 2017, 11:39:02 PM »
The half wall sounds good until the weather turns.

Those look solid!
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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 4
« Reply #567 on: July 06, 2017, 11:44:06 PM »
Next time I am paying for someone else to make the trusses!
Yes it sucks making them.
Your jig is how I did all mine out at the lake.
Only I used the building floor to screw the blocks to.

Time consuming, and hard on the back if I remember correctly.
Look good though.
I just don't want to wind up missing a digit or limb.  I can sometimes get in a hurry to get results.
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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 4
« Reply #568 on: July 06, 2017, 11:45:21 PM »
Next time I am paying for someone else to make the trusses!
Yes it sucks making them.
Your jig is how I did all mine out at the lake.
Only I used the building floor to screw the blocks to.

Time consuming, and hard on the back if I remember correctly.
Look good though.
Hard on the back and the knees!
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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 4
« Reply #569 on: July 06, 2017, 11:47:35 PM »
Two words

Sheeting gun.... (staples muy faster)

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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 4
« Reply #570 on: July 07, 2017, 09:42:30 AM »
Two words

Sheeting gun.... (staples muy faster)


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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 4
« Reply #571 on: July 07, 2017, 10:44:46 AM »
Two words

Sheeting gun.... (staples muy faster)


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I don't have a sheeting gun, but did use my air powered hammer.(framing nailee 2" nails)
Therefore only back ache from bending down.
Now screws, yeah knees too...
I just don't want to wind up missing a digit or limb.  I can sometimes get in a hurry to get results.
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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 4
« Reply #572 on: July 07, 2017, 10:52:56 AM »
Over the years, I have gravitated to building everything with screws. They provide so much more clamping force for operations such as gluing these panels to the structure. Really, the glue does all the holding, but the screws provide for a good clamp/bond, then always a great backup to just hold by themselves.

But I think I'll nail the trusses to the top band with ring shanked stainless 3" nails with my pneumatic nailer.
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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 4
« Reply #573 on: July 07, 2017, 10:55:50 AM »
Over the years, I have gravitated to building everything with screws. They provide so much more clamping force for operations such as gluing these panels to the structure. Really, the glue does all the holding, but the screws provide for a good clamp/bond, then always a great backup to just hold by themselves.

But I think I'll nail the trusses to the top band with ring shanked stainless 3" nails with my pneumatic nailer.
Off to Tractor Supply Company (I'm their biggest buyer :-) to pick up a new gate. That old 10 or 12 footer is not cutting the mustard. (Why would anyone want to cut mustard anyway??) I'm opting for two new treated posts, some black stain, and a brandly new 16' heavy equipment friendly gate.
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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 4
« Reply #574 on: July 07, 2017, 11:48:48 AM »
Over the years, I have gravitated to building everything with screws. They provide so much more clamping force for operations such as gluing these panels to the structure. Really, the glue does all the holding, but the screws provide for a good clamp/bond, then always a great backup to just hold by themselves.

But I think I'll nail the trusses to the top band with ring shanked stainless 3" nails with my pneumatic nailer.
Off to Tractor Supply Company (I'm their biggest buyer :-) to pick up a new gate. That old 10 or 12 footer is not cutting the mustard. (Why would anyone want to cut mustard anyway??) I'm opting for two new treated posts, some black stain, and a brandly new 16' heavy equipment friendly gate.


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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 4
« Reply #575 on: July 07, 2017, 12:48:35 PM »
New gate sound good, but are you running chief "through" it all the time?

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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 4
« Reply #576 on: July 07, 2017, 01:13:29 PM »
16 footers are nice but for equipment, two 10's is mo better.


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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 4
« Reply #577 on: July 07, 2017, 01:15:07 PM »
16 footers are nice but for equipment, two 10's is mo better.


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This^^
Two 10 footers are also easier on their posts.
I just don't want to wind up missing a digit or limb.  I can sometimes get in a hurry to get results.
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« Reply #578 on: July 07, 2017, 01:46:10 PM »
Very true. That extra 4' is especially handy when pulling a trailer and the approach is at an angle.


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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 4
« Reply #579 on: July 07, 2017, 01:55:58 PM »

Two 10 footers are also easier on their posts.

and we all know Don needs all the help he can get in this regard...  :grin:
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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 4
« Reply #580 on: July 07, 2017, 02:14:35 PM »
Steady as she goes folks

Big D has it handled in style!  :grin:

I picked up the single 16 footer as planned. Went with heavy duty 2" tubing in lieu of the 1 3/4" stuff of lighter steelment. (New Word)

Approach angle is straight on

Chief will use the gate some to do "Road" workage, but not often

I read that two 10 foot gates are for women, so I steered clear! ;-)

Back to work men, stop wastin' time thinkin' up dumb stuff and postin' it here on MY THREAD :-0
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« Reply #581 on: July 07, 2017, 03:01:09 PM »
Next time I am paying for someone else to make the trusses!

I take it you didn't get a quote from Lowes? I looked one time when pricing out a shed and I think I remember them being fairly inexpensive


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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 4
« Reply #582 on: July 07, 2017, 08:33:21 PM »
Next time I am paying for someone else to make the trusses!

I take it you didn't get a quote from Lowes? I looked one time when pricing out a shed and I think I remember them being fairly inexpensive


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I probably should have.

I get a 10% (mil) discount there which is always nice.

But I do know mine are pretty stout. You can't believe how much those plates and glue stiffens those things up.
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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 4
« Reply #583 on: July 07, 2017, 09:51:32 PM »
Next time I am paying for someone else to make the trusses!

I take it you didn't get a quote from Lowes? I looked one time when pricing out a shed and I think I remember them being fairly inexpensive


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I probably should have.

I get a 10% (mil) discount there which is always nice.

But I do know mine are pretty stout. You can't believe how much those plates and glue stiffens those things up.

I bet they are, pretty overbuilt with those webs... but nobody ever said "gee I wish I would have built this weaker" lol


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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 4
« Reply #584 on: July 07, 2017, 10:05:31 PM »
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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 4
« Reply #585 on: July 11, 2017, 05:13:06 PM »
Picked up a bunch of stuff to continue to improve my capability to sustain (Fix all the stuff I break routinely)

Got the hand saw, a couple magnetic strips from which to hang more tools, some big zip ties to set around the lower jaw of any idiot who starts talkin' liberal crazy! I might also use them as a quickie fix for something I am yet to break.

Always need an extra bag of dead chicken parts for the mutts, some cut off disks, a longer level so I can reduce my out of square construction down to around 90% of everything I attempt to build. Let me see, there is some other stuff there as well which I purchased just to add color to the shop!
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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 4
« Reply #586 on: July 11, 2017, 05:15:51 PM »
Have a NOCAREP

(Natural Origin Carnage Report)

Must have left in a hurry, because I didn't reel in the awning

and that cost me

Looks like it tried to go flying and lost a wing spar

Crashed and didn't burn, but will cause me to build a real steel roof over that thing now
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« Reply #587 on: July 11, 2017, 05:17:10 PM »
And the pond has another foot of H20 in it along with some new tadpoles
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« Reply #588 on: July 11, 2017, 05:18:26 PM »
All that dirt I piled up should have slid down the bank and be headed for Mississippi, but it seems to be staying put, just cracking and settling a bit
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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 4
« Reply #589 on: July 11, 2017, 05:19:18 PM »
Scout did a slow drive-by while I was checkin' out the frogs
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« Reply #590 on: July 11, 2017, 05:20:01 PM »
And this thing didn't leak!
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« Reply #591 on: July 11, 2017, 05:21:16 PM »
Coming up on bush hog season me thinks

But I kind of like the fields of wild flowers. Must be the repressed hippie in me coming out a bit!
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« Reply #592 on: July 11, 2017, 05:22:43 PM »
Oh and since we are talking about guns, Keith did my G-19 up for me (did I show this somewhere else already?)
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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 4
« Reply #593 on: July 11, 2017, 10:35:44 PM »
Nice gun graffiti!
Too bad about the awning. I bet you felt like Comey did with Lynch, when you rolled up on the scene....started feeling "queasy".
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« Reply #594 on: July 12, 2017, 01:08:05 AM »
Ditto on the awning. .. can it be fixed or is it a total loss? Place looks good!

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« Reply #595 on: July 12, 2017, 12:32:26 PM »
Ditto on the awning. .. can it be fixed or is it a total loss? Place looks good!
I have same one, I suspect the metal/aluminum bits could be replaced. The big tear, however, will not be so easy if possible to fix.
I just don't want to wind up missing a digit or limb.  I can sometimes get in a hurry to get results.
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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 4
« Reply #596 on: July 12, 2017, 12:39:19 PM »
I have same one, I suspect the metal/aluminum bits could be replaced. The big tear, however, will not be so easy if possible to fix.

Liberal application of 100 mph tape will ensure years of usage. While not aesthetically pleasing to gaze upon, HH6 might allow a continuance of service pending a complete overhaul, of course only after Chief pleads his case as to why he failed to secure loose equipment...
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« Reply #597 on: July 12, 2017, 12:52:05 PM »
Liberal application of 100 mph tape will ensure years of usage. While not aesthetically pleasing to gaze upon, HH6 might allow a continuance of service pending a complete overhaul, of course only after Chief pleads his case as to why he failed to secure loose equipment...

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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 4
« Reply #598 on: July 12, 2017, 01:37:03 PM »
Ditto on the awning. .. can it be fixed or is it a total loss? Place looks good!
I have same one, I suspect the metal/aluminum bits could be replaced. The big tear, however, will not be so easy if possible to fix.

Yup.....when I commented I was looking on my phone and didn't notice that it had torn away from the front part....I thought it was maybe just struts etc under.

Ditto the 100 mph tape. It'll make the place look more Kintuckyish too right?  :beercheers: :shocked:

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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 4
« Reply #599 on: July 12, 2017, 04:15:30 PM »
Nice gun graffiti!
Too bad about the awning. I bet you felt like Comey did with Lynch, when you rolled up on the scene....started feeling "queasy".
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