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TOOLS, CONSTRUCTION, ALTERNATIVE ENERGY => Shops Garages and Barns => Topic started by: stlaser on September 28, 2018, 08:21:14 PM

Title: New GLO Shop
Post by: stlaser on September 28, 2018, 08:21:14 PM
Ok, time to start a shop build thread. We are buying (under contract at moment) an L-shaped storage condo. It measures 1125 sq ft, has a service entry door and two overhead garage doors. One is 10 x 14 and the other is 12 x14. 16 foot ceilings, electric thermostat controlled heater & 125 amp panel. Should be able to start building a mezzanine in it next week. After some thinking it will be a wooden structure with solid second story floor. Here she is & I will get better pics of the rest of facility later. Facility is gated & has biometric entry, fully video secured & a club house for the old guys to BS & drink coffee. Members have restroom and shower facility on site. It has an HOA, is taxed as commercial (single downside imo) & most guys tack on a rider policy to home insurance to cover assets. Building insurance is covered via Hoa fees.

(http://i.imgur.com/lNfgy6Q.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/wVbWdmb.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/RMfZC1K.jpg)
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: Flyin6 on September 28, 2018, 08:24:04 PM
I'm diggin' this
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: dave945 on September 28, 2018, 09:53:45 PM
That should make a nice shop, it’s starting off clean, that’s a start.


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Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: stlaser on September 28, 2018, 10:23:40 PM
That should make a nice shop, it’s starting off clean, that’s a start.


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Yeah it’s clean now, he had several other units with the floors epoxied. It was a $5k option and well no sense paying $5k to have me end up ruining it.
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: KensAuto on September 29, 2018, 01:36:46 AM
2 questions... forgive my ignorance...so you would actually own it, so you could do whatever you want, within hoa guidelines?
..and, how close is the bathroom?(sounds important)


Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: stlaser on September 29, 2018, 07:53:07 AM
2 questions... forgive my ignorance...so you would actually own it, so you could do whatever you want, within how guidelines?
..and, how close is the bathroom?(sounds important)

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We own it, they have been increasing around 7% per year the last four years or so at least. I spoke with this guy for the last two years ( still have emails ). So basically we own it just like a condo house. I can do whatever inside the building, for the record no Mary Jane business allowed though.

Thee are 6 units or so between me and clubhouse ( facilities) so 400-500 foot maybe?
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: Bigdave_185 on September 29, 2018, 04:04:42 PM
Do you have basic drinking water at your location? Or is that club house also?

What other shops or storage units being used for near by?  Like minded folks as yourself?


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Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: stlaser on September 29, 2018, 04:21:01 PM
Do you have basic drinking water at your location? Or is that club house also?

What other shops or storage units being used for near by?  Like minded folks as yourself?


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Basic drinking water is in clubhouse. Along with kitchenette & lounge etc.

The locals, from the few I have met they are definitely like minded. A few small businesses work out of them. A few hot rod guys build toys there. One guy is a military vehicle guy and he has a full kitchen he wheels out at 4th of July and everyone has a get together. They cook hot dogs & burgers then watch fireworks over the dirt track that is directly south of this place. I heard there is a group of old guys who get together and eat breakfast at some hole in the wall cafe. For some this is a place to retreat to from HH6.....
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: stlaser on September 29, 2018, 04:25:33 PM
Worth noting there are around 5 of these types of places within 15 mins of our new house 1 is within a mile actually but I didn’t care for the guy running it. They did have restrooms in each unit though & were a bit higher per sq ft then what I’m paying. The place I’m at runs from $130 a sq & up depending on new or used units & size etc. My unit was used & is a second phase build newer ones have some slight differences. This was started in 08 and is on its fourth & last phase coming up.
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: Bigdave_185 on September 29, 2018, 05:20:45 PM
Worth noting there are around 5 of these types of places within 15 mins of our new house 1 is within a mile actually but I didn’t care for the guy running it. They did have restrooms in each unit though & were a bit higher per sq ft then what I’m paying. The place I’m at runs from $130 a sq & up depending on new or used units & size etc. My unit was used & is a second phase build newer ones have some slight differences. This was started in 08 and is on its fourth & last phase coming up.
So odly enough. I have had a long time thought of building a similar style place.  A getaway type place.  Two level MaNsion for those guys.   Lowest level garage shop open styling. I was thinking like a cross but with more sides.    Upper level sort of cigar shop style and bbq joint.  Open kitchen bar but no staff.  Provide your own service. 


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Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: stlaser on September 29, 2018, 10:36:52 PM
I calculated the material for the 16 foot X 14 foot mezzanine I will be building in a week or two. Will send short list out for quote Monday.

6pcs 4x6x16 foot Douglas fir posts will notch for laminated beams
17pcs 2 1/2 x 9 1/2 I Joists x 16 foot laid on 12 inch centers
2 pcs 10 or 12 inch laminated beam x 16 foot
9 pcs 23/32 nd 4 x 8 sheets plywood (flooring)
3 pcs 2 x 12 x 16 foot (stairs)
3 pcs 2 x 10 x 16 foot (treads)

Yes, little overkill but will not be going anywhere....
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: Bigdave_185 on September 29, 2018, 10:44:07 PM
Sounds about like the size loft I am doing, I had planned in tying off of two walls and two post oof the other side to the floor, metal posts to floor.  All other material is same.  Interested in your cost vs mine.  Do you by chance have wheelwright lumber in your area.  It may be just a local shop


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Title: New GLO Shop
Post by: TexasRedNeck on September 29, 2018, 11:06:12 PM
What’s with all the wood in a metal fabshop?  What happened to using steel?


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Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: stlaser on September 29, 2018, 11:12:46 PM
What’s with all the wood in a metal fan shop?  What happened to using steel?


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Time frame, I can have the loft built and in place by myself in 2 solid days. Steel, well that process is 4 x as long not including getting it powdered. In addition I think the wood structure will hold heat better in the winter (underneath it) as I plan to have my mill, lathes, drill press and saw under it and tarp the front so I don’t have to heat whole shop all the time. The second down side to this space is no gas line run into it. Had they done that I could run a a radiant tube heater very efficiently.

I did consider steel posts and two I beams then I joists. After considering it I really do not see any benefit.
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: stlaser on September 29, 2018, 11:14:10 PM
Sounds about like the size loft I am doing, I had planned in tying off of two walls and two post oof the other side to the floor, metal posts to floor.  All other material is same.  Interested in your cost vs mine.  Do you by chance have wheelwright lumber in your area.  It may be just a local shop


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We do not, I have no issue taking a picture of the quotes and texting it to you though.
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: Bigdave_185 on September 29, 2018, 11:53:15 PM
I haven’t ordered my material yet but I would be happy to get a starting quote to go off, momma isn’t gonna like the additional cost upfront but will like the storage area that is all hers when it’s done.  Mine is looking like 15x12


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Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: stlaser on September 30, 2018, 12:05:17 AM
I haven’t ordered my material yet but I would be happy to get a starting quote to go off, momma isn’t gonna like the additional cost upfront but will like the storage area that is all hers when it’s done.  Mine is looking like 15x12


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Copy, I’m gunna build it to be able to park an Abrahams tank on it....
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: TexasRedNeck on September 30, 2018, 09:15:26 AM
Shawn I’d advise to go with the 11-1/2 I joists. The 9-1/2s I used weren’t as solid as I’d liked over the same span even though I got the 230 series with wider thicker flanges. True mine are on 16 center but still flex without a ton of weight on them


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Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: stlaser on September 30, 2018, 09:26:37 AM
Charles how far did you span them?
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: TexasRedNeck on September 30, 2018, 09:52:57 AM
16 ft 16oc


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Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: stlaser on September 30, 2018, 10:19:39 AM
Copy, 11.5 s then

I’ll still hold the 12 inch centers and should be good
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: TexasRedNeck on September 30, 2018, 12:43:15 PM
Yeah that was one of my biggest disappointments. I used span tables and engineering notes and it was still too spongy


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Title: New GLO Shop
Post by: TexasRedNeck on September 30, 2018, 07:02:42 PM
Not bad mind you but just not rock solid.   Within L/360 but I wanted it stiffer


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Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: stlaser on September 30, 2018, 08:03:33 PM
I plan on having some weight up there, overkill isn’t a bad idea. I appreciate the feedback, Dave & Ken that doesn’t include you.....
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: KensAuto on September 30, 2018, 11:54:06 PM
Uh, ok.

..never built a loft anyway. But I will point out your screw-ups, even if there isn't any. :)
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: stlaser on October 01, 2018, 12:12:11 AM
Uh, ok.

..never built a loft anyway. But I will point out your screw-ups, even if there isn't any. :)

Didn’t realize you were watching this thread, if I had I would have made a reference to H.

You know something along the lines of Tex & I are designing this loft to be strong enough to even hold H. That way you could have something of reference you’re familiar with you know, so as to make sure this thread has a feeling of all inclusiveness for you.
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: stlaser on October 08, 2018, 04:10:04 PM
Acquired access to the new shop Friday. Wife moved a bunch of her house junk into it Sat. Nothing like moving stuff three times....

So at 11 am the local lumber yard dropped this off from a roll back bed truck.

(http://i.imgur.com/2uzHfix.jpg)

A little sorting and we had our components for the mezzanine. 

(http://i.imgur.com/jCkxf5w.jpg)

I had two hours, so I cut posts down to 8’ & started notching them to accept the engineered beam that will be cradled into the posts.

(http://i.imgur.com/rncVCz0.jpg)

I had two cut and had to head home to meet window cleaners...... :rolleyes:
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: stlaser on October 08, 2018, 06:16:37 PM
& the doper window crew never showed....

So I went back and finished notching these.

(http://i.imgur.com/Blqwqcf.jpg)
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: Bigdave_185 on October 08, 2018, 11:37:47 PM
Looks good.  Did some of that today. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181009/8bb2401427dd1718fa946a99d239de8b.jpg)
I walked some beams and cut some rough saw lumber 8x8 with our chainsaw.   Than put them under this beam I was standing on


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Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: stlaser on October 09, 2018, 07:33:36 PM
So yesterday was about three hours worth of work, maybe....

Today I was able to squeeze in around five hours. I started the day trimming the engineered beams to 16’ then braced them to a single post and stood them up.

(http://i.imgur.com/MNwoiC1.jpg)

Then stood another post up and bolted them together, square, brace and repeat other side of the bay.
(http://i.imgur.com/3LVUggj.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/LPrOsE1.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/OqQ9BDR.jpg)

Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: stlaser on October 09, 2018, 07:36:24 PM
From there it was trimming the i joists to width of bay which was 14’

(http://i.imgur.com/KQZcmdI.jpg)

And at days end today roughly eight hours into the build.

(http://i.imgur.com/K28nBkv.jpg)
Title: New GLO Shop
Post by: Bigdave_185 on October 09, 2018, 08:56:35 PM
You would benefit greatly from leaving enough room in the ends of the floor joists to put up what we call rim board.  1 1/2 wafer board that you toenail to the top plate ( your beam) and shoot into the top and bottom of your floor joists.  Keeps that floor from rocking and rolling.   
You could also substitute this with cutting blocks out of your scrap joist cut offs to go in between the joists on each end. 

What is the plan for anchoring to the concrete?


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Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: stlaser on October 09, 2018, 09:30:30 PM
Copy on stiffening it up, still have to square things up down below as well.

I haven’t officially closed on the property, think I’m doing that the 24th. I told owner I wouldn’t drill the floor until I owned it. But I’ll make angle iron floor mounts.
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: stlaser on October 09, 2018, 10:29:11 PM
I have two more posts to install as well (middle of each beam)
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: stlaser on October 10, 2018, 06:23:50 PM
Was able to squeeze in 4 hours roughly today. Started by installing those two middle posts and per the plan (which Dave beat me to the punch on as he described in his last post) went about bracing the i joists with drops from them. I was able to get about half on each side from drops. Then started sheeting the deck with liquid nail and screws. I’m using all timber locks or screws on this build.

(http://i.imgur.com/NlHSjRz.jpg)

Here is where I left it this afternoon.
(http://i.imgur.com/orPyBu0.jpg)
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: stlaser on October 10, 2018, 06:28:02 PM
In the morning I’m going to return a junk 2x12 they sent me as it’s split down the middle and won’t make for a very good stair stringer. Will pick up remaining cross bracing material and some 2x8 to frame in the upper portion of the stairs.
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: TexasRedNeck on October 11, 2018, 06:23:19 AM
Man I like that table saw stand. I need to look into that as I have the same saw


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Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: stlaser on October 11, 2018, 07:33:37 AM
Man I like that table saw stand. I need to look into that as I have the same saw


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That saw came together like that, maybe it’s just a leg kit & wheels? It folds up and rolls around on two wheels.
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: Flyin6 on October 11, 2018, 09:43:06 AM
Man I like that table saw stand. I need to look into that as I have the same saw


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That saw came together like that, maybe it’s just a leg kit & wheels? It folds up and rolls around on two wheels.
I have that on mine too
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: Nate on October 11, 2018, 09:49:19 AM
Here you go trn:

https://www.google.com/search?source=hp&ei=pFS_W7qaEoiSsAWexrWYBQ&ins=false&q=dewalt+table+saw+stand&oq=dewalt+table+saw&gs_l=mobile-gws-wiz-hp.1.1.0l5.1661.5188..6598...0.0..0.123.1507.13j3......0....1.......3..41j46j0i131j46i131.jwfZ5AJZ9QY
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: TexasRedNeck on October 11, 2018, 11:26:20 AM
Thanks Nate. Found it on Amazon Prime


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Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: stlaser on October 11, 2018, 06:45:40 PM
So I’m going over my 2 day estimate a little. Have roughly 20 hours in this project now and that includes swapping out a junk 2x12x16 they sent me and buying some 4x posts and more timber lock lags.

Today was time to square and stiffen up things a little. So I started by cutting 45 degree braces from the 4x4 posts.

(http://i.imgur.com/RDX7CTz.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/2vzUyZC.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/e3I7XwU.jpg)

And this is where I left off today, 3/4 of decking has been laid and I ran out of timber locks so I bought more on the way home. Finish attaching 4x braces tomorrow and frame the stairs.

(http://i.imgur.com/DId6dFl.jpg)
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: Flyin6 on October 11, 2018, 09:26:36 PM
Nice clean work there Shawn!
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: TexasRedNeck on October 12, 2018, 06:35:36 AM
If it’s still a little wobbly for your tastes, you might consider a full x brace from floor to top between each post using 2x4 or even 1/4 cable and turnbuckles

Of course the front you’d have to leave open with just the corner braces


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Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: stlaser on October 12, 2018, 08:17:09 AM
Front to back it’s already very solid & im missing a few braces yet. Side to side it sways a bit yet but I have 4 more braces to install & then the 4 posts and stairs. I am closing on the 24th so after that then I’ll bolt it down and think it will be good honestly. Some of the sway I’m getting is more of a wobble as until this is complete and weighted down it can slide on the Crete a bit. I can actually push it and move it by myself if I care to at the moment.
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: KensAuto on October 12, 2018, 10:42:36 AM
That last sentence sounds pretty useful, as in:
#1-changing light bulbs
#2- better built than those Walmart fold up shades (Will it fit in the Jeep?)
#3-add chain=mobile gantry
#4-add ramps and cut floor out=mobile lube "pit"
...and last
#5- mobile speach platform, for when Shawn runs for Gov'ner
;P

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Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: stlaser on October 12, 2018, 11:05:34 AM
That last sentence sounds pretty useful, as in:
#1-changing light bulbs
#2- better built than those Walmart fold up shades (Will it fit in the Jeep?)
#3-add chain=mobile gantry
#4-add ramps and cut floor out=mobile lube "pit"
...and last
#5- mobile speach platform, for when Shawn runs for Gov'ner
;P

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Dude, lay off the peyote. Because I know it ain’t the heat getting to you!
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: stlaser on October 12, 2018, 10:03:09 PM
Started this morning adding some more bracing. I had to leave for several hours mid day but was able to get a good chunk of stairs complete. The extra bracing really stiffened this structure up. I don’t think I’ll have any issues once I get this finished.

(http://i.imgur.com/gUwgldH.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/PhYctAo.jpg)
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: Flyin6 on October 13, 2018, 08:50:02 AM
I like it

Unlike many of my builds

It looks to be square!
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: JR on October 13, 2018, 04:54:42 PM
Yep, looking good but I agree with the bracing. Even a small cable "X" along the sides will do so much and you know you are going to load it up!

So when is the web site going to be up? Looking for a few things for the SAS as I finish the sub.
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: stlaser on October 13, 2018, 10:02:06 PM
Forget the X cable, my wife sent over more of her junk. That loft ain’t going anywhere unless it takes a direct hit by an F5 tornado (shop is in weld county Colorado so it could happen). Sorry forgot to snap a pic...

JR, honest answer on website is I’m not sure. Making progress but I’m the hold up and it’s down the list on priorities at the moment. If you need something specific PM or call, I’ll get you pics and pricing if I have something suitable. Best I can do at moment, my apologies.
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: stlaser on October 13, 2018, 10:08:58 PM
Moved more of the wife’s stuff to shop loft. Then moved stuff from last weekend in the shallow bay to the loft (nothing like moving stuff 3x!). Baylee helped, other two were MIA. Then ran to HD, shelving units arrived 10k, 2500 per shelf. Bought three at $200 each and free shipping. Wanted ones in NT but their shipping is obscene to Hippyland. Set first one up today as a 3 shelf unit, 4th shelf is going to be positioned as a work station between two racks. Each shelf unit comes with one solid shelf & 3 wire racks. Solid top is leaned up against wall to left or rack.

(http://i.imgur.com/jvKdn9X.jpg)
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: Flyin6 on October 13, 2018, 10:38:29 PM
Shawn,
If you want just use the Real Man website here to post your products. I don't care, and hey, let me ask the owner...OK, he said it's OK, so if you want to we could build you a section so that JR could find the parts he is looking for  :smiley:
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: KensAuto on October 13, 2018, 10:52:52 PM
Looks good.
Whats that yellow, "stick" thing leaning against the left wall in that 2nd to last pic?
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: JR on October 13, 2018, 11:28:11 PM
Looks good.
Whats that yellow, "stick" thing leaning against the left wall in that 2nd to last pic?

Level in a case?

Gears came today,still have setup grease so not very used.
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: stlaser on October 13, 2018, 11:36:37 PM
Don, appreciate the offer. Let’s talk down the road a bit.

Ken, JR is right it’s my good level in a plastic case.

JR, told ya they were setup but never ran. Fix that would ya?
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: JR on October 13, 2018, 11:40:18 PM
Oh yes,,,,,,,,
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: rpar86 on October 14, 2018, 04:07:22 PM
Costco usually has shelves like that, too, and they aren’t bright yellow... might save a few $ on the brand name, but judging from your previous pics you like those yellow tools ;)


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Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: stlaser on October 14, 2018, 04:13:07 PM
I had checked Costco & HD both, neither had shelves locally that were rated at 2500# per shelf. My steel parts weigh up quick.

I found these online and had HD ship them in for free from Cali. The gladiator units were also an option but the lead time was quite a bit longer and price wasn’t any better. The solid single shelf for me to use as a work bench between two units was another selling point.

I like dewalt though on tools as you mentioned. Worth noting other than these shelves and my cordless units both big saws were either bought used or clearance for new models. My cordless I received a large rebate to trade old units in.
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: rpar86 on October 14, 2018, 04:17:01 PM
Of course now I look and can’t find the shelves of which I speak in the Costco app...

I like my dewalt mitre and table saws, but I like my Makita drills.


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Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: TexasRedNeck on October 14, 2018, 04:19:32 PM
I got mine from Northern. On sale and with a coupon I paid $125 per.  Rated the same but no solid shelf.  Just the wire.  Of course right after I bought them they raised their normal price from 179 to 199


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Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: stlaser on October 14, 2018, 04:48:57 PM
Charles, NT has store locations in Texas. None in Colorado though & shipping truck freight on three of them was an additional $400.......
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: KensAuto on October 14, 2018, 06:33:44 PM
Funny, I asked about your level because I thought it was another DeWalt tool I needed to buy. ...kinda became obsessed.. should probably start a new tool thread to show off all of the yellow..
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: stlaser on October 14, 2018, 06:51:37 PM
Funny, I asked about your level because I thought it was another DeWalt tool I needed to buy. ...kinda became obsessed.. should probably start a new tool thread to show off all of the yellow..

Not sure, level I know isn’t dewalt but that case might be....

We stopped by local farm store today (Jax) after church for paint supplies and they have HUGE dewalt tool selection. I was definitely eyeballing a couple more. I am going to have two garages now so I have a valid need! :popcorn:
Title: New GLO Shop
Post by: Bigdave_185 on October 14, 2018, 09:41:22 PM
We use stabila levels. The extension level is our go to.
Stabila 35712 Extendable (7 to 12 foot) Plate to Plate Level https://www.amazon.com/dp/B001LRQUTG/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_Yc.WBb247YJPE

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Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: stlaser on October 14, 2018, 09:54:16 PM
Not I, heck I’m not competent enough to build something that would need that prescision. Thinking my level is an older 48” Johnson wood unit.
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: Bigdave_185 on October 14, 2018, 10:05:33 PM
You would be shocked at how often that level saves time.   Guys searching around for a 16 foot straight board to put a level on.  An just grab that and extend it to the top of the wall. 


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Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: KensAuto on October 15, 2018, 12:26:37 AM
I installed 3 doors Friday night with a 3 foot level, then I remembered loaning my brother a 6' and 7'.... they were in his garage a few steps away from where I was working. The next 5 doors went much quicker. Smh
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: Bigdave_185 on October 15, 2018, 07:57:28 AM



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Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: stlaser on October 15, 2018, 07:02:54 PM
Couple hours today on loft, got almost all of the floor laid and the posts at bottom of steps added. Need to pick up a chunk of engineered beam & some ijoists drops to finish framing around stairs completely.

(http://i.imgur.com/5nuDuCt.jpg)

Then I’m down to assembling on last rack but not sure where it will go.

(http://i.imgur.com/q0O7pFH.jpg)
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: cruizng on October 15, 2018, 11:02:59 PM
Coming together nicely.


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Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: Bigdave_185 on October 16, 2018, 07:42:18 AM
Maybe momma needs a rack on the top of the mez


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Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: stlaser on October 16, 2018, 08:52:16 AM
Dave, she already commandeered the whole mezzanine. Why would she need a rack? A rack indicates permanence & that ain’t a happening....
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: Flyin6 on October 16, 2018, 09:54:58 AM
Dave, she already commandeered the whole mezzanine. Why would she need a rack? A rack indicates permanence & that ain’t a happening....
Ha!
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: JR on October 16, 2018, 01:22:46 PM
Maybe momma needs a rack on the top of the mez


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So those containers are not GLO related?
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: stlaser on October 16, 2018, 01:54:32 PM
Maybe momma needs a rack on the top of the mez


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So those containers are not GLO related?

Nope, get this.....

I buy a shop for GLO, first thing that gets moved in? Womenz junk..... :rolleyes:
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: JR on October 16, 2018, 02:04:45 PM
Get her a locker,,,,,,,,,,,,
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: stlaser on October 16, 2018, 02:39:28 PM
Get her a locker,,,,,,,,,,,,

Building her a larger house with lots of storage....
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: Atkinsmatt on October 16, 2018, 02:43:11 PM
Good but seems like it is too late.  She already moved in.
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: stlaser on October 16, 2018, 04:35:45 PM
Good but seems like it is too late.  She already moved in.

It’s ok, I know the landlord....
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: Bigdave_185 on October 16, 2018, 10:36:21 PM
I think you are as hosed as I am, wife is trying to put her Christmas decorations in the crawl space in my garage.  I told her she would have to fund$ her own loft and I would build it.  Anything else inside that house was her choice and if she missed it it’s her loss.   I got laughed at. 


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Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: stlaser on October 16, 2018, 11:19:54 PM
Not one of my finest moments but I kicked my wife and her Dad both out of my first shop one night years ago.......

Moral of story I know how it goes and I’m fully prepared of said consequences! Now pass the bourbon!  :tongue:
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: Bigdave_185 on October 17, 2018, 01:19:00 AM
Bottle at my house is empty.   Need to get off work in time to make it to a store.   


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Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: JR on October 17, 2018, 03:13:48 AM
My wife puts things in the garage literally. Just throws it out there and put it away. Then they complain they can't get to thing when I throw it in the little garage.

I wish drinking did help, but it feels good.
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: Flyin6 on October 17, 2018, 12:29:53 PM
A thought although it is too late

You created steps with a comfortable rise, right?

Your wife is short, right?

Create the staircase with a 12" rise per step and:

1. She will avoid the mezzanine

2. You will get a good leg workout during a routine days messin' about in the G-Shop
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: stlaser on October 17, 2018, 12:53:13 PM
A thought although it is too late

You created steps with a comfortable rise, right?

Your wife is short, right?

Create the staircase with a 12" rise per step and:

1. She will avoid the mezzanine

2. You will get a good leg workout during a routine days messin' about in the G-Shop

Well, truth be told she hasn’t been there since I built the mezzanine!
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: Flyin6 on October 17, 2018, 12:57:59 PM
A thought although it is too late

You created steps with a comfortable rise, right?

Your wife is short, right?

Create the staircase with a 12" rise per step and:

1. She will avoid the mezzanine

2. You will get a good leg workout during a routine days messin' about in the G-Shop

Well, truth be told she hasn’t been there since I built the mezzanine!
Man cave...Man cave...Man cave
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: stlaser on October 17, 2018, 01:41:51 PM
I came home late one evening working on that mezzanine, she makes comment “I think you like the peace and quite there”

Truth be told yes some as it’s familiar, however there is only one of me & if I don’t do it no one else will.
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: stlaser on October 20, 2018, 06:31:28 PM
So first time in several days (wife’s surgery) was able to get to shop and spend a few hours finishing up the mezzanine. Forgot to snap a couple pics but it is complete. I left off the two 45 degree braces at the back posts. After I put the stairs in and finished floor it was pretty darn rigid. So I’m going to hold off. All in all I calculated pretty good, only thing I ended up extra was a 2x10 & almost 3 full sheets of 3/4 plywood. I’ll most likely use it to make shelves and maybe a workbench top if I need one. Going to move some furniture upstairs tomorrow and clean up my mess. Then start moving equipment. I close on the shop officially weds so then I need to start wiring stuff.
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: stlaser on October 28, 2018, 09:28:28 AM
I think JR asked if I had room for equipment in another thread.

I’ll leave this right here....

https://www.summitracing.com/parts/bpi-5175401 (https://www.summitracing.com/parts/bpi-5175401)

Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: Nate on October 28, 2018, 09:43:05 AM
why not something like this?

http://www.rotarylift.com/LIFTS/ARO14/
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: stlaser on October 28, 2018, 09:45:23 AM
I barely wash my car let alone wax it, what would you propose I do with that? I suppose when Ken visits we’d have a way to load H in his truck maybe?  :facepalm:


Suspension / drivetrain work is easier with a 2 post
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: stlaser on October 28, 2018, 09:52:09 AM
So I did speak with Ken when I was researching this for the record. Figured he knew something about them and he did. Wanted to be able to lift a crew cab 4x and he stated that he had no issue lifting them on his lift (fully loaded service trucks etc). So I stayed at 10k lift capacity (saved a little coin). Then looked at rotary, a German unit (can’t recall name) and BendPak. BendPak was one company that made full length uprights (not bolt together). In fact I ran across a piece of marketing material that compared BendPak side by side with Rotary. In the end the BendPak just seemed like a heavier built unit. In fact the shipping weight is several hundred pounds more in fact.
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: TexasRedNeck on October 28, 2018, 10:26:33 AM
Nice. I’m planning on one in the future so thanks for doing the research. 

Just make sure your slab is sufficient for that concentrated load.


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Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: KensAuto on October 28, 2018, 10:28:45 AM
Wait, I thought you asked me if 10k would lift fully loaded compact trucks, like S10s.

;)

Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: stlaser on October 28, 2018, 10:58:14 AM
Nice. I’m planning on one in the future so thanks for doing the research. 

Just make sure your slab is sufficient for that concentrated load.


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Charles, BP is imported (China steel) & tariffs are already taking affect. Keep an eye on it, I should have ordered a few weeks ago....

Shop is built for it, floor is 6” min
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: stlaser on October 28, 2018, 11:01:38 AM
Wait, I thought you asked me if 10k would lift fully loaded compact trucks, like S10s.

;)

Yes, and you had stated that was with H in the bed of said s10. I figured I was gtg then?!?  :tongue:
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: KensAuto on October 28, 2018, 11:33:04 AM
The lift companies recommend 4" of slab to be GTG. Not sure I agree, but that's what I was told.
I made my slab 16" across the middle just in case.
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: stlaser on October 28, 2018, 11:37:54 AM
Wow!

Ken, I used to pour concrete on State & Fed funded jobs. Sewer & water treatment plant construction mostly. The only time we ever poured that thick was on huge holding tanks. You could have just upped the bag mix and saved yourself some coin.  :wink:

However, I can understand with H around and trying to get her loaded why you might have concern....
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: Nate on October 28, 2018, 11:40:43 AM
the one I linked had the air lifts running down the center.

so I understand that a 2 post lift "CAN" lift up to 10k.  but for me, I just truly don't feel safe standing under something like my truck weighing 8500lbs while it is sitting on a teeter-totter.  I have personally witnessed several trucks falling off 2 post lifts, not only from human error but also the lack of safety engineering put into a 2 post lift design.

but on the flip side, if "1" person and "1" person only who knows how to put bigger vehicles on a 2 post lift is the only one doing it and doing it safely then there should be no Darwinism/blonde/fark me how did that happen/trips to the ER/etc moments.
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: stlaser on October 28, 2018, 12:09:16 PM
Nate, I was being a smart butt. I saw the air lifts, for me getting a freshly painted / assembled 1 ton axle up in there looks to be a chore. I can think of a few other jobs and too much junk in the way for my liking. Yours is probably a safer unit but as you stated it’s just me who has lifted, rigged and moved many items over the years much heavier than a 1 ton crew cab. Knock on wood the 2 post doesn’t scare me as I’ve used them before.
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: JR on October 28, 2018, 12:53:38 PM
That will be a nice addition for sure!

3 people within a few blocks of me have those. When the TH goes I am really thinking of one.
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: KensAuto on October 28, 2018, 01:33:12 PM
Wait, I think Nate just burned me pretty good.
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: Nate on October 28, 2018, 02:48:55 PM
Wait, I think Nate just burned me pretty good.

HAHAHAHA........are you guilty of the above statement in some way?

Honestly the comment was directed more at jacka$s rice burner operators that are not even smart enough to know where to place the lift arms as well as know how to lower it onto the stop locks....(so in case of a power outage/loss of ait, the lift dosent come smashing down.

Something like these.....lol

https://www.google.com/search?ei=RALWW83ZNoqEtQXb7Z-YDg&ins=false&q=vehicle+lift+fails&oq=vehicle+lift+fails&gs_l=mobile-gws-wiz-serp.3..0.35553.38232..39632...0.0..0.138.1110.9j3......0....1.........0i71j0i8i7i30j0i7i30j0i7i10i30j0i8i7i10i30.EuT_Vx4hMR8
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: KensAuto on October 28, 2018, 02:51:08 PM
Oh, hahaha.
.. well you did post that right after Shawn said he talked to me!
And, my buddy bought a new  $25k lift a few years ago, for exhaust work (besides oil changes, it's the only thing they're good for :) ) , on motorhomes. One safety lock failed, broke a cable and dumped it over on it's side, into another vehicle. Was a bad, expensive day.
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: JR on October 28, 2018, 03:02:01 PM
I watch fail videos all the time. Not just those but all kinds, great watching Darwin at work.

I see in some shops they use the drive on, then lift off that. Whats the use, you have to work around it all time, but you have a table!
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: stlaser on October 28, 2018, 03:51:44 PM
JR, if I had a shop large enough and more money than sense I would have a second like Nate posted
Title: New GLO Shop
Post by: wyorunner on October 28, 2018, 11:34:12 PM
Not that this matters at this point because you’ve already got it all figured, but, back in 2005 I helped a friend open his own shop after working for the man for 20 years. We installed two of the ramp style lifts in said shop, on TERRIBLE concrete that we ended up drilling completely through when putting the post lags in the ground, both lifts are still there with no issues. He is like you in that he works alone, even though he could use and permanent oil changer and tire mounter, while he does everything else.

Well in that department..... had a high school kid drive his dads truck off the front of the ramp into his toolbox once, but didn’t damage the lift, forced upgrade to
A larger box though.

Then on the 2post vs 4 post, I’m tall and lanky and getting into tights spots on the 4post lifts will make you angry, because the blasted thing is just enough in the way to stop you from getting the last bolt out.

EDIT:  Thanks Shawn for such a quality product!!!
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: stlaser on October 28, 2018, 11:59:15 PM
You received the parts? Great, glad we could help get you squared away.

Real world feedback is always appreciated too!
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: wyorunner on October 29, 2018, 12:38:03 AM
You received the parts? Great, glad we could help get you squared away.

Real world feedback is always appreciated too!

I did!!!! On thursday actually, but I just got back to the house to get them opened today. As far as truck parts go, theyre basically art work! Once I gather the rest of the parts, I'll revive my thread from the depths and post up the install. Sorry to clutter up your shop build, but wife and I wish you the best getting back into GLO.
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: stlaser on November 16, 2018, 10:26:34 AM
Ok, 2 post lift in my shop as of 6am this morning. I’m a little irritated at Summit Racing at the moment. With everything going on in past 2 weeks this being delivered turned into a huge monkey on my back. From the get go Summit knew I wanted this delivered to my shop not my billing address (which in this case was my house).

This BendPak lift shipped from manufacturer with no notice of when it was to be delivered (I blame summit for poor communication). Summit set it up per YRC to be delivered to my home. Of course it arrived when I was out of state dealing with mom’s and pops. Get back this week and spent several days talking to yrc freight (great to deal with btw), BendPak (also great to deal with so far) & summit racing (a** clowns). Long story short summit tried to charge me an extra $272.00 to deliver unit to my shop less than 5 miles from home and 4 miles closer to interstate. YRC freight laughed when I asked if that was an additional charge from them, it was not and they don’t operate that way.

I will not be dealing with summit going forward. Both BendPak and YRC were more than willing to help however they could. Summit, wanted to extort money from me after I spent several K with them.

So I got up at 4 today to beat traffic and traveled 45 mins to east side of Denver. Hauled this lift on my 8 foot 3500lb trailer all 13 foot of it. Used engine hoist to get it unhooked from 4Runner as trailer jack is inoperable with lift up against it.

(http://i.imgur.com/ugsTbWS.jpg)
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: Bigdave_185 on November 16, 2018, 11:23:48 AM
Praying that trailer doesn’t break


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Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: stlaser on November 16, 2018, 11:49:04 AM
Praying that trailer doesn’t break


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Well, I did ALOT of thinking about how to block this to haul it. For the record it hit 70 on that trailer.

The rear of the trailer was my biggest concern, I was actually more concerned with bending the back 2x3 tube cross member under the rear. So I ran a 4x4 across from side to side at the rear to help that 2x3 with some extra support. The front is fine with the tube side rail & a frame for the hitch (lots of support there). So by running that 4x4 across to the outside which is strengthened with the tube side rails (think box truss design) I spread the load. I figured worse case that back 2x3 cross member would bend and I’d have to cut it out and patch in new. 

I’ve had 3200 lb of steel on 2 wooden skids on that trailer with no issue btw.
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: JR on November 16, 2018, 12:34:14 PM
Nice lift, to bad summit screwed the pooch on a purchase.
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: Bigdave_185 on November 16, 2018, 12:41:54 PM
Trusty little trailer for sure than!!


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Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: stlaser on November 16, 2018, 02:06:45 PM
Nice lift, to bad summit screwed the pooch on a purchase.

It’s ok, I give free publicity & they sent me a email asking about my purchase. Once I have it up and it works properly I’ll be sure to let them know what I think...
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: stlaser on November 16, 2018, 02:36:06 PM
It gets better, summit just called to say they’d wave those fees

Thanks Summit Racing, appreciate it now that I spent hours of my life trying to work this out with you and already have it taken care of. The other part I didn’t mention was yrc was going to start charging me for it sitting on their dock. Normally freight companies limit you to 3 days. Yrc understood my situation and bent over backwards for me at 1.5 weeks holding it.
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: TexasRedNeck on November 16, 2018, 05:58:48 PM
Sorry Shawn. I’ve gotten to where I just request terminal pick up and have them fork in to the truck or trailer.


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Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: stlaser on November 16, 2018, 06:40:23 PM
Sorry Shawn. I’ve gotten to where I just request terminal pick up and have them fork in to the truck or trailer.


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I normally do too but the length concerned me (with my tiny equipment) and I have a neighbor with a forklift I can rent for a case of beer. So delivering it (free shipping btw was advertised) to my shop seemed too easy.
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: TexasRedNeck on November 16, 2018, 07:57:42 PM
Hee hee.  He said tiny equipment ....


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Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: Bob Smith on November 16, 2018, 08:17:02 PM
Get your mind out of the gutter, I am told that all of the time.
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: stlaser on November 16, 2018, 08:18:41 PM
Here I thought Ken would be the first to jump on that comment....
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: KensAuto on November 16, 2018, 08:47:49 PM
I'm not jumpin' on anything. 

but, I'll try really hard to not laugh when you try to set that behemoth up by yourself.  :)
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: stlaser on November 16, 2018, 08:54:35 PM
I'm not jumpin' on anything. 

but, I'll try really hard to not laugh when you try to set that behemoth up by yourself.  :)

Hmmm  :huh: do I hear a challenge?


I imagine H keeps you pretty well under her thumb!
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: KensAuto on November 17, 2018, 10:15:52 PM
You'd laugh at the way I put up the first one, before getting a forklift.  All I had was the little NH tractor...wait..I should say,  I was lucky to have a tractor.  I got the hoist up as high as it would go,  which was about a foot too short...so I did what any guy would do, drive the tractor up on railroad ties, with 4x4s stacked on top of them. Not too sketchy.  Lol
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: stlaser on November 17, 2018, 10:50:39 PM
 :likebutton:
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: Bigdave_185 on November 17, 2018, 11:12:25 PM
I'm not jumpin' on anything. 

but, I'll try really hard to not laugh when you try to set that behemoth up by yourself.  :)
That’s what she said lol


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Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: Flyin6 on November 18, 2018, 11:26:24 AM
You'd laugh at the way I put up the first one, before getting a forklift.  All I had was the little NH tractor...wait..I should say,  I was lucky to have a tractor.  I got the hoist up as high as it would go,  which was about a foot too short...so I did what any guy would do, drive the tractor up on railroad ties, with 4x4s stacked on top of them. Not too sketchy.  Lol
"Hey, boys, watch this!"
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: stlaser on November 18, 2018, 11:59:58 AM
You'd laugh at the way I put up the first one, before getting a forklift.  All I had was the little NH tractor...wait..I should say,  I was lucky to have a tractor.  I got the hoist up as high as it would go,  which was about a foot too short...so I did what any guy would do, drive the tractor up on railroad ties, with 4x4s stacked on top of them. Not too sketchy.  Lol
"Hey, boys, watch this!"

As we all know sometimes sketch can get the job done quickly....
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: JR on November 18, 2018, 03:01:01 PM
As long as you don't park in the water,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: stlaser on November 28, 2018, 08:54:28 PM
Ok, balmy 60 degrees today and was able to move forward on getting this lift off the trailer.

Started here, surprisingly everything is well packaged. 
(http://i.imgur.com/fvhdCy6.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/nGO6FMy.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/p54TET8.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/g9I3GWp.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/B7o2piD.jpg)

Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: stlaser on November 28, 2018, 09:00:25 PM
Then ended here after removing two 50 gallon drums worth of cardboard and packaging. Also texted Ken trying to get him to wager whether I can stand these two uprights vertical with nothing but my manly physique. I even offered him a video of me doing so from my best side and really surprising me he still declined. He did request if this goes sideways for video of said catastrophe... here I was hoping for a bottle of some Arizona made whiskey and no such luck.

(http://i.imgur.com/GR3Zazc.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/przIoAh.jpg)

And I found plenty of Don’s Christmas present as packaging which I boxed up figured he could use some dry wood more than I can....

(http://i.imgur.com/PHzEDkX.jpg)



Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: KensAuto on November 28, 2018, 09:11:27 PM
 :likebutton:
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: JR on November 28, 2018, 11:30:54 PM
Yes, there must be video!
Title: New GLO Shop
Post by: TexasRedNeck on November 29, 2018, 07:13:35 AM
If you stand up from the trailer with a fulcrum (blocks of wood) under its midpoint, that’s cheating. Like some dude rockin back and forth with too much weight on the curl bar at the gym...

Lay them flat on the concrete first and then let’s see that manhood.....

And you know I’m capable of shipping whiskey...



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Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: Flyin6 on November 29, 2018, 09:23:21 AM
That's some heavy duty boltage goin' on there!

Don't hurt yourself

Get Baylee in there to do the heavy liftin'
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: stlaser on November 29, 2018, 09:33:52 AM
If you stand up from the trailer with a fulcrum (blocks of wood) under its midpoint, that’s cheating. Like some dude rockin back and forth with too much weight on the curl bar at the gym...

Lay them flat on the concrete first and then let’s see that manhood.....

And you know I’m capable of shipping whiskey...



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Like Ken stated yesterday “I’m not that dumb!”

70% of the weight is in bottom 4 foot, blocks are 32 inches from ground.

Back in my 20’s I would load Dana 60’s & 70’s from flat off the ground into my F250 pretty often. However, I’m not 20 & these are quite a bit heavier than the 70’s....

& I know you ship whiskey!  :wink:
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: Flyin6 on November 29, 2018, 09:35:57 AM
If you stand up from the trailer with a fulcrum (blocks of wood) under its midpoint, that’s cheating. Like some dude rockin back and forth with too much weight on the curl bar at the gym...

Lay them flat on the concrete first and then let’s see that manhood.....

And you know I’m capable of shipping whiskey...



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Like Ken stated yesterday “I’m not that dumb!”
Ken wouldn't say that!
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: Flyin6 on November 29, 2018, 09:36:32 AM
;-)
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: Flyin6 on November 29, 2018, 09:36:54 AM
Bonehead!
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: JR on November 29, 2018, 10:13:23 AM
 :popcorn:
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: Flyin6 on November 29, 2018, 11:43:53 AM
:popcorn:
He's not listening

Got his feelings hurt over something

Was whinning on the threads last night about it

No one payed attention

So he's off sulking somewhere

Either that or the man is building building a business, buying a new house, dealing with daughters, helping his wife, running errands, helping his fellow man, looking after his mom, Christmas shopping, spending money, or researching Ken's activities.
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: stlaser on November 29, 2018, 12:02:03 PM
Actually, I’m working and contemplating it moving one of these posts to the floor is worth it to win a bottle of whiskey from Charles at the moment.....

Oh & boxing up your Christmas present.... :tongue:
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: TexasRedNeck on November 29, 2018, 03:19:04 PM
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Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: JR on November 29, 2018, 03:21:15 PM
Common Charles, you can better than Old Crow.
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: stlaser on November 29, 2018, 03:45:04 PM
Don’t worry, didn’t have time to screw with it. I just tossed em up off the trailer...

(http://i.imgur.com/6VUTxe2.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/vltMBKE.jpg)

Easy peasy, nothing to it.
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: JR on November 29, 2018, 03:54:59 PM
Sweet, maybe when I sell the TH. That would be a great spot.
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: stlaser on November 29, 2018, 04:28:45 PM
Find the safety books, 5 of them and they double shipped each one. Maybe they’re trying to tell me something? :huh:

Then, apparently I opened up the wrong side of the bolt box because the install instructions were buried at the bottom.  So a little studying tonight, I have a medium size corded hammer drill. Not sure if I have large enough bit and may just rent from hd & large drill instead. We’ll see, I then ran to HD and picked up 100 ft of 1 in EMT & 20 ft of 2 in. Will come out of main box with 2 in to a junction box then run 1 in 3 or 4 separate runs around shop.

(http://i.imgur.com/RCRyM0B.jpg)
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: JR on November 29, 2018, 04:37:28 PM
I bought a hammer drill from HF and have beat the crud out of it. It is the bauer SDS max 10.5 amp #63441. I have used it twice now for hours and it never let me down. The go for about $100 on sale, but no bits.
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: stlaser on November 29, 2018, 05:53:23 PM
I need a 3/4 in bit & found I have a brand new bit so gtg there.

Pulled panel cover off and started running 2 in but alas no large sheet metal screw to tie hangers to wall.....

& yes for the record working on electrical with an aluminum later is not osha approved. Also for the record my shop is too dangerous for osha so I do not allow them in my shop! :beercheers:

(http://i.imgur.com/leZp7Nk.jpg)
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: TexasRedNeck on November 29, 2018, 06:13:37 PM
Meh. Just turn the breaker off


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Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: stlaser on November 29, 2018, 06:36:59 PM
I might do that when I pull wire, we’ll see
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: KensAuto on November 29, 2018, 09:31:35 PM
You sure 2" is big enough? :rollseyes
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: stlaser on November 29, 2018, 09:41:29 PM
You sure 2" is big enough? :rollseyes

Well I was going to use 1.5 however HD was missing some parts in stock. 2 inch goes 20 ft to a large splitter box where it will go 3 directions for now in 1 in with the availability to add more 1 in routes if needed so 2 in really isn’t a big deal over 1.5

I also despise fighting to pull wire, we used to do the big cable with a forklift at my last place of employment....
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: stlaser on March 16, 2019, 02:17:19 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/H7LgvQm.jpg)

The pallet rack I picked up at a local auction, setup and a little more organized. Ran me $125 9’ tall 42” deep and 94” wide Has 4 shelves rated at 8k per shelf. The two shelves I have were on it and made from plywood with 2x4 supports. May pick up the regular wire shelves down the road from a rack resale place in Denver. Good enough for now with bulk storage.
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: stlaser on March 16, 2019, 03:14:42 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/zSqbjU3.jpg)
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: Nate on March 16, 2019, 03:30:49 PM
looks pretty good
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: JR on March 16, 2019, 05:47:04 PM
That is a nice rack. Even big enough for entire rear ends.

Awesome table

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Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: TexasRedNeck on March 16, 2019, 06:18:34 PM
Shawn you have a gantry crane or a forklift?


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Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: stlaser on March 16, 2019, 06:49:14 PM
Shawn you have a gantry crane or a forklift?


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Neither......

There are forklifts on site but honestly haven’t used them at all yet. Biggest hurdle was getting cross section on top of lift. I rigged a snatch block from ceiling and Baylee held the rope (keeping one end up) and I walked other end up a ladder to get it in place.
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: stlaser on March 18, 2019, 12:21:55 AM
Ordered two of these ceiling fans this evening, I’ll update once I get them mounted and wired.


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Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: Bigdave_185 on March 18, 2019, 01:02:05 AM
Please do. Cabinet shop is going to get hot


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Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: JR on March 18, 2019, 10:50:18 AM
Think you need bigger!
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: stlaser on March 18, 2019, 11:53:03 AM
Think you need bigger!

A little limited with loft and open garage doors. Part of the idea for having these is moving heat from ceiling electric heater down to the floor. I also have floor fans and may install a wall mounted one. We’ll see but it’s a start...
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: stlaser on June 30, 2020, 11:23:42 AM
So in addition to plumbing shop for additional air compressor and adding more light I wrote the check last night for this unit. Been turning away a lot of $500 jobs due to 2 post or the long bay it’s in being occupied. I called BendPak direct and they wanted to sell me a second lift so I pulled the trigger.

https://www.bendpak.com/car-lifts/four-post-lifts/hd-9xw/

Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: KensAuto on June 30, 2020, 11:56:01 AM
Hope you gave them the right adress....the Arizona one.
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: stlaser on June 30, 2020, 01:05:48 PM
Hope you gave them the right adress....the Arizona one.

I have a location in AZ? Cool, we’re going nationwide now!!  :tongue:
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: JR on June 30, 2020, 01:12:51 PM
That'l free some room up, nice.
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: Bob Smith on June 30, 2020, 02:15:50 PM
I figure the money I can save on garage size costs will more than pay for a lift like that. Double parking really helps, and being able to work on the underside of a rig not laying on the floor is a big plus.
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: JR on June 30, 2020, 02:39:38 PM
Soon as my building is cleared, it will get a 2 post. I will need axle and tire access more than parking.
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: TexasRedNeck on June 30, 2020, 03:08:55 PM
Shawn really want to here the report on the fans.  Looking at fans now for the outdoor kitchen.  Reviews are all over the place and no formal standards for air movement measurement.


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Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: JR on June 30, 2020, 03:34:04 PM
Yes, me too. Will be adding 3 big ones in the shop.
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: stlaser on June 30, 2020, 10:14:27 PM
Ordered two of these ceiling fans this evening, I’ll update once I get them mounted and wired.


https://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200436485_200436485?cm_mmc=Housefile-_-RECEIVED-_-707-_-CONF

So I have both mounted forcing air down in a 1200 sq ft shop (floor plan is shaped like a large L) with one 3/4 way back in deeper bay and then one up centered between front overhead doors about ten feet inside the shop. I keep a large floor fan under loft blowing towards doors. My shop stays a good 10 degrees cooler than shops without. They move a decent amount of air with my ceilings at 14.5’
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: stlaser on June 30, 2020, 10:16:24 PM
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Here is the second 14’ tall jib crane I’m building. Salvage oil field pipe which was $50 & is 14” od x 5/8” wall.


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Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: Bigdave_185 on June 30, 2020, 11:32:01 PM
I have two in my garage of the same model, put a remote control for high medium and low speed.  Keep my garage a good bit more even temp.   My stairs into the house were usually ten or 15 degrees hotter all winter long until I put fans up.

They have run at least on low every day for over a year. I like them


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Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: KensAuto on July 01, 2020, 06:35:30 PM
That's a serious piece of pipe!
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: stlaser on July 01, 2020, 08:26:18 PM
That's a serious piece of pipe!

Not the first time I’ve heard that Ken!  :evil:
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: Flyin6 on July 02, 2020, 10:58:52 AM
Hope you gave them the right adress....the Arizona one.
No, not AZ, the KY address. Save on shippin'
;-))
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: dave945 on July 02, 2020, 12:24:58 PM
Yep, I agree with Don. PM me if you need the address. Don keeps trying to use one that’s about twenty miles north.


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Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: TexasRedNeck on July 02, 2020, 04:36:46 PM
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Shawns newest offering


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Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: JR on July 02, 2020, 04:54:11 PM
 :likebutton:
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: stlaser on July 02, 2020, 07:06:47 PM
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Hinge is built for jib


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Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: stlaser on July 02, 2020, 07:08:02 PM
Hope you gave them the right adress....the Arizona one.
No, not AZ, the KY address. Save on shippin'
;-))

Sorry to disappoint they shipped this one out of Cali
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: stlaser on July 02, 2020, 07:08:42 PM
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Shawns newest offering


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Think it needs some spikes on the wheels
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: stlaser on July 05, 2020, 05:30:02 PM
Jib column is ready to erect, need to trim 4 corners of beam at hinge end and cap opposite end then it will be ready to hang in place. I triple passed the column side of the hinge mount as it had about half the welding surface area the beam side had. After triple pass I looked inside of pipe and could see two distinct rectangles where the 1” x 1” x 2” stand off stock for the two pieces of DOM tube were welded on so the 5/8” wall pipe has good penetration.
 
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Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: stlaser on July 06, 2020, 02:42:00 PM
Moved the column into position and stood it up. Borrowed a max sds drill from a buddy and had to track down a 3/4” bit for it. Not bad for doing it by myself. Bit of dirt and a Red Bull can inside that pipe.

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Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: JR on July 06, 2020, 04:08:27 PM
Looks good, amazing what 1 person can do if they must.
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: Flyin6 on July 06, 2020, 04:20:14 PM
That's pretty cool!

Tall enough for a hangin'?
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: stlaser on July 06, 2020, 05:53:55 PM
Definitely
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: Flyin6 on July 06, 2020, 06:40:01 PM
Definitely
Well if the pervert wins,

and starts erectin' statues to hippies

It may get some use!
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: stlaser on July 06, 2020, 08:47:10 PM
Looks good, amazing what 1 person can do if they must.

Take your time, extra precautions (rigging straps etc) and be aware of surroundings so you don’t get yourself in a bad spot.  :likebutton:
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: stlaser on July 07, 2020, 02:33:19 PM
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Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: JR on July 07, 2020, 03:09:08 PM
So just a couple braces to go, maybe some paint?
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: Bigdave_185 on July 07, 2020, 03:10:57 PM
How much structural strength do you think it would kill if you put a hinge mid length of your horizontal bar?  Bend around the corner?


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Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: rpar86 on July 07, 2020, 03:56:15 PM
Or rotate the post 90* so the hinge is closer to where he was standing to take the pic. Then it could kind of wrap around the corner.
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: stlaser on July 10, 2020, 06:27:56 PM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200710/d6370fa27f011782dccdaae6e5e0d0d3.jpg)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200710/2bcf7368eeca5d0742fa0d9e8f04441b.jpg)
Finished shop jib crane this morning and hung hoist then a few more lights. Now I’m waiting on my electrician to come in and properly wire all the new lights and ceiling fans. That hoist hung in my grand dads garage when I was growing up. I’ve had it in an action packer tote for at least twenty years toting it from one shop to the next and finally putting it to use.


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Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: KensAuto on July 11, 2020, 01:05:42 AM
That should work

Personal question....do you have 4 arms?
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: stlaser on July 11, 2020, 07:29:48 AM
That should work

Personal question....do you have 4 arms?

Never heard of 4 arms? Third leg maybe?  :tongue:
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: Bigdave_185 on July 11, 2020, 07:35:43 AM
Four arms ? Forearms ? For arms?


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Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: stlaser on July 11, 2020, 09:51:04 AM
Most people have two forearms, don’t believe that was what he was implying though.
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: KensAuto on July 11, 2020, 10:20:01 AM
Just trying to figure out why a one man shop would have 2 blast cabinets. That's all.
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: rpar86 on July 11, 2020, 01:19:17 PM
Just trying to figure out why a one man shop would have 2 blast cabinets. That's all.
Side by side for extra long parts?
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: stlaser on July 11, 2020, 03:25:19 PM
It’s one cabinet, door at each end. I bought it with intention of blasting housings once I get shop air finished and do some tlc to this cabinet. Has 4 guns inside two that hang vertically from top middle of each side. And then two guns one either side. I think for manufacturing purposes they just bolted the two cabinets together.
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: KensAuto on July 11, 2020, 06:13:35 PM
That's actually pretty impressive. Never seen that before.
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: stlaser on July 11, 2020, 06:35:37 PM
Here you go Ken, unit was over $5k new. However, you know the deal I’m frugal......

https://badboyblasters.com/
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: rpar86 on July 11, 2020, 07:19:06 PM
And here I thought they were HF units :)
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: KensAuto on July 11, 2020, 10:02:39 PM
And here I thought they were HF units :)
I thought something similar! Even then, I thought he was too tight to buy 2 of them!
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: stlaser on July 11, 2020, 10:55:25 PM
And here I thought they were HF units :)
I thought something similar! Even then, I thought he was too tight to buy 2 of them!

I would not have bought two of those, was planning on building one before this popped up.
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: stlaser on July 14, 2020, 06:54:24 PM
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Almost there, waiting on my electrician


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Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: Nate on July 14, 2020, 09:40:13 PM
I just want to tell you that i hate you and wished you lived closer so i could take advantage of your shop space for the cost of good bourbon
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: stlaser on July 14, 2020, 09:48:14 PM
I just want to tell you that i hate you and wished you lived closer so i could take advantage of your shop space for the cost of good bourbon

Thanks Nate, between your cooking and bourbon we would definitely be able to work a deal.  :beercheers:

Now just get the significant other to get a contract out here.....  :wink:
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: Nate on July 14, 2020, 09:50:45 PM
I think yours would have a better chance getting on with one of the hospitals here....lol
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: Bigdave_185 on July 14, 2020, 09:56:42 PM
I just want to tell you that i hate you and wished you lived closer so i could take advantage of your shop space for the cost of good bourbon

Thanks Nate, between your cooking and bourbon we would definitely be able to work a deal.  :beercheers:

Now just get the significant other to get a contract out here.....  :wink:
If imagine not a whole bunch to get finished if you two knuckleheads lived that close together


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Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: stlaser on July 14, 2020, 11:01:22 PM
Nah, but I would probably gain weight.....  :tongue:
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: JR on July 14, 2020, 11:26:30 PM
Heck, I put on weight looking at all the food here!
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: TexasRedNeck on July 15, 2020, 07:39:13 AM
Seems like you are always waiting on electricians.  Is that required by the facilities or do you need some edumacation on electrical stuff...


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Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: stlaser on July 15, 2020, 08:43:09 AM
Charles, up until a few months ago I have always completed it myself and with good success, never an issue. However, I have a good friend who is an electrician (neighbor) and neither of us like to charge the other. So we swap labor and I believe I’m owed quite a bit atm so trying to bring that surplus back a little more even.

On a side note he’s fun to harass especially when as last night he opens a box to find two blacks and a white in the box. I keep telling him electricity doesn’t care what color the wire is.....  :popcorn:

And I might add he is super particular about his work, so these little things drive him nuts.  :evil:
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: TexasRedNeck on July 15, 2020, 09:15:55 AM
Makes sense. Was that 3 phase in the box?


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Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: stlaser on July 15, 2020, 10:21:34 AM
240 single
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: rpar86 on July 15, 2020, 10:58:49 AM
Someone was too cheap or lazy to go buy a roll of red wire when they ran out. At least wrap some red tape around it!
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: stlaser on July 15, 2020, 11:36:53 AM
Someone was too cheap or lazy to go buy a roll of red wire when they ran out. At least wrap some red tape around it!

That was me and it was marked, otherwise I couldn’t have hooked it up in first place correctly. I'm not an electrician (those guys have meters for a reason) so having extra around isn’t a priority. Wasn’t going to buy a roll of red for that last short run.  :wink:
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: Bob Smith on July 15, 2020, 03:17:52 PM
I agree Shawn, but probably should have used some red tape on it any way. Well now I am not even sure about that,  two blacks and a white might of met code too
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: stlaser on July 15, 2020, 03:55:56 PM
I agree Shawn, but probably should have used some red tape on it any way. Well now I am not even sure about that,  two blacks and a white might of met code too

It’s ok, there are two runs in shop where colors aren’t exactly ideal and he’s found both. Like a darned blood hound. I get plenty of grief from him on using prebent 90 conduits, again not an electrician and only own one size conduit bender.
Title: New GLO Shop
Post by: TexasRedNeck on July 15, 2020, 11:57:53 PM
Single phase 240 two blacks is fine. It makes no difference. They’re the same voltage but just out of phase by 180 degrees. You can even run a black for neutral but you have to put a wrap of white electrical tape on it at the connection. 3 phase is a different story because you need The phases to  match up with the winding on the motor so it’s not working against it’self.


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Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: stlaser on July 16, 2020, 06:45:54 PM
See, I knew it was a ok......

Thanks Charles! Learn something new everyday  :likebutton:
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: stlaser on November 25, 2020, 03:44:42 PM
Waiting for raptor liner to show up (which did today btw for the fummins) I decided to clean up shop and organize a bit. Which included building some shelving and adding some paint in a few places to give the shop some color over these next few cold months.

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Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: JR on November 25, 2020, 04:17:29 PM
Kubota Orange?
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: stlaser on November 25, 2020, 04:18:42 PM
Kubota Orange?

Great Lake Off Road orange  :wink:
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: rpar86 on November 25, 2020, 04:30:54 PM
Stihl orange... hopefully being up on the walls means Don won’t run it over...
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: JR on November 25, 2020, 04:58:02 PM
Well, there is a 1500 mile buffer,,,,,,,,,,,
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: TexasRedNeck on November 25, 2020, 05:37:28 PM
I thought he was a Broncos fan....


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Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: stlaser on November 25, 2020, 05:49:07 PM
I thought he was a Broncos fan....


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Was, past tense...... screw all of them commies
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: Dustoff35 on November 25, 2020, 08:26:45 PM
Safety Orange!

Helicopter doors were painted that color at the Army Aviation Center, Fort Rucker, Alabama.  if you saw an Army aircraft with orange doors in AL, FL or GA, you knew students were flying it!
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: stlaser on November 25, 2020, 09:12:17 PM
Safety Orange!

Helicopter doors were painted that color at the Army Aviation Center, Fort Rucker, Alabama.  if you saw an Army aircraft with orange doors in AL, FL or GA, you knew students were flying it!


From the way everyone on here talks I considered being a pilot similiar to a DR. You know always practicing!  :wink:
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: Flyin6 on November 25, 2020, 09:51:35 PM
Stihl orange... hopefully being up on the walls means Don won’t run it over...
Not sure that would save it! ;-)
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: stlaser on July 16, 2022, 08:33:14 PM
As of yesterday I sold the old shop. I had the floor epoxied and in all after expenses made some money and sent it down the road. New owners are using it mostly for storage.
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: oklawall on July 16, 2022, 08:48:19 PM
As of yesterday I sold the old shop. I had the floor epoxied and in all after expenses made some money and sent it down the road. New owners are using it mostly for storage.
Any deal you make money on is a good deal

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Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: JR on July 16, 2022, 08:48:48 PM
Making a little is always good.
Title: Re: New GLO Shop
Post by: Flyin6 on July 17, 2022, 09:41:32 AM
Good for you, on to the next chapter!
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