REAL MAN TRUCKWORKS & SURVIVAL
WEAPONS => Firearms => Topic started by: Bigdave_185 on November 22, 2015, 11:42:55 AM
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First off all tips and advise is greatly appreciated. Today I am looking for parts to purchase, I have a neighbor/good friend who has built one or two and is going to help my with on line purchases today
I think I want list.
A longer barrel 18-20 inch long.
An adjustable stock.
Gas system.
Free flowing hand guard. With multiple attachment points.
Fold down out of the way peep sites.
A decent scope with good ol crosshairs
I will add to ^^^^^ as I see more things I like possibly add photos as I go
Things I think are Cool on the wish list.
Seen a drop down hidden bi pod from the fore grip that looked sweet,
A forward operated light with a on off switch by the pistol grip.
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Sweet!
Ok, here are my go to places for builder parts
www.aimsurplus.com
www.brownells.com
www.jsesurplus.com
Also and I know there are many opinions on here but I wouldn't build over an 18" also make sure it has M4 feed ramps
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start with something very simple!
start with a fixed iron front sight post and a collapasble rear, do the following
once you have it built and have run 3-4k worth of rounds thru it (read: PRACTICE! PRACTICE! PRACTICE!)
then go for add on's! (this is where you could go for some sort of optics, but not really recommended from me until this step?!)
(bipods are useless/added weight unless you are an accomplished long range marksman and plan to do nothing but sniper stuff ? just my opinion.)
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First off all tips and advise is greatly appreciated. Today I am looking for parts to purchase, I have a neighbor/good friend who has built one or two and is going to help my with on line purchases today
I think I want list.
A longer barrel 18-20 inch long.
An adjustable stock.
Gas system.
Free flowing hand guard. With multiple attachment points.
Fold down out of the way peep sites.
A decent scope with good ol crosshairs
Seen a drop down hidden bi pod from the fore grip that looked sweet,
A forward operated light with a on off switch by the pistol grip.
Why'd you land on a 18-20" barrel?
Stocks are stupid easy to find, the hard part will be finding on you like. If you have a Cabela's or Gander Mountain around you go check them out before you buy online. Since they are having their pre-Black Friday sales.
By gas system I assume you mean direct impingement? The gas tube is another part you can more than likely find at a local gun shop or one of the bigger sporting goods retailers that sell AR related stuff. Piston driven are heavier up front, and you can't swap parts between rifles and the piston parts aren't cheap and easy to find at most gun shops,at least that I've noticed.
Before you buy a quad rail, think about what you are actually wanting to hang on the front of it. Look at rails like :
https://www.midwestindustriesinc.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=category.display&category_ID=2469
Obviously you can find all kinds of different options, lengths, colors. But a rail similar to that will be lighter than a full quad rail, and you can place the rail sections where you need them, which will save weight. You probably won't even come close to using all the rail space on a full quad.
For flip sights, there are a lot of options out there. I happen to like the Troy flip up sight, sure they are a bit pricier than the MagPul ones, but I don't like plastic sights. I also like the tritium option they have on some of their flip ups. Although I recommend a fixed front sight for simplicity's sake, plus you can find the carrying handle for cheap on occasion as well.
For scopes, what kind of power levels you looking for? 1-4x, 1.5-6, 3-9x? Vortex and Nikon are nice options, though again there are a lot of different options.
Pistol grip bipod.... My opinion, if you want a pistol grip get a regular pistol grip, you want a bipod get a bipod. I've used those that you mentioned when I was in the Army, I hated it with the passion of a thousand suns.
For a light, the Inforce WMLx is a good buy at 154ish, might find it less in places.
https://www.midwestindustriesinc.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=category.display&category_ID=1308
If you don't need/want the 500 lumens:
https://www.midwestindustriesinc.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=category.display&category_ID=1165
Surefire is also a very good, if not the most recommended option, albeit they tend to get pricey, unless you don't mind snagging a used one. Higher Caliber can talk more about those as he has one or more and can give you a good review on it.
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start with something very simple!
start with a fixed iron front sight post and a collapasble rear, do the following
once you have it built and have run 3-4k worth of rounds thru it (read: PRACTICE! PRACTICE! PRACTICE!)
then go for add on's! (this is where you could go for some sort of optics, but not really recommended from me until this step?!)
I also agree with this.
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Those are long responses. I'll do my best to respond to all.
Length of rifle was to keep it balanced and was just a thought. I also think it would be interesting for me to see how accurate I can shoot with it long range ( I know this is not the weapon of choice for that but I find it appealing) I will amend my thoughts on length to 16 only per your far better experience.
The drop down bipod seemed handy for cleaning and setting the gun down as I do not have a vise or a gun stand to place it in (Yet).
I don't know if at yet I will be buying a surefire light do to budget.
I have thoughts of getting the rockriver lower but more choices to come this eve
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Links to rock river lower?
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A 16" barrel is a good starting point.
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https://www.impactguns.com/rock-river-arms-lower-receiver-stripped-ar0114rra.aspx
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https://www.impactguns.com/rock-river-arms-lower-receiver-stripped-ar0114rra.aspx
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$101.xx ... pass on that. You can find them cheaper.
Palmetto State Armory:
http://palmettostatearmory.com/ar-15-05/lowers.html
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A 16" barrel is a good starting point.
Has my vote, only 18" I ever built was for pig shooting. Normally try for 16" or 14.5 w/ extended flash hider pinned & welded
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Try this for a lower
http://www.aimsurplus.com/catalog.aspx?groupid=5379&name=Lower+Receivers
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A 16" barrel is a good starting point.
What are some of the things you have found you personally like or do to Iike about certain stocks. I do have a cabelas with in a hour drive but that time is still limited with the kids
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I run magpul for stocks normally, one of the girls wanted a really lightweight gun & I used a mft minimalist & it was surprisingly solid....
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What are some of the things you have found you personally like or do to Iike about certain stocks. I do have a cabelas with in a hour drive but that time is still limited with the kids
I personally like the stocks with minimal stuff on them. That's why I'd check around before you settle on one stock you like. See if your neighbor who's built a couple before will let you try his stocks out, or if he knows someone else who'd let you see one of theirs.
https://www.magpul.com/products/moe-carbine-stock-mil-spec
http://missionfirsttactical.com/Products/Rifle-Stocks/BATTLELINK-Utility-Stock_6
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one of the girls wanted a really lightweight gun & I used a mft minimalist & it was surprisingly solid....
I have never seen/used one. But heard good things about them.
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Dave I posted this awhile ago, check it out. You can "build" your own rifle and see if the final product is something you want. If not start all over.
http://www.ar15builder.com/
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Oh man I like this^^^^
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Oh man I like this^^^^
Best part... it's free.
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Links to rock river lower?
I'm building a Rock River lower based gun at this very moment!
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Academy is another place to check out som Magpul stocks. At least around me it is. They seem to be everywhere.
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I'll be the contrarian. 14.5 and 16 inch barrels are a compromise for maneuverability. Changing barrels or building another upper is not all that hard later if you change your mind. Ammo is advertised as fps, as in the NATO SS 109 specs are 3100 or 3120 IIRC but out of a 20 inch barrel. Each inch you cut it shorter means you lose velocity. About 50fps per inch. Add to that the fact that the basic AR round was designed to tumble or yaw after entering. That tumbling is what makes it lethal as it tumbles it breaks apart creating multiple wound channels. That only happens reliably over 2600 fps. So operators found that many times at longer distances ( like 300-400 meters) those rounds were just going right through hajis like an ice pick without inflicting the needed damage because the velocity was less than it would have been out of a 20 inch barrel. Thus the 62 and 69 grain rounds. However those are not as plentiful and cheap as the 55 gr.
So for an AR like my 10.5 inch, the bad guy needs to be within about 100 yards to reliably fragment.
For what you want, build a 20 inch upper. You can always build a 16 inch upper later to have the ability to swap uppers.
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^^^ All of that is a great argument for why I like an AK-47 inside 250 meters and a .308 for just about any range. One third of an inch is going to be destructive if it just drills a hole or blows up on impact!
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I believe you stated somewhere that you don't have any experience with a weapon such as this. For that reason I would not recommend building your first one. A lot of guys here could throw one together blindfolded with spare parts thrown in a box at the bottom of their safe. For folks like that not much thought has to go into it. It really is easy if you know where everything belongs and how it goes together. For someone like yourself, I would recommend purchasing a cheaper model to learn the weapon system and see what you like or dislike. It's common to over build or over accessorize these things. Simple and functional is better to learn with. I would recommend something like the M&P sport in the link below. I know several guys who own this gun who haven't had any issues with it. It gets criticized a little for not having the forward assist or dust cover. I believe in your's and most other's situations that is not an issue. It was removed to save cost and lower price for an entry level weapon. When you run a few thousand rounds through it you can sell it for $500 and finish building what you want with the parts you have been picking up along the way when you found a deal. I understand the gratification of knowing you built it plays into this also. I think most here are the same way. It will be real hard to build one for below the price of this though.
http://www.academy.com/shop/pdp/smith--wesson-model-mp15-sport8482%3B-556mm-nato-semiautomatic-rifle?repChildCatid=733516
I am not endorsing this store or saying this is the cheapest it can be purchased. It was just the easiest to find and link.
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What's the thoughts on stag arms. Looking at a 18 upper stainless
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Stag is quality, for the record I own several colts which if I had to do over with a knowledge base such as this at my disposal I would not own the colts. I do agree to build a basic $500 ar for your first one. It can be done as a couple guys who used to work for me did just that. They found deals & bought parts over several paychecks. They ended up with a relatively inexpensive high quality first build. The added benefit is that they can strip it down & fully understand how it functions from the get go. I would not buy the m&p for $400 imo.
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So looking at a few things at the moment. A rr 18stsinkess complete kit
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I started with a base model Rock River and have modded to liking from there. LPK is good, many people buy them for their stripped lowers.
Not a fan of those MFT stocks... Personal preference though.
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Any of the ARs will be fine for your first. You'd be hard pressed to find one that is NOT built to mil spec. Just remember to stake the gas key bolts and the buffer tube nut. Don't go overboard on accessories until you live with it for a while. And get a GO/NO GO gauge set to make sure the headspace is GTG if you build your own.
If you buy the tools to build your first you get to make it and learn from it all for the same price as buying one. I've seen your handiwork. You'll be fine building one, just read. watch YouTube and get the tools you need.
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This is the find guys. Let me know what you think. (http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/22/a6a4420b1944942f129efa75034a851d.jpg)(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/22/f7ab67f88be2aeb39880f5c28c18029d.jpg)(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/22/c03516476e2d7838940e8993b05749b4.jpg)(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/22/27f6b537654c29bf362940f0d5f04c7a.jpg)
Plus a lower parts trigger kit.
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Ok, since you are buying an upper and not assembling from scratch it will be MUCH easier. If you get a complete upper with bolt and carrier you can skip the GO/NO GO gauge (although they are good tools to have as the wrong headspace can make a gun into a grenade)
The one tool you will really want to have is set of roll pin punches. The little teet in the middle keeps the punch centered so you don't booger up the finish if the punch slips.
I small plastic faced mallet or brass mallet and a plastic punch block helps to.
Looks good, keep us posted.
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I've had issue with bcg's in past. Before I buy one now I always research quality, see what other people have to say etc.
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What is a bcg
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bolt carrier group. That's the carrier that moves back and forth and holds (or carries) the bolt. Buying them matched to the barrel extension already makes it an easier build
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The acronyms will catch up to me. One day
From what i read about it, it should match. I found this today at work if you all want to help me out with a go found me account http://www.primaryarms.com/rock-river-arms-a4-20-varmint-complete-upper-half/p/rraar0550/
I can't quite pull this with the wife
Except it is the .223 waylde which is lame from what I know. I want to be in the 5.56
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I've had my eye on their R3 comp upper for awhile...
https://www.rockriverarms.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=category.display&category_id=569&CFID=527482933&CFTOKEN=62792630
RRA makes good muzzle brakes too... I'm running a RRA barrell, upper, BCG, and and their RRA Tactical brake on my AR at the moment.
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For that money I'd built an upper with this
https://kriegerbarrels.com/products#ar15
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Then I would have to mess with putting together a gas chamber and making it not leak.
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Can some one explain what the wayled barrels are and what it means
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http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/index.php?utm_source=email&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=BGSBFCM111715
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Then I would have to mess with putting together a gas chamber and making it not leak.
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It's not hard & they all leak to some extent. It's kinda like directing water, it moves in the path of least resistance.
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Dang Tex for posting that link. I'm kind of partial to Colt :
http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/36_140/products_id/2678
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Can some one explain what the wayled barrels are and what it means
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I assume you mean wylde? From what I read it's a pia, stick to 5.56 then you can run .223 as well. I've been told you can run "most" 5.56 ammo thru the wylde chambers however it does not like tracers in that caliber or any polycoated ammo such as steel case wolf etc. if you were hand loading everything I guess it wouldn't matter as much. Myself I build rifles to run whatever I may come across in a bad event situation. I highly doubt you will ever come across hand load wylde cartridges in such an event.
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Dang, out of town for a Cabeleas sale and I miss this!! Reading through most of what other said here, here is my .02.
Buying a built upper is the way to go. Got my last upper from Ares Armour in 223 Wylde for $400, now $550 which is still a good deal. I have not shot the wylde chambered gun yet so can't say if finicky or not. I just got a 20 inch SS Barrel in 223 wylde for another build.
http://aresarmor.com/store/Item/match_complete_upper FF HG, M16 BCG and charging handle.
You can't go wrong with 556 and some testing shows the 16in barrel is just as accurate as a longer barrel.
Now from Midway, you can get a complete assm for around $500 and lowers are around for well under $50 again.
I like the magpul MOE grips as it will raise your finger to be in line with the trigger vs a stock grip. Have a couple of their front MOE hand guards (HG) too which has a nice feel, but no stock rails.
Another nice option is the AR platform will shoot a 7.62 also, with just a barrel change called the 300 blackout or 300AAC. ( I have a carbine and pistol in this) eve uses the same mags.
On Mags, I like magpul again having many 30's, a couple 40's and 10's for CA. For rest shooting you need the 20 round or less or the mag hangs to low.
This is one I built for a friend, 20 barrel, MOE Grip/Stock, quad HG
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http://www.midwayusa.com/product/221905/ar-stoner-ar-15-a3-upper-receiver-assembly-556x45mm-nato-16-barrel
Under $300 would be great just for a spare!
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Black Friday deals at Palmetto state.
http://palmettostatearmory.com/
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Well fellas. Due to some $ disagreements this thread may be getting put on hold.
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http://www.midwayusa.com/product/221905/ar-stoner-ar-15-a3-upper-receiver-assembly-556x45mm-nato-16-barrel
Under $300 would be great just for a spare!
Stoner is midways proprietary line, same as the bcg I had from them that was junk. It was out of tolerance & midway knew this but kept selling them anyhow to people like me. I'd stay away from them.
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Well fellas. Due to some $ disagreements this thread may be getting out on hold.
That happens. When you get the nod, we'll still be around.
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Just got this in for my AR build. Magpul MOE Rifle stock. Has the end cap, non adjustable can use their check pads and was only $60 after deals.
Guess I should build mine now,,,,,,,,,,,,
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Guess I should build mine now,,,,,,,,,,,,
Yes. Build thread..
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Guess I should build mine now,,,,,,,,,,,,
Yes. Build thread..
Thats the plan. Probably add a nice trigger too. All I need is the scope mount. That is up in the air for 1 or 2 piece and railed or not.
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By the way Ares has 30% off storewide right now.
"UPPER30" is the code.
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Build then ship to Utah. Yes sounds good to me Jr
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http://www.dsarms.com/p-15761-dsa-16-barreled-upper-receiver-assembly-quad-rail-handguard-low-profile-gas-block.aspx?utm_source=DS+Arms+List+-+Emails+Validaded&utm_campaign=f18723986a-Thanksgiving_Holiday_Specials_201511_24_2015&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_402777e7fe-f18723986a-263672661
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By the way Ares has 30% off storewide right now.
"UPPER30" is the code.
Ares? I can't find a store
http://aresarmor.com/ ?
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yes
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Thats the plan. Probably add a nice trigger too. All I need is the scope mount. That is up in the air for 1 or 2 piece and railed or not.
Depends, do you plan on taking the scope off? If yes, then get one with a QD set up. Most of them will hold their zero if replaced and tightened back down in the same place. If no, then just stick with some good rings, and continue on with the happiness.
Oh BTW Dave.
http://www.brownells.com/search/index.htm?avs/Special-Filters_1=Salezz1zzClearance/Rebate
Keep an eye on the clearance section of places like Brownells and MidwayUSA. You can get the stripped uppers and lowers from Aero for just over $100 (as opposed to $100.xx for just the upper like you posted), a LPK for $25 and the buttstock kit for $45. So like it was mentioned before, one piece at a time is a good way to go as well.
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http://youtu.be/rWHniL8MyMM
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I actually had planed on leaving scope mounted up, but a nice QD would be OK.
I have a custom registered lower for this also. No 10 rnd mag or BB required then.
I have a billet 80% lower too, so options abound.
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I actually had planed on leaving scope mounted up, but a nice QD would be OK.
I have my Nikon P-223 in the the LaRue SPR QD, and really like it. Has held zero when swapping in/out with my EoTech XPS2 fwiw
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I will throw in my real world experience with the Wylde chambering. The scary black rifle in the picture is an 18" barreled .223 Wylde. You can shoot 223 and 5.56 out of a Wylde barrel. The difference between the Wylde and other barrels is that the chamber in the Wylde barrel is slightly tighter than a 5.56 barrel, and the lands are closer to the chamber by 1/100 of an inch which allows the round to engage the rifling once the round is chambered instead of having to jump in other barrels when the round is fired. The standard m4 barrels are not chambered as tightly and have the lands as close in order to allow the rapid fire of a three shot burst or full auto. .223 Wylde is a fantastic chambering if you are looking for 200-300 yard gun. Much past that and you need a heavier larger caliber like .308.
The .223 Wylde gun is my mid range gun, while my Ruger GSR is my long range and my other 16" AR is my close quarters gun. And no the pink camp isn't my close range gun, that is my wife's newest gun. (http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/29/0d5af9a9da7d0438d854c8778e3e727b.jpg)
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Ok boys. Progress made in the direction I want. (http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/12/02/54ab39fcf90bcc6b2115d7467424f945.jpg)
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Nice lower,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
That is why I got a 20 inch 416 SS barrel in 223 wylde. To reach out just a little.
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Nice, I've built several spikes lowers. Fit was as good on those as any others I built.
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I want that twenty inch but not sure I will get there
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I want that twenty inch but not sure I will get there
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I found a couple at midway and brownells, but were pricy. Got mine for about 175.
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Post a pic Jr.
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Nice starting point.
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Ok list on http://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/barrel-parts/rifle-barrels/ar-15-m16-18-5-56-mini-sass-barrel-ss-1-2-28-sku231000327-54503-105494.aspx
http://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/receiver-parts/receivers/upper-receivers/ar-15-m16-assembled-upper-receiver-sku953000017-80474-167551.aspx
http://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/grip-parts/pistol-grips/universal-pistol-grip-tan-sku100004713-32495-56247.aspx
http://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/bolt-parts/bolt-catch-parts/bolt-catches/magpul-b-a-d-lever-sku100004755-29341-57852.aspx
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Ok list on http://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/barrel-parts/rifle-barrels/ar-15-m16-18-5-56-mini-sass-barrel-ss-1-2-28-sku231000327-54503-105494.aspx
http://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/receiver-parts/receivers/upper-receivers/ar-15-m16-assembled-upper-receiver-sku953000017-80474-167551.aspx
http://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/grip-parts/pistol-grips/universal-pistol-grip-tan-sku100004713-32495-56247.aspx
http://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/bolt-parts/bolt-catch-parts/bolt-catches/magpul-b-a-d-lever-sku100004755-29341-57852.aspx
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That SASS barrel isn't going to be light. So if you were planning on a lighter weight built, I'd look for a different barrel.
The upper is fine, but it's $75 by itself. If you check the clearance section you probably can find an upper and lower for a total of around $100ish.
If that's the grip you want, run with it.
My opinion, you don't need a B.A.D. lever. Just once more thing that'll catch on something, usually when you don't want it to.
Those are my opinions.
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I'll be the contrarian. I love my BAD levers but you have to train with them to get the most out of them. Unless you are training hard to defend and use the weapon system to its maximum effectiveness it's probably a waste. It saves about 1-2 seconds max when you are clearing malfunctions or during bolt locked mag changes.
And unless you are training with a team, you would usually transition to a secondary weapon in a firefight when a malfunction occurs.
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I'll be the contrarian. I love my BAD levers but you have to train with them to get the most out of them. Unless you are training hard to defend and use the weapon system to its maximum effectiveness it's probably a waste. It saves about 1-2 seconds max when you are clearing malfunctions or during bolt locked mag changes.
And unless you are training with a team, you would usually transition to a secondary weapon in a firefight when a malfunction occurs.
True, but it's also not difficult to hit the bolt release with the heel of your hand after inserting a magazine when your hand is enroute back to the firing position on the hand guard. But either way you go as long as you train on it, and it works for you then more power to ya.
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The barrel didn't seem to much heavier in weight when I held it in my hand and if you look at similar barrels it only a fraction more. The bad lever seemed handy on the three ARs I played with today's date it's kinda fancy pants part for cheap.
And if all else I can remove it if I don't like it.
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The barrel didn't seem to much heavier in weight when I held it in my hand
Remember you're also planning on adding hand guards (though they are generally light) and didn't you mention a light and a gas block and front sight. It's all going to change the balance and weight. But again that's the beauty of the AR platforms. Change them up and make them yours.
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Also bought http://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/triggers-parts/hammer-parts/hammer-pins/154-gen-2-mod-2-non-rotating-pin-set-sku923000046-26944-52497.aspx
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Also bought http://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/triggers-parts/hammer-parts/hammer-pins/154-gen-2-mod-2-non-rotating-pin-set-sku923000046-26944-52497.aspx
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I have several of the bags, they're nice one you discard the back pack straps.......
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Also bought http://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/triggers-parts/hammer-parts/hammer-pins/154-gen-2-mod-2-non-rotating-pin-set-sku923000046-26944-52497.aspx
You going to be putting this all together yourself?
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I have a budy who has built and sold a few. ( I called him when the wife gave me the go ahead ) we sat down tonight and ordered parts and played with his three, has a 308 platform, a super light 223 with all the really light parts. It was nice but the price tag wasn't my size he has a SBR with a few uppers built to interchange a few things. It seven inches plus a eight inch suppressor too
I do need to find a muzzle brake for that barrel. Everything is smaller diameter and I think would look funny. I do have a in with sincerco but he says the employe store is empty due to holiday season
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I have a budy who has built and sold a few. ( I called him when the wife gave me the go ahead ) we sat down tonight and ordered parts and played with his three, has a 308 platform, a super light 223 with all the really light parts. It was nice but the price tag wasn't my size he has a SBR with a few uppers built to interchange a few things. It seven inches plus a eight inch suppressor too
I do need to find a muzzle brake for that barrel. Everything is smaller diameter and I think would look funny. I do have a in with sincerco but he says the employe store is empty due to holiday season
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Well good luck on the build. Soon you'll have to build the wife one.
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FYI, you can build a firearm from an 80% frame, but it can never be sold or transferred legally. (federal)
Anything built with legally purchased "frame" (serialized part) can be transferred per state laws.
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The 80% lowers are kind of a fun idea. But I had a better idea. Have grandma go to the gun store and buy a lower or two and when she leaves this great world we can say we don't know what she did with them. :)
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Or just make some face to face purchases from individuals.....or so I've heard
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A lot of states face to face transfers are legal with an in state ID
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Utah is open sales. To cover your butt being a seller you get a bill of sale. Who sells guns? Why would ya do that lol
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FYI, you can build a firearm from an 80% frame, but it can never be sold or transferred legally.
There is a lot of argument over that. I ain't here to do that with you so please don't think that. The confusion comes from the wording in the ATF paperwork on these guns. You can't build one with the intention of selling it. That's certain. It states that if it is sold it "should" be serial numbered documented as a firearm. Should ain't a certain word. Ever guideline that is an a solute uses "must". I would never sell one I completed so I never dug further into it. I don't think it's forbidden though if you go by the wording. If I can find it I will post a link.
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Used to be in WA too, not anymore. There was a flurry of activity in WA right before our mandatory backgrounds went into effect on all private transfers (I-594). I sold my 1911, matching P238, and a savage 308 to guys who were willing to pay to not have them on the books. I still demanded to see ID and CPL for my CYA before I'd sell.
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I don't plan on selling mine so it's not an issue for me.
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I am getting pretty excited, parts should start rolling up on my porch tomorrow
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Playing with all those parts is fun. Just like good engine work it gets addicting.
Got my trigger. When I figure out the front grip I will start my own thread.
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Part number one, charging hammer release (http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/12/07/1eca26cab002df25d9fb44dddb3b5173.jpg)
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No turning back now!
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I have been toying with sending out some parts for gloss black paint/powder coat. Can you powder coat these parts?
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I don't have any experience with it. I'm a fan of anodizing and then a rattle can camo job.
But since its your first you might want to make it purdy. I remember my first one....then taking a carbine class and getting a scratch on it....by the second class I was thowing it in the mud and rolling around in the gravel with it....
Gave it character.
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I have been in love with hand engraved rifles for years read about it and so on. Toying with a little tooling on the lower to add my touch
Did that video make sense from the other page?
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I have been toying with sending out some parts for gloss black paint/powder coat. Can you powder coat these parts?
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You can send send parts off to get coated, but it's going to add to the overall price.
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DIY anodizing
I have not tried this but sounds possible for small parts.
http://www.observationsblog.com/sciencetechnologyexperiments/anodizing-and-dying-aluminum-without-battery-acid
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Yes, but some parts are high tolerance & you'll make assembly for yourself a bear.... (Powder coating).
Anodizing I don't think adds to thickness it is a chemical reaction with the aluminum. It is also very inexpensive.
I have been toying with sending out some parts for gloss black paint/powder coat. Can you powder coat these parts?
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Ok need help the floating hand guard I ordered is the wrong color. Looking for options locations stores and what not. One two three go.. Pretty please
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Send it back & get correct color?
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Correct color is out of stock. I am open to black or the flat tan but spending over $150 is making want to cringe
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Dumb question what is your time line and getting correct one back in stock. Also non of the places we listed already has any in price range I take it? And it is Christmas time, I went to Sears today to find a 3/4 deep well socket and it was out of stock too.....
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Whats wrong with the color ?? If you can't return they are a part that needs a tight tolerance. Just rattle can it.
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I don't have a time line I have a excited like a kid on Christmas morning. But most things I have found are out of stock. As for budget I spent $30 or so on that one and I am open to more. In the 15 inch range black or tan works
I did look at the sites and I am not sure I found all of the hidden locations for the ff hand guards but I have due diligence
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Ups man is busy today
I wanted to run them all desert tan. Or flat tan
This is the earth something or another
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http://www.joeboboutfitters.com/Handguards_s/130.htm
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For what it's worth I've built them in multiple colors to create a camouflage of sorts. I also have used high temp bbq grill spray on a lot of barrels normally after I pin & weld flash hiders on 14.5" units to make them legal..... Other idea is keep it & paint gun once it's assembled all one color or with a camouflage kit.
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I like the color- go two tone! Grip, PMag, stock and forearm that color and the rest black!
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I already have order the lighter tan grip and stock. That color is a bunch darker. (http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/12/08/39e8c1a90270752405ffd42e4db4daa8.jpg)
The magpul stuff is more of the desert tan. Vs what the earlier photo is
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Just for the record ordering the wrong parts for a gun build happens, more often than I would like to admit. It's why I have a box of parts...... & if you think building an ar15 is tuff w/o ordering wrong parts try an ar10 it really brings the suck........
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I have diff calibers for diff colors, helps with mags.
22lr is OD
556 is Black
300aac is Tan
I do like that rail, how long is it? I like the keyhole setup (quads are bulky) but think I need a 12in for my 20 in barrel.
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Which rail JR? The link or the one I purchased and sent back
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I followed your link, thanks.
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I followed your link, thanks.
What one were you looking at Jr ?
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Don't sweat the slight color difference. Just use what you got, if it really bothers you, when stock comes back up you can always swap it out. Rattle can paint jobs make everything the same color(s).
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I shipped it back Bobby. I'll see what else I can find
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I haven't started my build yet but we went shooting today. (http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/12/12/7772e2fe025461f0909644d957afbb36.jpg)https://vimeo.com/148739604 (https://vimeo.com/148739604)
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I have been watching assembly videos and from what I have seen. The pivot pin is the hard part. Do you al have ideas or suggestions or should I buy the tool for it on ye ol Amazon
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I have been watching assembly videos and from what I have seen. The pivot pin is the hard part. Do you al have ideas or suggestions or should I buy the tool for it on ye ol Amazon
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The tool will help, however there are how-to's that show how to do it with a punch, needle nose pliers and an allen wrench.
Here's a the step by step I was talking about.
http://www.itstactical.com/warcom/firearms/diy-ar-15-build-pivot-pin-installation/
Hopefully that helped/helps you out.
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Hotdamn that will do the trick!!!
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I always just used a utility knife. The blade slides in behind and holds the retention spring / pin then start the front pin. Not really that complicated.......
Then again no safety Nazi's in my shop to worry about when I slip and cut myself either. ::)
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Who is up for a phone call???
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what part ya working on?
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I sent you a PM.
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I think I worked through the issue. Thanks
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GTG. No problem.
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Well I assume I have it assembled correctly. (http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/12/14/bccd8fcba331f71dd4901f9d6d88fefe.jpg)
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I can't identify this part it came with my buffer tube set (http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/12/14/084a9f94c2a6e86ddc3b32a24e51af86.jpg)
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Looks like a sling attachment to a picatinny rail. I like using a ring under the buffer tube. Single point. Sometimes companies throw parts in.
Looking good!!!
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Looks good Dave.
Single points are nice but the weapon flops around when you transition to a sidearm or have to do something else with your hands like climb, rappel, etc.
I prefer 2 point so you can sling it up over your back if you have to run, climb, transition, etc. That hole in your stock acccepts QD sling attachment. Hopefully you have one on the rail you plan to use as well.
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TRN, I think that unknown item he posted may be a qd attachment point for his rail....
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I think it is as well. Looking good Dave. TRN is right. Single point slings have their uses but watch the jewels.
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TRN, I think that unknown item he posted may be a qd attachment point for his rail....
Could be, but the lack of clearance around the hole makes me think it is for a clip like this
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Matt, don't ask me how I know about single points and the "jewels" ROFL
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Matt, don't ask me how I know about single points and the "jewels" ROFL
Did a combo platter of gravity, momentum, Murphy and a miniscule amount of complacency give you an hard learned and oft remembered lesson in single points?
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They pushed single points for us all the time. I personally have always used a regular sling or a scabard when I packed with the 30-30. Or carried my M1 on the handle bars.
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Matt, don't ask me how I know about single points and the "jewels" ROFL
Did a combo platter of gravity, momentum, Murphy and a miniscule amount of complacency give you an hard learned and oft remembered lesson in single points?
"yes" he said in a high pitched voice
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"yes" he said in a high pitched voice
Don't worry. I was partaking in some night time MOUT training when I was in. 1 guy did the same, plus side no one saw him do it, negative side, everyone heard the muffled thump and the squeaky voice afterwards, I was able to hold in the laughter..barely.
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Ok fellas. Looking for a BCG. Apparently I forgot to order one.
Can some one show me a reason to buy the nickel boron vs none? I can't find reasons other then the cleaning reason?
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I got nothing for you on that one. I thought I read that one required less lube, but eh
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Ok fellas. Looking for a BCG. Apparently I forgot to order one.
Can some one show me a reason to buy the nickel boron vs none? I can't find reasons other then the cleaning reason?
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The coated ones are said to need less cleaning, as the carbon and etc will wipe right off. However, they can be a little more expensive than a standard BCG. It isn't hard to clean the BCGs to begin with, so it's really up to your personal preference and what your wallet says you can snag. That's my opinion.
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Mines Nic-bor and I can assure you that the carbon doesn't just wipe off! The only thing I would guess is the lower need for lube and the look.......plus ability to see build up of carbon more easily.
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I have a chromed BCG... very easy to clean. About $40 more than the standard, at RRA anyway.
https://www.rockriverarms.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=category.display&category_id=377
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All I can say is stay away from stoner bcg's. I have nickel boron & also chromed bcg's as well as standard whatever finish those are. I really can't say the nickel boron is worth the extra money. As stated before the chrome ones seem to clean up pretty easy though.
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I like the idea of less work to clean and less oil. I have read other mixed reviews. However the cost difference seems to be minimal. $98 for standard and roughly $130+ for a nickel boron
Right thinking?
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I like the idea of less work to clean and less oil. I have read other mixed reviews. However the cost difference seems to be minimal. $98 for standard and roughly $130+ for a nickel boron
Right thinking?
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The link i sent was $130 for chromed, not NiB
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I wasn't referring to just your post and the cost of the RR link you posted. General statement
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http://apocarmory.com/collections/upper-parts/products/premium-nickel-boron-bcg
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What's the status on this build?
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Well. I am waiting for my bcg to be delivered for me to assemble the rest
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Did you score a complete upper or are you assembling that as well?
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I assembled that also.
I have it all but finished men.
I need to:
Receive and instal my bolt group ( chose a nickel boron for a good price)
Need to finish my charge handle ( I dropped the small pin for the release its MIA)
Finish my mid length gas system as I am waiting on shipping again.
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Merry Christmas to you!
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Very nice indeed, and your first build!
I just got that front grip for my KSG and my Vortex mount came in too.
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I assembled that also.
I have it all but finished men.
I need to:
Receive and instal my bolt group ( chose a nickel boron for a good price)
Need to finish my charge handle ( I dropped the small pin for the release its MIA)
Finish my mid length gas system as I am waiting on shipping again.
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You attached the rail without putting the gas tube on underneath? Or am I just tired to the point I'm glossing over something glaringly obvious to everyone else but me?
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Bobby, my guess was he just slipped rail on to mount to "showcase" the completed look.
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Rightomundo I won't get my gas tube till later next week. The barrel isn't torqued and I just wanted to see it all done up. The float is one set screw and a bunch of turns.
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You can torque the barrel and mount up the rail mount fine. Won't have a thing to do with the gas tube as long as the rail mount allows the gas tube to slide in.
So looks like your gas block sits under the rail same as my build.
Any back up sites in mind? I like the idea of the little red dot offset.
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I have really no need at the moment for backup sites. I guess if I had to call it out I should have built a long rifle. In the video I posted previous to single shots I unloaded a whole mag on a target and it didn't really turn me on so to speak. I think long shots might be more of a pleasure to me.
Why do you want back up sites jr?
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I would like to do some more learning about how I can limit the climb of my weapon. The friends I was shooting seemed to climb a large bit in a 3-4 shot burst.
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Just a good comp that channels the blast up will help with climb. There is really little though with the AR.
As for sites, what if you have a close in shot? I simple cheap red reflex would work great.
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Nicely done Big Dave!
Shouldn't be much climb on a semi. On full,aim a little low and to the left and let it walk up and over for a 3-4 round burst, crossing the torso and "stitching it up"
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Can civilians buy tracer rounds?
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Yep, but I don't see a practical civilian use for it.
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/953715836/federal-american-eagle-tactical-tracer-ammunition-556x45mm-nato-64-grain-xm856-full-metal-jacket
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Yep, but I don't see a practical civilian use for it.
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/953715836/federal-american-eagle-tactical-tracer-ammunition-556x45mm-nato-64-grain-xm856-full-metal-jacket
other than lighting fields on fire. ;D
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Can civilians buy tracer rounds?
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Yes!
But, they will start fires!
So be careful!
(Don't ask me how I know!)
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Yep, but I don't see a practical civilian use for it.
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/953715836/federal-american-eagle-tactical-tracer-ammunition-556x45mm-nato-64-grain-xm856-full-metal-jacket
other than lighting fields on fire. ;D
Wrong!!!
How could you celebrate the ringing in of the new year without them?
Duh!
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New Years partay & Big D's house!!!! :o
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Sounds like a plan we can party on the new deck and shoot fish in the pond behind the house. I'll turn the grill on at eight. Bring your own beef
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You can find lots of muzzle brakes that direct the gas out and up to counter muzzle climb, versus just a flash hider.
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Ok fellas. I have a issue with my barrel nut. It's not lining up with in torque specs. I have ran the nut tight a few times and am still not able to line up the gas tube. How do you all feel about some fine sandpaper and removing some thickness of my barrel nut?
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What torque specs are you using?
Are you using grease on the threads? You should be breaking the threads in to 30' #'s (tighten & loosen nut a few times) Then you can tighten the nut all the way up to 80' #'s so if you do this then there should be no issue lining up the gas tube. Note max is 80' #'s not a must have spec.
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Oh & when you're breaking in those threads don't forget to scratch your balls & pay homage to Stoner...... ::)
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Well I was having some technical difficulties. Between me being a cheap ass and not purchasing the upper vise block. I was improvising with some 1x1 I wasn't able to put a lot of torque on the setup alone. I called a neighbor to come lend a 6 foot 9inch tall help. We ran the nut on maybe six or seven times and the wrench was slipping on the nut so I measured my thread movement with some feeler gauges and decided I only needed to remove at the most 0.0010 of material and it should allow me to meet my gas tube. Sandpaper from 220-800-2000 and I made it work. Chinese machine tolerances I am sure are far less accurate then what was needed. I have a installed gas tube.
Just waiting for a bcg
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Ar wrench & upper vice blocks are bare min tools when building an upper unfortunately.
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Next issue
https://vimeo.com/149605285 (https://vimeo.com/149605285)
The bolt isn't catching
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Could be one (or more) of the following:
Your BAD lever
Faulty magazine
Out of spec buffer tube
Make sure when you pull the charging handle the bolt to the rear the bolt face should be behind the bolt catch
Bolt catch tang might not be long enough
Lower might be out of spec
Do you have the a RIFLE buffer in the CARBINE buffer tube
I was bored this morning so I browsed the interwebz getting more answers for you. One of those should help.
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How would or should I verify my buffer tube ?
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It's a spikes lower I doubt it is out of spec. Built plenty & never any issues I'm guessing rifle buffer in carbine tube. Look up what you purchased, it should say what it is on your invoices..... What lpk did you use?
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I'd say start with the magazine. If it still does it, then move on to the bolt catch. Some LPKs have been known to do that in the past. If still does it, check the buffer. Make sure you have a carbine buffer in there as the rifle buffer won't move back far enough let the bolt get captured. If I remember right the carbine buffer spring is 10-1/16" to 11-1/4", I had to google that number.
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Here is the rundown. I sought out help at a gun shop.
First tried a proven bolt. SR
Removed bad leaver. SR
Tried new bolt catch. SR
Switched charging Handel. SR
Noticed at this point the bolt doesn't move as far back into the upper as a pre assembled AR. Check the buffer and spring and what not
Switched springs. SR
Removed buffer tube. FIXED!!! My buffer tube has to thick of an end cap ( portion next to your shoulder) and wouldn't allow the bolt to slide back as far as required.
This is the seller on Amazon. I have emailed them to see what can be done. (http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/12/21/08f4f9e1d5ac24509cf284bcd12aac58.jpg)
I bought the new buffer tube as it was installed and working. Not wanting to wait.
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To thick a cap? Mil spec is mil spec. Carbine tube is flat on the end, rifle is angled and has a larger OD.
I have had a carbine function fine with the rifle spring until we shot it. Had a couple bursts from her!!
Sounds like maybe you have a rifle buffer, vs a carbine or the tube is threaded in to much. The tube just has to seat far enough as to not block the buffer stop plunger then lock it with the nut.
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This is the item description. I think anyone can claim something is mill spec. Nothing is regulatory of it
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To thick a cap?
Might be out of spec. Or one of those things where Murphy decided to play his hand and see what shenanigans he can cause.
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Yeo it happens. Just like the rifle tube with the carbine spring. Worked great until shot a little. Rifle spring is longer and diff rate.
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I wonder what would have happened if I had shot a round. With it being that much to short. Would I have shoved the bolt into my shoulder? Would I have not been able to chamber a round at all?
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Can someone measure one of your buffer tubes? (http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/12/21/0174d9d09bdab4bdb350c7f06b734ca3.jpg)
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Just picked up an extra one I had and checked it. 6 7/8" at the top and that little lip on the bottom is about 1/16" longer
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Wtf
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No kidding all we did to achieve a successful difference in the bolt was the tube
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I had to go back and look, but the one I measured came from the same seller on amazon. Same part description you bought. I bought a few several months ago. Only have that one not being used. No issues with the others. You just got a bad one I reckon.
That is not something I usually measure but now I'm curious. I'll blame you when I start taking buffers out of perfectly good guns just to see what that measurement is.
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I think the 16" barrel is the way to go. 18" and 20" are too long and heavy to haul around if you have to. The 16" is more than capable of 1/2 to 1MOA impacts to 600 yards which is about the max effective range of 5.56x45 anyways...although I've heard many stories about hits beyond. I can tell you that even the M4 with the 14.5" barrel works well enough as reported by my colleagues in Iraq and Afghanistan. Sub-MOA impacts at 400 to 600m. A solid gun with the right training and optics will give the balance you need in a weapon system.
I do have an SPR with a 20" bull barrel. She shoots super tight groups at any distance, but damn, I hate carrying her around. My LWRC M6IC-E is my AR of choice and is just as capable, plus I can maneuver in CQB.
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You had better post a photo of two in the photo section of yours
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Ok next and last part is to buy ammo. With options to the sky. Can someone help me with brand favorites, grain quantity?
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Ok next and last part is to buy ammo. With options to the sky. Can someone help me with brand favorites, grain quantity?
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For me and what I do, all the play ammo is 55 gr cheapo stuff. Some steel case, some brass. I just use if for training. when you are just training shouldering and firing a rapid pair then lower, then repeat, cheapo anything works fine.
For any distance and any sort of kill power the green tip M855 is your starting point. Then up from there a good 70+ gr bullet can add some distance to the weapon.
The grunts (Who know more) will disagree with me, I'm sure, but I was never impressed with this little .22 at any range at all. I'd shoot that thing all the time from my helo and getting like 500 feet up, I could barely see the bullet impact.
Now switching to my AK or one of the bubbas Socom rifles, you could see that bullet hit...EVERY time.
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If I recall you were wanting longer range. Not my thing with a 556 but if that's your bag then stay away from steel cases ammo In your chamber. Black Hills makes some good ammo and they have a 77gn Sierra Match King that will get out there well.
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62gr minimum, 69-77gr for max effect. I would like to find some 69gr that doesn't break the bank, they seem to want as much as loaded ammo sometimes.
SGAmmo has a good sale on it all now and fair shipping too. Think 450 for 1200 rnds.
Ares is now called American Weapon Components now and has 16 uppers for $500 with this code; XMAS30
http://aresarmor.com/store/Item/aa_BAupper
I have one and it is sweet.
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Took her out to the range today. Indoor rang is so nice, heated and clean.
My grouping shot is ok. I am terrible at standing and shooting for sure.
No issues except for agile in the bolt catch not being consistent. When the range master shot single shots it would catch the bolt like desired. When I shot it was sporadic at best and mostly not at all.
Is there something else I might be able to check?
Is my gas tube in the correct spot?
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Further inspection. My gas block is or was maybe not square on the venting hole from the barrel. I have suspicion that it could cause this. Maybe. Just maybe. I reset the block and will see about shooting it again maybe this weekend.
Kind of makes you long for property where you can stand off your back porch and let a few loose
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Help me understand. Do you mean the bolt it not going into battery or is not being held open on last round in mag?
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It's not locking open on the last round.
I can manually lock it open but it's not doing it like designed upon empty magazine
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What mags are you using Dave?
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The magpul p mag I think the third generation. With a pep window, 30 rnd
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I doubt it is the mags then. Have you tried other brand mags to see if it does the same?
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I bought one that did the same thing. It wound up being a bunch of blue loc-tite around the bolt catch. Whoever assembled it got carried away with it putting the mag release in I guess. I'm not saying that is your issue. Just don't overlook the simple stuff.
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I didn't try other magazines, not yet anyway
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Did you lube the crap out of it? if not and it's dry, it'll decide randomly if it wants to work correctly or not.
If you gas block isn't covering the hole, you aren't going to get what you need to cycle reliably.
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Is it cycling correctly when you dump a Mag? AR's don't like to be tight so if it's not loose & lubed well it can give you problems until it is broken in. Another thought is maybe it's over gassed? An adjustable gas block may help you dial this in but I would try that as last resort.
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I didn't add any additional lube from what the bcg was filled with. It was ozzing from the new one in the package, My understanding was they don't need much lube
I wonder if I ought to run a few hundred rounds in it first before I start to stress about it.
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It cycles shot after shot just fine. No hang ups or jamming. So far it's just that last shot where the bolt doesn't catch open
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I think Bobby was asking about lube on the bolt catch, not the bolt. Make sure it is lubed good and works smooth. The mag follower doesn't put a lot of pressure on it to lift.
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It floats really smooth as it is. I'll apply a bit of oil and see what happens. Can't hurt
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I meant the BCG. Lube her up good, as well as the channel the gas key rides in, and the BCG channel. Tight fitting parts don't like friction.
Try a different mag, if that doesn't work. Try replacing the bolt catch with a different one. It might be the bolt catch. Stranger things have happened. Or take it to your buddy or a gunsmith and see what they say.
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They're onto something. Make sure that bolt catch is not binding. Spit the upper and lower and insert a mag. See if the mag puts enough pressure on the catch to move it freely as you push down on the follower and release it slowly.
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Also a little oil in your Mag won't hurt, if the Mag is hanging up slightly after the last round this could happen as well.
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I have not used locktite on the mag release and wouldn't. If it moves back and forth easy it should be fine.
Sure you are seating the mag OK?
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I have not used locktite on the mag release and wouldn't. If it moves back and forth easy it should be fine.
I don't use it either. The thing won't turn to loosen by itself anyway. That was on a new Daniel Defense I bought. The mag release button was blue around the edges and stiff so I checked further and found the bolt catch covered in it too. That explained why it would not lock back on an empty mag. The only thing I could figure was they put them together and put them in a rack upside down. Who knows. It was a pretty frustrating day trying out a new gun that I expected to be great. That was the only issue I have found. Once that mess was cleaned up it runs perfectly.
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Those who followed my other comment on Don's page about my son. I have now done what I need to do so that I can say with out a doubt my child is free from access to rifles and or hand guns. (http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/12/28/0027fed94a61afdf47de5b6cb15f2a9f.jpg)
In the end I freed up a large portion of closet space and now have a heavy locked door that I can store things in. I have never worried about my children and guns. We have an open communication with each other and if question are asked they are answered with a good, simple and positive attitude as to not discourage questions. And rewards for making such choices as apposed to the ol adage of curiosity killed the cat so to speak.
The boy still needs training and much more understanding but I will not push the limits and test the father roll. I will be a good step dad and so my best to be good roll model.
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We have the same communication here. If you keep them in the dark, they will want to get at them all the more. I let them see and hold what they want.
I just got this since I want to have something more at hand near other end of the house.
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Jr. What is the size HG you can store in that. Is there a maximum size?
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Back to the bolt not holding open thing.
If it doesn't start locking back after swapping mags
then I'm wondering how you pushed in the pin that holds the bolt catch?
You could tap it enough to bend the ear in somewhat and bind the pivoting action of the latch.
I broke an ear off once...
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The way this is going I thought I would start a thread on storage or safes;
http://real-man-truckworks-and-survival.com/index.php?topic=1790.new#new
1911 fits just fine and on the cover too!
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Dave, any update? Bolt catch working?
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Update is none existent. Started school last week. Eight credit hours till I am done with and associates, this week has been eough
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Went shooting the ar yesterday. Sighted in for the distance I was at. Fifty yards or so. She is louder then I would like I guess I need to look for a different muzzle break.
She jammed on me twice miss fired a shell once too
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Remember almost all jams will be the mag with factory ammo.
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She is louder then I would like I guess I need to look for a different muzzle break.
Muzzle brakes are inherently loud. If you don't want loud look at a flash hider. Find an A2 style muzzle device, they are generally cheap since no one generally uses them, cause they aren't the super cool, new muzzle brake,flash hider, compensating GPS enabled laser guided , titanium alloy, with wi-fi enabled muzzle device.
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Wow, Wifi!
Don't have that on any of my gunz!
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Wow, Wifi!
Don't have that on any of my gunz!
It's cause you don't have the new "super cool, only the cool guys have them" muzzle device on any of your rifles.
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Wow, Wifi!
Don't have that on any of my gunz!
It's cause you don't have the new "super cool, only the cool guys have them" muzzle device on any of your rifles.
Yea, guess I'm not cool (anymore)
But I think I'm satisfied just where I am!
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Yea, guess I'm not cool (anymore)
But I think I'm satisfied just where I am!
You might win some cool points if you tell me how the POF is treating you.
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Don!! someone is DOTing up my thread with out me!!! ;D
so i mentioned to the wife that my ears were really sensitive after shooting on Saturday, even with my awesome pink noise reducing ear muffs.
Getting things lined up so i can can tell her i need to buy a flash hider to reduce noise and save my ears, that way i can hear her tell me she loves me 8)
as for wifi, i cant get that crap to work at my house let alone trying to get mobile wifi.
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Don!! someone is DOTing up my thread with out me!!! ;D
so i mentioned to the wife that my ears were really sensitive after shooting on Saturday, even with my awesome pink noise reducing ear muffs.
Getting things lined up so i can can tell her i need to buy a flash hider to reduce noise and save my ears, that way i can hear her tell me she loves me 8)
as for wifi, i cant get that crap to work at my house let alone trying to get mobile wifi.
Go to the local gun store, or a gun show and browse through their parts box, I can almost guarantee that you will find an A2 style flash hider in there, and it shouldn't cost you more than $15-$20 for it. I've seen them for $8 usually at the gun shows.
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Teach me the diff?
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From what I see the a2 only has ports on the top?
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What do they all do ?
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From what I see the a2 only has ports on the top?
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That is the main difference. No ports on the bottom is supposed to help with muzzle rise.
As for the differences of the last pic you posted. All of those are in the same class of flash hider. The long ones are for permanently attaching to a barrel to get around NFA laws regarding short barrel rifles. Not much point to that though cause if you wack 6" off of your barrel then attach a 6" muzzle device you end up with a louder rifle with the same overall length.
Unless your wanting to spend upwards of $100 on a flash hider you're best bet is to just go with an A2. I have A2s on all my rifles except the tan one in this pic.
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That one is a Spikes I paid I think $90 for and I haven't seen an $82 difference over a gun show $8 A2.
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Wow, Wifi!
Don't have that on any of my gunz!
That's because you're not an OPERATOR. If you were, you'd have wifi on your battle rifle. If you'd been in combat (in call of duty, or like online video game)you'd know better! 8)
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Well the AR is good and dusty. Found a local outdoor range that has a $10 fee to site the scope and such I for me. Figured I would have them target out to 200 yrds and call it China.
Intop of that brownells and all the damn emails are gonna cost me more money
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Well the AR is good and dusty. Found a local outdoor range that has a $10 fee to site the scope and such I for me. Figured I would have them target out to 200 yrds and call it China.
Intop of that brownells and all the damn emails are gonna cost me more money
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Not trying to beat you up but a lot of places will mount & bore sight the scope for you to get you on paper especially if you bought the scope & or mounts from them. Then with the amount of support here I'm sure the guys could help you dial it in. I'm no expert but I do my own. Just thinking learning a new skill, kinda goes back to that whole fish quote.
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I like the 50 yard zero. You'll be about 1inch high at 100, 1.5 inch high at 150 and then on target at 200. Within minute of scumbag out to 300
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If in doubt the easiest way to find your round is to start at 25. After the above mentioned bore sighting. At 25, with the bore sighting being close you should not miss the target.
Then move it as required to get 'close' at 25.
Confirm at 50/100 whatever you want and GTG.
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Not against learning a new skill, the issue is time and space to do it, the local has turned our nice fields into fire hazards. My town has had two small fires in our local area caused by lightning and another unknown. I don't want to be the third cause, the other portion of going where I bought it and the parts all came from the interwebs. I have an understanding of it. Just not the time or the desire to sit in the sun and shoot/adjust/shoot. It's pretty close already from the few times it's been out too. Just lazy I guess
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50/200 g2g, like Mr. Tex R. Neck said
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If you only have access to a 25m zero then it'll work fine. 50m will work as well. Hell if you know your sight's offset you can do a 10m zero as well, just confirm at the preferred zero distance afterwards.
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If you only have access to a 25m zero then it'll work fine. 50m will work as well. Hell if you know your sight's offset you can do a 10m zero as well, just confirm at the preferred zero distance afterwards.
Bobby, you realize you're gunna need to explain those terms in more detail right? I think this is the part where Don would say something about over educated grunts or something...... ;D
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Bobby, you realize you're gunna need to explain those terms in more detail right? I think this is the part where Don would say something about over educated grunts or something...... ;D
Let me break out the crayons, and the scratch and sniff markers and stickers.... Or I'll just post some websites that talk about it.
http://jerkingthetrigger.com/2015/02/13/zeroing-target-50200-yard-zero-at-10-yards/
http://jerkingthetrigger.com/2014/11/12/frank-proctors-50-yard-zero-at-10-yards/
Rifle to Optic offset...
How high the optic is off the bore axis of your rifle, this is measured by going from center of bore to center of sight. It's talked about in the video that I linked above.
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I get it, I am almost to shaky of a hand to even come close to the 1/4 adjustments in the article. I need more rifle time, more time on the range. More time sounds like I want a nap.
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I get it, I am almost to shaky of a hand to even come close to the 1/4 adjustments in the article. I need more rifle time, more time on the range. More time sounds like I want a nap.
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Better to learn skills now than having to figure it out on the fly......
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What's confusing? What sight do you have mounted? What is the adjustment values per click?
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If you have a bench and rest , the best way to get on paper is to remove the upper , bcg and charging handle. Brace the upper in the bench rest, sand bags, etc so that you are able to look through the barrel and see the middle of the target. Then sight down the sights and see where your sights alighn. Without moving the upper, adjust the optic to the center of the target. Recheck and adjust a few times until you are able to sight through the barrel and see that the optic is aligned to the same spot. That'll get you on paper and allow you to dial in. All your sight adjustments when zeroing should be done from a bench or prone for accuracy.
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Oh come on, thats WAY to easy!!
Remember that guy from Armageddon, he liked guns,,,,,,,,,,,,
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What's confusing? What sight do you have mounted? What is the adjustment values per click?
Bobby I was being sarcastic, I understand the process. Sight, shot and adjust then repeat. It's a time and space thing.
I do want to purchase a bore sight so I can simplify and shorten the process a bit
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I just finished paying a retired gentleman for accomplishing the task in six shots with his jig, I learned his process, I made a new friend and another opportunity for my scout troop to come. I'll shoot it next weekend in the desert and see how it does. As for now I am satisfied with my choice:)
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Bobby I was being sarcastic, I understand the process. Sight, shot and adjust then repeat. It's a time and space thing.
I do want to purchase a bore sight so I can simplify and shorten the process a bit
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Ah got ya.
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Dave you should have seen me zeroing a new 460 Wby magnum with scope. Six shots was enough for one day. Had to fine tune the next due to flinching. 6x$5/RD hand loads =$30!!
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460, nice too bad Norm isn't here to discuss I'm sure he'd like that round as fond of the 45-70 as he is.....
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I like my $15 and done. It was a pleasure to watch
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Dave you should have seen me zeroing a new 460 Wby magnum with scope. Six shots was enough for one day. Had to fine tune the next due to flinching. 6x$5/RD hand loads =$30!!
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That is expensive lead or copper you are using. Although I have not had to buy any powder or bullets in a long time so don't know.
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400 grain Barnes TSX over 117 gr of Vitivuri and a virgin Norma brass. Comes rocketing out at 2700+fps. Violent would be the word I was looking for. :-0
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'Violent' That's an understatement.
Some serious energy in those rounds.
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Where's Norm at? Did I miss something........flying saucer.......or did Ken's girlfriend pay him a visit......naw that's not it or Mrs. Kay woulda kicked her ample backside and Bernie'd be back on the trail.....so which is it? :o
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I looked a week or so ago and he has not been on for a month now. Maybe he needs a call??
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Norm is ok, he texted last night. With that said he likes to chat so if you want by all means give him a call.....
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So this is a dumb question I am sure I will get slammed for. But ...... Does anyone have a favorite you tube video I can watch to clean my AR? What parts need oil what parts don't? I know Google works but lots of people do things wrong too
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So this is a dumb question I am sure I will get slammed for. But ...... Does anyone have a favorite you tube video I can watch to clean my AR? What parts need oil what parts don't? I know Google works but lots of people do things wrong too
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Clean, field strip & clean then reassemble & dump quart of Mobil 1 full synthetic in until you reach the full line..... Wait that's half right, no fill line on ar but they do love their Mobil 1 full synthetic! ;D
Honestly, I've never read or watched a video how to clean a firearm. Heck TRN just informed me a month ago there were 3 special points on a glock to oil. Now the downside to me just tearing a gun apart is that I once had a colt police revolver lose a spring across the room & had to order a new one so maybe reading and watching videos might not be a bad idea....
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Dave the real trick is getting the carbon and fouling out of the bolt carrier( there is a scraper tool you can buy) and the lug recesses in the barrel extension. Other than that, basic cleaning. Lube is subjective. Hard to over lube but lube attracts dust and dirt. I favor CLP for my AR lube. The bolt and carrier need the most love. Also get in the habit of closing the dust cover after each evolution.
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You guys just screwed up!
First answer should have been
Man, that's a dumb question!
The the second and third along those lines, then about forth or fifth, actually tell him
...Lost opportunity! ;)
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You guys just screwed up!
First answer should have been
Man, that's a dumb question!
The the second and third along those lines, then about forth or fifth, actually tell him
...Lost opportunity! ;)
I must be getting soft, I felt bad be the slight smart a** that I was & here you go berating me for not be a bigger jerk.....
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You guys just screwed up!
First answer should have been
Man, that's a dumb question!
The the second and third along those lines, then about forth or fifth, actually tell him
...Lost opportunity! ;)
I must be getting soft, I felt bad be the slight smart a** that I was & here you go berating me for not be a bigger jerk.....
I'm just all over the map!
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Oldmanitis kickin in ^^^^
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Links to rock river lower?
Shawn,
I got a bad one!
Built a simple M4, all cheapo parts on a RR lower and the magazine hangs up in the well! As in the well seems to be a bit too narrow!!!!!!!
I've never come across this before, but even the inexpensive Anderson Arms lowers seem to have better quality control.
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Copy, I never bought any. I still am working through some spikes I've had. Think I have one left & never an issue with them. I bet RR would get you a new one that's right if you call them though..... Maybe show them this thread. ;)
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So this is a dumb question I am sure I will get slammed for. But ...... Does anyone have a favorite you tube video I can watch to clean my AR? What parts need oil what parts don't? I know Google works but lots of people do things wrong too
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Just for you chief!
Well that's a dumb question.
Now, like Charles said he bolt and BCG are the biggest.
I don't have the scraper, and must get one.
Then he rest is totally subjective to operating environment and ambient temperature.
And I'm kidding about the dumb question part, if you don't know, there is no dumb question.
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Negative & I'm sure Don would agree there are plenty of people I supervised who ask dumb questions. It's how I came up with my 8 o'clock rule (meaning no bs before 8 am or there will be hell to pay). I must admit looking back 8:01 was a different story..... ::)
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Wow you guys are all fired. Doting up my thread!
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I want some pictures fellas
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Oldmanitis kickin in ^^^^
You got to it before me!! I think the pain killers are messing with him.
Funny Don, I had a custom lower with the same well issue. Took months to get it back from the guy and all the other lowers were fine (big leo order).
Best one I have is a "Kaiser" from a local show during the "can't find em" phase.
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https://youtu.be/Jm2mg3Yky0I
And if she can do this,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
https://youtu.be/seEegWV5RYM
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I want some pictures fellas
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Here's one of Ken I believe....
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& of course Kens GF
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She musta saw the pic of him with the plate carrier diaper.......
Sorry, but you asked for pictures. :)
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She would think it is a real diaper.
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Never had any problems with my RRA lower. call them up, they'll probably send you a new one.
Dave, order a CAT M4 tool... the gizmo TRN was talking about
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Thanks for the photos guys. Now I can think of Hillary while I clean my really dangerous #blackgunsmatter rifle
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Shawn, I quit wearing helmets when I left home. My mom has zero control over me now. :P
Dave, I'm sorry for Shawn's behavior. 14 year olds are kinda like that.
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Agreed, I am very immature & should be banned again!
Note: Ken didn't say anything about not wearing diapers though, maybe he has moved into the "adult versions"
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That picture would make a nice target,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
(wavier to SS, no threat made, just a picture)
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Here's the correct photo JR-
and notice the correct nature of the setting........BEHIND barbed wire!
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Yes, but Billy is no longer a problem (at least not to men)
But, lets keep them together in a safe place.
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Yes, but Billy is no longer a problem (at least not to men)
But, lets keep them together in a safe place. - Just consider it "visiting hours"!
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& of course Kens GF
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She musta saw the pic of him with the ASSAULT diaper.......
Sorry, but you asked for pictures. :)
Fixed it for y'all!
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Dave, I don't have any pictures, but what everyone else said is right on. I use Militec on mine, because it becomes dry and doesn't attract dust. What I do is break down the bolt and bolt carrier group. Clean really well, removing all the carbon, then coat all but the firing pin with a light coat using a q-tip. I also do the same with the inside of the upper assembly everywhere the BCG slides. I clean the lock-up area of the barrel extension, but don't worry about getting all the carbon out (it's about impossible without special tools). Clean that area to the best of you're ability and you'll be okay. I use pipe cleaners to clean out the vents around the gas tube (where it leaves the receiver) regularly, as these will gum up with carbon. I wipe down the buffer and buffer spring with my cleaning cloth (which is a little oily), make sure there's not any dirt/dust in the buffer tube. If I've got any dirt on the butt, I also clean out the drain hole with a pipe cleaner. Hope this all helps. It's A Way. LOL
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So went out shooting today wit the daughter, i figure the 4 inch targets were about 100yrds out
It was a good day and had absolutely no cycle issues with the gun after maybe another 100 rounds
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https://vimeo.com/181577697 (https://vimeo.com/181577697)
I am not sure how slow motion video will turn out being uploaded but she was smashing clay targets from a good long distance
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Cool Dave!
Does it still have the issue with the bolt catch?
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Why the large riser?
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My boys love shooting clays with anything! Next in line are shaving cream cans.
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So I can get the scope higher. Duh
Jk. I was struggling with the site window and it helped
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So I can get the scope higher. Duh
Jk. I was struggling with the site window and it helped
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Do you absolutely NEED it raised that high?
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So I can get the scope higher. Duh
Jk. I was struggling with the site window and it helped
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Do you absolutely NEED it raised that high?
Bobby, I would list the reasons why you would want it lower personally. I know you're hinting around but this is new to him. I think a little more direct approach would help.
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I found myself smashing my cheek into my stock to be able to get the site picture
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Bobby, I would list the reasons why you would want it lower personally. I know you're hinting around but this is new to him. I think a little more direct approach would help.
My main reason is the increased height over bore. But if it works for him, I can't say anything.
I found myself smashing my cheek into my stock to be able to get the site picture
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Define smashing your cheek into the stock.
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To the point it is uncomfortable on my cheek, the other option I had given thought to was a longer stock ( not sure if they make them) or a butt plate for the end of the stock so I don't feel so cramped, I could also move the scope further down the rifle which might aid also
Nothing is permanent but for the moment I like it ok,
I am going to build some standing target holders out of pvc so it will be easy to transport and store.
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To the point it is uncomfortable on my cheek, the other option I had given thought to was a longer stock ( not sure if they make them) or a butt plate for the end of the stock so I don't feel so cramped, I could also move the scope further down the rifle which might aid also
Nothing is permanent but for the moment I like it ok,
I am going to build some standing target holders out of pvc so it will be easy to transport and store.
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WARNING PARTS GET EXPENSIVE REAL QUICK.
What stock do you have on it?
B5 systems SOPMOD-B stock might have a good cheek weld for you.
http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/AR15-Stocks-s/49.htm
VLTOR also makes a stock that has a good cheek weld, although the EMOD one has the zigzag pattern on the battery compartment that has a tendency to pull facial hair; well at least the earlier versions of the VLTOR stocks did.
http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/Vltor-Stocks-s/73.htm
Bravo Company USA Gunfighter stocks.
http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/BCM-GUNFIGHTER-s-Stock-Mod-0-Black-p/bcm-gfs-mod-0-blk.htm
You could even be baller and run a fixed stock! You can generally find those at gun shows or in the back parts bin of gun shops.
Stocks are pricey yes, but if it helps you achieve a better cheek weld without smashing your face into the stock, then it might be an option.
As for the scope if you think running it out further will help; and it probably will; look for an SPR scope mount. Here's just a few of the options out there.
http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/Optic-Mounts-for-AR15-s/96.htm
http://www.larue.com/riflescope-mounts?sort=popular
https://www.americandefensemanufacturing.com/browse/category/mounts/opticmounts/scopemounts/ar15-scope-mounts/
http://www.bobroengineering.com/browse/category/scope-mounts/
Can you find cheaper mounts and stocks, yes. I'm not telling you that you HAVE to shop at one of the places I listed. I want you to see what I was talking about, and give you an idea of what you're getting into.
As always you can PM me if you want to talk more about options, OR if you just feel the need to swear at me or berate me for one thing or another. If you ask me a question I'll answer it if I can, if I can't I'll either find the answer and get back to you or help you find the answer.
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Target holders are in great supply right now. Look at all of the political signs from the people that lost in the primaries.
Like Bobby said, get a good stock. Your cheek weld is vital. It must not only feel good but be repeatable/ consistent.
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https://www.magpul.com/products/ctr-carbine-stock-commercial-spec?productVariantID=VO343
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That's the one I run only in mil-spec.
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https://www.magpul.com/products/ctr-carbine-stock-commercial-spec?productVariantID=VO343
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It's a good stock, but is it similar to the one you already run?
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That's the one I run only in mil-spec.
x2 for all my shorter guns.......
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Good hell Bobby I would double the cost of my ar after one of those optic mounts add.
Explain to me why you are against my riser ? It's 1inch
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It's a good stock, but is it similar to the one you already run?
That is the stock I have to answer your question earlier
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Good hell Bobby I would double the cost of my ar after one of those optic mounts add.
Explain to me why you are against my riser ? It's 1inch
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http://www.brownells.com/optics-mounting/rings-mounts-bases/mount-sets/ar-pepr-quick-detach-mounts-prod44296.aspx
It's not that I'm saying your riser isn't correct. If it works for you run it for all it's worth. However, you generally want the optic as CLOSE to the bore as possible. But I also understand if physical differences prevent that; so if running the spacer is comfortable for you, and works for you, then that's all that matters on this blue marble spinning in space.
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Make it your own and then go run it. These things are like legos. Build what you want and then go play.
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Make it your own and then go run it. These things are like legos. Build what you want and then go play.
Expensive legos at that.