Post by: stlaser on October 20, 2022, 02:04:49 PM
The low down is a legit log cabin built by meadowlark homes out of libby, MT (Amish family originally from Lagrange, IN my old stomping grounds). It’s just shy of 1600 sq ft, 2 bed, 2 bath, 2 story home on 3.66 acres in the middle of the woods in NW MT literally on the way to no where surrounded by mountains, lakes and rivers. Water is in abundance along with all sorts of critters.
Currently on the property is a 2 car detached garage 24’ x 26’ with a potentially unfinished living space above that has water and sewer run to it already. Place came with a 8’ x 10’ wood shed which I’m doubling in length at the moment. New shop on property will go up next spring or summer and trying to get a 12’ x 20’ addition off back side of garage put up before the deep freeze sets in. As far as that goes for MT it doesn’t get that cold here due to lower elevation.
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Post by: dave945 on October 20, 2022, 02:35:43 PM
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Post by: stlaser on October 20, 2022, 03:25:55 PM
That’s a beautiful spot! Congratulations!
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Thank you :likebutton:
Post by: Flyin6 on October 20, 2022, 03:41:19 PM
Where are the maple and poplar trees for the autumn foliage?
Post by: stlaser on October 20, 2022, 06:29:16 PM
That's legit!
Where are the maple and poplar trees for the autumn foliage?
Thanks, not where I’m at. They are mostly down by the river in this area.
Post by: oklawall on October 20, 2022, 07:53:18 PM
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Post by: Bigdave_185 on October 20, 2022, 08:19:28 PM
100% love your choice
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Post by: TexasRedNeck on October 20, 2022, 09:01:29 PM
So you got a spot when I come to visit? I work cheap
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Post by: stlaser on October 20, 2022, 09:08:38 PM
Congrats Shawn. Happy for you and the wife.
So you got a spot when I come to visit? I work cheap
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Thanks guys, Charles we will have the spare bedroom setup. Long term plan is to finish area above garage but I’ll most likely winterize it yearly so short 3 seasons place to crash.
Post by: stlaser on October 20, 2022, 09:12:40 PM
This is west of our cabin and we’re walking east in the evening. Our driveway is in middle of pic top to bottom on the right.
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Little pre-commie (havanese) dogs approve. Hard to tell they’re not commies though as they always want me to share whatever I have, usually food.
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Post by: stlaser on October 20, 2022, 09:18:48 PM
Wife unit learnin how to start and properly use the wood stove for when I’m traveling. We have back up electric in wall heaters in each bedroom and bathroom in addition to the heat pump so she should be ok….
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Then a great shot of her sporting GLO apparel (made by our very own Turner, he does nice work) and packin the judge.
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Post by: TexasRedNeck on October 20, 2022, 09:50:32 PM
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Post by: Bob Smith on October 20, 2022, 10:46:09 PM
Post by: KensAuto on October 20, 2022, 10:58:01 PM
.Oh and thanks for the pics
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Post by: stlaser on October 20, 2022, 11:17:13 PM
Wow Shawn. Nice
Oh and thanks for the pics
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Thanks guys, Ken you’re lucky I didn’t post a selfie! Lol
Bob, we were very lucky I believe. We prayed over this for months. Although at times it was definitely a struggle the timing couldn’t have been more perfect.
We had three options, find a home we could make our own that was in good shape (this was only one in the area not on a golf course). Buy land, however anything decent and reasonably priced was picked up earlier this year and now slim pickings in addition to its the fall and we need a place to survive the winter up here. Third option was buy a place with good bones but a gut job. With unknown of pricing and time of year we felt this was the right call.
I have t mentioned this but it would appear we have a great husband and wife neighbor. He’s originally from Alberta, lived in Whitefish and then Vegas most of his life and is a retired lineman. He spent 2 years in Israel as a kid so has triple citizenship. Moved here for similar reasons and we see eye to eye on just about everything thus far. His wife is a nurse where my wife works. Haven’t met her yet as she’s been in Vegas helping a daughter with new grand child.
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Post by: stlaser on October 25, 2022, 11:55:24 AM
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Higher elevations got some snow two evenings ago.
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Ordered roof tin and finished up framework on wood shed. I’ll eventually connect the two for storage in between. When I get back from Colorado I’m going to buy the side slats and get them stained. Need my propane salamander from the Colorado shop.
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Post by: TexasRedNeck on October 25, 2022, 04:25:58 PM
You could connect it now and move the end slats from the right side of the current structure to the right of the new structure.
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Post by: KensAuto on October 25, 2022, 04:56:34 PM
... although I don't remember seeing ammo, nor the tools required to use it.
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Post by: TexasRedNeck on October 25, 2022, 06:40:41 PM
Do you have a local hardware store like we do in Clark Fork? They have literally anything a person might need. Lumber, chainsaws, plumbing, etc etc.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20221025/1614f59b5ac81b87b266b72d3600f49e.jpg)
... although I don't remember seeing ammo, nor the tools required to use it.
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Post by: stlaser on October 25, 2022, 08:04:04 PM
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Post by: KensAuto on October 25, 2022, 08:25:21 PM
Man, you're in a metropolitan!
There's only 500 in my city.
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Post by: stlaser on October 25, 2022, 10:16:54 PM
Lol
Man, you're in a metropolitan!
There's only 500 in my city.
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Lol, I don’t think either is growing. Ours has an average age of like 52 and only 7% of the county isn’t owned by the state or feds.
Post by: Bob Smith on October 25, 2022, 11:32:40 PM
Lol
Man, you're in a metropolitan!
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And that count includes the chickens and ducks
Post by: oklawall on October 26, 2022, 07:32:59 AM
Now don't be discounting the dog, cat, sheep, horse and cows. That is the only way Maud got up to 1,100Lol
Man, you're in a metropolitan!
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And that count includes the chickens and ducks
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Post by: stlaser on October 26, 2022, 12:15:50 PM
About a mile up the road here a couple months back a guy had 7 mountain lions in his back yard. That made the paper even, I think 7 constitutes a pride maybe?
Post by: dave945 on October 26, 2022, 02:09:30 PM
Well, I’ve been told there is a bear every square mile up here and as many big cats. The only thing my neighbor hasn’t seen on our property is a bear, yet.Did they have a rainbow flag?
About a mile up the road here a couple months back a guy had 7 mountain lions in his back yard. That made the paper even, I think 7 constitutes a pride maybe?
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Post by: stlaser on October 26, 2022, 03:01:34 PM
Well, I’ve been told there is a bear every square mile up here and as many big cats. The only thing my neighbor hasn’t seen on our property is a bear, yet.Did they have a rainbow flag?
About a mile up the road here a couple months back a guy had 7 mountain lions in his back yard. That made the paper even, I think 7 constitutes a pride maybe?
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I doubt either dared to fly that up here
Post by: KensAuto on October 26, 2022, 03:14:28 PM
You'd never hear about it if it happened!Well, I’ve been told there is a bear every square mile up here and as many big cats. The only thing my neighbor hasn’t seen on our property is a bear, yet.Did they have a rainbow flag?
About a mile up the road here a couple months back a guy had 7 mountain lions in his back yard. That made the paper even, I think 7 constitutes a pride maybe?
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I doubt either dared to fly that up here
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Post by: stlaser on October 26, 2022, 08:09:27 PM
You'd never hear about it if it happened!Well, I’ve been told there is a bear every square mile up here and as many big cats. The only thing my neighbor hasn’t seen on our property is a bear, yet.Did they have a rainbow flag?
About a mile up the road here a couple months back a guy had 7 mountain lions in his back yard. That made the paper even, I think 7 constitutes a pride maybe?
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I doubt either dared to fly that up here
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The wife unit claims she did see a blm sign in front of a home in libby
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Picked up the steel roof panels yesterday morning and first chance to install was today. Of course it decided to give us our first snow last night. So I scraped snow off top of stringers and put up the panels. Looks like I calculated correctly and have two left to cover the gap between them when I get to it.
I have 2 cords of split seasoned firewood coming this week. So I wanted to get a roof up. I’m going to grab the side boards 1x6 and stain it like the other one. They do not have 1x6 treated up here and cedar 1x6 are out of stock due to stupid prices no one wanted to pay. I brought my propane salamander up this trip so I’ll stain those boards inside my 2 car garage. In the meantime I think my little 5x8 trailer is going to hold the wood with a tarp over it until the side boards go up on new wood shed addition.
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Post by: stlaser on November 09, 2022, 05:28:48 PM
Went and picked up 1x6’s this morning then hung them in 20 degree weather. At least it’s done for now.
I was able to track down the stain. Says it needs 24 hours of 50 degree plus temps. That will come next spring. It should apply better to wood that isn’t this fresh anyhow. Yes I’m aware wood spacing is a little off in a couple spots, it’s a wood shed and I was after less cuts (3 total on the side boards).
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Post by: Flyin6 on November 09, 2022, 09:43:56 PM
Thanks guys, it will keep wood dry and shouldn’t blow away. Two split cords inbound tomorrow afternoon. Looking forward to next year I purchased a saw today. Details will be forth coming shortly.Free wood off my farm if you want it. Be a bit more than a Saturday drive, but it's here!
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2+ cords of Fir showed up today, splits a lot easier than many of the Midwest hardwoods I grew up with.
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Post by: Bob Smith on November 10, 2022, 10:15:18 PM
Post by: stlaser on November 10, 2022, 10:39:31 PM
Shawn, you must have a small firebox in your stove if the wood needs to be split so small.
It’s pretty small, the cabin is just shy of 1600 sq ft. The stove is a Kuma and I’m not overly impressed, I had a quad fire in my 3500 sq ft farm house in Indiana and it was a beast. Going to run it this year and see how it goes, it may get relegated to shop back up heat next year. We will see…
I think a jotul is probably the best bet for this small cabin. Down side is I’ll be splitting a lot still. I’ll have log splitter here by next year though.
Post by: Bob Smith on November 10, 2022, 11:12:51 PM
Post by: stlaser on November 11, 2022, 10:23:07 AM
We picked up a County Line log splitter from Tractor Supply two years ago. Very well built and good price point. Don’t even have a wood stove so the neighbors are happy. Given away around six cord of mixed fir, Madrone, and maple so far. Have about a cord for an fire down by the water on a nice summer evening watching the sunset.
Nice :likebutton:
I was building a huge splitter for the 3 pt of my tractor back in Indiana 8 years ago before moving to Colorado. Mounted cylinder on beam and built the 4 way splitting head then decided to move. It’s in my shop in Colorado because I had so much in it I couldn’t fathom selling it. I’m going to make it a towable unit that will stand horizontal or vertical. I even have a Honda engine for it. Just need to put it together.
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Post by: stlaser on November 11, 2022, 08:06:25 PM
Frankly, it never dawned on me to try an ax versus the maul. In Indiana you wouldn’t dare try an ax to split hardwoods. The only ax I have is an estwing camp ax that actually lives under back seat in my truck. Maybe I’ll try that and see how it goes. Regardless, an ax is cheap and definitely easier on my not so young bones. :likebutton:
Post by: Flyin6 on November 11, 2022, 10:43:24 PM
Ya know Tate, you make a lotta sense……East wing makes the best hatchets/small axes in the world.
Frankly, it never dawned on me to try an ax versus the maul. In Indiana you wouldn’t dare try an ax to split hardwoods. The only ax I have is an estwing camp ax that actually lives under back seat in my truck. Maybe I’ll try that and see how it goes. Regardless, an ax is cheap and definitely easier on my not so young bones. :likebutton:
Post by: stlaser on November 12, 2022, 06:26:07 AM
Ya know Tate, you make a lotta sense……East wing makes the best hatchets/small axes in the world.
Frankly, it never dawned on me to try an ax versus the maul. In Indiana you wouldn’t dare try an ax to split hardwoods. The only ax I have is an estwing camp ax that actually lives under back seat in my truck. Maybe I’ll try that and see how it goes. Regardless, an ax is cheap and definitely easier on my not so young bones. :likebutton:
Agreed, will give it a try when I get back. Headed out again first of the week for a bit.
Post by: EL TATE on November 14, 2022, 06:42:59 PM
when you're a teenager i think you automatically qualify as the laziest person, so I guess i fit that "give the hardest job to the laziest person and they'll find the most efficient way to do it" trope. My shoulder and I just didn't like swinging the maul, and after i started sharpening the axe myself, life just got easier.
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When I returned I had a new lawn ornament
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So this last Monday they opened up this holes and today poured the footer after forming it yesterday
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This will be a 20’ x 12’ room off the rear of the detached garage. I’m going to build it out for my clean process ie: machining so the mill & lathe will go in here along with a couple work benches. Literally 30’ walk from my front door to this small shop. The concrete guys are also adding a sidewalk (from house to this shop) and a concrete slab in front of the garage while they’re here. The mini split I had purchased for my office in Colorado I brought up this trip. They are putting a small pad down for it and I will run two heads off the pump. One for the space we will finish above garage and this shop then too.
If I can get this shop closed in it will allow me to wire and insulate / drywall this winter. Along with getting those machines moved up here. Then spring / summer to start on larger shop is the plan.
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Post by: stlaser on November 23, 2022, 05:09:03 PM
Phew…for a minute I thought you were burying H!
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Pretty sure if Ken stopped by these boys could find a place for her…..
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First Thanksgiving at the cabin, oldest had to work and couldn’t make it. People gotta have their $8 legal addictive stimulants infused with sugar……
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Post by: JR on November 24, 2022, 04:47:44 PM
Did you ever get that CNC working? Thinking of getting one again.
Post by: stlaser on November 24, 2022, 05:17:19 PM
Looks great, happy Thanksgiving.
Did you ever get that CNC working? Thinking of getting one again.
You as well.
No sir, still sitting in the box. Almost made its way up here last trip but I ran out of room.
Post by: TexasRedNeck on November 24, 2022, 10:50:31 PM
Happy thanksgiving
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Post by: stlaser on November 25, 2022, 02:27:22 PM
You going to set that pickup up with a jointed snow plow? Keep your place plowed out and hire out. Should be plenty of work clearing snow for people. Those smaller jointed plows can really get around in small areas.
Thanks guys, bucket list item was this move.
Bob, doubtful but maybe on the fummins we’ll see but it is “the shop work truck”. I used to do commercial plowing in NE IN. First business I ever “officially” owned / operated. It was ok but not that much fun come year three-ish. I am going to buy a skid loader this coming year. I started watching auctions, good excavator friend of mine is telling me to hold off as the crazy prices currently he believes will come back some on equipment next year. I’m going to put the shop up myself and hire out the concrete slab only. Probably rent an excavator or mini for a week or two then can finish up everything else with skid loader.
Post by: stlaser on November 25, 2022, 02:34:04 PM
Shawn what ya gonna get your girls for Christmas.
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Dave, funny you asked. The wife decided Dad is in charge and she wanted us to get them items of true value versus clothes they don’t wear and dumb stuff that doesn’t get used. We gave a lot away to Salvation Army when we sold the big house. I think she finally realized a lot of that isn’t necessary.
So I ordered each a 10oz bar of silver, I had been buying more physical this fall and decided to get them each a small bar. For the record we spend $500-$600 per kid each year. We also help out during the year with various things so I believe this is more than adequate come Christmas. Dad handed out a little cash last night so they could go shopping with Mom today for instance. We’re then giving them some cash at Christmas and each a fuel card. I think the wife is doing each a stocking with candy and various smelly liquids of some sort, ya know girly chit.
Post by: Bigdave_185 on November 25, 2022, 04:42:11 PM
My daughter is hard to buy for as she doesn’t do much. Best I came up with was some dog toys for her monster ol English.
I like the silver idea!!!
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Post by: stlaser on November 25, 2022, 05:31:56 PM
That sounds like a sound gift for kids
My daughter is hard to buy for as she doesn’t do much. Best I came up with was some dog toys for her monster ol English.
I like the silver idea!!!
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When the wife asked me what I thought was a good store of value I stated, silver, lead and guns…..
We’re paying for a wedding next year and making a large final contribution to the youngest’ college fund so pretty much meant guns and ammo were off this years list of presents.
Post by: JR on November 25, 2022, 05:58:35 PM
Post by: stlaser on November 25, 2022, 06:41:01 PM
Buy tracked if you get one. Tires are OK but easy to get stuck, no flotation.
I had one with tires, don’t recall getting it stuck. Sounds like operator error JR….. :tongue:
Post by: Bob Smith on November 25, 2022, 09:39:08 PM
I understand I guess. If you don’t like the work don’t do it. I really liked the snow and ice times of the year, never a dull moment. I bought 3 one ton 4x4 pickups and put sanders and Meyer’s hyd. plows on them. We were able to open roads that never got plowed in years past. Yes even though they were 4x4 rigs we still had to pull them back onto the roads from time to time with the graders or front loaders. Yes we knocked over some rotten mail box posts and a few signs but man we cleaned up lots of roads and the commissioners liked it.You going to set that pickup up with a jointed snow plow? Keep your place plowed out and hire out. Should be plenty of work clearing snow for people. Those smaller jointed plows can really get around in small areas.
Thanks guys, bucket list item was this move.
Bob, doubtful but maybe on the fummins we’ll see but it is “the shop work truck”. I used to do commercial plowing in NE IN. First business I ever “officially” owned / operated. It was ok but not that much fun come year three-ish. I am going to buy a skid loader this coming year. I started watching auctions, good excavator friend of mine is telling me to hold off as the crazy prices currently he believes will come back some on equipment next year. I’m going to put the shop up myself and hire out the concrete slab only. Probably rent an excavator or mini for a week or two then can finish up everything else with skid loader.
Post by: stlaser on November 25, 2022, 10:20:51 PM
One of my requirements for skid loader is enclosed cab with heat / ac so I’ll toss a blade attachment on it and do our driveway.
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Post by: Flyin6 on November 26, 2022, 10:07:14 AM
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Post by: stlaser on November 26, 2022, 12:00:23 PM
Aren't they called "skid-Steer" for a good reason
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^^^^^^^ good point ^^^^^^^
Post by: stlaser on November 29, 2022, 11:41:38 AM
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Started forming walls yesterday, hoping to see some crete poured soon.
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Post by: JR on November 29, 2022, 08:17:01 PM
Post by: TexasRedNeck on November 29, 2022, 08:27:31 PM
They poured my slab and parking area the morning it was 29 degrees. As soon as the temp went above 32 they mixed the mud and sent it to the job site.
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Post by: stlaser on November 29, 2022, 08:27:36 PM
Good luck on pouring in the cold. Hear that has issues.
Not really, yeah it takes a couple extra steps but it’s not an issue overall. I did it on federally funded jobs (think lots of specifications) 25 years ago. If it was a huge concern I wouldn’t do it.
Post by: stlaser on November 29, 2022, 08:29:11 PM
As long as it stays above freezing there’s not a problem
They poured my slab and parking area the morning it was 29 degrees. As soon as the temp went above 32 they mixed the mud and sent it to the job site.
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Technically it doesn’t have to be above freezing as long as ground below isn’t frozen. There’s a machine called a thawzall that can help with that.
Post by: JR on November 29, 2022, 08:59:41 PM
Post by: Bigdave_185 on November 29, 2022, 10:09:50 PM
Hell we are pouring asphalt Thursday in 30 degrees
They have developed a product are testing for Ogden city. About 400’ of road and they are willing to work with us and the asphalt company to test it out.
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Post by: stlaser on November 29, 2022, 10:10:46 PM
Just know you don't want it to freeze when curing. Should produce some heat, but.
They add calcium at lower temps and cover it with insulated blankets. The wood forms also insulate it. The calcium increases the heat in the concrete, it actually strengthens the concrete quicker.
Post by: wyorunner on November 30, 2022, 02:34:22 PM
We mix the mud with hot water of more calcium for cold weather helps it cure well enough then toss a few concrete insulated blankets over itDave, what does a yard of Concrete cost in your area these days?
Hell we are pouring asphalt Thursday in 30 degrees
They have developed a product are testing for Ogden city. About 400’ of road and they are willing to work with us and the asphalt company to test it out.
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Post by: Bigdave_185 on November 30, 2022, 08:16:05 PM
Wow. Mine was $120/ydHow long ago was that, the pool area?
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Shawn did you get a breakdown of your costs?
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Post by: stlaser on November 30, 2022, 08:22:29 PM
Wow. Mine was $120/ydHow long ago was that, the pool area?
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Shawn did you get a breakdown of your costs?
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No, it was expensive and I knew it would be but needed to get things moving. Honestly, I told the wife before I had it quoted the machine shop will cost us X and in my mind excavation and concrete came out exactly to what I thought it would be. Then I added other concrete work I wanted done completely blowing that original number. True story…..
Post by: stlaser on November 30, 2022, 09:20:47 PM
I had a friend with Jotul in Indiana and they loved it. My thought was those are 20 yr stoves and I can use the Kuma as a back up in my big shop once I get it built.
So before I made the trip down to Colorado last time I had inquired about a jotul F500 model with enamel finish, wife’s only request. This is a stove capable of accepting a 22”-24” log and heating a 2200’ sq ft home which is 25% larger than our cabin.
I was told upon my inquiry that the enamel finish had been discontinued (covid) I believe however Andersons out of Kalispell had a bunch on order and had never canceled the orders hoping they might start producing them again. When I initially called they had none at either location.
So fast forward as I’m driving south to Colorado I get a call that one is coming in and I’m first in line. I make deposit over phone and rest is history. I then setup a chimney expert to swap them out on 12/07/22 and he asks for pictures of current setup.
Day before I return home wife calls and can’t get stove to light. I tell her don’t mess with it just run mini split and electric heat backup.
I get home and glass door to stove is completely sooted up like no air. I then try to load it myself and I can’t get it to go either. So I start to take pictures and notice creosote on outside of the chimney
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I thought that’s odd and take closer look. The stove pipe is upside down. Whomever installed this put the chimney in backwards. Closer inspection and I find this at the ceiling.
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Apparently after speaking to installer via text on these log homes it’s normal to leave one section unscrewed in order to slip fit as cabin settles but again whomever installed this didn’t know to do that either.
Add to it we paid a home inspector prior to purchasing this cabin and other than some loose handrails and a leaky tub drain we were told it was a very solid home. Insert eye roll…..
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Post by: TexasRedNeck on November 30, 2022, 09:44:29 PM
Nov of 2020Wow. Mine was $120/ydHow long ago was that, the pool area?
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Shawn did you get a breakdown of your costs?
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Shawn glad you caught that.
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Post by: Flyin6 on November 30, 2022, 10:33:00 PM
Concrete is around $150/yard around Northern KY without the fiber and no color, 3500# mix
Post by: oklawall on December 01, 2022, 06:50:39 AM
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Post by: Sammconn on December 01, 2022, 08:05:24 AM
That’s a backwards chimney all right.
Good thing that got caught before something ugly.
Post by: stlaser on December 01, 2022, 02:35:47 PM
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Day 2 of our first big snowstorm, they had called 8-14” and I believe we are at 18”+
It keeps coming and was supposed to have quit 2 hours ago already…..
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Post by: Sammconn on December 01, 2022, 03:08:14 PM
Gonna need a snowblower or two.
Post by: JR on December 01, 2022, 03:17:12 PM
Post by: Nate on December 01, 2022, 03:35:52 PM
I believe you’re officially in snow country now Shawn…
Gonna need a snowblower or two.
time to get you a little bigger one of these shawn
Post by: stlaser on December 01, 2022, 03:39:36 PM
I believe you’re officially in snow country now Shawn…
Gonna need a snowblower or two.
My neighbor just tells me this is the largest snowfall all at once they have had in 3 years he’s been here. I said “you’re welcome, I come up here and try to build a machine shop addition and this is what you get.” Skid loader is on the agenda already…..
Post by: stlaser on December 01, 2022, 03:40:15 PM
I believe you’re officially in snow country now Shawn…
Gonna need a snowblower or two.
time to get you a little bigger one of these shawn
Definitely needs a cab and heat…..
Post by: EL TATE on December 01, 2022, 05:19:23 PM
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Day 2 of our first big snowstorm, they had called 8-14” and I believe we are at 18”+
It keeps coming and was supposed to have quit 2 hours ago already…..
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If you have a little creek nearby and you aren't winter trout fishing I'm not going to speak to you for a while.
Post by: Bigdave_185 on December 01, 2022, 06:28:40 PM
I wanna sit on the porch surrounded by snow and have cup after cup of coffee all day long
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Post by: Flyin6 on December 01, 2022, 07:04:28 PM
Pure bliss right there once that fireplace is right.Meee Tooo
I wanna sit on the porch surrounded by snow and have cup after cup of coffee all day long
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Post by: JR on December 01, 2022, 07:07:57 PM
Warm rum drink would work great there!
Post by: Bigdave_185 on December 01, 2022, 07:23:35 PM
I could live with that. About what I get but its gone in a day or so. Guess for the view for the rest of the year it would work.Now we are talking. Party this winter at Shawn’s. We can toss sleepin bags on the living room floor and if we all bring a coffee pot we should be good for a few days. Some Smirnoff butterscotch in morning coffee is good with me
Warm rum drink would work great there!
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Post by: Flyin6 on December 01, 2022, 07:37:11 PM
Shawn may say it's OK, but my advice is to get permission from Miss Tonya before trying anything like that...I could live with that. About what I get but its gone in a day or so. Guess for the view for the rest of the year it would work.Now we are talking. Party this winter at Shawn’s. We can toss sleepin bags on the living room floor and if we all bring a coffee pot we should be good for a few days. Some Smirnoff butterscotch in morning coffee is good with me
Warm rum drink would work great there!
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Post by: stlaser on December 01, 2022, 09:17:30 PM
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Day 2 of our first big snowstorm, they had called 8-14” and I believe we are at 18”+
It keeps coming and was supposed to have quit 2 hours ago already…..
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If you have a little creek nearby and you aren't winter trout fishing I'm not going to speak to you for a while.
Lake creek, about 500 yards out my back door. However, for reasons I won’t delve into very deep on the interwebs I cannot get a mt st license until a couple things in Colorado get finalized. So I refuse to pay out of state fees atm. Sorry
Post by: stlaser on December 01, 2022, 09:19:18 PM
Post by: KensAuto on December 01, 2022, 10:52:59 PM
Sam caught it (no surprise) but to me it just looks like a pipe going into the roof flange.
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Post by: stlaser on December 01, 2022, 11:41:24 PM
What was wrong in that stove pipe pic?
Sam caught it (no surprise) but to me it just looks like a pipe going into the roof flange.
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Male end goes down not up. I didn’t realize it until I saw the creosote running down the outside which should not happen unless it’s backwards. If male end is down then it drips back into firebox.
Yeah, Sam knew right away but guessing he’s dealt with it a lot. I always hired someone to install and clean / service it annually back in Indiana. So admittedly I know enough about it to be dangerous apparently same as guy who installed this…..
Roof flange is dented up, the metal fabricator in me said “that looks like chit and would never leave my shop that way so something is definitely not right”. According to chimney expert you leave one stove pipe joint loose so as cabin (logs shrink) the joint can slip into itself. In turn not f up that expensive piping and roof flange.
Post by: rpar86 on December 02, 2022, 12:45:38 AM
Some Smirnoff butterscotch in morning coffee is good with me
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Ew you lost me there.
Post by: Flyin6 on December 02, 2022, 12:08:32 PM
Not me...Actually had me thinkin'Some Smirnoff butterscotch in morning coffee is good with me
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Ew you lost me there.
;-)
Post by: Sammconn on December 02, 2022, 02:37:02 PM
The main reason is for ease of installation.
It also allows he freeze thaw that my place goes through.
Would have saved the ceiling peice too for this one.
I’ve only found them in double wall however so a bit of tin bashing needed to connect them in.
If you use it a lot the chimney sweep stuff is simple and cheap insurance to eliminate chimney fires.
However, upon looking at outside pics, the location and roof make it less desirable.
Post by: stlaser on December 02, 2022, 04:57:55 PM
https://www.jotul.com/products/wood-stoves/f-500-v3-oslo
Post by: wyorunner on December 02, 2022, 05:43:17 PM
Went to Kalispell this morning with little trailer and picked up this 500# stove. Curt my neighbor helped me unload it up onto my covered front porch. About all we could do to get it up there with appliance donkey and two guys. Going to try and get a castered cart under it to bring it in the house early next week.That should definitely keep your house warm, probably a bit on the hot side at times.
https://www.jotul.com/products/wood-stoves/f-500-v3-oslo
Post by: EL TATE on December 02, 2022, 05:52:57 PM
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Day 2 of our first big snowstorm, they had called 8-14” and I believe we are at 18”+
It keeps coming and was supposed to have quit 2 hours ago already…..
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If you have a little creek nearby and you aren't winter trout fishing I'm not going to speak to you for a while.
Lake creek, about 500 yards out my back door. However, for reasons I won’t delve into very deep on the interwebs I cannot get a mt st license until a couple things in Colorado get finalized. So I refuse to pay out of state fees atm. Sorry
I will concede in that case. Same for me, had to be a full time resident for a set amount of time before i wasn't paying TRIPLE for licensing.
Post by: Nate on December 02, 2022, 07:07:37 PM
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Day 2 of our first big snowstorm, they had called 8-14” and I believe we are at 18”+
It keeps coming and was supposed to have quit 2 hours ago already…..
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If you have a little creek nearby and you aren't winter trout fishing I'm not going to speak to you for a while.
Lake creek, about 500 yards out my back door. However, for reasons I won’t delve into very deep on the interwebs I cannot get a mt st license until a couple things in Colorado get finalized. So I refuse to pay out of state fees atm. Sorry
I will concede in that case. Same for me, had to be a full time resident for a set amount of time before i wasn't paying TRIPLE for licensing.
I just got my lifetime hunting and fishing license along with my lifetime nebraska parks pass (already have the national one). It also came with all the stamps and what not for anything except exotic game.
The cost was free due to my disability status.
Post by: Sammconn on December 02, 2022, 08:15:07 PM
Went to Kalispell this morning with little trailer and picked up this 500# stove. Curt my neighbor helped me unload it up onto my covered front porch. About all we could do to get it up there with appliance donkey and two guys. Going to try and get a castered cart under it to bring it in the house early next week.
https://www.jotul.com/products/wood-stoves/f-500-v3-oslo
Looks nice.
When I replaced ours this summer used a fooor Jack running on scrap laminate.
Worked like a champ.
Post by: stlaser on December 02, 2022, 08:36:24 PM
Went to Kalispell this morning with little trailer and picked up this 500# stove. Curt my neighbor helped me unload it up onto my covered front porch. About all we could do to get it up there with appliance donkey and two guys. Going to try and get a castered cart under it to bring it in the house early next week.That should definitely keep your house warm, probably a bit on the hot side at times.
https://www.jotul.com/products/wood-stoves/f-500-v3-oslo
I can always open the patio door.
Post by: stlaser on December 02, 2022, 08:38:02 PM
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Day 2 of our first big snowstorm, they had called 8-14” and I believe we are at 18”+
It keeps coming and was supposed to have quit 2 hours ago already…..
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If you have a little creek nearby and you aren't winter trout fishing I'm not going to speak to you for a while.
Lake creek, about 500 yards out my back door. However, for reasons I won’t delve into very deep on the interwebs I cannot get a mt st license until a couple things in Colorado get finalized. So I refuse to pay out of state fees atm. Sorry
I will concede in that case. Same for me, had to be a full time resident for a set amount of time before i wasn't paying TRIPLE for licensing.
I just got my lifetime hunting and fishing license along with my lifetime nebraska parks pass (already have the national one). It also came with all the stamps and what not for anything except exotic game.
The cost was free due to my disability status.
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Post by: stlaser on December 02, 2022, 08:39:59 PM
Neighbor has one of these, gunna see if we can break it……Went to Kalispell this morning with little trailer and picked up this 500# stove. Curt my neighbor helped me unload it up onto my covered front porch. About all we could do to get it up there with appliance donkey and two guys. Going to try and get a castered cart under it to bring it in the house early next week.
https://www.jotul.com/products/wood-stoves/f-500-v3-oslo
Looks nice.
When I replaced ours this summer used a fooor Jack running on scrap laminate.
Worked like a champ.
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Post by: stlaser on December 02, 2022, 08:50:50 PM
I run an expansion joint in my permanent installs.
The main reason is for ease of installation.
It also allows he freeze thaw that my place goes through.
Would have saved the ceiling peice too for this one.
I’ve only found them in double wall however so a bit of tin bashing needed to connect them in.
If you use it a lot the chimney sweep stuff is simple and cheap insurance to eliminate chimney fires.
However, upon looking at outside pics, the location and roof make it less desirable.
Copy, yeah 12/12 steel roof, I’d need a harness and tie off over the roof before I’d try that I think.
Post by: rpar86 on December 02, 2022, 10:22:30 PM
Went to Kalispell this morning with little trailer and picked up this 500# stove. Curt my neighbor helped me unload it up onto my covered front porch. About all we could do to get it up there with appliance dolly and two guys. Going to try and get a castered cart under it to bring it in the house early next week.I think my uncle has the same (or very similar) one. Yes, it was a pain to move!
https://www.jotul.com/products/wood-stoves/f-500-v3-oslo
Post by: stlaser on December 03, 2022, 04:51:02 PM
When you’re stuck in a Montana cabin property and the dining room is the best option to rebuild a customers t-case…..
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Post by: stlaser on December 03, 2022, 07:08:13 PM
That would go over like a fart in a diving helmet at my house
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She’d rather have me at the cabin in Montana than spending more time in Colorado.
Post by: Bob Smith on December 03, 2022, 07:23:51 PM
Post by: stlaser on December 03, 2022, 07:35:06 PM
Better than on a sheet of plywood in a snowbank
Or my uninsulated garage…..
Post by: wyorunner on December 03, 2022, 10:26:33 PM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20221203/079958efb0ff3f25fad0a71f1e09a04f.jpg)Surprised to see the manual (or what I think is the manual) sitting there. I’d figured this like axles was back of hand type knowledge for you.
When you’re stuck in a Montana cabin property and the dining room is the best option to rebuild a customers t-case…..
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Good to see your still busy after the move.
Post by: stlaser on December 03, 2022, 11:21:53 PM
Post by: Flyin6 on December 04, 2022, 08:55:52 AM
Now build out your garage like that and just move in!
;-)
Post by: JR on December 04, 2022, 01:22:29 PM
Post by: stlaser on December 04, 2022, 02:40:39 PM
For anyone having not done a rebuild or repair inside the house. Shame on you, comfort is king!
I like to feel my finger tips…..
Just unloaded the last enclosed trailer of two dirt bikes, household stuff and some misc garage items.
Deep freeze is sitting on front porch, think it’s official I’m a Montanan now……
Post by: stlaser on December 04, 2022, 02:43:04 PM
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Post by: Flyin6 on December 04, 2022, 02:56:38 PM
For anyone having not done a rebuild or repair inside the house. Shame on you, comfort is king!OK guilty, a 289 overhaul, but if it happened before you (the reader) were actually born, then it doesn't count. I can invoke the old-guy clause that covers much!
Post by: oklawall on December 05, 2022, 09:06:12 AM
For anyone having not done a rebuild or repair inside the house. Shame on you, comfort is king!Oh I have done it that is why I said it would go over like a fart in a diving helmet. Even with the table being replaced she still reminds me of the scratch I put in it years later. One of many reasons I have an EX wife
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Post by: oklawall on December 05, 2022, 09:07:36 AM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20221204/6532deb8da7e049e3ab4eded0e9b6841.jpg)Do you even need to plug that in until the spring thaw?
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Post by: stlaser on December 05, 2022, 08:42:18 PM
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Neighbors 1000# harbor freight cart for the win, if all goes as planned this will be installed on Weds.
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Post by: Flyin6 on December 05, 2022, 09:22:11 PM
Post by: stlaser on December 05, 2022, 09:49:25 PM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20221204/6532deb8da7e049e3ab4eded0e9b6841.jpg)Do you even need to plug that in until the spring thaw?
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It does not, wife asked yesterday if she could use it. I said why not, she walked out and stuck at least one thing in it. Works for me…..
Post by: JR on December 05, 2022, 11:19:12 PM
Post by: wyorunner on December 06, 2022, 02:08:31 PM
What’s the bear population like at your place? My first thought is them buggers getting into your freezer, but maybe not a concern.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20221204/6532deb8da7e049e3ab4eded0e9b6841.jpg)Do you even need to plug that in until the spring thaw?
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It does not, wife asked yesterday if she could use it. I said why not, she walked out and stuck at least one thing in it. Works for me…..
Post by: stlaser on December 06, 2022, 02:22:34 PM
Post by: wyorunner on December 06, 2022, 03:15:30 PM
Hibernating at this point, however 1 every square mile supposedly.That’s a pretty good sized population
close to throw a rock and hit one type population.
Post by: stlaser on December 06, 2022, 04:29:17 PM
Finalized something else today. I’ll just leave this here below.
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https://www.jcb.com/en-us/products/skid-steer-loader/215
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Post by: JR on December 06, 2022, 09:34:38 PM
Post by: stlaser on December 06, 2022, 10:00:38 PM
Hear those are way easier to get into. Soon?
They are, I contacted four different manufacturers dealers. This dealer was on it, very responsive and wanted the business. One dealer never responded and other two would take a couple days to reply.
So when I went to pickup the stove I stopped to talk to JCB first. After sitting in the cab I was sold. Maintenance is simple as filters are easy access etc. In addition the single boom has a lifetime warranty on it for $300 and has 20% more steel in it that conventional dual arm setups. The visibility is over the top as well. I drove a mid framed tracked unit and it was just too large for my needs having owned one prior. At $5500 to replace tracks I didn’t want that either. The fact I use mine as a forklift more often than not made the side door the only way to go. Add to this that as of January 1st two of the three dealers conveyed to me there was going to an across the board 6% increase on all equipment.
This one is coming in from a dealer down near Bozeman. It was the only small frame wheeled unit in the state. Should see it by weeks end. I signed papers this afternoon and they are bringing me a set of 60” forks along with the 66” wide bucket. Still trying to get a price on toothed bolt in cutting edge for bucket. I’ve also decided to build the new shop myself. The only thing I plan on subcontracting out is gravel & fill hauling along with concrete. The rest I’ll do myself, so the thought process is that the money I save in labor buys the skid steer.
Post by: JR on December 06, 2022, 11:18:33 PM
Does it have the standard bobcat quick attach? I am looking at a linear 12v motor for mine so I don't need to flip the levers by hand. I also have regular forks and it makes a great FL sans the straight lift and side shift. Watch the 60" forks you will kill things past the pallet!
Chains for cold weather?? Tires just slide around (ask me how I know)
Post by: stlaser on December 06, 2022, 11:53:09 PM
Sweet, getting from the side is a game changer. I have to back into mine.
Does it have the standard bobcat quick attach? I am looking at a linear 12v motor for mine so I don't need to flip the levers by hand. I also have regular forks and it makes a great FL sans the straight lift and side shift. Watch the 60" forks you will kill things past the pallet!
Chains for cold weather?? Tires just slide around (ask me how I know)
It came with upgraded hi flow hydraulics, block heater & auto quick attach and it’s standard, yeah levers aren’t any fun. I wanted the 60” because when you load a pallet with two axles on it that are roughly 84” overall you need the extra length to balance the pallet. Chains will be needed for ice, not so much snow. Regardless the tires are better than tracks for that too and being I live in the cold now it will be used for snow removal quite a bit.
Post by: KensAuto on December 07, 2022, 12:18:05 AM
Man, not so sure I can live in those conditions.... But I'm going to try!
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Post by: stlaser on December 07, 2022, 08:15:22 AM
Hate to dwell on the pipe, but if creosote can drip out the seam, can't smoke escape the other way?
Man, not so sure I can live in those conditions.... But I'm going to try!
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Not a chimney expert, however one is due in this afternoon and he’s apparently done installs for 30yrs prior to going out on his own a few years ago. So I’m sure I’ll get an education.
Post by: Bear9350 on December 07, 2022, 08:33:10 AM
Hate to dwell on the pipe, but if creosote can drip out the seam, can't smoke escape the other way?
Man, not so sure I can live in those conditions.... But I'm going to try!
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Not unless there is a block in the chimney. Think of it as the smoke is sucked out from the top of the chimney instead of the smoke getting pushed out the chimney from the bottom.
Post by: Sammconn on December 07, 2022, 02:11:12 PM
Hate to dwell on the pipe, but if creosote can drip out the seam, can't smoke escape the other way?
Man, not so sure I can live in those conditions.... But I'm going to try!
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Not unless there is a block in the chimney. Think of it as the smoke is sucked out from the top of the chimney instead of the smoke getting pushed out the chimney from the bottom.
Chimney effect.
It is not only a phenomonem but is a real thing.
Heat rises and the heat of the smoke and fire simply rushes to the top of the pipe.
Smoke stays in the pipe and creosote returns to the burn box not the pipes and floor.
Post by: stlaser on December 07, 2022, 05:09:45 PM
So 31 year seasoned installer thus far can’t find any major culprit as to why the wood in old stove wasn’t wanting to burn, even tested wood for dryness.
However, this type of air cooled chimney hasn’t been used on wood stoves since the 80’s or 90’s. They still use it on zero clearance fireplaces etc but not wood stoves. So I opted to have it all replaced. Buy once, cry once.
On another note we do need to extend the hearth as even with older smaller stove it wasn’t out far enough to be to American code and Canadian code wants it extending out in front of stove further yet.
Update: culprit found, old chimney cap had a spark arrestor screen in it which was plugged shut. New one doesn’t have that.
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Post by: stlaser on December 07, 2022, 05:29:52 PM
Whomever installed this pushed the ceiling support box thru to above the roof line by a good 1.5” then cut the box at the 4 corners and folded them over then sandwiched them under the roofing material. So to change ceiling support box they are using a sawzall to remove original one as you can’t very well remove roof panels in December.
Post by: EL TATE on December 07, 2022, 06:20:57 PM
Post by: stlaser on December 07, 2022, 06:51:40 PM
Hey Timmy, you and Bubba know how to do chimneys and stuff? nope, but we'll figure it out... jes gotta cut a hole right?
Pretty much my take on this whole deal….
Don’t laugh, but my first shop all 1200 sq ft in Indiana 25 years ago. I built the wood stove (to accept w/o cutting 4’ long 4x’s which came between bunks of steel sheet on every load at my day job) and used black pipe up to a hole I cut in the roof. Used double wall b vent thru the roof flashing. Used that setup for several years with zero issue. Spray foamed that shop and I could run you out of there. Many days it was 80 - 90 degrees in shop in a t-shirt and single digits outside.
Post by: Bob Smith on December 07, 2022, 07:13:33 PM
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Post by: JR on December 07, 2022, 09:39:31 PM
Post by: Bigdave_185 on December 07, 2022, 09:48:59 PM
Does it have any mechanical air movement deal ?
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Post by: stlaser on December 07, 2022, 09:58:27 PM
Fine Looking fire place!
Does it have any mechanical air movement deal ?
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Thanks guys, we have one of those little fans that sit on top of it and spins when it heats up. But that’s it.
Post by: Bob Smith on December 07, 2022, 10:55:43 PM
Being free standing I doubt you will need any mechanical help staying warm. Nice looking stove. If anything a small fan in the corner blowing on the stack.Fine Looking fire place!
Does it have any mechanical air movement deal ?
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Thanks guys, we have one of those little fans that sit on top of it and spins when it heats up. But that’s it.
Post by: KensAuto on December 07, 2022, 11:14:54 PM
After posting about the pipe, I realized the flaw in my thinking. Draft effect, Duh
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Post by: wyorunner on December 08, 2022, 03:53:24 AM
Our little stove we had in GA was a different color but very similar in style. Loved that thing, we ran it hot hot to heat our 2200ish sqft of house, worked like a charm!
Don’t need heat much down here, but I sure do miss sitting by one on a winters night. Good work on signing the check
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Post by: Flyin6 on December 08, 2022, 03:49:12 PM
Post by: stlaser on December 08, 2022, 05:40:09 PM
Very nice place Shawn! Looking forward to the up-coming shop build. What size are you planning? Post-frame or stick built?
Thanks guys
In regards for the big not so big shop and we’ll see on size…
Couple things to consider. First I have 1500 sq ft in Colorado and for all purposes it works. I’m currently building a 12 x 20 addition off my 2 car detached garage. So 240 sq ft there (machine shop only) and I’d like to initially put up a 32 x 48 barn with 16’ walls and 6 / 12 roof pitch. Then along the south side extend a lower roof 12’ x 48’ (essentially lean to) for fifth wheel storage. Down the road I’d like to do same off north side but enclose it.
Now here’s my conundrum. I have a 1600 sq ft house and per the regulations here I can’t have a shop larger than the house or taller. But I can have several ugly looking shops versus one big one. I don’t particularly want several smaller shops but we’ll see what developer says. Some of his rules are dumb, but he’s been lenient on other things. I think he’s reasonable but we’ll see.
I’m currently drawing up exactly what I want and submitting it. I’m also contending with an electrical easement in the area I want the shop. So in addition to installing the shop service I may have to have them reroute the house service. Lots of planning….
Post by: stlaser on December 08, 2022, 05:41:27 PM
That is one of the best-looking wood stoves I believe I have ever seen!
Jotul for the win, dealer forgot a rear heat shield. So I ordered that this morning
Post by: JR on December 08, 2022, 05:56:56 PM
Hmm, several small shops, garage doors, end to end. Once finished, just join em!
Post by: stlaser on December 08, 2022, 06:14:10 PM
Good luck, sure your codes are WAY better than mine.
Hmm, several small shops, garage doors, end to end. Once finished, just join em!
Typical hoa bs…… rules go both ways. I do believe he’ll work with me. If he doesn’t I’ll look for loop holes in his rules. Montana also recently passed legislation stating that you’re grandfathered into the existing rules when you purchased. So he’s stuck with the rules he had and can’t change them. I’ve also asked if he includes meeting minutes and the hoa financials annually. No one apparently has ever asked for them or viewed them. I’m waiting for that email requesting my annual donation.
I’ve played these games before and with bigger fish. I started my career battling the local county planning commission at 25 years old. I won that war btw.
Post by: Bob Smith on December 08, 2022, 07:56:03 PM
Post by: Flyin6 on December 08, 2022, 08:37:39 PM
Careful, they'll label you as some eastern troublemaker. Makes you a couple of points better than a western (CA. troublemaker... ;-)Good luck, sure your codes are WAY better than mine.
Hmm, several small shops, garage doors, end to end. Once finished, just join em!
Typical hoa bs…… rules go both ways. I do believe he’ll work with me. If he doesn’t I’ll look for loop holes in his rules. Montana also recently passed legislation stating that you’re grandfathered into the existing rules when you purchased. So he’s stuck with the rules he had and can’t change them. I’ve also asked if he includes meeting minutes and the hoa financials annually. No one apparently has ever asked for them or viewed them. I’m waiting for that email requesting my annual donation.
I’ve played these games before and with bigger fish. I started my career battling the local county planning commission at 25 years old. I won that war btw.
Post by: stlaser on December 08, 2022, 09:40:42 PM
Post by: Dustoff35 on December 09, 2022, 05:18:10 AM
Perhaps you (or I) can "attach" to the residence, via a breezeway.
When do you plan to start the shop build?
Post by: stlaser on December 09, 2022, 11:11:27 AM
There is usually a work-around. On my Wyoming property, I am limited to a "...single detached building no greater than 30% of the residence..." Yet there are several shops exceeding that rule. When submitting my plans, I will point out those 6 properties, one shop is 120% of the size of the residence, and the owner sits on the approval board.
Perhaps you (or I) can "attach" to the residence, via a breezeway.
When do you plan to start the shop build?
Well, he approved my wainscoting on the current 2 car detached garage and that’s steel and not allowed according to hoa docs. Although he stated it was in alignment with them. He also approved the driveway additions (u shaped driveway) and two culverts as I build drive to new shop area and increase current driveway.
Breezeway or something similar is in plan from home to detached garage.
I’m currently still waiting on slab to be poured for the 12x20 addition off detached 2 car garage. It will be my machine shop. I did this for two reasons. One to keep it clean as a lot of my other work is pretty dirty. Second, to try and get something done this winter so I could focus on main shop next spring and summer. Currently walking thru the process of design on that and just spoke to electric utility yesterday.
I did tell him I’d rather one nice large structure versus several small ones.
Post by: TexasRedNeck on December 09, 2022, 12:19:10 PM
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Post by: EL TATE on December 09, 2022, 02:44:25 PM
Post by: stlaser on December 09, 2022, 03:18:37 PM
As you already know, the Kali trick is to make it against the rules, build out anyway and fine you for non-compliance annually, but you get to keep it. sounds like this guys taking pages from their books.
That’s right, I don’t care for that obviously. Buddy in Colorado had lien placed against his property. I’m more of the I’ll look at the rules and the grey area and request things that aren’t technically not allowed. Or the better one is when their rules cause a potential safety issue.
For instance, one place said we couldn’t have a double gate to our backyard. So I modified the fence to have a removable panel. When the design review dumb***es came onto my property uninvited I was able to school them on why legal terminology is important. Your rule didn’t say I couldn’t have a single gate adjacent to a removable panel…..
Another time I requested my driveway be widened beyond the allowed 18” per side and told them in the request that when my elderly relatives or wheel chair bound friend comes over and gets injured trying to access the home. I’ll send you the bill. Amazingly things got approved outside the scope of the rules. :popcorn:
Post by: stlaser on December 09, 2022, 08:04:26 PM
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Walls were stripped this morning. I laid out the shop area. After measuring for setbacks and hoping not to have to move the electrical line w/ easement for that it appears I can easily fit in a 48 x 48 shop footprint. Only about 1500 sq ft would be enclosed, rest would be under roof but open storage etc. for skid loader and rv.
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Post by: stlaser on December 09, 2022, 08:32:55 PM
So with that said, this is the “style of shop” I want. I’ll change several things about this structure. The center area will be 24 x 48 w/ 16’ sidewalls then the porch area will be as is w/ the exception I’ll raise the lean to roof’s up and remove those side windows up top. The rear lean to will be open sided. Chimney will be removed and I’ll have a single 14’ x 14’ overhead door at this end. I may add a smaller 10’ wide by 8’ door at back and opposite end potentially. The man door I’ll most likely move to the other wall under that front roof. Back lean to area will be gravel only. Albeit this all depends on what developer thinks…..
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Post by: Bob Smith on December 09, 2022, 08:45:08 PM
Post by: stlaser on December 09, 2022, 09:03:52 PM
Hopefully the area is zoned for commercial use and not residential only. Would it help you to include a letter from neighbor when you submit the package to the developer?
So it’s limited business use. As long as I have less than 3 visitors daily I’m gtg. I ship currently 60-70% of my product. On a busy week I might have a dozen people stop by all by appointment only. Add to it I didn’t move here to continue working 6-7 days a week. Goal is 4 tops……
Post by: JR on December 09, 2022, 09:36:09 PM
Post by: Bob Smith on December 09, 2022, 09:56:19 PM
Sounds like it will work. Lots of areas around here do not allow residents to operate a business. Limiting visits to three a day would stop most beauty shop type business operations all right. Majority of yours is off site dealings. Hope it all works out for you, without having to scale back your outbuildings too much.Hopefully the area is zoned for commercial use and not residential only. Would it help you to include a letter from neighbor when you submit the package to the developer?
So it’s limited business use. As long as I have less than 3 visitors daily I’m gtg. I ship currently 60-70% of my product. On a busy week I might have a dozen people stop by all by appointment only. Add to it I didn’t move here to continue working 6-7 days a week. Goal is 4 tops……
Post by: stlaser on December 09, 2022, 09:58:22 PM
Post by: rpar86 on December 09, 2022, 11:12:50 PM
Limiting visits to three a day would stop most beauty shop type business operations all right.I have one of those next door… drives me crazy.
Post by: Flyin6 on December 10, 2022, 09:21:06 AM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20221210/42bc24e45ccdaf4ef8aeb504a325d333.jpg)That door is way too small to drive that loader in/out of. I recommend going to at least a 36 incher! ;-)
So with that said, this is the “style of shop” I want. I’ll change several things about this structure. The center area will be 24 x 48 w/ 16’ sidewalls then the porch area will be as is w/ the exception I’ll raise the lean to roof’s up and remove those side windows up top. The rear lean to will be open sided. Chimney will be removed and I’ll have a single 14’ x 14’ overhead door at this end. I may add a smaller 10’ wide by 8’ door at back and opposite end potentially. The man door I’ll most likely move to the other wall under that front roof. Back lean to area will be gravel only. Albeit this all depends on what developer thinks…..
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That style of the barn is popular in rural areas with horses around here. Animals in the lean-to's while the farmer works from the center aisle. Then there's that nice cozy apartment upstairs for the times you need to put some distance between the other person in the house... ;-)
Post by: stlaser on December 10, 2022, 03:21:41 PM
Limiting visits to three a day would stop most beauty shop type business operations all right.I have one of those next door… drives me crazy.
Beauty shop or annoying neighbor who pounds steel all day / night and disregards hoa rules…..
Post by: stlaser on December 10, 2022, 03:29:57 PM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20221210/42bc24e45ccdaf4ef8aeb504a325d333.jpg)That door is way too small to drive that loader in/out of. I recommend going to at least a 36 incher! ;-)
So with that said, this is the “style of shop” I want. I’ll change several things about this structure. The center area will be 24 x 48 w/ 16’ sidewalls then the porch area will be as is w/ the exception I’ll raise the lean to roof’s up and remove those side windows up top. The rear lean to will be open sided. Chimney will be removed and I’ll have a single 14’ x 14’ overhead door at this end. I may add a smaller 10’ wide by 8’ door at back and opposite end potentially. The man door I’ll most likely move to the other wall under that front roof. Back lean to area will be gravel only. Albeit this all depends on what developer thinks…..
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That style of the barn is popular in rural areas with horses around here. Animals in the lean-to's while the farmer works from the center aisle. Then there's that nice cozy apartment upstairs for the times you need to put some distance between the other person in the house... ;-)
No apartment, have one above the current garage once I finish it. The center portion will be high ceiling for the two lifts.
Post by: Flyin6 on December 10, 2022, 06:48:17 PM
Post by: stlaser on December 11, 2022, 12:35:11 AM
Ya, it should be plenty tall for that!
I had 14’ ceiling in last shop and it was a bit short as my 2 post w/ height extensions were right at ceiling height. New shop has 20’ and although I like it, I do t believe it’s necessary.
Post by: Flyin6 on December 11, 2022, 08:50:29 AM
Post by: stlaser on December 11, 2022, 03:39:46 PM
Snow has been building up on this lower porch roof (been sliding off the steeper 12/12 pitch roofs when we get warmer days, near freezing mark) so with me leaving for another week or so I decided to shovel it off. We received another 1” (apparently 1” equals 8 actual inches NW MT) I would have been able to clean up the driveway had the dealer delivered the skid loader this week as stated. However, that did not happen, excuse was installing a block heater. So it will get scheduled & delivered when I return.
Currently as I’m sitting here cooling off from my snow capades workout writing this the snow on upper roof it sounds like just decided to move downward which I assumed would happen. Just glad I wasn’t up there when it shifted.
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Post by: KensAuto on December 11, 2022, 07:00:17 PM
Kinda want a about 1200 with a livable loft.
Good thing the new HOA prez didn't read the rules when he built a small 2 story cabin... Bottom floor is the garage.
He told me to do whatever I wanted.
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Post by: stlaser on December 11, 2022, 08:39:10 PM
Our Idaho hoa has a 1500sf minimum, 2000 if 2 levels. I didn't want that big.
Kinda want a about 1200 with a livable loft.
Good thing the new HOA prez didn't read the rules when he built a small 2 story cabin... Bottom floor is the garage.
He told me to do whatever I wanted.
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Remind me again, are you keeping the place down south too? I know you’ve mentioned selling the business. Wondering g your time frame and actual plans?
Post by: Bob Smith on December 11, 2022, 10:12:03 PM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20221211/5d34960956fb935153f307658336a996.jpg)Shawn, you should look into snow guards for the upper roof and doorways. They kind of hold the snow where it is but let the snow melt run off. If the builder got plans approved before building there should be enough snow load built into the roof. I do know you don’t want the snow to slide off the roof while someone is under it.
Snow has been building up on this lower porch roof (been sliding off the steeper 12/12 pitch roofs when we get warmer days, near freezing mark) so with me leaving for another week or so I decided to shovel it off. We received another 1” (apparently 1” equals 8 actual inches NW MT) I would have been able to clean up the driveway had the dealer delivered the skid loader this week as stated. However, that did not happen, excuse was installing a block heater. So it will get scheduled & delivered when I return.
Currently as I’m sitting here cooling off from my snow capades workout writing this the snow on upper roof it sounds like just decided to move downward which I assumed would happen. Just glad I wasn’t up there when it shifted.
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A few years ago, a friend in Powell county MT built a new home and did not need a building permit or inspections so don’t know if your place was inspected or not.
Post by: stlaser on December 11, 2022, 10:31:28 PM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20221211/5d34960956fb935153f307658336a996.jpg)Shawn, you should look into snow guards for the upper roof and doorways. They kind of hold the snow where it is but let the snow melt run off. If the builder got plans approved before building there should be enough snow load built into the roof. I do know you don’t want the snow to slide off the roof while someone is under it.
Snow has been building up on this lower porch roof (been sliding off the steeper 12/12 pitch roofs when we get warmer days, near freezing mark) so with me leaving for another week or so I decided to shovel it off. We received another 1” (apparently 1” equals 8 actual inches NW MT) I would have been able to clean up the driveway had the dealer delivered the skid loader this week as stated. However, that did not happen, excuse was installing a block heater. So it will get scheduled & delivered when I return.
Currently as I’m sitting here cooling off from my snow capades workout writing this the snow on upper roof it sounds like just decided to move downward which I assumed would happen. Just glad I wasn’t up there when it shifted.
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A few years ago, a friend in Powell county MT built a new home and did not need a building permit or inspections so don’t know if your place was inspected or not.
No inspections here other than septic and final electric. However, this is a meadowlark cabin built by the local Amish about 20 miles from my place. I have no doubt it’s snow load rated or more by the design. With that said, I thought it a good idea to try and get some of it off. Once the skid arrives I’m going to relocate that snow to the west side of the cabin to help once it does start melting in a few months.
Post by: KensAuto on December 12, 2022, 10:34:08 PM
Need to sell my rental, keep current house for winter months. That would be a good start, but not enough.Our Idaho hoa has a 1500sf minimum, 2000 if 2 levels. I didn't want that big.
Kinda want a about 1200 with a livable loft.
Good thing the new HOA prez didn't read the rules when he built a small 2 story cabin... Bottom floor is the garage.
He told me to do whatever I wanted.
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Remind me again, are you keeping the place down south too? I know you’ve mentioned selling the business. Wondering g your time frame and actual plans?
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Post by: stlaser on December 19, 2022, 07:33:38 PM
So it was supposed to be delivered Friday before last. At the time I was told the local dealer in Kalispell had received it from the Belgrade dealer Thursday morning the 8th but they didn’t have time to install a simple block heater due to a larger job in front of mine. Fast forward last Friday the 16th and after several emails and calls to set up the delivery for today (I was in Colorado all last week) I was informed they broke a freeze plug and were waiting on the replacement. If you know anything about block heaters that doesn’t jive. So this morning salesman calls and states they haven’t received freight in 3 days.
This is when my interrogation started. First, it’s possible they broke the block heater. As those install in a freeze plug typically. Second, per the tracking number where is the replacement part. I then tell him to get with service and call me back. He puts her on the phone. So they pulled a freeze plug originally then didn’t like where the block heater would be positioned. So they put it in another freeze plug spot they liked better. Then ordered the incorrect freeze plug in. So then on a second order which hasn’t arrived bought the correct freeze plug from somewhere in the Midwest. Last thing I’m told is part could arrive Monday thru Weds. My money is on Friday at this point. Oh and another 8-11” of snow due tomorrow. Lovely…..
Did get the heat shield in for wood stove while I was out. I installed that yesterday and did the final heat cycle fire for break in today. Cooling as I speak, once it gets to room temp again I’m
Gtg. Dug my way to wood shed and filled wood rack today. Two or three kiddos drive up Thursday.
Post by: wyorunner on December 19, 2022, 08:19:05 PM
Pretty sure I bought a skid steer over two weeks ago…. :rolleyes:Sorry to hear about you getting the frozen plug shaft by the JCB dealer. You’d think they could simply source one from napa, carquest, orilleys, or any other parts store. Must be some fancy 25.4mm freeze plug that only JCB makes.
So it was supposed to be delivered Friday before last. At the time I was told the local dealer in Kalispell had received it from the Belgrade dealer Thursday morning the 8th but they didn’t have time to install a simple block heater due to a larger job in front of mine. Fast forward last Friday the 16th and after several emails and calls to set up the delivery for today (I was in Colorado all last week) I was informed they broke a freeze plug and were waiting on the replacement. If you know anything about block heaters that doesn’t jive. So this morning salesman calls and states they haven’t received freight in 3 days.
This is when my interrogation started. First, it’s possible they broke the block heater. As those install in a freeze plug typically. Second, per the tracking number where is the replacement part. I then tell him to get with service and call me back. He puts her on the phone. So they pulled a freeze plug originally then didn’t like where the block heater would be positioned. So they put it in another freeze plug spot they liked better. Then ordered the incorrect freeze plug in. So then on a second order which hasn’t arrived bought the correct freeze plug from somewhere in the Midwest. Last thing I’m told is part could arrive Monday thru Weds. My money is on Friday at this point. Oh and another 8-11” of snow due tomorrow. Lovely…..
Did get the heat shield in for wood stove while I was out. I installed that yesterday and did the final heat cycle fire for break in today. Cooling as I speak, once it gets to room temp again I’m
Gtg. Dug my way to wood shed and filled wood rack today. Two or three kiddos drive up Thursday.
Post by: stlaser on December 19, 2022, 08:26:31 PM
Post by: Bob Smith on December 19, 2022, 11:00:37 PM
[/size]That is a sentence from your first post in this thread. How is that new addition coming along anyway?
Post by: stlaser on December 19, 2022, 11:15:43 PM
As far as addition they poured slab last week and it’s covered. I figured since the cold snap and to keep “doing something” I ordered 15 bundles of R21 from sandpoint hd today. I’m going to insulate the lower portion of the 2 car garage. Then I can at least warm that up to a decent temp and work out of it / take breaks as I frame up the addition. Will grab that once snow subsides in a day or so.
Post by: stlaser on December 20, 2022, 02:38:23 PM
Well, today was first day we could fully use the new stove. It’s a tremendous upgrade over the old unit. It’s easy to load, light & simple to control. Plus it puts out a fair amount of heat. This cold snap will be a great test I think. The pup agrees…..
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Post by: Bob Smith on December 20, 2022, 07:48:06 PM
Post by: stlaser on December 20, 2022, 09:45:34 PM
What a nice photo, warm and welcoming.
Thank you, think we received another 14” of snow today.
Post by: stlaser on December 22, 2022, 11:47:52 PM
Youngest daughter had borrowed our air mattress. Apparently she brought it back with a 4” hole in it. Neighbor saved the day as they had one we could borrow for the week.
Post by: Bob Smith on December 23, 2022, 02:26:40 AM
Post by: Bigdave_185 on December 23, 2022, 08:06:08 AM
Best of luck with finding and repairing
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Post by: stlaser on December 23, 2022, 08:41:02 AM
Post by: Sammconn on December 23, 2022, 09:03:49 AM
Glad you’ve managed to band aid.
Once everyone and everything is sorted you’ll have a great Christmas at the new home.
Post by: stlaser on December 23, 2022, 09:22:23 AM
I’d recon you’re blocked/burried in snow and ice on the roof.
Glad you’ve managed to band aid.
Once everyone and everything is sorted you’ll have a great Christmas at the new home.
Yeah, my guess too. Looking at pics I saved from real estate ad that roof vent isn’t very tall. Do I may need to extend it a bit this coming year. It’s supposed to be in 40’s this coming week so should fix itself if that’s the issue.
Post by: stlaser on December 23, 2022, 11:43:46 AM
Post by: stlaser on December 23, 2022, 12:18:20 PM
“The design is close to, but not over the limits on overall height and square footage. So as long as the final design and build don't change you have approval for the shop.”
To me that says I can’t reject it but you’re pushing the limits! :tongue:
Post by: stlaser on December 23, 2022, 12:23:18 PM
Submitted site plan and engineering application along with $750 to local electric utility 6-8months out and $5200 plus like $15 a foot to bring power in. Luckily it’s only 65’ roughly.
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Basic shop plans submitted to HOA along with copy of electrical site plan. One nice thing is he doesn’t get hung up on architectural detailed prints.
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Post by: stlaser on December 23, 2022, 05:43:39 PM
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Go cart showed up today and I moved a lot of piled up snow downhill for the warm up that will be coming this week.
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Post by: JR on December 23, 2022, 06:16:06 PM
Post by: stlaser on December 23, 2022, 06:59:36 PM
Nice toy, is that 2ft there on the roof?
Possibly on lower porch roof, I had shoveled lower portion off before last trip south. Directly after I shoveled it upper slid down on it. I’m planning to get up there tomorrow and shovel porch roof off again and then move that snow down hill b4 the coming warm up next week.
Post by: wyorunner on December 23, 2022, 07:03:24 PM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20221223/91795c2c41370c24c6542eb65cec1abe.jpg)That’s a cool little toy. Did it come with a long enough extension cord to clean the driveway
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Go cart showed up today and I moved a lot of piled up snow downhill for the warm up that will be coming this week.
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Post by: stlaser on December 23, 2022, 07:19:33 PM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20221223/91795c2c41370c24c6542eb65cec1abe.jpg)That’s a cool little toy. Did it come with a long enough extension cord to clean the driveway
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Go cart showed up today and I moved a lot of piled up snow downhill for the warm up that will be coming this week.
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EV duh….. lol
That cord going to the block heater was why this didn’t get delivered two weeks ago. They had agreed to install a block heater. So they pulled a freeze plug then didn’t like how the heater sat in that spot. So they ordered in a replacement freeze plug after moving the heater to a second spot. Only that first freeze plug was incorrect size. So then they ordered in the correct size from somewhere in the Midwest that was pummeled last week with a major snow storm.
Post by: Bigdave_185 on December 23, 2022, 10:35:02 PM
Love the side door entrance on that skid. Keep you from getting stuck when the bucket is up. Of course if you tip it on the side?
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Post by: stlaser on December 23, 2022, 11:02:27 PM
Post by: wyorunner on December 23, 2022, 11:22:17 PM
Yea I knew it was the delivery delay-er. I just laugh at the thought of an EV tool like that, like it’s a plug in lawnmower of old(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20221223/91795c2c41370c24c6542eb65cec1abe.jpg)That’s a cool little toy. Did it come with a long enough extension cord to clean the driveway
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Go cart showed up today and I moved a lot of piled up snow downhill for the warm up that will be coming this week.
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EV duh….. lol
That cord going to the block heater was why this didn’t get delivered two weeks ago. They had agreed to install a block heater. So they pulled a freeze plug then didn’t like how the heater sat in that spot. So they ordered in a replacement freeze plug after moving the heater to a second spot. Only that first freeze plug was incorrect size. So then they ordered in the correct size from somewhere in the Midwest that was pummeled last week with a major snow storm.
. I suppose though, there are days where it will be a saving grace to have the block heater.
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Post by: Flyin6 on December 25, 2022, 01:56:54 PM
Front glass is escape as well. In the long term, it will be used more as a forklift than anything. So as I’m getting older the idea of not crawling over or under arms was extremely important. Add in the fact the driver visibility is exceptional compared with a standard skid due to only one arm and offset cab. No rear cross beam holding two arms together either.Nice toy!
I can come right in on this point. Sometimes when I have something lifted I find it necessary to crawl out of the cab...Right under that bucket...and load
I comfort myself in knowing should the hydraulics give out right then, I won't feel anything in a few seconds!
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Post by: TexasRedNeck on December 25, 2022, 09:48:15 PM
Dug my way out to wood shed this morning to look up and find the sewer vent issue. Yes, it’s a 2.5” pipe so it is code.What am I looking at there Shawn? Is that ice and snow blocking the opening?
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Post by: stlaser on December 25, 2022, 10:13:21 PM
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Marked 10 large trees I need to drop for the new shop.
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Post by: stlaser on December 26, 2022, 05:55:15 PM
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Post by: TexasRedNeck on December 27, 2022, 08:36:42 AM
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Oatey-Sure-Vent-1-1-2-in-PVC-Air-Admittance-Valve-with-20-DFU-Branch-and-8-DFU-Stack-39230/205395535?source=shoppingads&locale=en-US&&mtc=SHOPPING-CM-CML-GGL-D26P-026_001_PIPE_FITTING-NA-NA-NA-SMART-2998850-NA-NA-NA-NBR-NA-NA-NEW-PL3_Live&cm_mmc=SHOPPING-CM-CML-GGL-D26P-026_001_PIPE_FITTING-NA-NA-NA-SMART-2998850-NA-NA-NA-NBR-NA-NA-NEW-PL3_Live-71700000094213694-58700007814434200-92700071019453829&gbraid=0AAAAADq61UcDgeU-fAunYoZQKx-ytaoFR&gbraid=0AAAAADq61UcDgeU-fAunYoZQKx-ytaoFR&gclid=CjwKCAiAzKqdBhAnEiwAePEjkj62zn3t5ktWjYouGzCgCFwjqNFZrNWsmbu--3ratiYDNQpiRptKuBoCY20QAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds
My cabin uses these instead of vents. They are essentially a one way valve that allows are in to prevent hydraulic lock in the drains and are all inside under the roof so no protrusions in the roof and no vents to freeze or clog.
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Post by: stlaser on December 27, 2022, 09:12:15 PM
Post by: stlaser on December 27, 2022, 09:22:31 PM
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So I’ve been holding this one close to the vest for a couple days. Saturday I had about three hours on machine and see a bolt laying on the ground as I’m running machine. Stop, get out and inspect to find this bolt, the main pin on the arm loose and this big flat washer that can potentially go in one of two places on the ground. So I parked it and sent the dealer an email.
Fast forward to today the first day they were open and they send a mechanic over. He fixes and is gone before I got back from Idaho with 15 packs of garage insulation and a new toothed digging bucket for it.
So I get home, warm it up and plan to clean slush up in the driveway. Less than 5 mins into running it I get a error code. Also noticed the hydraulics were a bit low but no apparent leak.
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Then come in and send another email. Same technician due out in morning. Apparently when that pin comes loos it can pull on a wiring connector down low and throw a code. I now have machine sitting in shop with clean floor to see if we have any leaks. It’s plausible a hose could have been knicked etc as well and cause it to be low on fluid. The pin bolt had zero locktite on the threads for reference. Not a dealer issue but something that was overlooked in manufacturing I’m sure.
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Post by: TexasRedNeck on December 27, 2022, 09:51:16 PM
Charles, I’m familiar and have used those. Last house had one under sink in island. Be careful though and only use high quality ones. In fact I’m not sure this cabin doesn’t have a leaking one which may be part of the issue if it’s in a wall where I can’t see it……I hope not in the wall. That would be very poor building quality. Usually they are either under the sink or up in the attic. You might be able to just cut the pipe in the attic and install one and then patch the roof.
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Post by: stlaser on December 27, 2022, 10:11:55 PM
Charles, I’m familiar and have used those. Last house had one under sink in island. Be careful though and only use high quality ones. In fact I’m not sure this cabin doesn’t have a leaking one which may be part of the issue if it’s in a wall where I can’t see it……I hope not in the wall. That would be very poor building quality. Usually they are either under the sink or up in the attic. You might be able to just cut the pipe in the attic and install one and then patch the roof.
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Agreed, it may be behind the vanity (it’s not a standard vanity cabinet, hard to explain but it could be behind it adjacent to outside log wall) in the downstairs bath. Need to ask builder/developer, he was no home builder…. Between my house and neighbors he’s done several frankly dumb things when building these to cut corners. More so on neighbors place, but several things on my place I’ve fixed and or am fixing. No attic, log cabin & less we forget it’s rural MT. I think many of them migrated here from the Tuck possibly?????
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Post by: Flyin6 on December 28, 2022, 10:22:17 AM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20221228/b45482f41bfff0154a60d815c653140c.jpg)Not uncommon. On nearly every machine I have purchased and run, some of the hydraulic lines come loose early on. They're just letting you know they expect some attention. Pind coming out and bushings loosening up? Ya, that too!
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So I’ve been holding this one close to the vest for a couple days. Saturday I had about three hours on machine and see a bolt laying on the ground as I’m running machine. Stop, get out and inspect to find this bolt, the main pin on the arm loose and this big flat washer that can potentially go in one of two places on the ground. So I parked it and sent the dealer an email.
Fast forward to today the first day they were open and they send a mechanic over. He fixes and is gone before I got back from Idaho with 15 packs of garage insulation and a new toothed digging bucket for it.
So I get home, warm it up and plan to clean slush up in the driveway. Less than 5 mins into running it I get a error code. Also noticed the hydraulics were a bit low but no apparent leak.
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Then come in and send another email. Same technician due out in morning. Apparently when that pin comes loos it can pull on a wiring connector down low and throw a code. I now have machine sitting in shop with clean floor to see if we have any leaks. It’s plausible a hose could have been knicked etc as well and cause it to be low on fluid. The pin bolt had zero locktite on the threads for reference. Not a dealer issue but something that was overlooked in manufacturing I’m sure.
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Welcome to heavy equipment (Although I know you have owned this stuff before!)
Post by: stlaser on December 28, 2022, 03:57:29 PM
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Started insulating the ceiling in the detached garage. After a little more than a couple bundles installed and one run across the ceiling my arms and shoulders were shot. I finished up on some walls. One pack shy of a bunk installed, two more bunks to go thru yet. Back at it in the AM.
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Post by: stlaser on December 28, 2022, 10:14:02 PM
Itchy?
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Surprising not really, of course it’s cold so I had sweatshirt on and since I’m fairly allergic to inhaling it I wore an n95 all day and only slightly weazy this evening but not bad all in all.
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So concrete guys came out this morning and cut slab. They brought out the thawzall, runs hot water thru pipes under the concrete mats thawing the ground. They can then pour the concrete or in this case a 4’ wide sidewalk from house porch over past stairs going to second story above garage and then the new machine shop. There is enough room between the house and garage I can unload the lathe and mill onto roller carts and then get them into the permanent home in the machine shop.
We then discussed installing culvert east side of shop as he will have extra fill that needs to go somewhere and we might as well use the extra to install the culvert and start the driveway towards new shop. The conversation then went to the marked trees. For less than I can rent a mini he is cutting the trees, de-limbing them and stacking 16’ logs up for future use. He will then dig all the stumps. So I agreed along with him dropping several other trees that are too close to the cabin currently.
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Post by: Flyin6 on December 31, 2022, 10:35:26 AM
Making it your family's home!
Post by: stlaser on December 31, 2022, 12:05:28 PM
Nice and steady progress S
Making it your family's home!
Thanks, gotta keep pushing forward. I want my stuff up here….
Electrical for new shop is 6-8 months out atm. They did get engineering fee and I’m on the schedule though in about ten weeks for an in person meetup/site review.
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Post by: stlaser on December 31, 2022, 02:14:13 PM
Your moving way better than I am.
Get after it, time is not our friend I’m afraid…..
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Post by: Bob Smith on December 31, 2022, 03:02:30 PM
Nice and steady progress S
Making it your family's home!
Thanks, gotta keep pushing forward. I want my stuff up here….
Electrical for new shop is 6-8 months out atm. They did get engineering fee and I’m on the schedule though in about ten weeks for an in person meetup/site review.
It wasn’t the supplier of electric that slowed the progress for me as much as shortages of parts to set it up. Blame the COVID game.
Post by: stlaser on December 31, 2022, 07:19:03 PM
2/3rds ceiling done now & a good 1/3rd of walls insulated. Got a good routine down for hanging ceiling by myself and it went about twice as quick today.
I’ve decided I’m going to put osb up on the walls and ceiling and just paint it. Should be able to do that for under $1k currently.
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Post by: stlaser on December 31, 2022, 07:23:41 PM
Nice and steady progress S
Making it your family's home!
Thanks, gotta keep pushing forward. I want my stuff up here….
Electrical for new shop is 6-8 months out atm. They did get engineering fee and I’m on the schedule though in about ten weeks for an in person meetup/site review.
It wasn’t the supplier of electric that slowed the progress for me as much as shortages of parts to set it up. Blame the COVID game.
Copy, we’ll see what they say in ten weeks at the meeting.
Post by: stlaser on January 01, 2023, 07:14:26 PM
I ordered 68 sheets of 7/16 osb at $11.25 a sheet (68 gave me a $1.25 per sheet bulk discount) from HD in Kalispell. At 44# a sheet that pretty well loads out my 3500# trailer. Heading there and Costco run tomorrow with the wife unit. Going to grab a few other things while in town. My shoulders and arms are beat….
Post by: Bigdave_185 on January 01, 2023, 07:18:13 PM
Finished insulating the ceiling today. No pics sorry, I had a couple Miller lites calling my name. I have 4 bundles left and I estimate I need about a bundle and a half ish to finish what’s left of the walls.How far is the wife units trip in to work? How she liking the new digs
I ordered 68 sheets of 7/16 osb at $11.25 a sheet (68 gave me a $1.25 per sheet bulk discount) from HD in Kalispell. At 44# a sheet that pretty well loads out my 3500# trailer. Heading there and Costco run tomorrow with the wife unit. Going to grab a few other things while in town. My shoulders and arms are beat….
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Picked up the osb today and the crew came along…..
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Post by: Bigdave_185 on January 02, 2023, 09:02:40 PM
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Post by: stlaser on January 02, 2023, 09:55:47 PM
How many tons lol
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Fudge over 1.5, had they given me the correct amount it would have been right at 1.5. I drove back 1.5 hours and stopped to get fuel. As I’m waiting it dawned on me I never counted the stack. So I did and they gave me 5 extra at 44# each so 73 total versus 68, couple hundred extra pounds.
3500# axle and trailer weighs 675# roughly so not too bad. I did max out the air on the tires before I left this morning and they were a little warm on way back even in 30 degree temps but bearings stayed cool.
Kaufman 17k tilt deck trailer is supposed to get picked up next week.
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Post by: stlaser on January 02, 2023, 10:31:04 PM
Wish my wife was on board with my plans. She was at first but boy have things changed.
Sorry JR, 20 years for us this last October. 2022 was a tough year in this marriage. Granted there have been other tough years too. I’m just praying 2023 is better.
Wife unit is getting beehives, places order early February. I know nothing of
’s but she’s researching it and says it’s science based (her court) so we’ll see…..
Post by: stlaser on January 02, 2023, 10:41:31 PM
Good progress Shawn. Happy the wife unit’s work is better than the last one.
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Yup, her boss the CEO (most likely best boss she has ever had it seems) is well seasoned and this in his words is in his retirement gig. He took this role over a regional ceo job he was offered about 8 months prior to my wife being hired. Originally from MT, former army, trained in jiujitsu and is a smart ass which I’ve witnessed first hand. Does not buy into anything woke and seems to call an ace an ace and a spade a spade. Proudly drives a Jeep yj even, yeah that one bothered me a bit but whatever to each their own…..
Post by: Flyin6 on January 02, 2023, 11:40:30 PM
;-)
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Insulation 99.9% done, need to finish framing out window headers and add a bit above each then spray foam around windows and call it a day. Next up is hanging a small electric 240v garage heater and then osb once I get back from my trip. The insulation makes it night and day difference to work in.
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It’s served the purpose of keeping holes out but wish it were all OSB. Make hanging small things better than falling out of the drywall…
I primed and painted white with one of the airless sprayers.
Was a white cloud but very fast and done.
Coming along very well.
Post by: stlaser on January 18, 2023, 05:35:57 PM
12 trees dropped and stumps removed today
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Post by: Flyin6 on January 18, 2023, 07:22:22 PM
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12 trees dropped and stumps removed today
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Post by: stlaser on January 19, 2023, 10:16:21 AM
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12 trees dropped and stumps removed today
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Thanks, for the record I’m signing the check on that. They had excavator on site still and a professional logger on his crew. I couldn’t rent the machine for what they charged for the day. I am today delimbing and bucking the 6 trees they dropped near the cabin. Ground is unthawed here currently and I didn’t want machine tearing anything up. I’ll grab the logs later with skid steer once ground freezes over again. I may pick up a sawmill in a year or so and build a couple structures from the logs, one being an open air carport. Wife doesn’t like parking in garage, must be an Amish thing…. :popcorn:
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I have about ten more logs to add to the piles yet. They’re around back of house and trying not to dig up property around the cabin. May have to wait for another freeze.
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Ended up being the dummy on the ends of these two sticks today. Engineer from utility came out yesterday. He proposed building a pedestal near the current transformer to hold a new 400 amp meter base and then run two 200 amp circuits. They will give me the cable going to cabin and release their 20’ easement over that cable to the cabin. They will then run new wire from transformer to pedestal and I’ll need to run new wire to new shop. Best part is no 6-8 month lead time. This is such a small job they can do with a weeks notice once I open up tench from transformer to pedestal and have pedestal ready to hook into. I’ll also be able to set a genset out far away from my cabin in the woods and power both the shop and home from one unit.
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Sidewalk from cabin to machine shop
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Culvert going in for new driveway to the big shop.
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Post by: JR on January 25, 2023, 11:22:40 PM
Post by: Bigdave_185 on January 25, 2023, 11:53:45 PM
Thats a fair sized Exc, you rented it?He said it was the foundation company’s He had them pull all the trees down while it was there.
I think that’s about a 150 series. We have a rubber trac version that is super handy
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Post by: stlaser on January 26, 2023, 12:10:16 AM
Thats a fair sized Exc, you rented it?He said it was the foundation company’s He had them pull all the trees down while it was there.
I think that’s about a 150 series. We have a rubber trac version that is super handy
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Yup, it’s concrete contractors ex. 34,500# unit he has two of them with around 500 hours on them. We’re going around about large shop foundation. Plus bringing in quite a bit of fill. Cost is more than I like and he’s quoted it a couple different ways. Meeting him again in the morning. We’ll see, it needs done just trying to navigate the best route and not kill my bank account completely.
Post by: TexasRedNeck on January 26, 2023, 06:20:23 AM
Great progress. Love new concrete.
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Post by: stlaser on January 26, 2023, 12:27:43 PM
Shawn, that pic of the machine room foundation looks a little out of scale to my eyes. Probably the angle of the pic. What are the dimensions again?
Great progress. Love new concrete.
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That’s 12 x 20
, I was limited by the ditch and the propane tank. But I needed a seperate shop for the mill / lathe and a hobby I enjoy. Basically a clean area, the larger shop will be for daily work that is a dirtier process.
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Built the pedestal today, it’s 6’ wide and roughly 5’ tall. The plan is to use this to mount gen set transfer switch on in the future. I’ll pour a pad behind it for generator and place two other posts on opposite side then build a roof over generator. Currently we’re setting it up with a 400 amp meter base.
It should withstand hurricane force winds….. 8’ 6x6 posts sunk 36” deep in concrete w/ 2x12’s attached with 4” timber lock screws. Per the utility “posts must be 6x6 treated if wood, if using steel posts we have zero specs on the steel just make sure it’s in concrete”…….. smh
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60 ton of pit run fill to get culvert in and drive towards new shop foundation.
I met w/ contractor today. We came to an agreement on foundation design and a negotiated price. He’s going to put in a legit house foundation same as other shop, footer and walls. This ground isn’t very stable so after looking at all options and costs to me it seemed like the best route. It also keeps his guys in work and I told him I’m flexible on time to complete over next couple months.
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Post by: JR on January 26, 2023, 08:57:34 PM
SO you closed up GLO and starting back up there right? GLO site is still up, something new?
Post by: Bob Smith on January 26, 2023, 09:04:11 PM
Post by: stlaser on January 26, 2023, 10:03:06 PM
Slow down, your making me look bad!!
SO you closed up GLO and starting back up there right? GLO site is still up, something new?
The only thing I’m not doing is building / rebuilding axles currently. Just finishing up some loose ends. I am still selling parts and seem to be bothering Tate regularly. Difference between you and I JR is time is money for me in that I’m only spending it and not making my full potential. So let’s get it done…..
Concrete guys aren’t real busy in the winter so as it is he’s working with me on price to get the work and I’m flexible on time frame with him so he’s using me as fill in.
Post by: stlaser on January 26, 2023, 10:04:16 PM
Things are really taking shape around there. You must be breaking HOA rules but if no one cares get it done.
Zero hoa rules broken thus far by me. I am taking notes on rules he has decided to disregard so when he complains about something I have ammo.
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What do you do when a cold snap is blowing in and it’s just nasty cold and raining? I personally take a 2 hour drive one way to pick up a grapple bucket new in the shipping crate. Not to mention stored indoors for 40 cents on the dollar….. score!
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Post by: Bob Smith on January 27, 2023, 09:27:46 PM
Post by: stlaser on January 27, 2023, 10:33:43 PM
While in Idaho I stopped at HD and bought three 48” wide x 24” tall windows for the machine shop. I need to go thru framing material quote this weekend and figure out where I’m purchasing that material next week.
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What do you do when a cold snap is blowing in and it’s just nasty cold and raining? I personally take a 2 hour drive one way to pick up a grapple bucket new in the shipping crate. Not to mention stored indoors for 40 cents on the dollar….. score!
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Blue Diamond, low flow?
I have one like that
and when closing the grapple, it is almost like a guillotine. Maybe you can adjust your hydraulics. I have considered placing a flow restrictor in line to those cylinders.
I have closed mine on a 10" flat stone and chopped off a piece by accident.
Test it first
Post by: stlaser on January 28, 2023, 10:24:04 AM
I’d been trying to buy one of these for $2k used for awhile here semi locally then this one popped up for a steal.
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Post by: stlaser on January 28, 2023, 02:48:15 PM
I can't believe he pryed .40c on the dollar from your hands, tbh. ...Thought 20 was your highpoint.
;)
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.20c is dealing with Ken price only……
You know, questionable source / supplier type pricing….. :popcorn:
Post by: JR on January 30, 2023, 12:41:22 PM
Mine works great on roadways, better than the smooth bucket most of the time.
Post by: stlaser on January 30, 2023, 04:46:16 PM
I figure if I need an open bottom I have a torch!
I ordered the two quick connect fittings, about $150 shipped to my door.
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Post by: Flyin6 on February 17, 2023, 12:27:32 PM
S, that's straight-up good work.
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Post by: stlaser on February 17, 2023, 07:51:17 PM
Blocking!
S, that's straight-up good work.
Thanks, was spitting snow all day today but beat out the heavy snow by a couple hours. Supposed to get a cold snap for a couple days next week too.
Post by: stlaser on February 18, 2023, 07:02:57 PM
This worked out well as I had agreed to buy this new auger w/ 14” bit for $1200 from a guy over in CDA. In addition we needed to do a winco / Costco run which we complete once every 8 weeks or so to stock up on things.
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Post by: stlaser on February 24, 2023, 10:35:17 PM
Progress!
Thanks, been cold here last 3 days so no outside work. I did brace inside the old garage under the main beam for machine shop.
Then I worked on bills, taxes, a website update, concrete wall layout for the big shop (door locations, monolithic footer area, increased slab thickness in 3 spots and plumbing rough in along with ufer ground location). I then ordered trusses, electrical permit and a decent sized dump trailer. Made a deal to sell enclosed trailer next week too.
Tomorrow is back to framing eves and getting ready to sheet roof of machine shop.
Post by: Bob Smith on February 25, 2023, 12:15:38 PM
Post by: stlaser on February 25, 2023, 02:45:43 PM
Shawn at some point you need to stop and just enjoy the new place and all the things you have already done to make it yours and fit your needs.
I agree, it’s scheduled. Right after I get all my tools relocated from Colorado shop to Montana and that place in Colorado sold. Then I can start making money again versus just spending it. :wink:
All jokes aside it’s cold and nasty here so my time is best spent doing these things right now. I did go wolf hunting a couple weeks ago. Got skunked and managed to bury a Toyota tundra but it was a good day in the woods.
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Post by: Flyin6 on February 26, 2023, 10:07:38 AM
If like most of us, this is enjoyment!^^^^ My thoughts exactly
Post by: stlaser on February 26, 2023, 12:37:55 PM
I’m getting my ducks in a row and consulting a lawyer. We have covenants here where I live. The realty is I think I’m the only one whom is being held to them or better stated current homeowners are held to what the developer believes is ok, even if it’s not in the rules or conflicts with said rules. I’ve found several instances where the developer disregarded his own rules if it benefits his wallet. He did this on my property where he blatantly broke the rules when he built my cabin. Yet, when I went to get approval for my shop he is making me adhere to the letter of the rules. Now he’s asking for leniency on another matter in which he planned poorly.
With that said I’m ok with an hoa and rules but everyone needs to follow them. I don’t like dictators or in this case bullies. The more I interact with the developer and things he’s done the less I like him. Frankly, I think he’s a bit of a snake and not very intelligent in the way he’s approached a couple things.
I personally have a background in property development as my wife and I owned a company that did just that in Indiana for a period of time. In fact we still own several building lots there. So more of a holding company at this point. I’m not impressed, not familiar with Montana property rights and at this point spending money to get more experience.
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Nevertheless, you have gotten quite a bit done.
Thanks, they’re setting walls forms now on the big shop. Trying to get it ready to pour walls Friday, we shall see.
Post by: Flyin6 on March 01, 2023, 10:24:04 AM
Pour walls?Nevertheless, you have gotten quite a bit done.
Thanks, they’re setting walls forms now on the big shop. Trying to get it ready to pour walls Friday, we shall see.
Knee walls like I see on the smaller addition?
Is that a Montana thing?
Post by: stlaser on March 01, 2023, 10:55:44 AM
Pour walls?Nevertheless, you have gotten quite a bit done.
Thanks, they’re setting walls forms now on the big shop. Trying to get it ready to pour walls Friday, we shall see.
Knee walls like I see on the smaller addition?
Is that a Montana thing?
Yup, just like a house foundation. It’s a chitty soil thing, after looking at options and cost it was within a couple thousand to do the knee walls (I get a 18-24” rat wall too this way along with taller ceiling height) versus pole barn style as I’m framing this 2x6 x 16’ walls. One end of pad has nice gravel foundation other end was crappy clay stuff. We also ran into water (high water table) at clay end and then started hauling in pit run to stabilize the clay. That worked and it’s on a good footing now. At one point we were discussing 24” wide footer in the end we were able to do a 16” wide standard footer.
Post by: stlaser on March 01, 2023, 02:45:33 PM
I’m extending this area of roof over door so I get less wet in the winter as I enter / exit the building. Can’t extend them all the way down due to low side eve’s and location of sidewalk.
Post by: Flyin6 on March 01, 2023, 05:07:54 PM
I like it!
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Old School!
I like it!
It’s not Montana framing w/o breaking out the chainsaw……
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Post by: stlaser on March 01, 2023, 10:01:10 PM
Gotta love dirt issues. Coming along nicely.
It’s always something….. :wink:
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They poured the walls this past Monday. Today they set the thawzall to keep the inside slab area from freezing. They’ll be adding fill and getting it ready to pour shortly. Snow on the way in this evening and 3-5” over the weekend.
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Post by: JR on March 09, 2023, 03:51:03 PM
Post by: stlaser on March 09, 2023, 04:03:51 PM
Nice, just wish it would stop raining here.
We all need the rain, it can keep coming.
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Post by: stlaser on March 09, 2023, 05:34:58 PM
We have more than enough, the chumps just won't store it!!
When you say chumps, I take it you mean the people from California that keep electing imbeciles and can’t figure out how to build a reservoir in the last 30 years? :popcorn:
Post by: JR on March 09, 2023, 05:55:16 PM
Heck, even the liberal dems don't want our so called gov for prez, god help us all!
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Post by: stlaser on March 14, 2023, 07:26:41 PM
Several clear days are upon us with mid 40’s temps in the afternoon. I was able to sheet 95% of the roof before I ran a sheet short. Will finish that in the am and get ice shield and underlayment down.
I ordered the lumber package for big shop today. Came in just over $9k and I’m sure there is another 5% that will be needed but I wanted the package price locked in for now. I need to get garage doors ordered next.
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Post by: JR on March 14, 2023, 07:30:32 PM
Post by: stlaser on March 14, 2023, 07:38:15 PM
Glad your working!
I am, fatigue is gone for the most part. I still have a lingering cough that is exacerbated by the cold air. But beyond that I’m doing good. Gunna try and get this shop completely closed in yet this week. Then I can start electrical and insulation.
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Post by: stlaser on March 14, 2023, 09:59:38 PM
How are those work boots?
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They’re ok, with all the snow and wet I’ve been wearing my muck boots a lot. Broke out sneakers for on the roof today. After discussing the boots with a couple of guys the consensus is heat and sweat to get them broken in properly. Not the ideal time of year for that atm. I currently have 15 hours in them and need around 100 before I oil them further. I can get them on at least now w/o creating sores on my feet so that’s a plus.
Post by: Nate on March 14, 2023, 11:20:14 PM
How are those work boots?
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They’re ok, with all the snow and wet I’ve been wearing my muck boots a lot. Broke out sneakers for on the roof today. After discussing the boots with a couple of guys the consensus is heat and sweat to get them broken in properly. Not the ideal time of year for that atm. I currently have 15 hours in them and need around 100 before I oil them further. I can get them on at least now w/o creating sores on my feet so that’s a plus.
You are a big boy, can make your own decisions, and can leave others opinions as you see fit.
From a large man being forced to walk many, many miles in all leather boots with heavy amounts of weight on my back, i have recommendations i can offer if you would like them.
Post by: stlaser on March 15, 2023, 11:03:49 AM
How are those work boots?
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They’re ok, with all the snow and wet I’ve been wearing my muck boots a lot. Broke out sneakers for on the roof today. After discussing the boots with a couple of guys the consensus is heat and sweat to get them broken in properly. Not the ideal time of year for that atm. I currently have 15 hours in them and need around 100 before I oil them further. I can get them on at least now w/o creating sores on my feet so that’s a plus.
You are a big boy, can make your own decisions, and can leave others opinions as you see fit.
From a large man being forced to walk many, many miles in all leather boots with heavy amounts of weight on my back, i have recommendations i can offer if you would like them.
Thanks Nate, honestly those boots are last of my worries atm. So after speaking with several of you guys I’ll wait until I either “need” the replacements or it warms up considerably then deal with them.
Post by: Flyin6 on March 15, 2023, 11:40:39 AM
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Underlayment is’t perfect but it’s down and fairly straight. I hate working on a roof.
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Roof is dried in with the underlayment complete. We installed the sewer line today and set grade on it. They will be pulling grade for pouring of the slab later this week. I need to get osb up on walls of machine shop next then wrap it and install windows and doors. Once that is complete I’ll start on the electrical and insulation.
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Post by: TexasRedNeck on March 18, 2023, 07:48:03 PM
Curious about the underlayment and how it creates a waterproof intersection with the wall given all the snow pack. # not my problem in the south.
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Post by: stlaser on March 18, 2023, 08:48:54 PM
At least it’s not 12/12!Agreed, it’s 6/12 and highest roof on big shop is 9/12 so that should get interesting.
Curious about the underlayment and how it creates a waterproof intersection with the wall given all the snow pack. # not my problem in the south.
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Well, that’s a 3’ overhang above it so I doubt it ever gets wet. Beyond that there is a special trim piece I’m buying for against that wall that goes up under the siding on existing wall. The steel roof panel sits under it at the new roof level. If it leaks I have a bucket…..
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Post by: stlaser on March 20, 2023, 08:09:47 AM
Second day of burning. I started this project of front yard cleanup last week. Yesterday went better than the first day as the brush was considerably drier. As of this morning that fire is still going strong. Only took 3 gallons of an oil / diesel concoction to get it going good. I cleaned up the drop scraps from the machine shop job site as a base. Consequently, imo this is the best natural whole body workout available. That is pulling ponderosa pine limbs thru slushy / icy snow after getting them to release from the same ground and throwing them on a burn pile for hours on end. Between limbs that are just plain heavy and awkward. Then ending up face down slipping & falling on the ground several times throughout the afternoon I’m feeling it again this morning. #progress
Trip to spokane today to pickup freight skid of kingpin axles so easy day after I run to Libby this morning for banking and a couple supply store stops.
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Post by: Flyin6 on March 20, 2023, 09:04:36 AM
Pulling brush is a necessary part of property ownership.
As much as I don't like doing it, I love the workout it gets you.
Stop doing it and in 10 years your place will have returned to its natural state.
I am feeling it too. All that work on the cabinet, sawing, hauling, up and down stairs a million times, and working at odd angles hanging off a step ladder...Well, it hurts
and
it's good!
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Second day of burning. I started this project of front yard cleanup last week. Yesterday went better than the first day as the brush was considerably drier. As of this morning that fire is still going strong. Only took 3 gallons of an oil / diesel concoction to get it going good. I cleaned up the drop scraps from the machine shop job site as a base. Consequently, imo this is the best natural whole body workout available. That is pulling ponderosa pine limbs thru slushy / icy snow after getting them to release from the same ground and throwing them on a burn pile for hours on end. Between limbs that are just plain heavy and awkward. Then ending up face down slipping & falling on the ground several times throughout the afternoon I’m feeling it again this morning. #progress
Trip to spokane today to pickup freight skid of kingpin axles so easy day after I run to Libby this morning for banking and a couple supply store stops.
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A good fire really helps clean up the place. Living in Western Washington where it rains more often than not during burning season I use a propane torch to get the pile started.
Post by: Sammconn on March 20, 2023, 03:01:55 PM
I need to do a few weekends of it to get me in better shape.
Nice progress on the addition and build site.
These fires burn a long time for sure.
I usually do a Christmas burn as it gives me a few days for it to burn out.
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They pulled grade on the floor today then compacted it again. Finally they dug out the slab for monolithic footings under mezzanine posts, the 2 post lift and a load bearing wall extension. They should have rebar placed in and screed rods set tomorrow. Tomorrow is last nice day before rain comes in. I dug a 5’ sq and drop hole today to locate power going from transformer to the house.
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Post by: stlaser on March 22, 2023, 08:35:34 AM
Looks nice, warming up a touch?
High around 50 last few days, afternoon turns into big mud hole that will swallow your boots. Glacial silt clay crap. Oddest stuff I have ever dealt with. Acts like heavy blue clay when saturated and like moon dust when dry…..
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The hole this morning
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Setting steel
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Post by: stlaser on March 22, 2023, 08:31:24 PM
Hard to see but they dug out for the monolithic structure that will go under the front porch.
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House wrap then windows and doors
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Post by: JR on March 22, 2023, 08:40:52 PM
Post by: stlaser on March 22, 2023, 08:43:32 PM
Your killing it!!
Thanks, got weather coming in soon and we’re leaving for a few days so trying to get quite a bit done this week.
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Windows and doors on deck!
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Post by: stlaser on March 29, 2023, 12:05:38 AM
On the big shop it’s supposed to get a front porch and footer poured tomorrow. Then they’re pouring the floor Friday with a pumper. That should be it for awhile, be good to get them off the payroll.
Wife came home this evening and found me in machine shop working on blocking. Asked what’s next, I told her rough wiring and then insulation. Her response was you’re getting spray foam quoted right? After a whole ten seconds I said that might not be a bad idea. To which she said yes, please get a quote. So I’ve reached out to my insulation guy. We’ll see what he needs for that 12x20 room.
I’ll have a big shop to start framing very soon. So letting someone else do the insulation which I’m
Allergic to is a good idea maybe.
Post by: Flyin6 on March 29, 2023, 10:23:06 AM
Nothing spectacular to report atm. Gotta head out of town and get some real work done. I’ve been finishing up little bits n pieces. Installing hurricane clips on the rafters to walls and several finishing blocking on a few spots. Started adding cedar soffit on the one side to keep birds from nesting in the rafters and getting the door locks installed.Funny you mentioned the birds nesting
On the big shop it’s supposed to get a front porch and footer poured tomorrow. Then they’re pouring the floor Friday with a pumper. That should be it for awhile, be good to get them off the payroll.
Wife came home this evening and found me in machine shop working on blocking. Asked what’s next, I told her rough wiring and then insulation. Her response was you’re getting spray foam quoted right? After a whole ten seconds I said that might not be a bad idea. To which she said yes, please get a quote. So I’ve reached out to my insulation guy. We’ll see what he needs for that 12x20 room.
I’ll have a big shop to start framing very soon. So letting someone else do the insulation which I’m
Allergic to is a good idea maybe.
Kat and I went down to the barn to pick up the mower and there is a small village of birds living up there now.
Next: Barn katz
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Post by: stlaser on March 29, 2023, 05:01:14 PM
Poured front porch this morning
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Post by: stlaser on March 29, 2023, 10:29:23 PM
Things are moving right along. Won’t be long and you can start making money instead of spending money.
Thanks Bob, I hope so. I hate turning down work weekly.
Jr, maybe 3ft is what I’ve been told. As far as concrete idk honestly as I haven’t bought any. I hired a contractor to do a specific job x 2 now. I can tell you I have $75k ish in the land clearing (hauling off stumps and limbs), excavation, fill, 3 culverts, septic tank, 2 foundations and back fill. The one foundation is 36 x 48 and other is 12 x 20 and they’re regular footer and wall type foundations.
Also worth noting we have one concrete plant locally and I’m sure where I’m at they’re charging extra for the extended drive out here. I did get lucky on the pit run fill. $60 per 10 ton and $100 delivery fee per load. Dump fee was $80 a load.
Post by: JR on March 29, 2023, 11:37:23 PM
I think mud is around 200 yard up here, plus a delivery fee and they can't haul a full load with the hill (it pours out)
Frost is 24in around here, but my buildings footings are 3'. Thats were I am at now, starting to dig.
You have really done a lot in a short time.
Post by: stlaser on March 30, 2023, 08:00:46 AM
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Post by: stlaser on March 30, 2023, 11:28:56 PM
Have you got the shop layout designed in your head yet?
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It’s on paper, major things at least. Small stuff will find its home as it goes. I’m thinking white corrugated steel. These shops will be worked in so at least with steel you can wipe them down.
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Conestoga Wagon northward bound
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Post by: JR on April 02, 2023, 07:58:05 PM
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Post by: JR on April 02, 2023, 08:23:27 PM
Colorado shop, first load of shop tools and equipment:likebutton:
Post by: Flyin6 on April 02, 2023, 10:06:16 PM
Post by: stlaser on April 02, 2023, 10:18:50 PM
I hate moving...Bet you hate it more than I do right about now...
Yup……
Although it might get easier if this guy I spoke to buys the shop. He wants the lifts and will just buy me replacements and have them delivered……..
So this load was heavy weld table, mig welder, both tool boxes, engine hoist, all bottles with gas in them. Torches, and all of my inventory of install kits and lockers and gears etc. plus all my tools for axle building. Then a bunch of misc tools and things in truck bed. I’d guess the trailer is 12-13k by itself and truck has another 1k# in it
Post by: JR on April 02, 2023, 11:51:41 PM
Post by: stlaser on April 03, 2023, 05:25:35 AM
By any chance, do you make the brackets for larger brakes on a gm dana 60? Ive seen a set by Torq that use slip over 13in rotors and dual calipers. Much rather give you the $$.
Funny you ask, Duane amd I were just talking about this same thing a week ago. I told him I’d look into it as I make a 15” wheel capable 3/4 ton setup and have for about 25 years. So I’m going to look into it soon.
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Rough in on machine shop wiring, waiting on 10-2 roll of wire to show up yet. Insulation guys stopped by to get measurements for quote last week and crickets since.
Ordered lights from hi-hyperlite.com for the ceiling. Same units as under my mezzanine in last shop but higher watts 60 versus 40 in old shop. 4 units 4’ long LED Vapor Tight Light
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Slab on big shop was poured last Thursday, they cut it the following morning then covered it for last week. It’s rained just about daily since with last 3 pretty steady all day. They pulled blankets off today.
I pulled cap off truck today in anticipation of taking gooseneck trailer to start bringing home lumber for framing on new shop next week. Trusses are 3 weeks out. Gotta get humping it…..
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Post by: JR on April 12, 2023, 10:59:02 PM
I actually got a call from the county wondering on the progress.
Post by: stlaser on April 12, 2023, 11:01:42 PM
So jelous you are killing it.
I actually got a call from the county wondering on the progress.
Thanks JR, warm weather will be there soon enough….. get cracking!
Post by: JR on April 12, 2023, 11:10:42 PM
So, any updates on the brakes?
Post by: stlaser on April 12, 2023, 11:12:45 PM
Its in the 50-60 now, building is on site so good to go.
So, any updates on the brakes?
Not really, 3-4 months out using dodge 14” rotors and calipers
Post by: Dustoff35 on April 13, 2023, 05:23:40 AM
Post by: stlaser on April 13, 2023, 05:37:02 AM
Good job on the framing. Subcontractor or is that you? The attention to detail demonstrated on the blocking… some of us notice that sort of thing!
Thank you, that was me. Ya know, Jack of all trades master of none….
Post by: Flyin6 on April 13, 2023, 08:54:57 PM
Post by: stlaser on April 13, 2023, 09:31:31 PM
That is all looking great! And you should be warming up enough to push full(er) speed ahead!
Well, yeah rain and snow spitting at us. It can’t make up its mind. Finished burning from dropped trees earlier this winter and unloaded the dump trailer that contained all my tools and axle building equipment. The two car garage is a hot mess now.
Post by: stlaser on April 19, 2023, 11:03:34 PM
Few spots still open for Shawn’s rednaked backwoods riggin school….. don’t try this at home y’all!
Yes, the oem ball coupler on this dump trailer is a pia but it didn’t come off while doing sketchy stuff. It is a hd cast unit but takes some patience when hooking & unhooking the truck. I’d rather have the pintle setup, just waiting on 10 ton ring to arrive that I ordered. Then stuff like this is less sketchy.
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Two trips to lumber yard today and one yesterday. I have one long bundle of 16’ 2 x 6’s to pick up yet. Along with the lvl’s which they never ordered a month ago and then lost cut lengths and didn’t reach out to me. So waiting for those to come in to make one more load of lumber for the shop.
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Post by: JR on April 19, 2023, 11:36:31 PM
LVLs are great, but $$$
Post by: stlaser on April 19, 2023, 11:41:39 PM
Where did I miss the purchase of that beaut of a trailer
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Which trailer you talking about Willis?
Post by: stlaser on April 19, 2023, 11:43:10 PM
Thats normal, not redneck at all?
LVLs are great, but $$$
Yeah, it was the one item I beat them up on originally on the quote. All in the lumber package was around 9k
Both foundations total cost with excavation and tree removal was right at $72k
Post by: JR on April 19, 2023, 11:52:49 PM
Post by: Bigdave_185 on April 20, 2023, 07:38:16 AM
That goose neck that’s 30’ of deckWhere did I miss the purchase of that beaut of a trailer
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Which trailer you talking about Willis?
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Post by: Nate on April 20, 2023, 08:31:39 AM
That goose neck that’s 30’ of deckWhere did I miss the purchase of that beaut of a trailer
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Which trailer you talking about Willis?
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thats the one he drove over here to nebraska to get directly from the kaufman factory in beaver city, nebraska. right before his first big move.
Post by: stlaser on April 20, 2023, 08:34:59 AM
That goose neck that’s 30’ of deckWhere did I miss the purchase of that beaut of a trailer
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Which trailer you talking about Willis?
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28’ which is longest tilt deck they make in that model. 14’ of tilt and I ordered it last November and picked it up right after first of year. Hauled a decent load north with it once. Bought it solely to move shop. 17k
Post by: Bigdave_185 on April 20, 2023, 09:29:28 AM
I guess I missed the gooseneck portion of it. Looks like a real nice low set up.That goose neck that’s 30’ of deckWhere did I miss the purchase of that beaut of a trailer
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Which trailer you talking about Willis?
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28’ which is longest tilt deck they make in that model. 14’ of tilt and I ordered it last November and picked it up right after first of year. Hauled a decent load north with it once. Bought it solely to move shop. 17k
Shop progress is fantastic
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Post by: stlaser on April 20, 2023, 09:29:55 PM
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Used the tooth digging bucket on the 215 today to remove this 18-24” of clay. This area will get underlayment and pit run fill on top to stabilize it. It will be a temporary parking area for the fifth wheel until big shop and south lean to is in place. I’m heading down in a week or two to grab the rv and get it relocated to Montana.
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The majority of the material removed from next to the garage was then distributed in front of the new shop. Both areas two weeks ago would have buried the skid loader. Things are drying out quickly even with a bit of rain every couple days.
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Post by: Flyin6 on April 21, 2023, 01:32:33 PM
Post by: stlaser on April 24, 2023, 07:53:48 PM
So today I unloaded the big trailer, mostly by hand and then went to grab last bundle of 2x6 x 16’ ers and the lvl’s I’m using over door ways etc.
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Here it is this afternoon back from todays trip to lumber yard.
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I spoke to the local gravel pit owner this morning. He’s only open a couple days a week but has cheap base for sale. Spoke to him about setting up an account. He laughed and said I know where you live. I agreed, that works too! So starting on weds (first day he’s open this week) I’m going to start hauling pit run base. In anticipation of that and not wanting to start framing today with chance of rain all afternoon. I started on completing the U shaped driveway by removing all of the organic material in that area. Last picture above is a panoramic so you can see how the driveway will be once complete.
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Post by: Dustoff35 on April 24, 2023, 08:30:05 PM
Post by: JR on April 24, 2023, 09:17:14 PM
Area looks great, is that a main road?
Post by: stlaser on April 24, 2023, 09:59:18 PM
I’ll place underlayment down then outrun and finally top it with gravel. Part of my driveway by house only has gravel so I’ll have to dig it all out like I did on other side of garage for the rv.
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Post by: Flyin6 on April 24, 2023, 11:29:46 PM
I know of nothing that packs down any better. Lay and grade that in then top with 1" and go over that with 3/4" or #57 and you'd have as stable a driveway as anyone could build
Post by: stlaser on April 24, 2023, 11:43:24 PM
What’s the finish grade material going to be? Asphalt or concrete or crushed rock?
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I despise asphalt, if you ask my better half it’s all going to be concrete. It’s not, but I hope to have some in key areas. Shop needs a pad out front as does 2 car garage and in area in front of cabin. The area in front of cabin I will have to dig out as knucklehead before me only put 3/4 gravel down, no underlayment and no base. Rest will be gravel driveway.
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This afternoon I laid out all of the sill plates & drilled them. Last pic is ufer ground rod, concrete guys had it originally outside the studded wall. I was able to massage it back into the wall.
Tomorrow is hauling a few loads of pit run with the dump trailer. Plan is to frame walls Thursday - Sat and see how much I can get done. Trusses are scheduled to be complete next week and I have a trip south first of the week coming up.
Lots going on!
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Post by: stlaser on April 25, 2023, 11:36:02 PM
Any barrier going down between the framing and concrete?
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It will once I build the wall with that bottom sill plate. They all have to come off so I didn’t see the point to do it right now. A good wind and your panty hose goes flying……
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Hauled pit run and 1”- last two mornings. Installed French drain from next to garage and around machine shop. Picked and stacked rock to help brace bank near machine shop (no pics sorry, needs more work anyhow). I have a solid place to park the fifth wheel in a few days now.
This is Gary Managhan in the excavator at the pit behind his home. Gary is 78 years young (I’d have guessed mid 60’s), raising two of his grand daughters 14 & 15. Packed up and worked ND oil fields at 71, did that for three years as there was a downturn here locally and no work. I’ve learnt quite a bit about him in two days. He’s a real man thru and thru. Hats off to that guy, glad I can give him a lot of future business. Hope he hangs around for a while!
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Stub wall in place and first of three short walls up on north side. Got the verticals cut for long front wall tomorrow. Most of these walls going forward will be built on concrete then set in place with skid loader.
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Post by: Dustoff35 on April 29, 2023, 08:28:26 AM
Post by: stlaser on April 29, 2023, 08:55:08 AM
Looks great. Are you a one-man-framing-crew?
I am, although I have a bored 62 yr old retired lineman as a neighbor. Good guy who will walk over and help with things like setting walls etc. so that helps tremendously for such tasks. Much better than the wife…… :wink:
Post by: Flyin6 on April 29, 2023, 01:53:35 PM
Seems you found a good one.
Post by: stlaser on April 29, 2023, 05:17:14 PM
Bored neighbors can work either way, good or bad
Seems you found a good one.
He seems to like being retired with not a lot to do. He’s 62 and in very good shape. He’s not like most of us here, he hires out most jobs around his place. Although I think I’m rubbing off on him some and giving him the encouragement to try to do some things himself even at my expense of loaning him tools etc. Personally, I believe I’d go stir crazy being retired.
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Post by: stlaser on April 29, 2023, 08:02:09 PM
After I retired from active duty I said I wasn't going to do anything for 6 months. That lasted about 2 week before I found a no brain job and started looking for a real job
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Well, I’m not like most. At 37 I sold our farm, sold a business, essentially turned another into a holding company and resigned from my day job (career?) and wife took a job and we were relocated to Colorado. After working 18-20 hours a day for years I was to put it lightly worn out. I told myself I was taking 3 months minimum off. I last a month, I focused on running, binge watched breaking bad, got three teenagers around and earned the nickname lunch lady that first year of their schooling in Colorado.
At 30 days after the move I felt rested and started going stir crazy. I started hunting for shop space and meeting steel vendors on the front range. Bought a house at 3 months in Colorado and started up a new business in third bay of that garage. So after all of that I know now I probably won’t ever retire and that’s ok……
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Built first wall on ground and with help of neighbor Curt set it in place with skid loader and boom I built. Sorry forgot pics of boom but it worked awesome. It does need a swivel hook which I ordered this afternoon off eBay. Make note JR, swivel hook on end of boom is needed!
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Post by: JR on April 30, 2023, 04:24:39 AM
You are going great, I just got back.
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Thanks guys, was able to finish’s the far north wall and set it today. We have intermittent rain called for the next week. In fact in the bottom picture I was able to get some house wrap on these walls and tools put away prior to a small thunderstorm rolling thru.
I spoke to truss manufacturer today, they were originally supposed to be ready on the first. However, they’re running behind as am I. So it looks like I have a couple weeks to finish framing which I’ll need. At least get big trailer unloaded and relocated so they can drop trusses right outside the west overhead door.
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In between rain storms Saturday evening I cut the pieces for the end wall. Then it rained all day yesterday and this morning. Weather broke around 1 pm and I was able to get it nailed and sheeted then erected. Covered with house wrap as it’s calling for another two days of rain.
I did some wiring this morning on home runs to panel in two car garage from the attached machine shop. Spray foam of machine shop is getting done tomorrow. Progress…..
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Post by: stlaser on May 08, 2023, 09:41:04 PM
Post by: Flyin6 on May 08, 2023, 09:50:16 PM
Psalm 37:23-31 King James Version 23 The steps of a good man are ordered by the Lord: and he delighteth in his way. 24 Though he fall, he shall not be utterly cast down: for the Lord upholdeth him with his hand. 25 I have been young, and now am old; yet have I not seen the righteous forsaken, nor his seed begging bread.
The steps of a good man — Hebrew, of man, namely, of the righteous, or blessed man, mentioned Psalm 37:21-22; are ordered by the Lord — Or, directed, or disposed, that is, so governed as to attain the end at which he aims; or strengthened, or established, so as he shall not stumble and fall into mischief
The steps of the righteous are ordered by the Lord. Psalm 37:23 Thank you Heavenly Father for ordering my steps. Thank you for your mercies.
Post by: JR on May 08, 2023, 09:53:45 PM
I remember doing the roof on my house/garage and having to tarp it every night as I was working full time. I got a wall up today!
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Post by: Bigdave_185 on May 09, 2023, 05:14:07 AM
Comin along nicely
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Post by: stlaser on May 09, 2023, 08:53:50 AM
I worked until 6:30 ish yesterday evening. Came in to the wife unit and asked if she wanted to take her evening walk, we used to do this in Colorado as well. She’s coupe’d up in an office all day and in meetings. Just something we’ve gotten in the habit of, did our fair amount of hikes last year too as it’s something we enjoy. After the walk which is a mile give or take with our dogs around a big loop. I stood in the living room looking out and decided I’d much rather be standing in this log cabin here versus that home in Colorado surrounded by other homes. We’re very blessed.
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Post by: stlaser on May 09, 2023, 10:33:42 AM
You need a redneck neighbor, just saying….;-)
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Plenty of ground available in my neighborhood……
I think it meets rainfall (or pretty close) and population density :wink:
As a bonus Ken will be about 40 mins away so we can always get together for coffee & H jokes at his expense!
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Machine shop received closed cell spray foam today. Ordered steel roofing yesterday for it. Plan is to sheet it inside with osb on rain days. Slowly finish it off.
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Post by: Bob Smith on May 09, 2023, 10:22:13 PM
Post by: stlaser on May 09, 2023, 10:36:26 PM
Your prayers about a new home to enjoy and make your own have really been answered. What a beautiful place you guys have Shawn. This Summer you can sit outside at sunset and enjoy the view and all that has been made available to you. Take the time man, and enjoy all that has been made available to you.
I agree Bob, thank you!!
Post by: JR on May 09, 2023, 11:28:43 PM
Post by: stlaser on May 10, 2023, 12:43:19 AM
Slow down, your making me look bad!!
Nah, just stroked a check today……
Had steel shipment to pickup in Spokane this afternoon so didn’t get anything done myself.
Post by: TexasRedNeck on May 10, 2023, 05:47:22 AM
Looking good.
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Post by: stlaser on May 10, 2023, 09:20:36 AM
Spray foam is the only way to fly. Here in the south though you really have to have humidity control since its so air tight.
Looking good.
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Thanks, I’ll probably have a dehumidifier in there as I don’t want equipment rusting.
Post by: stlaser on May 10, 2023, 07:14:56 PM
Started off the morning welding and building GLO parts. After that it was about 1pm and rain in the forecast. So I started by finishing the blocking on the existing erected walls. Then was able to frame and square this interior support wall. Even managed to get tools put away right before rain flew.
Plan is to set this wall tomorrow now after I install blocking on it every four feet. Does it need it, idk but can’t hurt with 16’ walls….
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Post by: Dustoff35 on May 11, 2023, 05:56:34 AM
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First tall wall set in place, second adjacent wall framed up and called it a day.
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Post by: Flyin6 on May 11, 2023, 08:42:12 PM
This is going up so fast
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Post by: stlaser on May 12, 2023, 05:25:41 PM
What’s wrong with this picture? ^^^^^^
Gunna have to demote the layout guy I suppose!
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Much better, hard to find good help!
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Worked on stuff mostly in the shade today as I’m a little crispy from yesterday. I bought a 12’ tall (3 section) scaffolding set on wheels that I need to get assembled now that I’m setting the big walls. I think I’ll tackle that over the weekend.
Swapped the dumb ball hitch out on dump trailer to pintle ring setup. There was almost a 1/4” of slop in the channel where the ring bolts in on front of dump. So I bought some 1/8” x 1 1/4 flat steel & made two spacers. Tightened it right up.
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Post by: stlaser on May 12, 2023, 05:29:59 PM
Doesn’t look tight but it is, that ring casting bows out in center from top to bottom between the two bolts holes that secure it.
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Small used wood stove I picked up and had sand blasted. Painting it with bbq grill paint. The logo on it says GLO - FIRE so I think it’s a fitting piece for the new shop.
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Post by: stlaser on May 13, 2023, 03:42:43 PM
Looking good Shawn, I love framing. It make the progress look fast. Very satisfying.
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Thanks, I agree framing isn’t bad. It takes some thought and planning so it’s not monotonous at least.
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Retired neighbor helped me set this middle section this morning that I framed Saturday.
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Post by: stlaser on May 15, 2023, 04:06:04 PM
Then started framing the final section of this “northern” wall.
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Had to leave mid day to take our youngest dog to vet with an ear infection.
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Jcb is handy, ac hasn’t worked since I bought it. Come to find out a torn o ring on one of the connections. Should be back in working order shortly.
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Much better w/ ac
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Post by: stlaser on May 16, 2023, 06:52:54 PM
Looks like it works good. Of course Im sure the JCB comes in handy too!
This wall I set today was by far heaviest so far w/ all the osb on it. Lower section of boom didn’t budge, the upper section was bowing slightly. But it held like a champ. Couldn’t imagine setting walls w/o the boom and the added swivel hook is working great too.
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Couple Birds Eye view pictures from scaffolding I purchased. Set two small sections of west wall today. Need to glue a beam together for this end above the doorway and set it next.
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Post by: stlaser on May 23, 2023, 08:20:52 PM
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Set the beam above the large 12’ wide x 14’ tall shop door today. Framed up two narrow sections of wall & then framed up section that will get set in place above the big shop door. At that point called it a day.
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Set the stub wall above the large garage door opening and added a double top plate. Then started framing the last of the opposite eastern wall. It has two more windows (total of 3) on the east end. Once that’s complete the south wall should be easy and quick with only one 10’ x 10’ door opening although it’s 48’ long total. Hoping to set eastern wall before the weekend.
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Post by: stlaser on May 29, 2023, 12:16:23 AM
Friday, I hauled pit run base and installed a 40’ 6” culvert next to the road to start the U shaped driveway entrance / exit. I’ve hauled around 40 yards so far. It costs me $25 per 5 yards, so cheap imo. It’s going to take another 40 yards of base to fill in that low area next to the road I believe.
I’ve been working on moving a load of nice clean fill into the area kind of between cabin and machine shop. It was low & uneven, so been using wheel barrow to move that in at about ten loads a day. This back area will get seeded for grass and eventually two walls of fence in and L shape to enclose that back area in. It will give us a small private yard and place for little dogs to do business w/o fear of something carrying them off easily. Finished moving that mud this afternoon. Once it dries some I can rake it out. I need to bring in some more gravel next to sidewalk and house but will do it with the skid loader.
I hired a guy to put steel on the machine shop, just helped him finish here right before 10pm tonight. He stayed at it but was worn out, I wanted it finished so I could pay him and send him home. No pics it was dark.
Supposed to be clear tomorrow so hope to finish east wall on big shop and get it stood up. Fingers crossed.
Wife made homemade ice cream and cupcakes, need to keep burning 5000 calories a day with her around!
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Post by: Atkinsmatt on May 29, 2023, 12:15:58 PM
Post by: JR on May 29, 2023, 01:32:22 PM
Looks like the low spot will have some run off, maybe a pipe first?
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Post by: JR on May 29, 2023, 02:04:53 PM
Runoff is a huge issue. It rained, hailed with nice thunder lightning this saturday at the Ridge. Was really nice as nothing was enough to worry about. Weather service had alerts out too.
Post by: stlaser on May 29, 2023, 06:26:16 PM
Post by: stlaser on May 29, 2023, 06:27:46 PM
East wall set, swear Charles ordered his humidity for us up here. I think after these recent rains I lost 5# in sweat alone today…….
So far I’ve used 165 pcs of 2x6 x 16’ along with some additional treated for the base plate. Using #2 it saved me about 15% on the cost. I do have to sort them but with all the blocking needed that 15% savings was worth it for me.
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Post by: JR on May 29, 2023, 06:37:51 PM
Post by: stlaser on May 29, 2023, 06:45:14 PM
Reff to the pic in #488, not the roof.
The open ditch in second pick from top? We installed a 12” culvert there 40’ long. That swail was part of original landscape, it drains to the south just east of cabin & machine shop. Had to put in culvert to access the big shop.
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Should get the header in and it closed up above the rear 10’ x 10’ overhead door tomorrow then we have a short camping trip to see two of our daughters in Bozeman over the weekend. I will get the walls all buttoned up next week prior to another trip to Colorado. Be glad to move on to framing something other than walls! So close…..
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Post by: TexasRedNeck on June 06, 2023, 09:16:46 PM
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Post by: stlaser on June 06, 2023, 10:14:36 PM
Lookin good!
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Thanks Charles, first it was the humidity and now it’s the mosquitoes. Wasn’t a cloud in sight all day today. But those darn mosquitoes will try to eat me up regardless.
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Probably but I’ve already spent my monthly allowance and then some! :facepalm:
Such is life!
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Post by: stlaser on June 07, 2023, 09:32:15 AM
Looks great. You all do grow some big skeeters up there!
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Thanks and affirmative! :likebutton:
Post by: stlaser on June 13, 2023, 05:45:10 PM
Steel roofing on machine shop
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In this pic ^^^^^^ you can see the non blocked wall studs are tipped into the left at the top. I purposely left out blocking and osb until this section of wall was put in place. We were able to move it with little real effort see below.
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^^^^^ retired lineman neighbor doing lineman rigging of things! Curt is always there to help me setting walls etc.
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Post by: stlaser on June 13, 2023, 05:49:16 PM
Post by: JR on June 13, 2023, 07:28:35 PM
Post by: stlaser on June 13, 2023, 07:32:01 PM
What angle did you mount the boom? I am thinking around 15*.
Hell, idk……. Lol, I just threw it in the saw and cut it at an angle I thought was good. Turns out it was just about right! I can bring a protractor back with me from Colorado and get you a true measurement if you like?
I could also take a couple measurements and lay it out in cad to figure out the angle if you need.
Post by: JR on June 13, 2023, 07:35:06 PM
Post by: wyorunner on June 13, 2023, 09:16:08 PM
We may or may not have found the weight limit on the home built boom….. I’ll get a string line and some pics together soonWondered if it would happen, but then you made it through almost everything so figured you’d make it. Guess not!
Post by: stlaser on June 13, 2023, 09:50:59 PM
We may or may not have found the weight limit on the home built boom….. I’ll get a string line and some pics together soonWondered if it would happen, but then you made it through almost everything so figured you’d make it. Guess not!
I did not say it failed, still going strong! :tongue:
However, there may be an upgrade modification in its future when time allows.
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Gussets all held
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Post by: JR on June 14, 2023, 12:07:32 AM
Post by: stlaser on June 14, 2023, 12:25:29 AM
Looks pretty good. I was thinking about adding gussets to the upper corners where it hooks to the mount, is that where yours gives a little?
No sir, that’s a 1/4” plate for reference. My lower section of tube has a slight bow in it I believe. I think it happened when I had the upper section collapsed in it and picked up the heavy east wall with 2 wi dows framed in it and fully sheeted. There are 3’-4’ of tube on the lower just past the bracing to the plate and before it gets to the extension (upper inner tube) when collapsed. I think the inner tube being inside kept that portion straight and the weak area was the section with just the lower tube. It needs a back strap built into it. I should have welded some flat bar on the top side on edge to give it more support. I think I can straighten it and add a back strap yet.
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Last section of wall framed and stood up today right before rain hit. Secured it in a good steady rain storm. So happy they’re all up! Now to finish some blocking tomorrow and some sheeting.
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Post by: stlaser on June 22, 2023, 11:36:06 PM
Trusses delivered, dealt with hvac issues and plumbing issues most of the day. Back to framing tomorrow.
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Walls blocked 100% and sheeting done.
Going to wrap it next then start fabricating rafters for the north short side. I’ll start by hanging a 2x10 with timber locks off the side about a foot down from top of tall wall then use that to attach steel hangers to on the high side of the short roof.
Once I get those rafters installed and the roof decked on the short side we can install the trusses over the tall section.
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Post by: Flyin6 on June 23, 2023, 10:44:06 PM
;-)
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Post by: Flyin6 on June 25, 2023, 10:49:35 AM
It does, we’ll change that look soon enoughIt would look good either way ;-!
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Wrapped as much as I can until I set trusses (sheeting will hang down off each end truss about 5”). Starting rafters on north side next day or so depending on rain. Will finish up today moving dirt around east and north side to fill up against foundation and bring it to final grade.
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Post by: JR on June 27, 2023, 04:23:00 PM
Post by: stlaser on June 27, 2023, 08:25:58 PM
Whats your frost line up there?
Idk, 36” maybe it’s not true Montana cold here. Kind of a banana belt so to speak. I’m going to cover most of it 36”+ and the south side near where the rv will be parked under the lean to may be a little less.
Post by: JR on June 27, 2023, 09:14:47 PM
Post by: stlaser on June 27, 2023, 10:03:03 PM
Is that for the foundations? I have 24, ready to start digging (finally).
Foundations, posts etc.
Things such as water lines I’ll go 48” on.
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Go to grab them and they start loading them up, they’re white! I’m like is that just a plastic covering? Or are those white? Guys are like these are white.
So I go in to deal with sales guy. He start’s literally thumbing thru 3 notebooks of chicken scratch. I said you don’t understand, I gave your guy this picture and somehow he ordered white?
His loading guy comes in and asks what he wants us to do about product in my dump trailer. Sales guy says idk this is going to take awhile. I responded, unload them I don’t need $9k in white garage doors.
I got up and started walking towards the door. He says I’ll call you and let you know what or how we can handle this. I just walked out……
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Post by: JR on June 28, 2023, 09:50:35 PM
Post by: stlaser on June 28, 2023, 09:54:38 PM
Hmm, sounds familiar.
How so?
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Post by: JR on June 28, 2023, 10:18:44 PM
For the ridge doors, I setteled for the factory insulating kit. Not the same as premade in the doors, but close enough.
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Slow progress, hung the header for the north rafters and welded up then set the post for my shops front porch. Hauled 55 yards of pit run over last two days. Right at 95 yards total filling in the low spot for the u shaped driveway extension. Guessing another 20-30 yards to complete the fill then need to top with -1” gravel. Hoping to have this completed end of next week.
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Post by: stlaser on July 01, 2023, 09:53:41 PM
Neighbor is going to stick my boom on his 25hp Kubota and set the couple hundred pound beam for porch tomorrow. Then I’m stuck just doing rafters and decking on that until skid is fixed, warranty is nice. I’d rather it not keep having issues though.
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Post by: Flyin6 on July 02, 2023, 10:26:37 AM
100% of my machines and attachments developed leaks. 99% of these are fittings that loosen up from factory installation. I never pay attention to torque settings on that stuff. I get things "Darned tight." and leave it at that. Lately, when I get a piece, I go over it tightening all the hose fittings and that has helped. My Blue Diamond attachments always seemed to have loose fittings. Heck, even my Kubota track loader started leaking and several hoses were loose. I think I may have leaked all that fluid out with several failures and had to top it up with fresh stuff.
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Post by: BobbyB on July 02, 2023, 10:58:33 AM
I'll have to swing by whenever I go hunting out yonder. There's hunts in the planning phase.
Post by: stlaser on July 02, 2023, 12:17:31 PM
I'm late to the party, the place looks awesome.
I'll have to swing by whenever I go hunting out yonder. There's hunts in the planning phase.
Thank you, absolutely anytime you’re in the area.
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Cut three rafters before I caught that the tails were off. Cut 8 rafters and set 7 of them today along with the beam. Third down…..
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Post by: stlaser on July 03, 2023, 04:35:24 PM
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Post by: JR on July 03, 2023, 04:49:10 PM
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Post by: JR on July 03, 2023, 05:53:22 PM
Inspector didn't like I cut the ends of 2x12 to 2x8 to fit the header and brackets. I had to point out it was still a 2x12 as the strength was really centered vs right on the end. He did like that I used SDS screws on every really major joint.
Post by: stlaser on July 03, 2023, 06:00:29 PM
Yep, the outriggers filling that void will help a lot.
Inspector didn't like I cut the ends of 2x12 to 2x8 to fit the header and brackets. I had to point out it was still a 2x12 as the strength was really centered vs right on the end. He did like that I used SDS screws on every really major joint.
Structural screws are a great idea. :likebutton:
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Post by: TexasRedNeck on July 03, 2023, 09:38:35 PM
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Post by: stlaser on July 03, 2023, 10:10:24 PM
The palm nailer was the best thing I ever bought when it came to Simpson hangers.
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Agreed
Post by: Flyin6 on July 04, 2023, 12:08:55 AM
Post by: JR on July 04, 2023, 12:13:35 AM
You are making great headway, don't let me dampen that at all. With the kids out of school, all the events I just haven't got a thing done up there since May.
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Porch is all framed in, half the rafters are set as of the end of the day. Should be able to get the rest set tomorrow then blocking Friday is the plan.
3’ overhang to the front or west end of building 18” on other 3 sides.
As I get older I get more creative on hanging long pieces of facia. Strategic placement of scab material help hold it in place and line up thing’s properly. Sorry no pics of that….
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Post by: TexasRedNeck on July 05, 2023, 11:18:20 PM
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Porch is all framed in, half the rafters are set as of the end of the day. Should be able to get the rest set tomorrow then blocking Friday is the plan.
3’ overhang to the front or west end of building 18” on other 3 sides.
As I get older I get more creative on hanging long pieces of facia. Strategic placement of scab material help hold it in place and line up thing’s properly. Sorry no pics of that….
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Post by: stlaser on July 05, 2023, 11:42:00 PM
Post by: stlaser on July 06, 2023, 06:25:38 PM
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Temp hit 92 today, hit the goal of cutting and setting all those rafters. Blocking & east outriggers tomorrow. Maybe some facia too.
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Post by: JR on July 06, 2023, 07:08:32 PM
Post by: stlaser on July 06, 2023, 07:12:40 PM
When do the rafters arrive?
Post #528
Post by: JR on July 06, 2023, 07:26:05 PM
Quit messing around and get em up!
Post by: stlaser on July 06, 2023, 07:28:30 PM
I'm bad, thought was some of the neighbors stuff.
Quit messing around and get em up!
Wanted the short roof decked so it gives a guy a place to walk when setting those trusses. Other side I can use scaffolding.
Post by: stlaser on July 07, 2023, 04:07:55 PM
One 12’ 2x8 shy of getting the rafter blocking complete. I’ll grab it and some 2x6’s for outriggers and facia in the morning.
I ordered some steel to modify the boom in order to be able to hang the trusses from it and set them on the walls which are 18’4” tall. I tried to rent a sky lift but none of them locally had enough reach and they were $500 for a day with delivery.
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Post by: Sammconn on July 07, 2023, 06:57:48 PM
Someone else is givin’er pretty hard too.
A big undertaking on your own.
Well done sir!
Post by: stlaser on July 07, 2023, 09:37:07 PM
Ain’t no rest for the wicked they say…… :wink:
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Was able to get a little over 3 hours in this morning before out of nowhere I was attacked by the feared and dreaded honeydo…….. so no facia up yet. I did get all the cut drops picked up and taken to garbage dump. May go out this evening once it cools down some and try to hang that.
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Wife is canning blueberry jam, up next is black raspberry & red raspberry. Strawberries few weeks out yet.
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Got up early & knocked out the remaining facia. I took pictures of how I hang this by myself. I use a block on top to set the far end vertically and then use starter screws on the 2’ stud / rafter center.
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Post by: rpar86 on July 09, 2023, 11:50:48 AM
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Post by: Flyin6 on July 09, 2023, 02:10:29 PM
Jam that is...
Although contraption to hang that long board is right up there too.
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Started the day sheeting the roof. Got tired (hot & drenched in sweat) of that around 1pm and decided to finish moving fill to north and east side of shop foundation. On the plus side bouncing around in skid loader all afternoon I thought of a slightly easier way to get sheets on roof tomorrow.
Service tech came out this morning and fixed skid loader (had 58 hours on it and 3rd issue they fixed). Main line to pump, the fitting was loose and it pushed the oring out splitting it in the process. Tech stated this is maybe 3rd or 4th unit he’s fixed with same issue. That line is hard to get to and he thinks manufacturing isn’t getting them tight enough.
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Post by: stlaser on July 12, 2023, 03:59:40 PM
Finished up the sheeting this morning and the osb on the short section of wall above the roof. Currently waiting on titanium ice shield underlayment to come in (tomorrow hopefully). Up next is modifying the boom to have enough reach to set the trusses.
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Post by: stlaser on July 13, 2023, 04:01:48 PM
Added a few feet extra to the jib boom to be able to set trusses along with a hook on the end. This should grab under the top of the truss & allow me to set them on top of the walls now.
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Post by: JR on July 13, 2023, 04:05:27 PM
Post by: stlaser on July 13, 2023, 04:57:49 PM
Just about 20ft now?
I didn’t measure it, but I think 22-23’ as I have low 30’s on total height
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Hired help is coming tomorrow morning at 8am so Curt my former lineman neighbor and I decided to do a trial run on setting the trusses & walking them in.
I ended up shortening the boom to right at 19’ & with neighbors help we devised a plan to use bowline knots and rigged the trusses with rope about 3/4 the way up the truss to get lift height we need. In addition I modified the modified boom and put the hook swivel out at the very end of the 19’.
Knock on wood but this should go smoothly in the morning. Man lift being delivered mid next week so I can install outriggers on high portion and facia. Then hopefully sheet the south side while I have the machine here.
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Post by: Bigdave_185 on July 14, 2023, 07:39:29 PM
These days maybe not so much.. I might be talked into tryin it
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Post by: stlaser on July 14, 2023, 09:10:26 PM
I know it was much a younger man’s game but… back in the day we would have slid them up the outside wall. Walked the wall to the other side and worked our way down.
These days maybe not so much.. I might be talked into tryin it
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I can recall being 18 ish, buddy got his gf knocked up in high school. His Dad was late 50’s, but helping him build their first house & I think they still live in it albeit with additions and three kids later.
Walls were all up, I went over to help set trusses on a Saturday. The Dad knew I wasn’t scared of heights unlike his two sons. Comes up to me, “so do you want to get up and walk the wall or do you want me to?” Lol, as if I was gunna tell him I wasn’t doing it…..
So tomorrow I may be youngest guy helping. We’re not lifting heavy chit, why I bought the skid loader……
Other option was to have them set on the walls and flip them up and walk them down. That sounds like work too!
Post by: Bigdave_185 on July 15, 2023, 10:31:30 AM
I agree skidd much less workin.
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4 guys, 5-6 hours (first hour ish didn’t count as we took a piece of rebar and bent it into a hook to lift with versus the ropes). Last 5 trusses we extended the boom to full length and set them from outside the building. 92 here and zero breeze up until last hour. However, the trusses are all set and I’m happy that job is complete.
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Post by: JR on July 15, 2023, 07:00:11 PM
Post by: stlaser on July 15, 2023, 08:02:51 PM
Looks good. I can handle 92 ok, its 107 here and feels it.
One word, yuck
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Post by: Bigdave_185 on July 15, 2023, 11:40:18 PM
Such progress
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Post by: stlaser on July 16, 2023, 07:06:23 AM
Post by: Sammconn on July 16, 2023, 09:02:04 AM
Or a different one…Looks good. I can handle 92 ok, its 107 here and feels it.
One word, yuck
Eeeeewwwe.
Very nice progress.
I bet you’ll be more relieved once sheathing is on.
But don’t kill yourself accomplishing it.
Post by: stlaser on July 16, 2023, 09:37:53 AM
I’m waiting on man lift mid week I hope. So going to get hurricane brackets installed first, then facia on north side along with outriggers that I can reach standing on walls. Should be able to get far enough up on north side to get a run of sheathing in place. I need to cover the lower section of roof with ice shield which finally came in Friday too. Plenty to do.
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Man lift shows up tomorrow afternoon. Started facia & outriggers on north side. Then pre cut them all so when machine shows up it should go rather quick. Plan is to get all of facia completed with outriggers and blocking between outriggers set then at bar minimum get south side sheeted.
We’re also using the machine to do some exterior maintenance on our cabin. The logs have settled over the course of 2-3 years and it needs some of the main ridge beam logs cracks filled in and other areas caulked up high. Momma wants the big windows on west end cleaned too.
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Post by: JR on July 19, 2023, 08:37:45 PM
Post by: stlaser on July 19, 2023, 08:51:23 PM
Stop, you look like you know what your doing!! :laugh:
It would appear so….
I used 2x10’s for bird blocking between the trusses on north side. Due to the steep angle (9/12) of the roof they don’t exactly block birds (unless you count ostriches) but the trusses are braced and it will keep the blown insulation out of soffits.
Post by: stlaser on July 20, 2023, 08:08:14 PM
The man lift showed up early around 10:30 am so I got right to work installing blocking on south side.
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Then worked my way around to west end outriggers and blocking between those. This machine takes 50% of the work out of this job.
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Finished up a bit after 5 pm with facia on south side.
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Post by: Bigdave_185 on July 20, 2023, 09:26:14 PM
Watch the bumps. It will send ya flyin with out a connected harness
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Post by: Bob Smith on July 20, 2023, 10:16:16 PM
Post by: stlaser on July 20, 2023, 10:51:39 PM
Did you have to remove the hour meter wire, or is it rented by the week? You spend way too much time working and not enough time enjoying the surroundings. It all looks really nice :likebutton:
Hefty price tag & it’s by the week or day but the week price is a tad more bearable. I have a lot of high work to do between cabin & this shop so a week it is. See how far I get tomorrow. We’ve been doing little things but my goal is to hunt and fish quite a bit this fall. So work hard now so I have more time then & beyond.
Post by: Bob Smith on July 21, 2023, 12:18:02 AM
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Post by: stlaser on July 21, 2023, 12:53:23 AM
So do they add the hours up or just let you have it for the week? I know here when you rent for a day, its 8 hours on the meter.
Set fee, I prepaid and have the invoice already. It needs to go back with a full tank of fuel, no one cares about mileage, this is Montana…….
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Post by: Flyin6 on July 21, 2023, 10:23:39 AM
That old shape was growing on me. Guess I'll have to get used to this new interesting shape.
As always
Great work!
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100 degrees here today, not much fun
Had to pull some of lateral bracing to get the trusses plumb as I put down the sheeting. Trusses have decent bow in them that I’m going to work out as I go up with the sheeting.
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Post by: stlaser on July 23, 2023, 06:43:54 PM
Roughly 60% of high roof sheeted
Pushing close to 100 degrees last two days, we’re supposed to get a 10-15 degree drop in high temp for next few days now.
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Post by: stlaser on July 23, 2023, 06:46:37 PM
I hate those man lifts! The only ones I have used are military version and they never worked right or would die at the wrong time. Stuck in one near the tail of an AWACS when a thunder storm rolled in. They had to pull it away from the aircraft with a truck and crack the cylinder hydro line to get me down. Was not a fun ride
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Army doesn’t own ladders eh? :tongue:
Post by: Nate on July 23, 2023, 06:55:49 PM
I hate those man lifts! The only ones I have used are military version and they never worked right or would die at the wrong time. Stuck in one near the tail of an AWACS when a thunder storm rolled in. They had to pull it away from the aircraft with a truck and crack the cylinder hydro line to get me down. Was not a fun rideYour branch doesn’t own ladders eh? :tongue:
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steve like the other dave was a blue suiter not a green suiter!
Post by: JR on July 23, 2023, 07:01:23 PM
Post by: stlaser on July 23, 2023, 07:22:14 PM
Just that close to being dried in.
Yes sir, hoping Weds…..
Post by: oklawall on July 23, 2023, 11:13:08 PM
I for one am not climbing a 60' ladder unless it is tied to something in Oklahoma windsI hate those man lifts! The only ones I have used are military version and they never worked right or would die at the wrong time. Stuck in one near the tail of an AWACS when a thunder storm rolled in. They had to pull it away from the aircraft with a truck and crack the cylinder hydro line to get me down. Was not a fun ride
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Army doesn’t own ladders eh? :tongue:
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Post by: stlaser on July 23, 2023, 11:19:43 PM
I for one am not climbing a 60' ladder unless it is tied to something in Oklahoma windsI hate those man lifts! The only ones I have used are military version and they never worked right or would die at the wrong time. Stuck in one near the tail of an AWACS when a thunder storm rolled in. They had to pull it away from the aircraft with a truck and crack the cylinder hydro line to get me down. Was not a fun ride
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Army doesn’t own ladders eh? :tongue:
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The reach on this one is like 32’
Post by: oklawall on July 23, 2023, 11:25:08 PM
32 feet ? Couldn't you do that with a couple of step ladders stacked on top of each other? Those lifts are a life saver. When you have to get people and equipment up any distance make work safer, quicker and easier. I may not like them but sometimes they are the best tool for the jobI for one am not climbing a 60' ladder unless it is tied to something in Oklahoma windsI hate those man lifts! The only ones I have used are military version and they never worked right or would die at the wrong time. Stuck in one near the tail of an AWACS when a thunder storm rolled in. They had to pull it away from the aircraft with a truck and crack the cylinder hydro line to get me down. Was not a fun ride
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Army doesn’t own ladders eh? :tongue:
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The reach on this one is like 32’
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Post by: stlaser on July 25, 2023, 08:40:44 PM
Sheeting 100% done
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Plan is to finish roof underlayment tomorrow and get it dried in on both ends before lift goes back Thursday. I’ll have two small triangles under the low roof I’ll need to finish framing and toss some wrap on. Then it’s time for garage doors, man door & windows.
Electrical service becomes a priority too then.
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Post by: stlaser on July 25, 2023, 08:42:48 PM
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Apparently I forgot to post this picture from yesterday. Laid the underlayment on the south side. Had to wait on top run as it hangs around a foot over into the north side.
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Roof underlayment 100% on, ends closed in & wrapped. Just a couple spots under low roof to frame and sheet then add some wrap. Long day today & mid 90’s again.
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I’ve been working on cleaning existing 2 car (organizing / sweeping) and wiring small compressor in there that will feed air to machine shop. In addition moved mill into machine shop & wired that up. I have some parts orders that required press brake and milling work so had to get those machines up & going.
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Been slow going last few days. I wired up the mill in the machine shop and small compressor found it’s forever home in the detached 2 car garage. I’ll eventually plumb it into machine shop for air purposes there.
Had several orders that were out a few weeks and needed to focus on getting them shipped which happened yesterday.
I started hanging components on the electric pedestal for the new 400 amp meter which will have 200 feeding cabin / detached garage / machine shop & then 200 for big shop. The idea on this pedestal is to set it up so we can add a gen set transfer switch in the future with minimal rework of the existing panels. Pedestal is east of shop which is where the new propane tank will reside with whole house genset in the future. Far away from our cabin so we don’t need to listen to it.
In the meantime I do have garage door installer scheduled and I decided to stroke a check for the roof steel installation. Hvac guy is supposed to stop by this week or next so we can discuss heat in the big shop.
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Post by: Bob Smith on August 09, 2023, 11:13:17 AM
Post by: stlaser on August 09, 2023, 11:38:16 AM
Funny you mention fire suppression. This developer (from commifornia) is shady. We’ve got his number. He’s flat out lied to us several times. The county has frozen him selling any lots further until he meets the fire suppression criteria he agreed to for this development. Btw, he’s told us he doesn’t have to do any of that in prior conversation while asking what we’d be ok with allowing him to do….
From my understanding after meeting local fire chief there is supposed to be a 5k underground gallon storage tank here in our development and a building over it to store a brush fighting tank equipped truck. Developer was trying to weasel his way into using our well and us selling him property (because he can’t plan ahead properly) to house this tank and building as our property is near development entrance. The water line he already has stubbed for it east of my shop. I appreciate that he did that as I’m using it for shop water now……
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Post by: wyorunner on August 09, 2023, 05:42:24 PM
Post by: stlaser on August 09, 2023, 07:38:58 PM
My generator package also came with a whole home surge protector.
Nice :likebutton:
Post by: stlaser on August 09, 2023, 07:45:47 PM
Shawn, are you guys still able to secure the adjacent lot that was listed a couple months back? Reading the commifornia developer having screwed everything up made me wonder.
We could have as I had it under contract with contingency of Colorado shop selling, which it has not. Shop has had a couple offers and a lot of tire kickers. I believe it will sell or I’ll lease it out if it doesn’t by end of the year.
The contract on the lot expired. I told my realtor (at the time, he was fired today) a day before old contract ran out if they wanted to lock it in for same money I was ok doing that up to the end of September. I clearly stated several times if the contract lapses & they try to find another buyer and cannot then I am no longer at the prior price. I will be at a lower number. My realtor who was not working in my best interest told me to give the seller grace and they needed time to think. At that point I said ok and stepped back and waited. The sellers took over a week out of contract then came back and wanted to lock it in until end of September at prior price. I told them no, I walked away. Today I called up and let the realtor go.
Post by: wyorunner on August 09, 2023, 08:03:33 PM
I look forward to seeing how it works out, I personally believe it will work out in your favor because housing market, like most other things, is looking bleak. But maybe not there.
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Post by: stlaser on August 09, 2023, 09:44:43 PM
I should also mention my middle daughter Shelby. Full time junior student at MSU @ Bozeman (criminal psychology), manages coffee shop just off campus for a Christian married couple, started jewelry business early this year, nanny’s several times a month for friends kids, does kids ministry at church on weekends (which she is stopping once school starts) & is getting her Montana Realtors license. Recently dating a welder of all things, smh…..
Post by: Flyin6 on August 10, 2023, 08:40:43 AM
I have a great realtor in Indiana still, been using her 20 years now. I have a great realtor in Colorado, 8 years strong. I now hopefully have a great realtor in Montana. Sometimes it takes a bit to get a great one.OH NO!
I should also mention my middle daughter Shelby. Full time junior student at MSU @ Bozeman (criminal psychology), manages coffee shop just off campus for a Christian married couple, started jewelry business early this year, nanny’s several times a month for friends kids, does kids ministry at church on weekends (which she is stopping once school starts) & is getting her Montana Realtors license. Recently dating a welder of all things, smh…..
She's the one I wanted my Chris to marry!
That is after he finishes Basic training, 14 FTXs in the 101st, Air Assault School, Basic Leadership development course, Airborne school, Ranger school, Sniper training, Ranger assessment, three years in the 75th Ranger regiment, SF assessment, SF O&I, Weapons school, Language school, finish 7-8 deployments to wherever, gets his "special school" completed, fights a campaign or two with the Alien invaders, builds his house, and takes a leave. After that, he's ready!
Hope she is still around and hasn't settled on anyone by then!
;-)
Post by: Atkinsmatt on August 10, 2023, 08:52:25 AM
Post by: stlaser on August 10, 2023, 09:36:26 AM
Now that is a long range plan.
&…… this started like 6-8 years ago! :knucklehead:
With that stated, she’s not boy crazy and pretty focused on “life” so maybe she won’t be married by then idk. Her older sister is getting married in October, I’ll have one down & two to go.
Post by: Flyin6 on August 10, 2023, 01:45:03 PM
I remember!Now that is a long range plan.
&…… this started like 6-8 years ago! :knucklehead:
With that stated, she’s not boy crazy and pretty focused on “life” so maybe she won’t be married by then idk. Her older sister is getting married in October, I’ll have one down & two to go.
Chris had just won a wrestling tournament and I think it was Shelby just won a Cheer tournament. We were texting and swapping pics of our kids...
Post by: stlaser on August 10, 2023, 02:35:42 PM
Post by: Flyin6 on August 12, 2023, 07:19:08 PM
Correct, Shelby’s team won state:likebutton: :likebutton:
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Additional framing of garage door frames complete with exception of some 5” screws and tapcons along with an 8’ long 2x8 I need to acquire yet.
So the back story on this. When we decided we were going to have a 2’ tall rat wall I looked long and hard at the overhead door on my existing garage. Then I proceeded to make openings for overheads 3” wider than the door size (garage doors you frame to actual door size, so if you have a 10’x10’ overhead door the rough framing is 10’x10’).
Fast forward to last week. Talking to installer and he stated (which I think is a lie) that I needed to frame the door opening to the inside of the rat wall. He needed 2x6 from floor to lid, a 2x4 across top of door and a 2x8 center of door above it to the lid. In this conversation he did mention some contractors cut the concrete back. In hindsight imo that is the better and less expensive option although I had all material on site as left overs with the exception of the above materials. I personally do not like and especially in my steel shop the garage door sitting proud to the interior space. Had I cut the concrete the door would have set recessed from concrete wall and been better protected.
So there you have it, make note if ever building a shop with high rat walls. In the future I will have concrete guy block it out inside his forms when pouring. Now I will need custom facia for that 10”+ wide opening around the door frame.
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Post by: stlaser on August 15, 2023, 06:12:43 PM
Well, we found the line going to the cabin……
We were extremely lucky. First this conduit needs cut in this exact spot. Second, the neutral wire only has a couple nicks in the coating. It did not get into the strands or damage either of the hot legs.
Long story short, per specifications from utility this was supposed to be in a 2” conduit not 3” and we had located a 2” (fiber line) conduit on opposite side of trench about 10” deeper and assumed that was our power line. So we were digging 10-12” higher than fiber with mini when we hit this. Two lines in same trench and we were told that the fiber was supposedly under the power. Anyhow, we were lucky today and I should go buy a lottery ticket now.
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Post by: Bob Smith on August 15, 2023, 06:30:52 PM
I have a patched up phone/tv line That was in the way when we ran power trench to the shop. I still need to dig it up and fix it properly but it is working fine so why mess with it.
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Post by: TexasRedNeck on August 15, 2023, 08:23:59 PM
Nice save Shawn.
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Post by: stlaser on August 15, 2023, 09:05:24 PM
Thanks Charles
Post by: Bigdave_185 on August 15, 2023, 11:31:28 PM
I did stick a 1/2” drill bit into the middle of all three of those cables coming into the house when I lived in Tooele. It started a fire, toasted my dewalt drill, scared the chit out of me. And finaly killed the house breaker outside. The neighbor power guy helped me patch it all up after I used a hammer saw to rip the wall out.
I put a cabinet over the hole and a note on the back of the inside of the cabinet lol
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Post by: Flyin6 on August 16, 2023, 09:45:06 AM
I burned my ornamental grass back one year.
A combustible plastic cover in that bed covered The utilities.
It lit right off and melted down into a little pool of flaming plastic.
In that pool were the 440 lines tuning into the box that made 220 to the house.
I tried to fight the fire (Mistake)
I stuck a rake into the molten goo...The thought was to drag it out of the hole and extinguish the fire.
The tines of the rake hit the now bare power lines.
The rake instantly blew apart, like as in the thing exploded. The tines evaporated and I felt the power of that amperage as it blew that rake apart.
The power company was ticked at me...
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Random framing & hung header for rear roof section. The entry door and 5 windows showed up from HD. Hauling pitrun again in the morning. We currently have a 1pm shutdown time on operating equipment with the heat and dry going on. Smoke rolled back in today from the boys up north.
Will most likely finish hanging osb and maybe install that entry door in the afternoon tomorrow.
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Post by: stlaser on August 17, 2023, 09:30:31 PM
I hauled more pitrun this morning, need 2-3 more 5 yard loads to finish the base. Then several loads of crushed to top it off but it’s very close to being useable now. In fact any of our vehicles can easily navigate the new exit/entrance. Then this afternoon I closed in the east end and house wrapped it.
Garage doors are waiting on a different side mount opener.
Roof steel was delivered this morning, they will be here to install at 0700 tomorrow morning. Then it should truly be dried in with tin.
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Post by: stlaser on August 18, 2023, 06:47:37 PM
U-shaped driveway almost ready for crushed stone.
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Post by: stlaser on August 30, 2023, 08:42:00 PM
Back from the second to last trip to Colorado. Hung the j channel around the perimeter of the high bay area of the shop and was able to hang one run across. Currently have 1/3rd of it hung.
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Then returned the scissor lift this evening
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Post by: stlaser on August 31, 2023, 10:18:19 PM
Speaking of which next Thursday is the big day for the service upgrade to the 400 amp pedestal.
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Post by: stlaser on September 03, 2023, 12:01:19 AM
So above are two colors available as batten board steel siding. We’ve decide the color on the left. Broken up by a black wainscoting and a couple other black accents however this will make up the bulk of the exterior.
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Post by: Flyin6 on September 03, 2023, 11:17:02 AM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230903/5842db36a0dc0e7996226b0e11371a60.jpg)Correct choice for sure given the location and what you see all around
So above are two colors available as batten board steel siding. We’ve decide the color on the left. Broken up by a black wainscoting and a couple other black accents however this will make up the bulk of the exterior.
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Now if you were in the Tuck, then the right panel would be the appropriate choice to match the double wide paneled over trailer next door 8-0
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Hauled in two more loads of base and five loads of 1”- crushed this morning (yes on Labor Day). I still need quite a bit more but at least the u-shaped driveway is accessible now.
I then proceeded to spreading it all. In the process I cut back the original entrance not quite doubling the original width. In all I should easily be able to access the property now with trailers. The package delivery drivers will be grateful too.
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Shop got a walk-in door hung and five windows cut open. Gotta see if I have enough of that tape to go under the windows then nail them in place tomorrow.
I ordered the 3’ of wainscot for the building. May go with a different manufacturer on the board and batten siding, better warranty, thicker material & company has been in business since b4 dirt (pretty sure that’s older than Don even?)
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Post by: hammer7896 on September 06, 2023, 08:59:16 PM
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That’s a really good idea, wish I had come across that tip before I installed 4 out of 5 windows with 1.5” roof nails.
Ran about 30” shy of having enough butyl tape to go under windows. So now I get to lay down another $50 for a roll I mostly don’t need!
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Post by: Bigdave_185 on September 07, 2023, 12:49:05 AM
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Post by: stlaser on September 07, 2023, 09:19:32 AM
Post by: Bigdave_185 on September 07, 2023, 04:15:20 PM
Also works as booby trap for the HOA president, peal it and wrap around his head?
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Post by: stlaser on September 07, 2023, 07:42:19 PM
Make shift scaffolding over the trench.
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Cabin is now on power from the new meter pedestal.
Utility brought wire that was a foot to short this morning. They had a two hour break to go back to shop and get a longer run of it.
This allowed us to finish up the pvc from the new 200 amp disconnect to the cabin while they were away. They returned and did their part and we had power again.
Trencher attachment rented for next Tuesday for skid loader. I went and grabbed more 2” pvc for the 25’ run to the shop internal panel. Big shop will have power soon.
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Post by: rpar86 on September 07, 2023, 08:48:04 PM
Post by: stlaser on September 07, 2023, 08:52:23 PM
How many 90*s have you got on that pvc? Gotta be almost impossible to snake the wire.
Four from transformer to 400 amp meter box which according to my former lineman neighbor is max. It pulled fine though, bigger issue was how close they were together I think.
We should only have two from shop to 200 amp disconnect.
Now you have me thinking about when we used to pull big 3 phase wire in the steel shops half hitching it on the forklift and raising mast up to pull the wire. This was a walk in the park in comparison and I’m much older…..
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Post by: stlaser on September 08, 2023, 09:09:16 AM
Post by: TexasRedNeck on September 09, 2023, 12:04:42 PM
I shall resist on your window installation…..
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Post by: stlaser on September 09, 2023, 10:24:15 PM
You know the risk of posting build photos…someone is going to tell you how you should have done something different…
I shall resist on your window installation…..
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Probably a good idea. I’m of the old school when we didn’t have all this fancy tape and house wrap chit to deal with. We just stuck them in back in the day and spray foamed them. Now it’s house wrap, butyl tape, install window, seal with tyvek tape and spray foam. I’m sure your way is better anyhow.
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Post by: stlaser on September 12, 2023, 10:23:40 PM
Rented a trencher, excuse me pos trencher attachment. Obviously missing the auger, teeth were worn to the point it wouldn’t pull an 6-7” diameter rock from the trench. So it got some further abuse.
It was slow going & I guess I forgot most of the pictures however the conduit is now in from 200 amp disconnect at new pedestal to the shop. The conduit for propane line under a driveway area is installed and trench is still open where new tank will sit and at the shop to run the gas line.
At the house I was able to trench in a 4” tile across front of cabin area. This will help with all the snow that gets dumped there in the winter. The whole front area of cabin (parking area) needs dug out still. Then place mat, base and gravel until I muster funds for concrete. In the rear of the cabin i dig a trench to bury a line for a couple of lights out at wood shed. They will be dusk to dawn auto on & off. This will help illuminate the back wooded area behind the cabin.
At the neighbors we trenched in 3 water lines to finish up his garden area. I was paid with a loaf of sourdough and quite happy with that transaction!
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Going down & over the hill. Kinda like Ken & H! Yup, surely going to hell for that one….
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Just a picture for a visual to remember where I buried that tile when I dig out this front area.
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Post by: stlaser on September 12, 2023, 11:25:41 PM
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Post by: stlaser on September 12, 2023, 11:48:15 PM
So at the farm in Indiana I stored an older ditch witch ride on trencher for my father in law for a couple years. It was a larger unit and pretty sure had a 5’ digging arm on it. It was a beast, thing would trench thru just about anything. But it was also maintained well unlike that pos above. So hard to compare apples to oranges.
Post by: stlaser on September 18, 2023, 10:24:45 PM
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Spent a long weekend in Bozeman with all three of the kids. Hooked up fifth wheel and pulled it down there. First time we’ve had the whole family together in about a year and a half. Next month is the oldest daughters wedding & then we get everyone together for Christmas.
So today was garage door installation day, finally. I picked up the wainscoting steel this morning and ordered garage door trim pieces along with the soffit and facia pieces. Should see those in about a week.
Ran to Ponderay, ID this afternoon and got sidetracked by Ken’s buddy in Clark Fork. Guy must have had a quota to fill as he was hot on a second truck as we can back thru this evening.
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On the way over I stopped at Trout Creek Truss which is near Noxon, MT not Trout Creek and picked up my treated columns for the rear rv lean to. No pics of those but they’re now in the shop along with perma columns.
While in Ponderay I picked up my newly cleaned upper oil pan for the 6.7L from M & S Engine Works. They don’t advertise it but he will machine diesels too. Older guy, seems very knowledgeable on just about anything motor related. FYI Ken…..
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Post by: JR on September 18, 2023, 10:47:00 PM
Did you see this thread? http://real-man-truckworks-and-survival.com/index.php?topic=5344.new#new
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Post by: TexasRedNeck on September 18, 2023, 11:13:31 PM
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Post by: stlaser on September 18, 2023, 11:30:38 PM
Must have been the Biden sticker that made him pull you over….
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Well, ya know that’s Ken’s area and he wouldn’t be anywhere that isn’t fond of H and the Democrats. I’m thinking the lack of Biden sticker was the issue.
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Post by: stlaser on September 19, 2023, 12:23:45 AM
But officer…” I identify as someone who was driving the speed limit..”
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Meh, it was more like….
Officer: Do you know why I pulled you over?
Me: I do
Officer: Why were you speeding?
Me: H scares me and I hear she hangs out here with Ken…..
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Post by: stlaser on September 20, 2023, 09:22:36 PM
Started the day pulling wire to the shop, yes grounds are important….
Then my radiant tube heater or parts of it arrived. So after a six week wait in a little irritated they couldn’t spend $100 on packaging to ship a $2k+ heater…..
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This picture ^^^^^ is from south & east portion of our property
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Next up is a plug in big shop for welder and start moving some stuff out of garage and to the shop, mainly excess building material and the dirt bikes to make some room in garage.
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The better half and I started this morning de-weeding this area. The in-ground propane tank “hood cover” was originally installed incorrectly and pushing up against the shut off valve. So it was dug up and set correctly then I back filled the exterior of it in pea gravel.
Next we brought in more fill and leveled then seeded & fertilized this back area. It will eventually get two sections of fence in an L-shape to semi secure this back area between east side of cabin and the south side of machine shop for the two little dogs to do their business.
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The wife then proceeded to stain the new horizontal slats on the wood shed. I’ll put a second coat on them tomorrow. Then I need to install roof supports between the two and roofing steel. Hang a couple lights (ran underground to it when I had trencher) & call it done.
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This fill is what was left of the roughly four truckloads we were given for free back in the spring. I need to rake it in and let it settle for a month or so. We have a truckload of good top soil I need to try and lay in before winter. Plan is to fence that area for a garden in the spring.
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Then started prepping to install this vented lp wall heater in the low bay area. I laminated two pieces of this drop of 1/2” plywood together. I’ll hang it on the inside of the wall and cut a square hole for the heat shield & intake / exhaust to go thru to the outer wall. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230925/6d4686be110cfbacc4d61283b2042345.jpg)
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Finished day assembling treated laminated posts to the perma column bases for the back rv lean to.
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I started finishing the door surrounds for the overhead doors on the big shop. The small door is finished along with the door seals hung. I rented a man lift and that showed up late today. Going to get all the soffit and facia hung over next several days.
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In case any of you were wondering if I was ever going to finish sheeting and wrapping the shop. Well, today was the day. While I had the man lift I taped all the wrap seams with tyvek tape. Lift goes back now and I only need to finish soffit and facia on north end which the lower I can do off a ladder and the upper from the lower roof deck.
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It was a Montana campfire kinda evening. Open burning now thru end of November.
Last of the old dried out stumps being burnt. I had taken a load prior to the dump. They tried to charge me $40 as they were too big and not rotten. On a separate prior occasion had told me as long as they were dry (mine were out of ground at least 4 years I estimate) there would be no charge.
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Post by: stlaser on October 09, 2023, 10:28:25 PM
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3 cords of seasoned tamarack, yeah I forgot to inflate the bags…
Other than that I’ve been working on the north side upper soffit and facia over the weekend. The lower steel roof which is covered with gravel road dirt made it interesting. I finished up the facia this afternoon. Bored some 2” holes in the bird blocking in preparation for ceiling and the soffit and facia that will go up by weeks end.
Hauled crushed for driveway over the weekend, skid steer threw a code. Warranty tech who fixed it today said it’s a common issue (10# of chit in 5# box) where the hydraulic hoses pull a cable connector apart in the arm. He adjusted how cables lay in there and secured the connection out of the way a bit. Should be gtg now.
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Post by: JR on October 09, 2023, 10:58:22 PM
Its all little stuff now since you are dried in!
Post by: Sammconn on October 10, 2023, 09:28:42 PM
IT BURNS HOT!
In case you weren’t aware.
Man you’re still givin ‘er.
Great progress and drive.
Glad to see a fire. Means you’ve taken some well deserved “me time”!
Post by: stlaser on October 10, 2023, 09:37:26 PM
We have a wedding in less than two weeks. Just trying to get a few things accomplished here yet. I’m sure it will be here when we return.
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Replacement heater showed up today, slightly better than first unit. The small box was actually intact and unopened! The big box not so much, they still can’t figure out how to strap them to a skid….
Insurance inspector is due out Thursday morning. He needs to look at first shipment. I turned in a claim on this second shipment as well as from what I can see there is some damage. Unknown if missing parts yet.
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Post by: TexasRedNeck on October 11, 2023, 06:40:32 PM
Happy to point you to parts I used to build my own.
Bonus is having a Milton coupler at the hitch to use to run tools
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Post by: stlaser on October 11, 2023, 08:04:20 PM
Sean, make the leap to onboard air. A compressor, 5 gal tank and a few solenoids and you can air up and down with the push of a button from the cab.
Happy to point you to parts I used to build my own.
Bonus is having a Milton coupler at the hitch to use to run tools
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Charles, while I agree & should probably bite the bullet it’s not gunna happen for some time. Too many irons in the fire and already own that 12v portable unit.
I bought the better half a new kitchen stove, we had looked at it several weeks ago on clearance. High end almost $5k stove for about 65% off. I called last night and they still had it (because it’s ford red!) and so that just opened up a can of worms. New countertops and back splash now too……..
Post by: stlaser on October 11, 2023, 10:00:21 PM
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Post by: Flyin6 on October 12, 2023, 04:32:34 PM
Pistol: Good idea!
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Dropped in another culvert back in behind the cabin. Giving myself access to the wood shed year around and this drive will hopefully lead to back parking and a carport / cabin addition in a few years.
On another note, soffit and facia complete with exception of two small trim pieces I need to cut from facia. I had just enough facia to cover and none extra for trim pieces.
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Post by: stlaser on October 22, 2023, 11:15:19 AM
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Big day today, hoping for zero drama…..
Guy in bottom pic is middle daughters bf, literally started dancing with her in kitchen at rehearsal dinner w/o music. The wife was enthralled, I just shook my head. Typical young welder w/o a serious bone in his body. Speaking from experience that’s Trouble.
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Post by: stlaser on October 26, 2023, 10:12:57 PM
Then I worked on organizing the machine shop. Plan is since it’s spray foamed and climate controlled with mini split is to store all my laser cut parts in there along with axle components. In another year I’ll move some of those to the low bay portion of the big shop but until then the machine shop will be a little cramped for space.
Third radiant tube heater shipped today. I offered to let them refund half the cost and I’d take the two damaged ones and make a good one. They didn’t like that and wanted to ship another that the freight company will most likely damage as the packaging is a joke.
The tmg industrial 94” snow blade showed up at freight terminal in Spokane today. I shipped a crate from Colorado up and it’s due in tomorrow with any luck. So Monday I’ll go grab both.
Post by: stlaser on October 26, 2023, 10:19:11 PM
Weds night was first frost of the year for us, so it was that time again.
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Post by: oklawall on October 27, 2023, 11:28:53 AM
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Weds night was first frost of the year for us, so it was that time again.
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Post by: stlaser on October 27, 2023, 11:40:39 AM
Post by: oklawall on October 27, 2023, 11:45:10 AM
I’m sorry & unfortunately can relate. My better half after evacuating Vista Adventist Hospital during the Marshall Fire ended up with PTSD from the event. Everything from thunder cracking to smoke and fire was a trigger. Her’s is considerably better now, I pray his does the same.Thank you
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Post by: stlaser on November 01, 2023, 08:29:16 PM
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Well, back at it again today. Quite a bit of rain forecast over next ten days however no freezing temps it appears.
I broke out the auger and tried my best to bore holes in the correct spot. I’m batting .333 in that regards as two of the holes for the perma columns are off to a side hard. However, the columns are plumb and in the correct spot. I hand mixed five of the 60# bags of crete per hole. As of the end of today I have 3 of the 5 columns set for the rear rv lean to.
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Post by: JR on November 01, 2023, 09:27:30 PM
Go!!
Post by: stlaser on November 03, 2023, 02:20:20 PM
State of shop build today, all 5 posts set. I don’t recommend doing those by yourself.
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Insurance company needed pictures to verify they were actually insuring a shop I guess.
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Post by: stlaser on November 09, 2023, 08:20:50 PM
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In preparation for setting propane tank early next week I decided to get the wainscoting up where the gas line will be coming into the shop (top pic, front left corner of building). There will also be a wall heater exhaust and intake in the area for the lower ceiling shop area. In order to get tank filled, the propane company has to have a working appliance hooked up to the tank in order to check line for leaks due to liability issues.
Once I started I just kept at it. Temps were right at freezing all day and overcast w/o rain.
In all this metal goes up fairly quick with the exception of pulling the clear wrap from all the trim pieces. If you haven’t had this joy in your life I highly suggest you try it.
Down side is it tripes the install time. Mental note to myself to use another supplier next time who doesn’t do this painful wrapping.
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Post by: JR on November 09, 2023, 08:42:49 PM
I think they all use the coating to keep it from maring in the forming process.
Post by: stlaser on November 09, 2023, 08:45:40 PM
My head is spinning, slow down!!
I think they all use the coating to keep it from maring in the forming process.
Nope, there’s a company out of Bonners ferry I’ve used and they do not use it but they do add a lot more paper packaging material between the pieces for shipment and they wrap the exterior of the bundles better.
Post by: Flyin6 on November 10, 2023, 10:14:06 AM
I was wondering, do you have a place for a mantle? I'm about to get that new saw of mine spinning. Would love to cut you a piece of Cedar from my farm for you to nail up somewhere...
Post by: stlaser on November 10, 2023, 10:33:34 AM
You haven't pulled any wire yet, have you?
I was wondering, do you have a place for a mantle? I'm about to get that new saw of mine spinning. Would love to cut you a piece of Cedar from my farm for you to nail up somewhere...
Yes sir, quite a bit actually. Lights and some outlets. Need to finish unloading big trailer to get it out of the way. I’m going to have to unhook the service to put up wainscoting and drill hole for the LB connector in fact.
No place atm unfortunately, addition planned in next 5 years so maybe then?
Post by: Flyin6 on November 10, 2023, 11:46:20 AM
OK, give ya a rain check.You haven't pulled any wire yet, have you?
I was wondering, do you have a place for a mantle? I'm about to get that new saw of mine spinning. Would love to cut you a piece of Cedar from my farm for you to nail up somewhere...
Yes sir, quite a bit actually. Lights and some outlets. Need to finish unloading big trailer to get it out of the way. I’m going to have to unhook the service to put up wainscoting and drill hole for the LB connector in fact.
No place atm unfortunately, addition planned in next 5 years so maybe then?
Post by: stlaser on November 10, 2023, 12:23:24 PM
Post by: stlaser on December 01, 2023, 05:05:37 PM
Winter showed up this morning with about 1 1/2” of the white stuff. Forecast shows 3-5 tomorrow. Figured I should add quick connect fittings to the snow plow, set the spring back rubber bumpers from shipping position to work position and then set the feet. Should be gtg now. Probably won’t get anymore snow rest of the winter now that I’m ready.
I have some old commercial rubber belting and going to cut a piece to add as a snow deflector and bolt on up top of the blade at some point.
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Post by: Bob Smith on December 01, 2023, 08:38:21 PM
Post by: stlaser on December 01, 2023, 08:47:23 PM
After all these years of snow blowing up over the top of the plow one would think the companies would build them with the deflector installed.
Right! Or offer the rubber cut to bolt on as an option when you buy the plow…..
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Few pics of mezzanine framing. Need to block under each I joist at the wall. Used Simpson joist hangers at opposite end.
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Post by: Flyin6 on December 05, 2023, 08:02:39 PM
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Few pics of mezzanine framing. Need to block under each I joist at the wall. Used Simpson joist hangers at opposite end.
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Post by: JR on December 05, 2023, 09:51:55 PM
Post by: stlaser on December 05, 2023, 10:45:52 PM
For the air compressor array?
The big compressor & storage tank will go up on top next to the axle rack. The rest is for misc storage. I need to deck it yet, hoping to maybe do that this Thursday. Hauling more pit run tomorrow, it warmed up yesterday and rain set in. Supposed to rain until Friday or Saturday and turn cold and snow again.
Post by: stlaser on December 15, 2023, 10:45:42 PM
Well, it ain’t gunna split itself…..
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Post by: Flyin6 on December 16, 2023, 10:51:16 AM
Wanna help on my slabs of red oak? :-)
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Post by: Bob Smith on December 16, 2023, 04:55:15 PM
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Well, it ain’t gunna split itself…..
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Since you now have a bit larger firebox stove your splitting project should not be as large.
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Post by: JR on January 04, 2024, 09:35:29 PM
Post by: stlaser on January 05, 2024, 11:55:03 AM
No thats a teaser.
I just looked, it was delivered in November of 21….. :tongue:
Post by: stlaser on January 05, 2024, 04:03:56 PM
Little more progress before getting pulled away again.
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Post by: JR on January 05, 2024, 07:36:38 PM
Little more progress before getting pulled away again.
Story of my life. What plasma you going to use?
Post by: stlaser on January 05, 2024, 07:51:42 PM
Little more progress before getting pulled away again.
Story of my life. What plasma you going to use?
I have a hypertherm
Post by: JR on January 05, 2024, 08:26:34 PM
Dang brand names are so crazy now!
Post by: Flyin6 on January 05, 2024, 08:58:11 PM
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Post by: Sammconn on January 06, 2024, 10:12:50 AM
I bought a Yeswelder pro55 that is supposed to be non HF start, should work with my Arcdroid, about to test.
Dang brand names are so crazy now!
I think that’s the one I got for my table also.
It cut 1/4” like butter.
Time will tell if it was 200 wasted bucks or good enough for me.
Shawn, this looks a lot like the ND’s garage unit I’m building.
It’s actually how I was thinking of modding it to have both ends of the x axis supported.
They clearly copied it to some degree…well there’s really only so many options to build it also.
Post by: JR on January 06, 2024, 11:17:02 AM
Great strides on the whole compound build, table is icing and should help with the biz.
Post by: stlaser on January 06, 2024, 05:14:37 PM
I bought a Yeswelder pro55 that is supposed to be non HF start, should work with my Arcdroid, about to test.
Dang brand names are so crazy now!
I think that’s the one I got for my table also.
It cut 1/4” like butter.
Time will tell if it was 200 wasted bucks or good enough for me.
Shawn, this looks a lot like the ND’s garage unit I’m building.
It’s actually how I was thinking of modding it to have both ends of the x axis supported.
They clearly copied it to some degree…well there’s really only so many options to build it also.
ND’s? Got a link I’m not familiar?
Post by: stlaser on January 06, 2024, 05:15:35 PM
My YW was like $120, hard to say no. I have a cutmaster 42 for general use and could swap.
Great strides on the whole compound build, table is icing and should help with the biz.
Thanks it’s coming slowly.
Post by: Sammconn on January 06, 2024, 09:30:43 PM
I bought a Yeswelder pro55 that is supposed to be non HF start, should work with my Arcdroid, about to test.
Dang brand names are so crazy now!
I think that’s the one I got for my table also.
It cut 1/4” like butter.
Time will tell if it was 200 wasted bucks or good enough for me.
Shawn, this looks a lot like the ND’s garage unit I’m building.
It’s actually how I was thinking of modding it to have both ends of the x axis supported.
They clearly copied it to some degree…well there’s really only so many options to build it also.
ND’s? Got a link I’m not familiar?
Shoot. Fat finger got me.
JD’s garage.
https://jdsgarage.bigcartel.com/
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One of my neighbors met a tragic end, here kitty kitty….
We do have one in the vicinity as we've come across tracks and scat on our walks / runs several times recently.
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Post by: stlaser on March 17, 2024, 04:28:47 PM
Not a lot to report, it’s been cold and I’ve been busy with axle building. We finally received a 4 day stretch with high 50’s and low 60’s.
I’ve been playing musical chairs with shop items. For the most part moving them up out of the way into the mezzanine I built last fall. I’ve setup the 2 post and jib crane.
Then proceeded to move items out of low bay section. Mainly so I can start to finish the 12’ tall ceiling in here.
Somewhere along the way I ended up with 4 extra 20’ I joists. This front corner is where the bathroom is roughed at and needs framed. In order to make best use of materials I cut the I joists to 150” and created what will be the ceiling for facilities along with a 3’ tall area that is roughly 12’ x 6’ for more storage. Win win….
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Post by: stlaser on March 17, 2024, 04:36:27 PM
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Post by: JR on March 17, 2024, 04:57:00 PM
The jib and the 2 post is a huge gain alone. Having the extra I joist works too. Pics?
I just scored my #5 rebar, that stuff is pricey retail.
Post by: stlaser on March 17, 2024, 09:37:21 PM
What do you want pics of JR? The joists are up in the pic I posted and the two post and jib being erected are in an older post.
Post by: stlaser on March 17, 2024, 09:40:38 PM
Lazy Sunday, cutting various pieces for several projects.
Below are two well used acorn tables 5’ sq I picked up last fall. I need to fix a couple cracks and then have them Blanchard Ground to same thickness. Currently about .120 difference in height.
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Post by: JR on March 17, 2024, 11:13:08 PM
Is the plasma up and running? Still clearing a spot for my droid.
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Started framing water closet, doing a half wall on outside walls to get some insulation between concrete and drain and water line. I’d have preferred the waterline be in the wall but concrete guys screwed that up. I’ll hide it best I can under slop sink. Room will get cadet wall heater, fart fan along with toilet, waterless urinal and the slop sink.
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Post by: stlaser on March 22, 2024, 09:11:26 PM
Water closet framed, moving to the low bay ceiling now.
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Post by: JR on March 22, 2024, 09:43:35 PM
Talking about bathrooms. I just got a "full size/height" rv toilet for my toy hauler.
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Post by: stlaser on April 06, 2024, 05:27:40 PM
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Picked up this lightly used Burr King 562 yesterday. It’s smaller than I wanted but couldn’t beat the price. I’ve been searching for one for twenty years and always didn’t want to pay the price they were asking or missed out on them to someone quicker. It really hasn’t been used and is about 30 years old, little tlc and it should clean up just fine.
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Post by: JR on April 06, 2024, 05:44:04 PM
Post by: stlaser on April 06, 2024, 07:04:02 PM
Nice, I have been looking for a 2x72 for some time now.
I have all the parts to build one, the burr kings we ran in the shop were 2 x 72 just can’t stomach the price every time I see one for sale.
Post by: JR on April 06, 2024, 07:07:38 PM
You know what I use all the time is the material lift. Just loaded several items on the trailer with it. Even taking the big one up to the ridge tomorrow. (weather might hold for 12 hours)