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« Reply #650 on: February 09, 2018, 04:09:31 PM »
Tate, you forgot to mark SD parked over to the right there,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Don, know whats in a woman's mind?  :facepalm:

Is this from the hospital? On meds?
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« Reply #651 on: February 09, 2018, 05:42:49 PM »
:popcorn

mistakes abound.  I assure you the pool, guest house and outdoor kitchen, when finished, will have cost more than the main house.....

Oh and not even a rocket scientist can decipher the mind of a woman....
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« Reply #652 on: February 09, 2018, 06:24:16 PM »
Here are some pics the wife sent.





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« Reply #653 on: February 09, 2018, 06:25:38 PM »
:popcorn

mistakes abound.  I assure you the pool, guest house and outdoor kitchen, when finished, will have cost more than the main house.....

Oh and not even a rocket scientist can decipher the mind of a woman....

Ah I believe we have one of those; Phil? any comment?
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« Reply #654 on: February 09, 2018, 11:42:16 PM »
Who is the ?salt lake city kid??

I feel hurt.    I wouldn?t drive to Texas to swim a pool full of Lilly pads and a duck blind.  A little to redneck for my type


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« Reply #655 on: February 10, 2018, 01:45:33 PM »





Today I ran a temporary satellite cable to restore tv. Then started clearing the porches in advance of the flatwork.  Empty shipping container came in handy. Also straightened up the shop a bit and am either going to hang some hardie or work inside on the electrical at the casita.


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« Reply #656 on: February 10, 2018, 02:39:16 PM »
Tate, you forgot to mark SD parked over to the right there,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Don, know whats in a woman's mind?  :facepalm:

Is this from the hospital? On meds?
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« Reply #657 on: February 10, 2018, 05:49:28 PM »
Just some input for ya is all. We all want to see SD run!

TRN, whens the pool party?
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« Reply #658 on: February 10, 2018, 07:46:24 PM »
About mid March me thinks


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« Reply #659 on: February 10, 2018, 07:49:52 PM »
Went back to hanging a little hardie and got the 100 amp sub panel hung and hole cut to the inside of the house to run romex.  Silicone sealed around the conduit running inside the house and across the top of the panel where it meets the house.




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« Reply #660 on: February 10, 2018, 10:03:58 PM »
What colors are you planing on putting on the exterior? Your getting close to finish paint the exterior


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« Reply #661 on: February 10, 2018, 11:21:41 PM »
I wish I had dirt like that at my place.
Those guys sure kicked butt on that pool. Nice design.

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« Reply #662 on: February 10, 2018, 11:27:46 PM »
Wish I was moving as fast as you. This DIY really slows you down sometimes.
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« Reply #663 on: February 11, 2018, 09:59:35 AM »
Looking good Charles, what's the finish plan for the interior surface of the pool, tile?
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« Reply #664 on: February 11, 2018, 10:11:50 AM »
Thanks guys. Really starting to take shape.  Boss lady is still debating exterior color. It will match the house. The question is whether I get to paint both the house and casita or just the casita to match the current color on the house.  She wants to wait until the pool is in to see the color of the flagstone to make that call.

Pool will be pebble sheen finish. She?s still debating the color on that and has to make a decision in the next week or so.  She likes the dark colors but since the pool is shallow she is concerned about it being too hot.

Ken that ?dirt? is pure red clay. Good thing is there aren?t any real rocks to contend with.

Temp is 30 degrees cooler than yesterday and the wind is blowing.  Looks like I?ll wire some circuits indoors today


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« Reply #665 on: February 11, 2018, 11:49:50 AM »
For the color, you have to do some planning. First find the color you really want (but don't tell her). Then start looking at camo designs.....leave brochures around with pictures. Then say you made your decision and tell her that as this is a bug out place you want to keep everything hush hush and quiet so you then show her the camo design so that it won't easily be seen from the air. After she calms down say "well we could do this color....." (the one you wanted to begin with). She'll be do happy you're not going with a camo design she'll say yes.

Lemme know how that works out. Haha.

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« Reply #666 on: February 11, 2018, 06:22:06 PM »
Thanks Wilbur, I didn't want to take the #666 post. :)
Tex, the dirt at my place, and my brother's which is were I'm working now, is straight up powder. It won't compact, nor absorb water. Really difficult to work with... actually extremely difficult, and it goes down between 3 and 6 feet before hitting Az clay/concrete. Not sure if Tex red clay is better, but it looks nice. Lol

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« Reply #667 on: February 11, 2018, 10:35:54 PM »
Had to pave the way for ya Ken! ;)

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« Reply #668 on: February 12, 2018, 12:15:05 AM »
You got it anyway. Must be the common core.
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« Reply #669 on: February 12, 2018, 08:16:50 AM »
Well, worked on some wiring yesterday.  Stupid cold and humid yesterday.  The thing about Texas cold is near freezing and 70% humidity and a light wind.....I'd rather it be 20 and no humidity and no wind.

I've run electrical many times but this is the first time that I've had to plan circuits and execute from scratch.  Keep getting into analysis paralysis, but as with most things it will be over engineered.  Electrical is where I am most critical of builders not planning ahead like location of swithes, 3 way circuits, planning for undercabinet lighting, floor recepticles, etc.  If I miss one I'll kick myself forever. 

Keeping to NEC code standards is pretty complicated and not always common sense.  Bathroom has to have a dedicated 20amp GFCI, but can power other bathrooms, but not any fixtures outside the bathroom, but can't power other bathrooms if you put the bathrooms lighting fixtures on it and then the fixtures can only be a certain wattage....

Plus you have to have a dedicated circuit for the refrigerator....plus a 120v outlet within 25ft of the AC unit not downstream of equipment cut off. 

Yadi yadi yadi.....

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« Reply #670 on: February 12, 2018, 08:51:50 AM »
Good luck but i think youre smart to plan it all out before you start pulling any wire. Do you have a friend you can send them to for a check to make sure you haven't missed anything?

I don't get what some places do so diagrams can be key. My FIL had tripped a GFCI on an outside outlet in his mfd house. None of the outside outlets had the reset. Fortunately the paperwork provided to him included a full wiring diagram, the reset was in a wall outlet in the MBR....um what? Thank God for the diagram, but no rhyme or reason to my way of thinking. Course I'm no electrician.....and I don't play one on TV. Ha

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« Reply #671 on: February 12, 2018, 09:29:19 AM »
I?ve never planned out a whole house, plenty of single runs here or there in homes & shops. I agree I think making a diagram and planning is just the right thing to do.
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« Reply #672 on: February 12, 2018, 10:09:03 AM »
When we did out remodel I planned/ ran new wires for the hole house.  Just make it make sense when you do it really isn't that hard.  Being a smaller dwelling it shouldn't be to complicated.  For where I live and doing a remodel I didn't have to have anything inspected so I didn't need to worry to much about the odd requirements.  Just making sure everything is safe etc..  I did have a licensed electrician friend at work that I was able to run stuff past/ ask questions which was nice.

Don't try and split stuff up into to many circuits though.  They will quickly add up and fill up the box. 

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« Reply #673 on: February 12, 2018, 11:45:32 AM »
we used to have an electrical guy named Darren around here, but he hasn't been on since dec 2016......want me to reach out to him for you Charles?
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« Reply #674 on: February 12, 2018, 06:02:50 PM »
Thanks guys. No need Nate I have a EE friend with a master electrician license that I can have look at it. I have a 20/40 circuit 100 amp panel so I?m ok being somewhat conservative.  And will still have room to run the outdoor kitchen off that panel and leave room for future expansion.  I think I?ll end up around 10 circuits. 


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« Reply #675 on: February 14, 2018, 06:20:38 AM »
Not much going on this week with rain off and on all week. Some dirt work happened yesterday in prep for flatwork.  Electrical and some coping work might get done today.




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« Reply #676 on: February 14, 2018, 09:43:40 AM »
looks like that same nasty staining red dirt they got up there in south western oklahoma
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« Reply #677 on: February 14, 2018, 09:57:19 AM »
For some reason I pictured the cabin out a little more.
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« Reply #678 on: February 14, 2018, 03:29:59 PM »
Success!  Pool holds water!
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« Reply #679 on: February 14, 2018, 06:08:27 PM »
Success!  CEE-ment pond holds water!

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« Reply #680 on: February 14, 2018, 06:12:50 PM »
I can see the CTL track marks everywhere
That
s torture to me
Seeing that
Looking at my recovering knee
And knowing I own one which has never seen the first minute of dirt...

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« Reply #681 on: February 14, 2018, 06:25:59 PM »
I can see the CTL track marks everywhere
That
s torture to me
Seeing that
Looking at my recovering knee
And knowing I own one which has never seen the first minute of dirt...

Killin me...

Well, on the bright side you haven?t broke anything on it or drove over anything orange with it yet.  :popcorn:
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« Reply #682 on: February 14, 2018, 10:43:30 PM »
Ha!  Don you?ll get
Yours soon!

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« Reply #683 on: February 14, 2018, 10:51:30 PM »
For some reason I pictured the cabin out a little more.

The plan is that the casita, the outdoor kitchen and the main house will form an arc of buildings that all face the cement pond...
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« Reply #684 on: February 16, 2018, 07:02:51 AM »
Some tile work got started yesterday. 



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« Reply #685 on: February 16, 2018, 10:22:04 AM »
VERY nice tiles and stone!
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« Reply #686 on: February 16, 2018, 04:58:28 PM »
reminds me of a charred whiskey barrel, looks great.
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« Reply #687 on: February 16, 2018, 07:29:02 PM »
Here a little more progress today. I came up to smoke some pork butts for a charity event tomorrow.



Preview of final grade

Not as bad as I thought.



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« Reply #688 on: February 16, 2018, 07:51:50 PM »
How many gallons of water do you expect that to hold?  What chemical set are you going to use to keep it clean?


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« Reply #689 on: February 16, 2018, 09:32:50 PM »
You and your wife have great taste. Looks good.

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« Reply #690 on: February 16, 2018, 09:35:56 PM »
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« Reply #691 on: February 16, 2018, 09:37:55 PM »
Dave, I'm going to guess about 20,000 gallons and it is a salt water pool.

Ken its all my wife.  I can't take credit.
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« Reply #692 on: February 24, 2018, 04:14:05 PM »
Been raining pretty consistently for a week. No progress on the pool. Did get some more wiring done.  Bought a spool of #1 AL wire to run the sub panel. Rated 110 amps which will do fine for my 100amp panel.  Just need to finish the conduit but it?s a mess outside. So I?m wiring circuits indoors.

Feeder wire

Ground bars since sub panels need local ground.  Will ground locally with 8ft rod and #4 copper

NOT UL approved. Have an extension cord wired to the panel for now just so I can use the lights and outlets. Note the jumper from common to ground since I?m using the ground back at the main panel via the extension cord

There?s a lot of wire in that small kitchen. Got a wall up where the little fridge will sit.


The two orange wires are 10ga to feed dual 28gal water heaters. One in series with the other.  Will run just one unless girls have a few friends over. 


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« Reply #693 on: March 02, 2018, 12:32:58 AM »
Dried up a couple of days. Forms down for decking, fire pit and kitchen.




Should pour tomorrow and lay stone next week.


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« Reply #694 on: March 02, 2018, 07:33:19 AM »
With the water heaters.  Are you going to plumb a by-pass around the second one that will only get occasional use.  Then just turn it on and turn a couple valves when you want to use it?  Why not a tankless set-up?  I know I was advised against it for the home water heater when we were remodeling the house but it seems like it would be fine for something like this.
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« Reply #695 on: March 02, 2018, 07:47:44 AM »
Bear, no bypass.  From what I can tell, just running them in serioes (hot from the first into the cold of the second) is good enough and will allow me just to flip the breaker when I need more water.  If I ran in parallel I would need a bypass set up to isolate the non working heater when running only one.

I have tankless at the city house and I'm tired of the girls taking 45 minute showers.  This way, they learn what its like to run out of hot water so they can take a 10 minute shower.
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« Reply #696 on: March 02, 2018, 08:32:14 AM »
After a little more thought I can see how it could work.  Maybe I am interpreting what you wrote wrong, but would you want the heater that is "off" to be the first in line, and the heater that is always "on" second.  This way you are drawing cold water from the first water heater to be heated in the second, and not dumping hot water from the first water heater into the cold second one. 
I had not considered that "perk" of a standard tank water heater before.  Maybe just stick with the single heater then.  The summer we lived in a camper I was surprised how long the little 10 gallon heater would last.

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« Reply #697 on: March 02, 2018, 08:56:30 AM »
Shouldn?t that wire bed be elevated 2? or so?
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« Reply #698 on: March 02, 2018, 09:15:44 AM »
Shouldn?t that wire bed be elevated 2? or so?

It should be but on small pours such as that it?s not uncommon to drop a few piles then lift the wire up as you continue the pour.
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« Reply #699 on: March 02, 2018, 09:17:02 AM »
Looking good! 

Not to DOT this thread up, but what tankless water heater do you have in your home?  We're making that final decision in the next few days and any insight would be appreciated.  You can respond over on my house thread if you don't want to muddy this one up.
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