Author Topic: Building my First AR15 (Read 57163 times)

Bigdave_185 · « **Reply #200 on:** December 23, 2015, 11:06:25 PM »

The magpul p mag I think the third generation. With a pep window, 30 rnd

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JR · « **Reply #201 on:** December 23, 2015, 11:21:21 PM »

I doubt it is the mags then. Have you tried other brand mags to see if it does the same?

rasimmo · « **Reply #202 on:** December 23, 2015, 11:47:13 PM »

I bought one that did the same thing. It wound up being a bunch of blue loc-tite around the bolt catch. Whoever assembled it got carried away with it putting the mag release in I guess. I'm not saying that is your issue. Just don't overlook the simple stuff.

Bigdave_185 · « **Reply #203 on:** December 24, 2015, 09:07:56 AM »

I didn't try other magazines, not yet anyway

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BobbyB · « **Reply #204 on:** December 24, 2015, 09:12:24 AM »

Did you lube the crap out of it? if not and it's dry, it'll decide randomly if it wants to work correctly or not.

If you gas block isn't covering the hole, you aren't going to get what you need to cycle reliably.

stlaser · « **Reply #205 on:** December 24, 2015, 09:47:05 AM »

Is it cycling correctly when you dump a Mag? AR's don't like to be tight so if it's not loose & lubed well it can give you problems until it is broken in. Another thought is maybe it's over gassed? An adjustable gas block may help you dial this in but I would try that as last resort.

Bigdave_185 · « **Reply #206 on:** December 24, 2015, 10:49:19 AM »

I didn't add any additional lube from what the bcg was filled with. It was ozzing from the new one in the package, My understanding was they don't need much lube

I wonder if I ought to run a few hundred rounds in it first before I start to stress about it.

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Bigdave_185 · « **Reply #207 on:** December 24, 2015, 10:50:06 AM »

It cycles shot after shot just fine. No hang ups or jamming. So far it's just that last shot where the bolt doesn't catch open

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rasimmo · « **Reply #208 on:** December 24, 2015, 10:54:08 AM »

I think Bobby was asking about lube on the bolt catch, not the bolt. Make sure it is lubed good and works smooth. The mag follower doesn't put a lot of pressure on it to lift.

Bigdave_185 · « **Reply #209 on:** December 24, 2015, 11:48:08 AM »

It floats really smooth as it is. I'll apply a bit of oil and see what happens. Can't hurt

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BobbyB · « **Reply #210 on:** December 24, 2015, 12:35:58 PM »

I meant the BCG. Lube her up good, as well as the channel the gas key rides in, and the BCG channel. Tight fitting parts don't like friction.

Try a different mag, if that doesn't work. Try replacing the bolt catch with a different one. It might be the bolt catch. Stranger things have happened. Or take it to your buddy or a gunsmith and see what they say.

TexasRedNeck · « **Reply #211 on:** December 24, 2015, 02:10:42 PM »

They're onto something. Make sure that bolt catch is not binding. Spit the upper and lower and insert a mag. See if the mag puts enough pressure on the catch to move it freely as you push down on the follower and release it slowly.

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stlaser · « **Reply #212 on:** December 24, 2015, 02:43:51 PM »

Also a little oil in your Mag won't hurt, if the Mag is hanging up slightly after the last round this could happen as well.

JR · « **Reply #213 on:** December 24, 2015, 05:48:48 PM »

I have not used locktite on the mag release and wouldn't. If it moves back and forth easy it should be fine.

Sure you are seating the mag OK?

rasimmo · « **Reply #214 on:** December 24, 2015, 08:05:19 PM »

Quote from: JR on December 24, 2015, 05:48:48 PM

I have not used locktite on the mag release and wouldn't. If it moves back and forth easy it should be fine.

I don't use it either. The thing won't turn to loosen by itself anyway. That was on a new Daniel Defense I bought. The mag release button was blue around the edges and stiff so I checked further and found the bolt catch covered in it too. That explained why it would not lock back on an empty mag. The only thing I could figure was they put them together and put them in a rack upside down. Who knows. It was a pretty frustrating day trying out a new gun that I expected to be great. That was the only issue I have found. Once that mess was cleaned up it runs perfectly.

Bigdave_185 · « **Reply #215 on:** December 28, 2015, 10:57:02 PM »

Those who followed my other comment on Don's page about my son. I have now done what I need to do so that I can say with out a doubt my child is free from access to rifles and or hand guns.

In the end I freed up a large portion of closet space and now have a heavy locked door that I can store things in. I have never worried about my children and guns. We have an open communication with each other and if question are asked they are answered with a good, simple and positive attitude as to not discourage questions. And rewards for making such choices as apposed to the ol adage of curiosity killed the cat so to speak.

The boy still needs training and much more understanding but I will not push the limits and test the father roll. I will be a good step dad and so my best to be good roll model.

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JR · « **Reply #216 on:** December 28, 2015, 11:23:16 PM »

We have the same communication here. If you keep them in the dark, they will want to get at them all the more. I let them see and hold what they want.

I just got this since I want to have something more at hand near other end of the house.

Bigdave_185 · « **Reply #217 on:** December 28, 2015, 11:34:17 PM »

Jr. What is the size HG you can store in that. Is there a maximum size?

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Flyin6 · « **Reply #218 on:** December 29, 2015, 11:50:56 AM »

Back to the bolt not holding open thing.
If it doesn't start locking back after swapping mags
then I'm wondering how you pushed in the pin that holds the bolt catch?
You could tap it enough to bend the ear in somewhat and bind the pivoting action of the latch.
I broke an ear off once...

JR · « **Reply #219 on:** December 29, 2015, 11:14:50 PM »

The way this is going I thought I would start a thread on storage or safes;

http://real-man-truckworks-and-survival.com/index.php?topic=1790.new#new

1911 fits just fine and on the cover too!

Atkinsmatt · « **Reply #220 on:** January 14, 2016, 12:07:35 PM »

Dave, any update? Bolt catch working?

Bigdave_185 · « **Reply #221 on:** January 14, 2016, 12:24:33 PM »

Update is none existent. Started school last week. Eight credit hours till I am done with and associates, this week has been eough

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Bigdave_185 · « **Reply #222 on:** March 21, 2016, 04:48:37 PM »

Went shooting the ar yesterday. Sighted in for the distance I was at. Fifty yards or so. She is louder then I would like I guess I need to look for a different muzzle break.
She jammed on me twice miss fired a shell once too

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JR · « **Reply #223 on:** March 21, 2016, 09:30:49 PM »

Remember almost all jams will be the mag with factory ammo.

BobbyB · « **Reply #224 on:** March 22, 2016, 02:24:44 AM »

Quote from: Bigdave_185 on March 21, 2016, 04:48:37 PM

She is louder then I would like I guess I need to look for a different muzzle break.

Muzzle brakes are inherently loud. If you don't want loud look at a flash hider. Find an A2 style muzzle device, they are generally cheap since no one generally uses them, cause they aren't the super cool, new muzzle brake,flash hider, compensating GPS enabled laser guided , titanium alloy, with wi-fi enabled muzzle device.

Flyin6 · « **Reply #225 on:** March 22, 2016, 09:30:06 AM »

Wow, Wifi!

Don't have that on any of my gunz!

BobbyB · « **Reply #226 on:** March 22, 2016, 09:56:03 AM »

Quote from: Flyin6 on March 22, 2016, 09:30:06 AM

Wow, Wifi!

Don't have that on any of my gunz!

It's cause you don't have the new "super cool, only the cool guys have them" muzzle device on any of your rifles.

Flyin6 · « **Reply #227 on:** March 22, 2016, 01:23:51 PM »

Quote from: BobbyB on March 22, 2016, 09:56:03 AM

Quote from: Flyin6 on March 22, 2016, 09:30:06 AM
Wow, Wifi!

Don't have that on any of my gunz!

It's cause you don't have the new "super cool, only the cool guys have them" muzzle device on any of your rifles.

Yea, guess I'm not cool (anymore)

But I think I'm satisfied just where I am!

BobbyB · « **Reply #228 on:** March 22, 2016, 03:16:43 PM »

Quote from: Flyin6 on March 22, 2016, 01:23:51 PM

Yea, guess I'm not cool (anymore)

But I think I'm satisfied just where I am!

You might win some cool points if you tell me how the POF is treating you.

Bigdave_185 · « **Reply #229 on:** March 22, 2016, 04:12:46 PM »

Don!! someone is DOTing up my thread with out me!!! ;D

so i mentioned to the wife that my ears were really sensitive after shooting on Saturday, even with my awesome pink noise reducing ear muffs.

Getting things lined up so i can can tell her i need to buy a flash hider to reduce noise and save my ears, that way i can hear her tell me she loves me 8)

as for wifi, i cant get that crap to work at my house let alone trying to get mobile wifi.

BobbyB · « **Reply #230 on:** March 22, 2016, 04:37:52 PM »

Quote from: Bigdave_185 on March 22, 2016, 04:12:46 PM

Don!! someone is DOTing up my thread with out me!!! ;D

so i mentioned to the wife that my ears were really sensitive after shooting on Saturday, even with my awesome pink noise reducing ear muffs.

Getting things lined up so i can can tell her i need to buy a flash hider to reduce noise and save my ears, that way i can hear her tell me she loves me 8)

as for wifi, i cant get that crap to work at my house let alone trying to get mobile wifi.

Go to the local gun store, or a gun show and browse through their parts box, I can almost guarantee that you will find an A2 style flash hider in there, and it shouldn't cost you more than $15-$20 for it. I've seen them for $8 usually at the gun shows.

Bigdave_185 · « **Reply #231 on:** March 22, 2016, 05:16:51 PM »

Teach me the diff?

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Bigdave_185 · « **Reply #232 on:** March 22, 2016, 05:18:34 PM »

From what I see the a2 only has ports on the top?

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Bigdave_185 · « **Reply #233 on:** March 22, 2016, 05:19:18 PM »

What do they all do ?

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husker77c · « **Reply #234 on:** March 22, 2016, 05:47:24 PM »

Quote from: Bigdave_185 on March 22, 2016, 05:18:34 PM

From what I see the a2 only has ports on the top?

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That is the main difference. No ports on the bottom is supposed to help with muzzle rise.

As for the differences of the last pic you posted. All of those are in the same class of flash hider. The long ones are for permanently attaching to a barrel to get around NFA laws regarding short barrel rifles. Not much point to that though cause if you wack 6" off of your barrel then attach a 6" muzzle device you end up with a louder rifle with the same overall length.

Unless your wanting to spend upwards of $100 on a flash hider you're best bet is to just go with an A2. I have A2s on all my rifles except the tan one in this pic.

That one is a Spikes I paid I think $90 for and I haven't seen an $82 difference over a gun show $8 A2.

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cj7ox · « **Reply #235 on:** March 22, 2016, 07:47:15 PM »

Quote from: Flyin6 on March 22, 2016, 09:30:06 AM

Wow, Wifi!

Don't have that on any of my gunz!

That's because you're not an OPERATOR. If you were, you'd have wifi on your battle rifle. If you'd been in combat (in call of duty, or like online video game)you'd know better! 8)

Bigdave_185 · « **Reply #236 on:** August 18, 2016, 10:02:23 PM »

Well the AR is good and dusty. Found a local outdoor range that has a $10 fee to site the scope and such I for me. Figured I would have them target out to 200 yrds and call it China.

Intop of that brownells and all the damn emails are gonna cost me more money

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stlaser · « **Reply #237 on:** August 18, 2016, 10:16:52 PM »

Quote from: Bigdave_185 on August 18, 2016, 10:02:23 PM

Well the AR is good and dusty. Found a local outdoor range that has a $10 fee to site the scope and such I for me. Figured I would have them target out to 200 yrds and call it China.

Intop of that brownells and all the damn emails are gonna cost me more money

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Not trying to beat you up but a lot of places will mount & bore sight the scope for you to get you on paper especially if you bought the scope & or mounts from them. Then with the amount of support here I'm sure the guys could help you dial it in. I'm no expert but I do my own. Just thinking learning a new skill, kinda goes back to that whole fish quote.

TexasRedNeck · « **Reply #238 on:** August 18, 2016, 11:02:46 PM »

I like the 50 yard zero. You'll be about 1inch high at 100, 1.5 inch high at 150 and then on target at 200. Within minute of scumbag out to 300

Sammconn · « **Reply #239 on:** August 18, 2016, 11:05:31 PM »

If in doubt the easiest way to find your round is to start at 25. After the above mentioned bore sighting. At 25, with the bore sighting being close you should not miss the target.
Then move it as required to get 'close' at 25.
Confirm at 50/100 whatever you want and GTG.

Bigdave_185 · « **Reply #240 on:** August 18, 2016, 11:07:49 PM »

Not against learning a new skill, the issue is time and space to do it, the local has turned our nice fields into fire hazards. My town has had two small fires in our local area caused by lightning and another unknown. I don't want to be the third cause, the other portion of going where I bought it and the parts all came from the interwebs. I have an understanding of it. Just not the time or the desire to sit in the sun and shoot/adjust/shoot. It's pretty close already from the few times it's been out too. Just lazy I guess

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Dawg25385 · « **Reply #241 on:** August 19, 2016, 12:20:34 AM »

50/200 g2g, like Mr. Tex R. Neck said

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BobbyB · « **Reply #242 on:** August 19, 2016, 09:30:45 AM »

If you only have access to a 25m zero then it'll work fine. 50m will work as well. Hell if you know your sight's offset you can do a 10m zero as well, just confirm at the preferred zero distance afterwards.

stlaser · « **Reply #243 on:** August 19, 2016, 09:37:21 AM »

Quote from: BobbyB on August 19, 2016, 09:30:45 AM

If you only have access to a 25m zero then it'll work fine. 50m will work as well. Hell if you know your sight's offset you can do a 10m zero as well, just confirm at the preferred zero distance afterwards.

Bobby, you realize you're gunna need to explain those terms in more detail right? I think this is the part where Don would say something about over educated grunts or something...... ;D

BobbyB · « **Reply #244 on:** August 19, 2016, 09:44:01 AM »

Quote from: stlaser on August 19, 2016, 09:37:21 AM

Bobby, you realize you're gunna need to explain those terms in more detail right? I think this is the part where Don would say something about over educated grunts or something...... ;D

Let me break out the crayons, and the scratch and sniff markers and stickers.... Or I'll just post some websites that talk about it.

http://jerkingthetrigger.com/2015/02/13/zeroing-target-50200-yard-zero-at-10-yards/

http://jerkingthetrigger.com/2014/11/12/frank-proctors-50-yard-zero-at-10-yards/

Rifle to Optic offset...

How high the optic is off the bore axis of your rifle, this is measured by going from center of bore to center of sight. It's talked about in the video that I linked above.

Bigdave_185 · « **Reply #245 on:** August 19, 2016, 11:09:52 AM »

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Bigdave_185 · « **Reply #246 on:** August 19, 2016, 11:15:42 AM »

I get it, I am almost to shaky of a hand to even come close to the 1/4 adjustments in the article. I need more rifle time, more time on the range. More time sounds like I want a nap.

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stlaser · « **Reply #247 on:** August 19, 2016, 11:38:44 AM »

Quote from: Bigdave_185 on August 19, 2016, 11:15:42 AM

I get it, I am almost to shaky of a hand to even come close to the 1/4 adjustments in the article. I need more rifle time, more time on the range. More time sounds like I want a nap.

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Better to learn skills now than having to figure it out on the fly......

BobbyB · « **Reply #248 on:** August 19, 2016, 12:00:03 PM »

What's confusing? What sight do you have mounted? What is the adjustment values per click?

TexasRedNeck · « **Reply #249 on:** August 19, 2016, 02:25:34 PM »

If you have a bench and rest , the best way to get on paper is to remove the upper , bcg and charging handle. Brace the upper in the bench rest, sand bags, etc so that you are able to look through the barrel and see the middle of the target. Then sight down the sights and see where your sights alighn. Without moving the upper, adjust the optic to the center of the target. Recheck and adjust a few times until you are able to sight through the barrel and see that the optic is aligned to the same spot. That'll get you on paper and allow you to dial in. All your sight adjustments when zeroing should be done from a bench or prone for accuracy.

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