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Re: DR-650 Build Thread Part 1
« Reply #400 on: November 17, 2015, 05:30:54 PM »
I want a picture. (of the fall)

I think the 14t gave him low end without lugging the motor. Many bikes today are geared for cruising not riding.
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Re: DR-650 Build Thread Part 1
« Reply #401 on: November 17, 2015, 07:21:26 PM »
So Don how many teeth on the factory rear?  14/15 was a 7% reduction in speed.

If the factory is 42, then a 43 will get you about 2.5% which is about halfway between.
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Re: DR-650 Build Thread Part 1
« Reply #402 on: November 17, 2015, 08:16:21 PM »
I want a picture. (of the fall)

I think the 14t gave him low end without lugging the motor. Many bikes today are geared for cruising not riding.
With the stock carb the 15 T sprocket was not so dirt (Lugging) friendly.

When I switched to the pumper carb, you can ride around at 5 RPM, it runs just fine, so in reality, I could have kept the 15 tooth cog.

When I get up to 790 CC this winter I'll throw the 15 T back on. With 350 cu in lugging away, I won't need no stinkin sprocket!
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Re: DR-650 Build Thread Part 1
« Reply #403 on: November 17, 2015, 08:22:49 PM »
I am sure that pumper helped alot, but 790cc is 350ci !!!!!!  ::) I think it is more like 48.2 ci.

But I have seen a 350 in few bikes, not dirt though.

150mi, that pretty good. I did Tehachapi to Mojave a long time ago but that was all washouts and sideroads.
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Re: DR-650 Build Thread Part 1
« Reply #404 on: November 17, 2015, 09:39:30 PM »
Obviously no 350, but it sure pulls like one!
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Re: DR-650 Build Thread Part 1
« Reply #405 on: November 25, 2015, 10:54:35 PM »
The brown truck showed up today

Just got in a S&W Motech center stand.

After much thinkin' and working on the bike with the kickstand down, I could see where a center stand would benefit me greatly, so I bit the bullet and ordered one.

Took the bike out today for a spin in 60F temps. Not too bad overall. I am wearing this thick Harley Davidson riding jacket. It has thick stripes of rhinoceros hide and alligator belly sewn along the sleeves and shoulders. I guess they are part of a skid system. Judging from the stiffness of this thing, I should be able to slide to Missouri before it wears through should I fall!
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Re: DR-650 Build Thread Part 1
« Reply #406 on: November 25, 2015, 11:09:17 PM »
I'm gonna have to stop by some time and check out the new builds in person.
I like seeing the posts but nothing beats seeing first hand.

There both looking good...

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Re: DR-650 Build Thread Part 1
« Reply #407 on: November 26, 2015, 08:12:29 AM »
I'm gonna have to stop by some time and check out the new builds in person.
I like seeing the posts but nothing beats seeing first hand.

There both looking good...

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Make sure you give it a proper break in ride. He already dumped it once..
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Re: DR-650 Build Thread Part 1
« Reply #408 on: December 16, 2015, 09:38:22 PM »
Well, had a center stand I ordered a month or more ago sitting around and the Red Dog was eyeing the box. Not that she could damage the center stand, but the bag of hardware would be lost in the grass somewhere and once again I'd want to shoot that dog.

So to save her life, I decided to install the center stand today

Before I get started, take a look at what happens to poly tanks that have gas on the inside and paint on the outside:
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Re: DR-650 Build Thread Part 1
« Reply #409 on: December 16, 2015, 09:39:47 PM »
The center stand is a good idea for this bike, making maintenance in the field easier should I need to pull a wheel off. It is made by a super-duper German company, SW Motech
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Re: DR-650 Build Thread Part 1
« Reply #410 on: December 16, 2015, 09:40:44 PM »
I dropped the pegs already so that modification is going to complicate things somewhat.
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Re: DR-650 Build Thread Part 1
« Reply #411 on: December 16, 2015, 09:41:19 PM »
The parts and hardware were of a very high quality!
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Re: DR-650 Build Thread Part 1
« Reply #412 on: December 16, 2015, 09:41:49 PM »
Got to brush up on my German some!
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Re: DR-650 Build Thread Part 1
« Reply #413 on: December 16, 2015, 09:43:22 PM »
If using the drop peg kit, you will need to switch out the orientation of the bolts, and I added an extra SAE washer on each bolt to space the mount outboard just a bit so I'd have room for the center stand swing to clear the foot peg bolts
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Re: DR-650 Build Thread Part 1
« Reply #414 on: December 16, 2015, 09:44:48 PM »
It's a handful, as it all sort of goes together at once. Lots of parts wanting to scatter when you hoist this mass up into place and before you catch a couple threads, securing the thing from falling into the sixth dimension
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Re: DR-650 Build Thread Part 1
« Reply #415 on: December 16, 2015, 09:45:49 PM »
But with a couple quick flashes of the wrench and an unbelievably hard double spring pull, it's on just like that!
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Re: DR-650 Build Thread Part 1
« Reply #416 on: December 16, 2015, 09:47:52 PM »
I'll be pulling that fuel tank back off to remove the paint from it, but I think I'll wait till mid winter when I tear down the top end for the 790cc big bore kit.

Anyway it now rests on the center stand and I couldn't be happier!
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Re: DR-650 Build Thread Part 1
« Reply #417 on: December 16, 2015, 09:48:42 PM »
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Re: DR-650 Build Thread Part 1
« Reply #418 on: December 16, 2015, 09:49:41 PM »
Great job.
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Re: DR-650 Build Thread Part 1
« Reply #419 on: December 16, 2015, 10:11:39 PM »
I like that center stand Don, pretty cool piece. Now as far as that tank, I have been eyeing a couple as I would like extended range. The one I'm looking at is a 4 gal in place of the stock 2. I also think that they make a six but seems a bit overkill as I have that large rear rack I can add more fuel to as well. Other than the paint failing are you happy with this mod?
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Re: DR-650 Build Thread Part 1
« Reply #420 on: December 16, 2015, 11:54:03 PM »
Center stands are worth their weight in gold when you need em. Nice looking stand. Plus the additional weight is about as low as you can go!

Funny, my understanding was the paint would adhere is painted before you you put fuel in it. Live an learn. Maybe someone could make a vinyl overlay for that?
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Re: DR-650 Build Thread Part 1
« Reply #421 on: December 17, 2015, 10:23:09 AM »
I like that center stand Don, pretty cool piece. Now as far as that tank, I have been eyeing a couple as I would like extended range. The one I'm looking at is a 4 gal in place of the stock 2. I also think that they make a six but seems a bit overkill as I have that large rear rack I can add more fuel to as well. Other than the paint failing are you happy with this mod?
I'm definitely happy with this mod.

Couple things though. With 40 pounds sitting up high, the bikes handling is different between being full and down to around a gallon.

And considering the incredible fuel mileage, the change takes several weeks (To use all that fuel)

I have learned to just run it at around 4 gallons.

As for the tank coloring, I can do a couple of things.
I could remove the paint and just run it in the natural translucent plastic color
Or, I could purchase another black or gray tank
Or, I could fashion a cover for it from OD or cammo colored material and do a Molle thing where I could attach pouches as I saw fit.
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Re: DR-650 Build Thread Part 1
« Reply #422 on: December 17, 2015, 10:27:02 AM »

As for the tank coloring, I can do a couple of things.

1.  I could purchase another black or gray tank
2.  I could fashion a cover for it from OD or cammo colored material and do a Molle thing where I could attach pouches as I saw fit.

Order a black tank or whatnot, makes the bike ride able. Use the tank that's on there to try out your Molle idea. If it doesn't turn out, then you can still use it as a spare.
So, Bobby...being the calculating trained warrior NCO that you are.  Take the appropriate action, Execute!
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Re: DR-650 Build Thread Part 1
« Reply #423 on: December 17, 2015, 10:27:56 AM »
Center stands are worth their weight in gold when you need em. Nice looking stand. Plus the additional weight is about as low as you can go!

Funny, my understanding was the paint would adhere is painted before you you put fuel in it. Live an learn. Maybe someone could make a vinyl overlay for that?
I am not concerned about adding weight to this bike
First of all
Since Blaine talked about the Kettle ball exercises, I have been wearing out a 50 pounder.
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Don is losing weight faster than I am adding it to the bike!
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All Don's weight is up high where it matters!
Secondly
I reckon this modified bike to be around 40-42 HP now. It made 36-37 stock. The pipe, carb and airbox mod pushed it up. But the 790 big bore kit with the stage 2 cam will push that figure into the mid 50 range. So we can carry a wee bit more weight if it serves a useful purpose.

1000 more kettle ball swings and I'll be able to carry a surefire 60 rounder all topped off!
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Re: DR-650 Build Thread Part 1
« Reply #424 on: December 17, 2015, 10:28:45 AM »

As for the tank coloring, I can do a couple of things.

1.  I could purchase another black or gray tank
2.  I could fashion a cover for it from OD or cammo colored material and do a Molle thing where I could attach pouches as I saw fit.

Order a black tank or whatnot, makes the bike ride able. Use the tank that's on there to try out your Molle idea. If it doesn't turn out, then you can still use it as a spare.
Yea, I like the Molle idea.
Don't think anyone has done that yet
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Re: DR-650 Build Thread Part 1
« Reply #425 on: December 17, 2015, 10:32:42 AM »
Yea, I like the Molle idea.
Don't think anyone has done that yet

Only thing I can think of is the pouches MIGHT interfere with the bars when you go to turn and you really crank on it, depending on the pouches. Just a thought.
So, Bobby...being the calculating trained warrior NCO that you are.  Take the appropriate action, Execute!
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Re: DR-650 Build Thread Part 1
« Reply #426 on: December 17, 2015, 10:34:43 AM »
Yea, I like the Molle idea.
Don't think anyone has done that yet

Only thing I can think of is the pouches MIGHT interfere with the bars when you go to turn and you really crank on it, depending on the pouches. Just a thought.
Keep em down low
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Re: DR-650 Build Thread Part 1
« Reply #427 on: December 17, 2015, 11:11:07 AM »
Found a pic of that big bore engine mod:
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Re: DR-650 Build Thread Part 1
« Reply #428 on: December 17, 2015, 12:02:07 PM »
Don, you kinda confirmed my suspicions that 4 gal is a large enough tank up front.......
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Re: DR-650 Build Thread Part 1
« Reply #429 on: December 17, 2015, 12:12:34 PM »
Don, you kinda confirmed my suspicions that 4 gal is a large enough tank up front.......
I mean I could see where 4-5 could work.
I went mugo because I intended to run a whole "Mission" without refueling.
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Re: DR-650 Build Thread Part 1
« Reply #430 on: December 17, 2015, 12:23:21 PM »
Keep em down low

Might get knee to pouch contact dependent on pouch.  Or brush grabbage on the pouch. Just thinking of things that will make your "mission" ride have a painful moment or 2. Wait a minute vines WILL grab anything and everything they can, especially when it's dark.
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Re: DR-650 Build Thread Part 1
« Reply #431 on: December 17, 2015, 12:28:21 PM »
Don, you kinda confirmed my suspicions that 4 gal is a large enough tank up front.......
I mean I could see where 4-5 could work.
I went mugo because I intended to run a whole "Mission" without refueling.

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Re: DR-650 Build Thread Part 1
« Reply #432 on: December 18, 2015, 12:42:39 PM »
Met a great guy just now. Mike who owns a company that started making Molle tank covers for bikes.
I was going to build my own, but this guy has this down to a science, just take a look:

http://tankvest.3dcartstores.com/Gallery_ep_41.html
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Re: DR-650 Build Thread Part 1
« Reply #433 on: December 18, 2015, 12:52:20 PM »
Here is what these bags look like with some various storage pouches fitted
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« Reply #434 on: December 18, 2015, 12:52:54 PM »
Boy if that ain't the ticket.....

This will hold my scanner perfectly ;)

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Re: DR-650 Build Thread Part 1
« Reply #435 on: December 18, 2015, 12:58:30 PM »
Boy if that ain't the ticket.....

This will hold my scanner perfectly ;)
http://tankvest.3dcartstores.com/assets/images/tv/klr650ims/tvp5.jpg

Shawn,

Mike should be showing up in the intro section.
He hasn't done a DR650 with the Acerbis tank, I think, but he has a way.
I'll let him clarify, but he can get the tank dimensions then build a cover.

That would open the door to other models as well.

Anyway, we'll get to see it first hand getting developed for the DR
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Re: DR-650 Build Thread Part 1
« Reply #436 on: December 18, 2015, 01:01:57 PM »
Also... Was thinking

This project is needing a name

I've had a few thoughts about a name for this bike

"Scout" comes to mind, as in Army scout
Another is "Steamer" because of the ancient steam powered engine
Of course, we are already using just "DR" so that's a possibility
Hmmm...
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Re: DR-650 Build Thread Part 1
« Reply #437 on: December 18, 2015, 01:09:34 PM »
I like the tank wrap. It seems you can get a Molle wrap for just about anything. Orca coolers even makes one for some of their ice chests.

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Re: DR-650 Build Thread Part 1
« Reply #438 on: December 18, 2015, 01:35:20 PM »
Man that's sweet. Might have to start a bike project now just so I can get one of those. That thing should add a good amount of storage to a vehicle that has very little to start with!
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Re: DR-650 Build Thread Part 1
« Reply #439 on: December 18, 2015, 02:33:23 PM »
Shawn,

Mike should be showing up in the intro section.
He hasn't done a DR650 with the Acerbis tank, I think, but he has a way.
I'll let him clarify, but he can get the tank dimensions then build a cover.

That would open the door to other models as well.

Anyway, we'll get to see it first hand getting developed for the DR

I could possibly ship him the new 4 gal tank if he hasn't done one for wr450f.....
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Re: DR-650 Build Thread Part 1
« Reply #440 on: December 18, 2015, 03:07:29 PM »
Shawn,

Mike should be showing up in the intro section.
He hasn't done a DR650 with the Acerbis tank, I think, but he has a way.
I'll let him clarify, but he can get the tank dimensions then build a cover.

That would open the door to other models as well.

Anyway, we'll get to see it first hand getting developed for the DR

I could possibly ship him the new 4 gal tank if he hasn't done one for wr450f.....
When Mike shows up down here on this thread, ask him about it

There's a lot more coming

We have already talked about a Molle panel for the doors of Square D and the seat backs of C-Max.
I can see just some plain old panels of various rectangular shapes and sizes one could buy, then affix anywhere, like the inside of a topper or on a wall of a camper.

My brain (Small as it is) is werkin here...

Mike where are you?
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Re: DR-650 Build Thread Part 1
« Reply #441 on: December 18, 2015, 04:16:13 PM »
Also... Was thinking

This project is needing a name

I've had a few thoughts about a name for this bike

"Scout" comes to mind, as in Army scout
Another is "Steamer" because of the ancient steam powered engine
Of course, we are already using just "DR" so that's a possibility
Hmmm...

Scout is already being used on another bike thread......... ::) sorry  ;D
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Re: DR-650 Build Thread Part 1
« Reply #442 on: December 18, 2015, 04:41:40 PM »
Hey guys, thanks for the warm welcome and I'm glad to see the Tank Vest getting a warm reception as well. 

We can make the Tank Vest for just about any motorcycle out there.  Here's the catch.  We need a motorcycle to pattern for each model and gas tank.  The patterning takes about 2 weeks to do.   

The Tank Vest is 100% made in the USA. 

Any MOLLE pouches will work with the Tank Vest. 

We're currently working on many special application pouches and accessories for the Tank Vest such as a secure carbine mount, administrator pouch, QD medical pouch, and more.   

Please feel free to ask any questions you may have.  I'll do my best to answer them. 

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Re: DR-650 Build Thread Part 1
« Reply #443 on: December 18, 2015, 04:57:11 PM »
Don,  Since "Scout" is already used....

"Donor Sled" is available?  That's what my Dr. buddies call them...all the good organs come from motorcycle riders....
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Re: DR-650 Build Thread Part 1
« Reply #444 on: December 18, 2015, 04:57:38 PM »
Looking at a Clark 4 gal tank for the 2015 WR450F, have you done this tank before? If not can I drop ship to you?
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« Reply #445 on: December 18, 2015, 04:58:18 PM »
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Re: DR-650 Build Thread Part 1
« Reply #446 on: December 18, 2015, 05:03:15 PM »
Don,  Since "Scout" is already used....

"Donor Sled" is available?  That's what my Dr. buddies call them...all the good organs come from motorcycle riders....


I second this, kinda a dual purpose name if you will. Donor meaning I can "borrow" it to play with when I visit the farm..... ;)
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Re: DR-650 Build Thread Part 1
« Reply #447 on: December 18, 2015, 06:57:36 PM »
Don,  Since "Scout" is already used....

"Donor Sled" is available?  That's what my Dr. buddies call them...all the good organs come from motorcycle riders....
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Re: DR-650 Build Thread Part 1
« Reply #448 on: December 18, 2015, 06:58:31 PM »
Don,  Since "Scout" is already used....

"Donor Sled" is available?  That's what my Dr. buddies call them...all the good organs come from motorcycle riders....


I second this, kinda a dual purpose name if you will. Donor meaning I can "borrow" it to play with when I visit the farm..... ;)
Yea you can borrow it
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Re: DR-650 Build Thread Part 1
« Reply #449 on: December 18, 2015, 07:14:55 PM »
Looking at a Clark 4 gal tank for the 2015 WR450F, have you done this tank before? If not can I drop ship to you?

We haven't but we can probably make it happen.  Let me see if there is one locally if not, I'll take you up on that offer.

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