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Stairs to man cave and new room.
« on: June 24, 2016, 01:44:47 AM »
In building my garage back in 07-10 the plan was always to add a set of stairs and add a room above the one area next to that that didn't have a vaulted ceiling.

Right now I have a pull down stairs just off center in the garage. Upstairs is huge, being 22x32. I built a 16x22 room in the center of this with storage rooms on both sides.

Right now I have most of my RC hobby stuff up there and my kids have an HO train set. I even put a winch in that really helps with the big stuff.


So I started the stairs by cutting a small access hole where it would come out upstairs. landing are code but the stairs will be a little narrow at 32".

This is the room they are taking over, which will be a small office later.
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Re: Stairs to man cave and new room.
« Reply #1 on: June 24, 2016, 01:47:51 AM »
Here is a link to my RC Hobby and exploits including a fire in 06 that let me build the garage and buy the Dmax.

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/member.php?u=132
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« Reply #2 on: June 24, 2016, 02:03:47 AM »
Not the greatest picture, but here is the stairs I am replacing and the HF lift that does a lot!!
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Re: Stairs to man cave and new room.
« Reply #3 on: June 24, 2016, 02:08:26 AM »
I used a couple calcs but the way this stairs is going in doesn't really work with them. Top step is on the wall between the garage and house. They got me close, so I broke out the cardboard and made templates.

That got me close enough, but I still made 1 "wonrg" cut and had to add a spacer, but it will never be seen again! Top came out perfect.
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Re: Stairs to man cave and new room.
« Reply #4 on: June 24, 2016, 02:17:23 AM »
I did have to open up the doorway a little. It was built with this in mind, but I need to go another stud over still.

Got the stairs marked out, but want to go over it again in the AM. Get this one right and copy to the other 2.
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Re: Stairs to man cave and new room.
« Reply #5 on: June 24, 2016, 02:25:27 AM »
The stairs work out to a 7.5 rise and a 9.5 tread with a 1/2 overhang. Stingers are 2x12s with 2x4 sistered on the 2 outer and the one on the wall will be screwed into the studs. Treads will be 1 inch flooring ply with 1/2 kickers, all glued and screwed. Probably run a rail on the wall, not sure on the open side yet. Maybe that new tubing bender will yield something nice here.

The 2x4 it buts into holds up a storage area above. Right now it is just a flat 2x4 but will add 2 vertical 2x4s as it has coax running in the center.
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Re: Stairs to man cave and new room.
« Reply #6 on: June 24, 2016, 07:57:35 AM »
Good to be back in the parking lot of project central, isn't it?

Good work

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« Reply #7 on: June 24, 2016, 08:09:15 AM »
Yeah, just stay outta those pesky mulch beds......
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« Reply #8 on: June 24, 2016, 08:45:26 AM »
Yeah, just stay outta those pesky mulch beds......
Many a fine mall crawler has been lost to the mulch beds...especially ones with those decorative rocks!

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Re: Stairs to man cave and new room.
« Reply #9 on: June 24, 2016, 01:27:21 PM »
This is the room I am tearing into. Was my youngest for a couple years but is on the small side with no windows (I did have an escape panel to a front closet though)

The wall are covered in art and all is built with screws.
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Re: Stairs to man cave and new room.
« Reply #10 on: June 24, 2016, 01:32:19 PM »
Oh, look, JR has a young "Harry Potter", but he makes him live in the ceiling!  ;)
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Re: Stairs to man cave and new room.
« Reply #11 on: June 24, 2016, 01:36:49 PM »
That is now my 11 year old and yes he does, even wears glasses.

Here is an ugly mug, thank god it is blurry.
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Re: Stairs to man cave and new room.
« Reply #12 on: June 24, 2016, 01:45:53 PM »
Let that poor kid out- he's AGED terribly from lack of sunlight! LOL! ;D
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« Reply #13 on: June 24, 2016, 03:39:26 PM »
Rofl......
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« Reply #14 on: June 24, 2016, 03:43:15 PM »
Let that poor kid out- he's AGED terribly from lack of sunlight! LOL! ;D

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Re: Stairs to man cave and new room.
« Reply #15 on: June 24, 2016, 07:50:17 PM »
Not the greatest picture, but here is the stairs I am replacing and the HF lift that does a lot!!

it that basket for you to ride in??????????

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« Reply #16 on: June 24, 2016, 09:16:57 PM »
Not the greatest picture, but here is the stairs I am replacing and the HF lift that does a lot!!

it that basket for you to ride in??????????

Well, the lift is rated at 440lbs, so it might just lift me   :P

The boys have ridden in it and it hauls trash down and ammo up great.
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Re: Stairs to man cave and new room.
« Reply #17 on: June 25, 2016, 08:21:01 AM »
Those are great. I used one for my Sea Doo on a gantry arm to get it out of the water before I added on to the boat house back when I had a place on the water.


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Re: Stairs to man cave and new room.
« Reply #18 on: June 26, 2016, 02:50:24 AM »
Got the runners cut and added a 2x4 to the outers since they are just 2x12. I did use a 20v saw for the cuts, this is just the trimming.

Some good ol carpenters glue and screws fixed em right up. The one on the wall is screwed in using 3 1/2 torx screws.
« Last Edit: June 26, 2016, 09:52:38 AM by JR »
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« Reply #19 on: June 26, 2016, 08:30:09 AM »
Looking good!
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« Reply #20 on: June 26, 2016, 09:10:42 AM »
Nice!


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« Reply #21 on: June 26, 2016, 11:42:01 AM »
Good work there JR

That will hold some weight

But everyone in California is fit, healthy, and skinny!

Well, you'll be prepared if some wobble people show up to visit from the south!
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« Reply #22 on: June 26, 2016, 02:16:05 PM »
The kids are already calling spots for storage so it will more than likely get some kind of doors and a brace in the center. Back to work.
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« Reply #23 on: June 26, 2016, 02:18:56 PM »
I can't believe your putting in stairs instead of an escalator, with those busted up body parts of yours!
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« Reply #24 on: June 26, 2016, 02:27:00 PM »
Walking pretty well and the stairs should help. If I could get the swelling to stop it would be better!
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Re: Stairs to man cave and new room.
« Reply #25 on: June 29, 2016, 12:44:36 AM »
I laid in bed for a day with the flu. Got back to work the next day and finally got the runners all screwed in. Even though they were very close to being dead on with each other. I found out the wall to the garage was not square.

Had to trim 1/8 off the back at the top of the 2nd runner. On the 3rd, 1/4 off top and back and 1/8 off the base.

Started cutting the steps and found I am just short with 1 sheet of wood since the stairs are 32 wide and the cut takes 1/8 out.
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« Reply #26 on: July 19, 2016, 12:17:28 AM »
Little more work done between camps and a fishing trips.

Outside 2x12 warped a little after sitting, so it is being massaged as the risers and steps are added. A little cladding on the outside when done and it will look fine.
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« Reply #27 on: July 19, 2016, 12:44:04 AM »
It's amazing how 'kiln dried' wood behaves once you open it up.
Always seems to bend one way or another.

Looking good though, get the treads on and you'll be in business.
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« Reply #28 on: July 19, 2016, 07:15:20 PM »
Got a few on with the help of a supervisor.
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« Reply #29 on: July 19, 2016, 10:21:53 PM »
For your supervisor. I picked this up today.


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« Reply #30 on: September 15, 2016, 06:45:49 PM »
All but one done. I have some wires to reroute for that. Hardest part was the front molding. NO ONE makes a 1 inch 1/2 round. SO I made my own using 1.125 dowels. Ripped after being screwed onto a 2x4 I cut a slot in so they sat flat.

Used a new HF brad nailer/stapler that worked great. All the divits and dings are filled doing final sanding. Then seal it up with clear Urethane before the carpet.

Time to open up the ceiling/roof so they can be used soon.
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« Reply #31 on: September 16, 2016, 08:46:28 AM »
Nice job!

I won't compare the staircase I built in the spring...

Yours is better!
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« Reply #32 on: September 21, 2016, 12:23:14 AM »
All sanded down and ready for sealer sans the one step with the wires. I need to drill another hole and relocate them over some.

I was ready to sheetrock the opening and I found a slight issue. The second step to the door opening is just 72 inches, not quite enough for not knocking the head for sure!

So now I have to remove the lip and re-route several wires in there. That gains me almost 4 inches and even more if I angle it a little. However this means I need to put a 4x6 over the doorway so it will be supported. I will box in the opening above the stairs, but leave the rest open. That works fine as the router is located up there and it gives a nice spot to get it out of the open.
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« Reply #33 on: October 12, 2016, 06:14:36 PM »
Had to re run all the wires including cat 5 (2 inch hole for future add ons.

One romex was actually not hooked up on either end but the other feed the whole room and front door. (yes I always use the screws on my plugs.) The coiled wire is not hooked but there for a fan or such run to the light fixture. I am thinking pod lights later on.

Built a new frame using a 4x4 with 6 inch special lags as the base. Braced into the old trusses with glue and screws, then sheared with 3/8 ply.
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« Reply #34 on: October 12, 2016, 06:16:59 PM »
Looks a little better with sheetrock. I did have a little help pulling wires since getting in there is not fun for me. My youngest fits fine.
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« Reply #35 on: October 12, 2016, 06:39:12 PM »
Here is a picture showing some of the old construction. There are 3 layers of roof/ceiling there that had to be cut away. You can see the cat5 wires I had to re route.
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« Reply #36 on: October 12, 2016, 06:53:25 PM »
Progress!
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« Reply #37 on: October 12, 2016, 07:01:42 PM »
Here is what it looks like now, just needs a little mud. The 2 upper panels are temp to block the roof/insulation/air issues.

Can someone guess what these are??
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« Reply #38 on: October 13, 2016, 09:46:44 AM »
Got me...No clue...
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« Reply #39 on: October 13, 2016, 10:27:34 AM »
Plates with bolts in them? :)
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« Reply #40 on: October 13, 2016, 12:17:09 PM »
Hinge of some form...
I just don't want to wind up missing a digit or limb.  I can sometimes get in a hurry to get results.
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« Reply #41 on: October 13, 2016, 01:22:33 PM »
I had some pics I need to reload them, not hinges, look up.
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« Reply #42 on: October 13, 2016, 02:18:30 PM »
rafter anchor.
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« Reply #43 on: October 13, 2016, 03:11:18 PM »
rafter anchor.

close, but something sits on it that needs to move a little.
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« Reply #44 on: October 13, 2016, 03:18:41 PM »
OK, here are 2 more pics. Sure it gives it away;
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« Reply #45 on: October 13, 2016, 06:06:39 PM »
You watch treehouse masters? That guy makes some neat rigging/brackets.

Hey JR, buddy, you better be careful up there!
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« Reply #46 on: October 13, 2016, 09:51:55 PM »
Yep, you guessed it. Super careful, don't want to start over again.
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« Reply #47 on: October 14, 2016, 03:00:22 PM »
Made a CAD template and cut the outside runner. Will allow the carpeting to edge just right.

Will cap with a nice 3/4 trim. Now building the storage area then onto the rail.

The rail will be a simple 2x2 post (hense the relief) with flat bar along the top/bottom with vertical runners.
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« Reply #48 on: October 14, 2016, 03:34:05 PM »
Looks good JR.
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« Reply #49 on: October 15, 2016, 11:17:16 AM »
That's good work!
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