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In the words of my personal hero, Forrest Gump, "For no particular reason" I just decided to begin Part-3 of the hide site build up.

Those of you just coming here, there's parts one and two to muddle through before any of this will make any sense, so get tuit and git that done...And yes, I like to misspell things, just cause I kan! (And I'm a Kintuckian!)

So we left off somewhere, where I was doing something, and we'll launch off this thread from that nebulous point.

We can start where I did a few days ago when my hearing was still intact, my lungs was clear of dust, and my fingers hadn't been banged up by my hammer.

I chose the contractor pack of can lights, three of them to cover voids in the overhead floor joists which I thought needed something to create a fire hazard and some visual interest!
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I was under supervision the entire time...
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He is a part of my security system. Whenever a threat or sound manifests, he runs away and hides, indicating to me, something is amiss!

The theme was electrical stuff. Knowing I was moving the heavy wood stove into it's semi-permanent spot, I finished out the outlets and lights in its vicinity first

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It's just work, but I wired in several more outlets with the 15 amp receptacles in the traditional way of attaching the wires directly to the screws. In the future I will use some of the push to connect receptacles to speed up things
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The cans are a pretty good buy at around $10 each.

The feed wires which have been stripped, simply push into the speed connectors which can also be used as a porch swing tie off in emergencies

(Well, maybe not)
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The hand shots were to show what the proper anatomical makeup of a "Don-hand" looks like after it heals from days of smashing, cutting, dog bites, wasp stings, rusty nail punctures and the like.

This is one of the things used to bait you into smashing your fingers:

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I used all but two of the cans in the fit out of the bottom floor. I'm saving those for new headlights for Square-D ;-))
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I have no clue how far apart or how many to use, so I just stuck them everywhere. I figure I'll use them to both:

1. Provide light
2. Sterilize my body of harmful microbes (If for example I just mistakenly shook hands with a liberal)
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Then it was on to mindless hours of tractor ridin'
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My brother in law has been busy it would appear.

I didn't cut or stack that future firewood and story-tellin ambiance creatin' sticks
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Re: Hide Site/Bug out Site construction thread, Part 3 (It's gettin' mo-betterer)
« Reply #10 on: September 15, 2016, 11:25:48 AM »
Now, no series of posts I ever make would be complete without a proper Car-Rep (Carnage Report)

Since I seem to be refining the activity of unknowingly, or methodically destroying valuable things I own, I feel it is necessary to categorize the levels of damage.

So, forthwith we shall know the damage as:

Car-Rep 1: Damaged but repairable on scene withing a reasonable length of time

Car-Rep 2: Damaged but requires a run for parts, or outside help

Car-Rep 3: Equipment destroyed and non repairable (Like setting my tractor on fire pushing brush into a raging bonfire)

OK, so we're clear on all that, right?

Movin along: the "B" tractor (For baby) had some problems. as you can see
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Re: Hide Site/Bug out Site construction thread, Part 3 (It's gettin' mo-betterer)
« Reply #11 on: September 15, 2016, 11:27:07 AM »
Pretty self explanatory

These are more subtle...More for the discerning eye if you will...
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Re: Hide Site/Bug out Site construction thread, Part 3 (It's gettin' mo-betterer)
« Reply #12 on: September 15, 2016, 11:28:30 AM »
Parting from the deconstruction of my stuff and my available funds, back to buildin'

Next up, is the installation of the wood burner
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Re: Hide Site/Bug out Site construction thread, Part 3 (It's gettin' mo-betterer)
« Reply #13 on: September 15, 2016, 11:29:55 AM »
I decided not to mount it in the middle of the door, thought that might be a bad idea, so I moved it over to a spot that looks like it was created just for that stove!
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Re: Hide Site/Bug out Site construction thread, Part 3 (It's gettin' mo-betterer)
« Reply #14 on: September 15, 2016, 11:34:40 AM »
It's about 23" from the back wall and 14" from the side wall. Because of it's close proximity to the side, I plan to wrap the area with another layer of ventilated metal, roofing metal, that is that will provide an inch of air gap to further mitigate heat propagation to the spot where it concentrates and causes a Car-Rep 3 report to be generated

Here, I'm punching a hole in the wall, cause I wanted to and, hey, I'm payin for all this!
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Re: Hide Site/Bug out Site construction thread, Part 3 (It's gettin' mo-betterer)
« Reply #15 on: September 15, 2016, 11:37:44 AM »
And here I have determined the proper orientation of the chimney pipe.

Did I mention I studied chimney design at the Dachau school of design?

Yea, that wasn't funny.

I've actually been there...Dachau...Awful place! So many perished there, and now Iran says it never happened! Playing on new found ignorance, lies such as this can be created...
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Re: Hide Site/Bug out Site construction thread, Part 3 (It's gettin' mo-betterer)
« Reply #16 on: September 15, 2016, 11:38:38 AM »
Here is a better way of settin' it up for success!
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Re: Hide Site/Bug out Site construction thread, Part 3 (It's gettin' mo-betterer)
« Reply #17 on: September 15, 2016, 11:41:13 AM »
Now, that pipe is PDH (Pretty Darned Heavy)...That's a grunt term...Everything to them is heavy...

I had to create a cradle and support system for the clean out-T and the soon to come chimney.

I made it out of 2 X 4's and 6's
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Re: Hide Site/Bug out Site construction thread, Part 3 (It's gettin' mo-betterer)
« Reply #18 on: September 15, 2016, 11:43:41 AM »
A fastened that to the wall joists with 390 3" screws and 7808 welding rod, wood fiber variety

One of the above statements is false...

I got a fit lookin' like this. So I have to bridge that final gap to make my life happier
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Re: Hide Site/Bug out Site construction thread, Part 3 (It's gettin' mo-betterer)
« Reply #19 on: September 15, 2016, 11:45:56 AM »
So, I'm good with all that, but not with this yet...The pipe touching the wall.

I mean it rests on the cradle...

This pipe is double wall and filled with something like fire mortar. It's heavy and dense. It's made for this, but I need to read a bit more before I'm satisfied with the design and throw a match inside the box
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Re: Hide Site/Bug out Site construction thread, Part 3 (It's gettin' mo-betterer)
« Reply #20 on: September 15, 2016, 11:48:28 AM »
Another think I have yet to work out is that the stove outlet is sized for 8" pipe

But if you look, the double chimney pipe is sized for 6" pipe!

I checked and the original pipe which I found in the Sarge created debris pile was indeed 6", however no 8" to 6" transition could be found!

Gotta figure that one out
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Re: Hide Site/Bug out Site construction thread, Part 3 (It's gettin' mo-betterer)
« Reply #21 on: September 15, 2016, 11:50:56 AM »
Surprised...No one has interrupted me yet...

I think we have a NDAE (No DOT Activity Event!)

Which is rare indeed!

Like palliated woodpeckers...The big red headed protected things which taste like chicken! Yumm!
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Re: Hide Site/Bug out Site construction thread, Part 3 (It's gettin' mo-betterer)
« Reply #22 on: September 15, 2016, 11:52:47 AM »
Next I finished off the wall with cement board and added a shelf.

The shelf was made from old and very hard oak barn wood I salvaged from the wood pile my wife thinks is a barn
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Re: Hide Site/Bug out Site construction thread, Part 3 (It's gettin' mo-betterer)
« Reply #23 on: September 15, 2016, 11:54:12 AM »
Looking good Don. With all those lights you'll be able to have a tanning salon for the Mrs.

Here's a project for ya for the pre-rangers to enjoy..... ;D

http://www.popularmechanics.com/adventure/outdoors/a22811/enormous-slip-n-slide/


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Re: Hide Site/Bug out Site construction thread, Part 3 (It's gettin' mo-betterer)
« Reply #24 on: September 15, 2016, 11:55:24 AM »
I once observed that a man of peace could be identified when a butterfly lands on him to rest.

While I was bush hogging and destroying it's habitat, a butterfly landed on my shoulder and rode around awhile.

Similarly, I no sooner mounted the shelf, like 5 seconds, when this guy showed up for a rest:
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Re: Hide Site/Bug out Site construction thread, Part 3 (It's gettin' mo-betterer)
« Reply #25 on: September 15, 2016, 11:57:39 AM »
Looking good Don. With all those lights you'll be able to have a tanning salon for the Mrs.

Here's a project for ya for the pre-rangers to enjoy..... ;D

http://www.popularmechanics.com/adventure/outdoors/a22811/enormous-slip-n-slide/


That's psycho...Aussies...

And you my fine Wilburin' friend are the "1-DOT" (First D.O.T er to screw with my thread)
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Re: Hide Site/Bug out Site construction thread, Part 3 (It's gettin' mo-betterer)
« Reply #26 on: September 15, 2016, 11:59:56 AM »
Well, it was on to more pasture weed killin' fun

I try to spend part of the day building in the living area, and part of it improving the land. Some day, I'll have one or the other, more or less, under control.
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Re: Hide Site/Bug out Site construction thread, Part 3 (It's gettin' mo-betterer)
« Reply #27 on: September 15, 2016, 12:03:04 PM »
Tractor-2 overheated several times and blew a hydraulic hose off the steering cylinder and had a flat tire...But I consider that minor any more. I actually had a spare hose down there, so all of that only mounted to a few Car-Rep 1 events!

Oh, and the bush hog pulled off again when one of the lower three point arms fell off (Again)
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Re: Hide Site/Bug out Site construction thread, Part 3 (It's gettin' mo-betterer)
« Reply #28 on: September 15, 2016, 12:04:33 PM »
Here I am deciding which combustible to store next to the stove, and another pic of me pointing at something...
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Re: Hide Site/Bug out Site construction thread, Part 3 (It's gettin' mo-betterer)
« Reply #29 on: September 15, 2016, 12:06:33 PM »
Oh, I remember...

That's the spot where I'm going to cut a sizable hole to heat the upstairs, and for small children to more easily be able to climb down through onto the hot stove...
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Re: Hide Site/Bug out Site construction thread, Part 3 (It's gettin' mo-betterer)
« Reply #30 on: September 15, 2016, 12:16:34 PM »
Don, in here you will find some installation details. As well you may be able to source the transition pieces you need.

http://www.selkirkcorp.com/SuperVent/Product.aspx?id=100

I don't know what brand you have, this one is very common, but may not be what you have.

I think you need a metal wall 'installation' piece, and I'm not sure about the wooden cradle outside. You may want to look at their options as well.

More info, less DOT this time.

All looks good in any case.
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« Reply #31 on: September 15, 2016, 12:16:42 PM »

And you my fine Wilburin' friend are the "1-DOT" (First D.O.T er to screw with my thread)

Well sumbuddy had to step in while the west coasters were sleeping late...  ;D

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Re: Hide Site/Bug out Site construction thread, Part 3 (It's gettin' mo-betterer)
« Reply #32 on: September 15, 2016, 12:18:26 PM »
Don, in here you will find some installation details. As well you may be able to source the transition pieces you need.

http://www.selkirkcorp.com/SuperVent/Product.aspx?id=100

I don't know what brand you have, this one is very common, but may not be what you have.

I think you need a metal wall 'installation' piece, and I'm not sure about the wooden cradle outside. You may want to look at their options as well.

More info, less DOT this time.

All looks good in any case.
^^^^^ That's a good post^^^^^
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Re: Hide Site/Bug out Site construction thread, Part 3 (It's gettin' mo-betterer)
« Reply #33 on: September 15, 2016, 12:22:33 PM »

And you my fine Wilburin' friend are the "1-DOT" (First D.O.T er to screw with my thread)

Well sumbuddy had to step in while the west coasters were sleeping late...  ;D
Proper Spellin' noted! ^^^

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Re: Hide Site/Bug out Site construction thread, Part 3 (It's gettin' mo-betterer)
« Reply #34 on: September 15, 2016, 12:25:21 PM »
Don, a note on using the backwire outlets... the outlets you have pictured are for 15a circuits, (we'll ignore that for now) so the backwire on those will only accept 14ga wire. Wrapping the wire around the screws as you did is a mo-betterer practice anyway, regardless of wire size. I wired my entire garage this way with 15amp plugs I took out of the house (hate the almond color, replaced them all with white).

*i'm not an electrician, so all comments should be taken with a grain of salt.

Carry on good sir!
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« Reply #35 on: September 15, 2016, 01:31:53 PM »
I know several electricians and talked to a few others while doing the remodel.  All of them mentioned that they always wrap around the screw.  From what I understand the good electricians don't use the backwire method.

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Re: Hide Site/Bug out Site construction thread, Part 3 (It's gettin' mo-betterer)
« Reply #36 on: September 15, 2016, 01:32:51 PM »
Don, in here you will find some installation details. As well you may be able to source the transition pieces you need.

http://www.selkirkcorp.com/SuperVent/Product.aspx?id=100

I don't know what brand you have, this one is very common, but may not be what you have.

I think you need a metal wall 'installation' piece, and I'm not sure about the wooden cradle outside. You may want to look at their options as well.

More info, less DOT this time.

All looks good in any case.
^^^^^ That's a good post^^^^^
Don, in here you will find some installation details. As well you may be able to source the transition pieces you need.

http://www.selkirkcorp.com/SuperVent/Product.aspx?id=100

I don't know what brand you have, this one is very common, but may not be what you have.

I think you need a metal wall 'installation' piece, and I'm not sure about the wooden cradle outside. You may want to look at their options as well.

More info, less DOT this time.

All looks good in any case.
Holy crap Sam!

I think I need to re-do that chimney pipe installation!

Just went to that link and THAT is the stuff I need

Gonna be spendy though...

Usin' my SLOWES discount of 10% I'll take it from ridiculous to just crazy expensive...
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Re: Hide Site/Bug out Site construction thread, Part 3 (It's gettin' mo-betterer)
« Reply #37 on: September 15, 2016, 01:36:06 PM »
Don, a note on using the backwire outlets... the outlets you have pictured are for 15a circuits, (we'll ignore that for now) so the backwire on those will only accept 14ga wire. Wrapping the wire around the screws as you did is a mo-betterer practice anyway, regardless of wire size. I wired my entire garage this way with 15amp plugs I took out of the house (hate the almond color, replaced them all with white).

*i'm not an electrician, so all comments should be taken with a grain of salt.

Carry on good sir!
I sort of noticed that when I tried to shove some 12 gage wire into the hole while experimenting...It wouldn't fit!

Hilly-Billy proof! Whatcha know!

I just realized, though that the compressor outlet has a 15 amp outlet on a dedicated 20 amp circuit...Gonna have to change that out.

Well, I'm off to SLOWES to spend some more of my dwindling "Builder-Bucks!"
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Re: Hide Site/Bug out Site construction thread, Part 3 (It's gettin' mo-betterer)
« Reply #38 on: September 15, 2016, 01:57:00 PM »
A true 20-amp plug has the sideways T-shaped neutral pin - accepts standard 15 amp or the 20amp plug like what is on my neighbor's 120V welder.

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Re: Hide Site/Bug out Site construction thread, Part 3 (It's gettin' mo-betterer)
« Reply #39 on: September 15, 2016, 02:03:42 PM »
I sort of noticed that when I tried to shove some 12 gage wire into the hole while experimenting...It wouldn't fit!

Hilly-Billy proof! Whatcha know!


I'm kinda surprised that you didn't just drill the holes out, or shave the wires down to make them fit. ;)
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Re: Hide Site/Bug out Site construction thread, Part 3 (It's gettin' mo-betterer)
« Reply #40 on: September 15, 2016, 02:33:13 PM »
Oh, and notable wave and thumbs to our frozen Canadian friend, Sam, for straightening me out before I generated a building fire and Car-Rep-3 incident!
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Re: Hide Site/Bug out Site construction thread, Part 3 (It's gettin' mo-betterer)
« Reply #41 on: September 15, 2016, 02:34:33 PM »
A true 20-amp plug has the sideways T-shaped neutral pin - accepts standard 15 amp or the 20amp plug like what is on my neighbor's 120V welder.



Thanks

I'm on it!
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Re: Hide Site/Bug out Site construction thread, Part 3 (It's gettin' mo-betterer)
« Reply #42 on: September 15, 2016, 02:39:19 PM »
I sort of noticed that when I tried to shove some 12 gage wire into the hole while experimenting...It wouldn't fit!

Hilly-Billy proof! Whatcha know!


I'm kinda surprised that you didn't just drill the holes out, or shave the wires down to make them fit. ;)
Didn't have the right sized drill bit! ;-))
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Re: Hide Site/Bug out Site construction thread, Part 3 (It's gettin' mo-betterer)
« Reply #43 on: September 15, 2016, 04:10:10 PM »
Is that table saw going to stay there? If so, thought about turning the stove so you have a bit more room to move before you apply clothes or skin to hot metal heater.. Cause it will happen.
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Re: Hide Site/Bug out Site construction thread, Part 3 (It's gettin' mo-betterer)
« Reply #44 on: September 15, 2016, 10:33:28 PM »
First thing to hit the top of that stove will be "Chinook Cooked Shrimp" I predict......what was on that in addition to Old Bay?
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Re: Hide Site/Bug out Site construction thread, Part 3 (It's gettin' mo-betterer)
« Reply #45 on: September 16, 2016, 08:12:35 AM »
First thing to hit the top of that stove will be "Chinook Cooked Shrimp" I predict......what was on that in addition to Old Bay?
Old Bay, small red potatoes and corn cobs cut into three pieces...That's it!

I'll make ya a better batch next time you show up Mike...Those were a bit over done.
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Re: Hide Site/Bug out Site construction thread, Part 3 (It's gettin' mo-betterer)
« Reply #46 on: September 16, 2016, 08:12:52 AM »
Is that table saw going to stay there? If so, thought about turning the stove so you have a bit more room to move before you apply clothes or skin to hot metal heater.. Cause it will happen.
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Re: Hide Site/Bug out Site construction thread, Part 3 (It's gettin' mo-betterer)
« Reply #47 on: September 16, 2016, 08:15:42 AM »
OK, after Sam turned me on to that Canadian stove pipe company, I got to reading a bit more.

I decided to just redo the whole thing. I discovered that SLOWES carries that exact company's products so $703 later, I bought everything new and loaded it into the back of C-Max.

Good lead there, Samuel! Very well build stuff in those boxes, and now I'll have a bomb proof system that will safely heat that shed for the rest of ma' daze!
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Re: Hide Site/Bug out Site construction thread, Part 3 (It's gettin' mo-betterer)
« Reply #48 on: September 16, 2016, 10:32:19 AM »
Seems like the guys in from the cold country know somethin' 'bout fires...who woulda thunk. Heck, I don't even know how to start a fire!
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Re: Hide Site/Bug out Site construction thread, Part 3 (It's gettin' mo-betterer)
« Reply #49 on: September 16, 2016, 02:16:08 PM »
I do! Unleaded gas an an M80 firecracker


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