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Re: Hide Site/Bug out Site construction thread, Part 3 (It's gettin' mo-betterer)
« Reply #50 on: September 16, 2016, 03:09:53 PM »
Don here is a copy of the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) Standards for Chimneys, Fireplaces, Vents and Solid Fuel-Burning Appliances (2003 version).

This was very handy when I built the alcove for my wood stove.
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Re: Hide Site/Bug out Site construction thread, Part 3 (It's gettin' mo-betterer)
« Reply #51 on: September 16, 2016, 06:41:07 PM »
I do! Unleaded gas an an M80 firecracker


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But will that combo detonate Tannerite?!?
I can't access M80's or I'd try it myself... Just the safe distance issue.

Total DOT here.
Glad you took the time now there Don, easier to fix now than later.
Yes it's spendy, but will give you peace of mind for years to come.
Hate for the shed to go up and create the next car-rep.
I just don't want to wind up missing a digit or limb.  I can sometimes get in a hurry to get results.
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Re: Hide Site/Bug out Site construction thread, Part 3 (It's gettin' mo-betterer)
« Reply #52 on: September 16, 2016, 08:23:56 PM »
I appreciate all the help!

So today I went to the hide again and sort of installed the new Canadian chimney parts...Right up to the point where I was sticking on the first long section of outside riser
Someone installed a roof overhang in the way!

I needed to build the mount 6" past the wall which made my inside transition pipe about 8" too short

I'm looking at another trip to lowes to change out the 12" pipe. After that and cutting the stove pipe to proper length and I'm going to have one slick setup

Meanwhile I'm back to wiring things and hitting my fingers!
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Re: Hide Site/Bug out Site construction thread, Part 3 (It's gettin' mo-betterer)
« Reply #53 on: September 16, 2016, 08:27:32 PM »
Better than burning that sucker down for sure.

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Re: Hide Site/Bug out Site construction thread, Part 3 (It's gettin' mo-betterer)
« Reply #54 on: September 16, 2016, 08:33:20 PM »
M80s are a mythical firecracker that was purportedly equal to 1/4 stick of dynamite. (It's not) they are probably about 30-40 black cat equivalent so make a good bang. They'll light a pile of gas but not tannerite. Tannerite requires a projectile shock wave of 2000fps or greater


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Re: Hide Site/Bug out Site construction thread, Part 3 (It's gettin' mo-betterer)
« Reply #55 on: September 16, 2016, 08:37:29 PM »
But will that combo detonate Tannerite?!?

No Tannerite won't detonate with that as the initiating device.

Per their Wiki page:
 " The combination is relatively stable when subjected to forces less severe than a high-velocity bullet impact, such as a hammer blow, being dropped, or impact from a low-velocity bullet or shotgun blast.[2] It is also not flammable ? an explosion cannot be created by a burning fuse or electricity."

Per their home page:
 "Tannerite? will not cause a fire, can not be initiated by any method other than a center fire rifle"
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Re: Hide Site/Bug out Site construction thread, Part 3 (It's gettin' mo-betterer)
« Reply #56 on: September 16, 2016, 09:09:05 PM »
Got a DOT goin on here

Think I'll just sit back and watch what happens
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Re: Hide Site/Bug out Site construction thread, Part 3 (It's gettin' mo-betterer)
« Reply #57 on: September 17, 2016, 03:21:58 PM »
Just getting back from another couple days down at the hide.

Had both:

1. A UNE (Unnatural, Natural event)

and

2. A UTE (Unintentional Turkey Encounter)

The UNE is a sled dog, not naturally occuring in these parts coming in very close proximity to a turkey of about the same size.
That just ain't right, thus it becomes unnatural, although dogs encounter other edible creatures and that is very natural

It was a UTE since the dog was sleepin' whilst a big hen strolls into my back yard at the farm. The dog, spooked by my throwing something at it decides to relocate. The dog unwittingly walks right up on this monster (Godzilla like) turkey who was brazen enough to be walkin around in my yard during daylight hours while I am knockin' and bangin' on things and blessing my latest finger smashin' event (FSE)

I actually heard it before I saw it. I hear this unhold gobble/scream and my lightening fast reflexes has me by a window maybe 30 feet away from the sled dog almost nose to nose with this thing which I know she is evaluating as a meal. The bird just exploded in a mad whooshing of wings which had a frightening effect on the sled dog and the bird made good it's escape.

Would you know it, this morning that darned bird came back!

Now that's pure crap!

I have a sled dog, perhaps 100lbs of very near wolf like mannerisms and the little german soldier who runs away at first indication of trouble. Neither of these stalwart warriors seem to have any effect on this Turkey who seems to be challenging them somewhat

What next? A lying, cheatin' communist president?
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Re: Hide Site/Bug out Site construction thread, Part 3 (It's gettin' mo-betterer)
« Reply #58 on: September 17, 2016, 04:31:47 PM »
OK, Tool time

Since I'm trimming the cedar trees to become parts of my ever expanding shed/house, I picked up these quality EastWing axes to cut the knobbies down a bit before I continue to process the log.

I didn't have time to use them this time as I was cut a bit short due to inclement weather
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Re: Hide Site/Bug out Site construction thread, Part 3 (It's gettin' mo-betterer)
« Reply #59 on: September 17, 2016, 04:33:32 PM »
Because of Sam's recommendation and since his neighbor is Santa Claus, I hunted down the quality Chimney parts he recommended
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Re: Hide Site/Bug out Site construction thread, Part 3 (It's gettin' mo-betterer)
« Reply #60 on: September 17, 2016, 04:34:36 PM »
The quality is superb. The stuff is made in Canada, which I have found to be as good or better than US made stuff
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Re: Hide Site/Bug out Site construction thread, Part 3 (It's gettin' mo-betterer)
« Reply #61 on: September 17, 2016, 04:36:21 PM »
The tool rack seems to expand a bit more each time I visit.

My goal is to improve the site each time I go down there, to have more capability, and be closer to actually be able to go it alone and off grid there
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Re: Hide Site/Bug out Site construction thread, Part 3 (It's gettin' mo-betterer)
« Reply #62 on: September 17, 2016, 04:37:44 PM »
This box has the wall mount for the "T" pipe and will support the weight of the upright Chimney sections, which will rise 9 feet above the wall outlet
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Re: Hide Site/Bug out Site construction thread, Part 3 (It's gettin' mo-betterer)
« Reply #63 on: September 17, 2016, 04:38:39 PM »
First I had to enlarge the hole in the wall I cut out a few days ago
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Re: Hide Site/Bug out Site construction thread, Part 3 (It's gettin' mo-betterer)
« Reply #64 on: September 17, 2016, 04:39:45 PM »
Then, the outside metal bulkhead part is screwed into place
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Re: Hide Site/Bug out Site construction thread, Part 3 (It's gettin' mo-betterer)
« Reply #65 on: September 17, 2016, 04:41:27 PM »
As you can see, a chamber is created with dead space between the stove pipe and the double steel panel. The outside fixture creates one layer of steel, while the interior wall thimble creates the second.

Its a slick setup
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Re: Hide Site/Bug out Site construction thread, Part 3 (It's gettin' mo-betterer)
« Reply #66 on: September 17, 2016, 04:42:47 PM »
I cut and modified the cement wall board then reattached and slid home the thimble piece
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Re: Hide Site/Bug out Site construction thread, Part 3 (It's gettin' mo-betterer)
« Reply #67 on: September 17, 2016, 04:44:22 PM »
OK, Tool time

Since I'm trimming the cedar trees to become parts of my ever expanding shed/house, I picked up these quality EastWing axes to cut the knobbies down a bit before I continue to process the log.

I didn't have time to use them this time as I was cut a bit short due to inclement weather

I have the short handled 5# maul for splitting kindling, it's very nice
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Re: Hide Site/Bug out Site construction thread, Part 3 (It's gettin' mo-betterer)
« Reply #68 on: September 17, 2016, 04:45:17 PM »
The "T" section requires you to add a transition pipe to the inside. I had selected a 12" section which soon proved to be a bit too short.

This "T" section just reeks of quality
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Re: Hide Site/Bug out Site construction thread, Part 3 (It's gettin' mo-betterer)
« Reply #69 on: September 17, 2016, 04:46:16 PM »
OK, Tool time

Since I'm trimming the cedar trees to become parts of my ever expanding shed/house, I picked up these quality EastWing axes to cut the knobbies down a bit before I continue to process the log.

I didn't have time to use them this time as I was cut a bit short due to inclement weather

I have the short handled 5# maul for splitting kindling, it's very nice
I was going to get mine marred up later today if the rain not started
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Re: Hide Site/Bug out Site construction thread, Part 3 (It's gettin' mo-betterer)
« Reply #70 on: September 17, 2016, 04:47:14 PM »
Then I assembled the three piece base, slid the "T" home and slid up the base and screwed it to two studa
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Re: Hide Site/Bug out Site construction thread, Part 3 (It's gettin' mo-betterer)
« Reply #71 on: September 17, 2016, 04:50:44 PM »
I thought I was cookin' with bacon grease and the project was just zipping along. But, wait a minute...Look at the distance of that pipe from the wall, and how far out the eve is setting...

Yep, I was about 6" too close to the building

Not knowing that I attached the stove pipe adapter. Notice that these sections sort of "Screw" together maybe an eighth of a turn
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Re: Hide Site/Bug out Site construction thread, Part 3 (It's gettin' mo-betterer)
« Reply #72 on: September 17, 2016, 04:52:22 PM »
Here is a section of chimney pipe which measures 36" long and the very pipe that showed me I was way too close to the eve to make this actually fit properly.
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Re: Hide Site/Bug out Site construction thread, Part 3 (It's gettin' mo-betterer)
« Reply #73 on: September 17, 2016, 04:54:02 PM »
So, as a solution to the problem, I simply built a base outward from the wall from four sections of 2 X 6, each an inch shorter than the one beneath. I used long t-25 wood screws to fasten the pieces. Afterward it was a solid mass, so I painted it
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Re: Hide Site/Bug out Site construction thread, Part 3 (It's gettin' mo-betterer)
« Reply #74 on: September 17, 2016, 04:55:10 PM »
It's the tuck, just notch the roof!!! ???
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Re: Hide Site/Bug out Site construction thread, Part 3 (It's gettin' mo-betterer)
« Reply #75 on: September 17, 2016, 04:57:14 PM »
This outward spacing pulled the stubby pipe section inside the wall, rendering it useless in my application so, until I visited SLOWES once more, the Chimney project is dead in the water, but easily completed with just a couple replacement pieces

So it was back to wiring. First up was the three gang switch box and the 20 amp compressor circuit
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Re: Hide Site/Bug out Site construction thread, Part 3 (It's gettin' mo-betterer)
« Reply #76 on: September 17, 2016, 04:58:48 PM »
Wires are now piling in around the breaker panel!
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Re: Hide Site/Bug out Site construction thread, Part 3 (It's gettin' mo-betterer)
« Reply #77 on: September 17, 2016, 05:00:31 PM »
I pulled a bunch more wire and wired in several more 15 amp outlet boxes
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Re: Hide Site/Bug out Site construction thread, Part 3 (It's gettin' mo-betterer)
« Reply #78 on: September 17, 2016, 05:02:21 PM »
The wife decided where I wanted the sink, frig, and washer/dryer...

And with that, I am mission complete for today, and in a few off to SLOWES to change out things and buy a bunch of new stuff!
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Re: Hide Site/Bug out Site construction thread, Part 3 (It's gettin' mo-betterer)
« Reply #79 on: September 17, 2016, 06:34:18 PM »
due to inclement weather

Pilots sure do love using the inclement weather card....


Just go out in the rain and use the axes..  ;D
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Re: Hide Site/Bug out Site construction thread, Part 3 (It's gettin' mo-betterer)
« Reply #80 on: September 17, 2016, 08:25:29 PM »
due to inclement weather

Pilots sure do love using the inclement weather card....


Just go out in the rain and use the axes..  ;D
Too Late, I already cancelled the mission! ;-))
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Re: Hide Site/Bug out Site construction thread, Part 3 (It's gettin' mo-betterer)
« Reply #81 on: September 17, 2016, 09:22:58 PM »
Those pieces do look well made.
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Re: Hide Site/Bug out Site construction thread, Part 3 (It's gettin' mo-betterer)
« Reply #82 on: September 17, 2016, 09:47:07 PM »
Those Estwing axes are nice! Lots of good progress


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Re: Hide Site/Bug out Site construction thread, Part 3 (It's gettin' mo-betterer)
« Reply #83 on: September 17, 2016, 09:55:44 PM »
Don, just don't let the red liquid out when you miss fire on a knot. Been there done that

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« Reply #84 on: September 17, 2016, 10:08:40 PM »
Too Late, I already cancelled the mission! ;-))


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Re: Hide Site/Bug out Site construction thread, Part 3 (It's gettin' mo-betterer)
« Reply #85 on: September 17, 2016, 10:32:16 PM »
Don, just don't let the red liquid out when you miss fire on a knot. Been there done that
I'll do my best!

I think that right after I get the chimney in and the stove running, I'll take a break from wiring and cut a couple cords of firewood for the winter. I'll use those EastWings on the branches

Hopefully without blood loss of any great magnitude!
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Re: Hide Site/Bug out Site construction thread, Part 3 (It's gettin' mo-betterer)
« Reply #86 on: September 17, 2016, 11:26:08 PM »
I didn't see a picture of the full size maul? You know the heavy hitter that you will be needing if you're honestly going to be splitting wood by hand. Not saying you won't but I thought pilots liked hydraulic equipment....... ;)
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Re: Hide Site/Bug out Site construction thread, Part 3 (It's gettin' mo-betterer)
« Reply #87 on: September 18, 2016, 06:56:11 PM »
I didn't see a picture of the full size maul? You know the heavy hitter that you will be needing if you're honestly going to be splitting wood by hand. Not saying you won't but I thought pilots liked hydraulic equipment....... ;)
We definitely like hydraulic power

Like standing some logs on end then using the front loader edge to split those suckers

We like stuff like that!
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Re: Hide Site/Bug out Site construction thread, Part 3 (It's gettin' mo-betterer)
« Reply #88 on: September 19, 2016, 09:05:56 PM »
Well today the chimney got installed!

All nine feet of it

And the final connections were made to the stove. Tomorrow morning I'll test fire it to see if I have anything else left to do like high temp silicone. But at this point it's solid!
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Re: Hide Site/Bug out Site construction thread, Part 3 (It's gettin' mo-betterer)
« Reply #89 on: September 19, 2016, 10:04:48 PM »
I didn't see a picture of the full size maul? You know the heavy hitter that you will be needing if you're honestly going to be splitting wood by hand. Not saying you won't but I thought pilots liked hydraulic equipment....... ;)
We definitely like hydraulic power

Like standing some logs on end then using the front loader edge to split those suckers

We like stuff like that!

if your serious don't mess around buy on of these, I begged my dad to buy one before I left for the military he said nope "its for lazy people"  Guess what was what was sitting there when I came home on leave two years later?  I could barely keep up with it, just rolling the log over to the hyd arm and them stacking what it split was a challenge but my dad thought it was funny.

  http://www.timberwolfcorp.com/log-splitters/

he bought the TW-6

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Re: Hide Site/Bug out Site construction thread, Part 3 (It's gettin' mo-betterer)
« Reply #90 on: September 20, 2016, 09:20:54 AM »
Copy that!

I've already been dropping hints about my Christmas present...

But in the spirit of a homestead/hide site, l feel I always need a manual means of getting essentials done
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Re: Hide Site/Bug out Site construction thread, Part 3 (It's gettin' mo-betterer)
« Reply #92 on: September 20, 2016, 03:26:38 PM »
Oh boy I like that, but really no need.

Now, Don on the other hand....all I can picture is him cutting it up, turning it sideways, and using it to down live trees (since he can't seem to do it with a brush hog) .

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« Reply #93 on: September 20, 2016, 04:14:15 PM »
Copy that, I envision the tractor laying on its side & that will be his "story"...... ;)
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Re: Hide Site/Bug out Site construction thread, Part 3 (It's gettin' mo-betterer)
« Reply #94 on: September 20, 2016, 05:12:02 PM »
http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200632933_200632933?cm_mmc=Google-pla&utm_source=Google_PLA&utm_medium=Logging%20%3E%20Log%20Splitters&utm_campaign=Powerhorse&utm_content=11965&gclid=CIzDyIbPns8CFU08gQod1W4EMQ

What I'm eyeballing.  One less motor to keep running since its powered off the tractor

you will be very disappointed with that unit!  they are better than nothing but a lot of work and most "small" tractor hyd systems are not up to the task.

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« Reply #95 on: September 20, 2016, 07:42:40 PM »
Phil,  thanks for the feedback.  Can you elaborate?  Seemed to match up with the hydraulics on my Kubota OK.
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« Reply #96 on: September 20, 2016, 08:43:46 PM »
TRN, build your own. I've done it couple times now, in fact I have one sitting in my shop here.....
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« Reply #97 on: September 20, 2016, 10:03:08 PM »
I thought about that Shawn but the cylinder, valve and pump costs almost what that whole set up costs. Well I guess I don't need a pump. If I didn't have 82 projects in line already it might be more appealing.


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Re: Hide Site/Bug out Site construction thread, Part 3 (It's gettin' mo-betterer)
« Reply #98 on: September 20, 2016, 10:08:30 PM »
Surplus center & use a cylinder twice that size...... ;)
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Re: Hide Site/Bug out Site construction thread, Part 3 (It's gettin' mo-betterer)
« Reply #99 on: September 20, 2016, 10:11:34 PM »
...and paint it red. :)
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