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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
« Reply #350 on: January 01, 2018, 09:25:44 PM »
Darned hole has a foot of water in it and some minor cave in on the sides...Have to fill those spaces in ;-0
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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
« Reply #351 on: January 01, 2018, 09:27:18 PM »
Almost lost it here, as in roll over of the thing which was strapped to the tractor!
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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
« Reply #352 on: January 01, 2018, 09:29:57 PM »
But, very slowly, inch by inch...
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« Reply #353 on: January 01, 2018, 09:39:54 PM »
And I had good help from two buddies from church who had spent the day there bow hunting (Saw seven, but with a bow, all were out of range)

Next, I'll throw in the joists, cover the deck with 3/4" plywood. Then cover that with roof felt down to the ground on all sides, backfill with dirt and put proper decking over that and finish with some railing, the mulch from the chipper and a couple shrubs and call that little thing a done deal.
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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
« Reply #354 on: January 01, 2018, 09:42:01 PM »
I anchored it with 5/16" X 8" timber-lock bolts, ten in total, so it isn't going anywhere soon!

End of a successful day! What a great feeling.
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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
« Reply #355 on: January 01, 2018, 10:58:45 PM »
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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
« Reply #356 on: January 01, 2018, 11:15:24 PM »
Looks great. Should I ask how you planning to fill the holes in,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, :facepalm:
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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
« Reply #357 on: January 02, 2018, 12:06:54 AM »
Nicest crapper in the tuck no doubt, almost as nice as that red hat you were wearing !


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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
« Reply #358 on: January 02, 2018, 10:22:48 PM »
Looks great. Should I ask how you planning to fill the holes in,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, :facepalm:
Happens naturally, I hear...!
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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
« Reply #359 on: January 03, 2018, 08:22:31 PM »
Neck, I cut about half of those arches you suggested today. These are just a tad larger to try and keep the appropriate scale. Hauling some down farmside in the morrow.
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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
« Reply #360 on: January 03, 2018, 08:27:26 PM »
OK, so tomorrow I'll put up those, build the steps to the deck, and start the shed project there called "12 square"

It will be a 12' X 12'

I get a 26 ton load of dense grade tomorrow, which I'll scrape and massage into a 13 X 13 level pad, then build the deck directly on the ground. Thinking about it, I decided late today not to go boring a bunch of holes and making the thing taxable and permanent. This way I can stick two paddles out of the windows and use it as a boat when this darned relentless cold abates and we resume the global warming which will melt the ice caps and give me ocean front property.

That's the whole deck surface and sub structure right there, along with a few bags of crete to help stabilize things

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http://real-man-truckworks-and-survival.com/index.php?topic=3249.new#new
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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
« Reply #361 on: January 03, 2018, 10:06:09 PM »
And, in the spirit of constantly adding capability and abilities to get things done, I picked up a new framer bels with suspenders

I'll throw in that knife/chisel that Kyle recommended, a Stanley 20 oz hammer, extra wide 30' tape measure, rafter square, level, knife, pencils and of course some sharp things to impale my fingers on.

Never heard of the brand, but with knowing the dogs will chew on it, I'll leave it outside a time or two, run it over with sarge, and forget that its under that pile of brush that is burning, who cares!
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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
« Reply #362 on: January 04, 2018, 02:37:27 AM »
Uh oh... another ?square? thread...


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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
« Reply #363 on: January 04, 2018, 06:31:32 AM »
Do you have a good chalk line?


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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
« Reply #364 on: January 04, 2018, 08:02:26 AM »
I got my chiselthingy that kyle recommended as well.  Pretty cool little tool.

Don  one suggestion from the cheap seats, if I may.  A good plumb bob has been indispensable for me in building my casita.  With bows and such in lumber the plumb bob helps me get stuff straight.  Especially working by myself where I can hang it from a nail and go  to the bottom of the wall and make adjustments and fasten while watching the bob.
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« Reply #365 on: January 04, 2018, 08:21:48 AM »
In a pinch most chalk lines these days are built to act as a plumb bob. Not as good as an actual plumb bob but pretty accurate.

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« Reply #366 on: January 04, 2018, 08:35:09 AM »
Jared, keep an eye out for a post in your oracle section.  I have some questions about doors in 2x6 walls.
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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
« Reply #367 on: January 05, 2018, 12:29:41 AM »
So you are building an ARK now?? That will be a thread!!!
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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
« Reply #368 on: January 06, 2018, 12:26:56 PM »
Thawing out, give me a bit and I'll post up the latest improvements

When I started yesterday it was +1F...Worked outside all day, into the night

Then drive home

Hot bath

Must have fallen asleep

Now its morning and I found three areas that aren't sore...

Off to a wrestling meet...I hear I'm working at it :-(((
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« Reply #369 on: January 06, 2018, 01:13:20 PM »
bet you could rig up a heated toilet seat for the mrs that runs on a 20v dewalt battery.....
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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
« Reply #370 on: January 06, 2018, 05:10:19 PM »
^^^THIS^^^    :shocked:
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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
« Reply #371 on: January 06, 2018, 07:14:11 PM »
I'm gonna spare Tex the obvious comment(s) and leave that one alone!

OK, movin on. I have no doubt spent the hardest work day of my life yesterday. I think I am still recoverin'

Wow, what a day. It was around 0F in the morning then again at night on the other end of a lot of stuff. I just stayed in it. Started the day with a bowl of cereal at, what 0630ish, then when it got light enough to do stuff I was in it to win it. That lasted until under protest, my body just shut down after dark sometime. The cold got to me along with the utter fatigue.

I think that for a man to work that hard in temps that low (Low for the Tuck) is a good thing. Yea, I hurt all over, but I did not give in to it. At one point my Frau called and told me to get indoors and stop working. I mumbled something about being a soldier, and she countered with something like I wasn't a soldier any longer, and I mentioned it is not something we do, it is what we are, as in present tense. We argued, she hung up on me and I went back at it!

So, the objective was to get the shed foundation in and the deck screwed down to it to create a square dance platform for the upcoming polka party I have planned for the third of NEVER!

I got that done.

But the project had to start with my putting in a level gravel base and starting up from that.

Remember how I have stated that the "Road" into my place is cursed? Well the tri-axle blew out his PTO shaft which killed gravel delivery I had set for Thursday in the AM.

Since that wasn't happening, I was off to the next most pressing project, which I felt were adding steps to the newly built deck
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« Reply #372 on: January 06, 2018, 07:21:10 PM »
Oops, The Warrant Officer meant to say, repair the busted water lines. yep, that's it...water leaks

So I think I have found the limits of the effectiveness of this water containment structure. It has bees in the single digits, dipping well below zero for awhile now, and that has frozen up things I have never before seen frozen.

Those two big water tanks...330 gal ea...THose? Yep, frozen.

Pumps, lines, filter...Yep, frozen

Water availability to the camper: Zero point nothing!

So first up was to get some heat going in there and pull out some electrical "Heat cord" I purchases a long time ago.

I pulled the insulation wrap off the outside line, wrapped that sucker, then looped the cord all over things I didn't want to freeze on the inside
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« Reply #373 on: January 06, 2018, 07:23:14 PM »
Heat works quite well, I discovered. THose tanks went from ice to some water in about four hours and the faucets inside the camper returned to a really cold version of normal
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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
« Reply #374 on: January 06, 2018, 07:25:02 PM »
Shortly after thawing I discovered the water filter housing was severely cracked, so I had to bypass it completely
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« Reply #375 on: January 06, 2018, 07:29:27 PM »
The PEX tubing works remarkably well, suffering no known cracks or leaks

I had to run every heater I had on site, and for that I fired up the 5.5KW gen which goes right through a tank of fuel. I exhausted that fuel around 0440 Friday morning, and around 0600, I was all frozen up again.

I am able to maintain the hot oil heater in the structure to prevent more damage, but without more electrons, I can kiss that outside supply line good bye.

I do have a plan to reroute the hot water heater exhaust (Propane powered) to a box I think I'll put together all around that line. It might just push this over the top...Who knows!
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« Reply #376 on: January 06, 2018, 07:33:15 PM »
OK, back to the steps.

First you don't see them

And then you do!

Thee is a pretty big lip overhanging the step which will catch one's foot. It is there because I forgot to bring my scroll saw which I was going to use to make a "Cute" little curved cutout in the deck that the wife would like, but I care little to nothing about! ;-)
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« Reply #377 on: January 06, 2018, 07:34:03 PM »
And for the meantime, everything is holding OK
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« Reply #378 on: January 06, 2018, 07:42:04 PM »
Oh, and allow me to give CarHartt a plug for an excellent HD work jacket. I layered with a cotton T, Midweight hoodless Fleece sweatshirt, and that gem of a hooded CarHartt. I chased that with thick socks, flannel jams under some Army Multicam combat trousers and I was GTG for the duration.

Oh and my Elmer Fudd red n black plaid, fur lined "birth control head wear"

Ah, forgot me gloves. leather work gloves. My recipe: First coat your hands with that 3-way antibiotic cream, followed with bees wax and when your hands are the same consistency as the CV axle boot on a month old Prius of other kolean kar, shove em in those gloves and get to hammerin' on things.
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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
« Reply #379 on: January 06, 2018, 07:45:34 PM »
Remember your first axiom of work?

To be able to work, one must first work

So to be able to do the dirt (Ice??) work I made the tractor (The just paid off one!!!) go from summer mode to winter mode:
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« Reply #380 on: January 06, 2018, 07:49:57 PM »
First up was to get the gravel delivered and put down

You're looking at a $1,000 bill right here, some 52 tons of stuff we call Dense-Grade.

Amazing stuff that will work like sand or any light gravel, but once you put the weight to it, as New Yorkers like to say, "Forget ah bout it." It's like the third ice age kind of solid, as in aint moving, as in "you really want to dig that out by hand, boy? What chew thinkin' about anyway?"
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« Reply #381 on: January 06, 2018, 07:52:56 PM »
Then I had to rebuild that poorly thrown together rock wall (Ranger wall) the boys have labored on. That and add a bunch more "Bob-the-builders" to its height, bedding everything in with the third ice age stuff. Did I mention that was like, back breaking work?
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« Reply #382 on: January 06, 2018, 07:55:43 PM »
Next came the grading in and building of the actual pad on which the shed will rest

Here's the spot, marked by the sled dog who had instructions to go find the location of the new shed and park her butt right in the equatorial center...She did!
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« Reply #383 on: January 06, 2018, 07:57:39 PM »
Then the gravel games began
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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
« Reply #384 on: January 06, 2018, 08:00:37 PM »
Go to the "12 Square Shed build for the detail located here:
 
http://real-man-truckworks-and-survival.com/index.php?topic=3249.msg68320#msg68320
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« Reply #385 on: January 06, 2018, 08:04:13 PM »
But with a goal in mind of having a deck to stand on at day's end in mind, after a whole lot more work, I arrived here, almost square dance ready.

Actually I got all the sheets on, but my camera finger stopped operating due to being frozen in a hooked position accurately showing the outside dimension of a DeWalt 20 volt screw gun.
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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
« Reply #386 on: January 07, 2018, 11:31:45 AM »
Just a question here, cause something dose not seem right or maybe im just jumping ahead.....?

Are you building that shed base flat on the ground with absolutely no barrier between the wood and ground (read quick wood rot), or are you going to put that thing up on some pier blocks?
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« Reply #387 on: January 07, 2018, 11:47:05 AM »
I do believe I read it the same as you, he plans on leaving it in/on the ground. 


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« Reply #388 on: January 07, 2018, 11:51:52 AM »
Maybe all the rock provides enough drainage...?


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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
« Reply #389 on: January 07, 2018, 01:31:22 PM »
Drainage i dont believe would be the problem, i believe the problem to be the fact that raw wood is in contact with the bare ground?
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« Reply #390 on: January 07, 2018, 01:32:32 PM »
Come on guys, if bossman  was going to leave it on the ground so it might rot, he would've used pressure treated, right?  (Sarc) 

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« Reply #391 on: January 07, 2018, 04:09:44 PM »
Come on guys, if bossman  was going to leave it on the ground so it might rot, he would've used pressure treated, right?  (Sarc) 

This post is just to prove that I'm not worthy of my job here.


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« Reply #392 on: January 08, 2018, 01:35:06 AM »
Think he said he was building as is to avoid the tax man. Now PT on gravel shouldn't be to bad and he is on a hill.

Now I know why I don't like cold and lots of snow. Fun to visit, not to live,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
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« Reply #393 on: January 08, 2018, 04:00:31 PM »
Simmer down there little doggies!

The base is pressure treated lumber rated for direct ground contact

It is resting on a gravel base which is elevated from the surrounding ground

THe fill inside the voids, below the OSB is some distance below the actual plywood

THe roof system will have about a 10" overhang and I'll do something around the base along with rain gutters.

I've done this sort of construction before...It works fine for longevity. Termites are a greater threat than rot, believe me!

And me driving anything wheeled or tracked anywhere IVO any structure is a greater threat than termites...
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« Reply #394 on: January 08, 2018, 04:09:59 PM »
Only thing I might have done different for a portable structure would have been to use treated plywood for the floor. It's pretty pricey but tough and a solid floor at 3/4" thick. My current shed sitting on treated posts uses this same material.
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« Reply #395 on: January 08, 2018, 10:32:18 PM »
Oh I guess boss did use PT on the base. My bad.   Wink wink

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« Reply #396 on: January 09, 2018, 12:07:42 AM »
Only thing I might have done different for a portable structure would have been to use treated plywood for the floor. It's pretty pricey but tough and a solid floor at 3/4" thick. My current shed sitting on treated posts uses this same material.

I was thinking the same.
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« Reply #397 on: January 09, 2018, 05:57:13 PM »
Oh I guess boss did use PT on the base. My bad.   Wink wink

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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
« Reply #398 on: January 09, 2018, 09:16:32 PM »
If you put a front porch on the east side you could use more wood


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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
« Reply #399 on: January 16, 2018, 10:14:59 PM »
Couple of things

The 12 X 12 shed project is coming together in my workshop at my home. When finished, it will be broken down, and reassembled on the foundation already created on site.

Secondly, I am completing purchase of my next piece of capital equipment, a Kubota SVL-75 Compact Track Loader.

I anticipate delivery in a week to 10 days.
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