Author Topic: OverLanding Camper Build (Read 74996 times)

Flyin6 · « **Reply #550 on:** January 07, 2020, 09:38:12 PM »

So I got this sound proofing insulation stuff with an adhesive back for the generator compartment and the top of the frig compartment to give that thing a break from the heat. We'll soon see how it works

Bigdave_185 · « **Reply #551 on:** January 07, 2020, 09:55:42 PM »

Can you take a closer photo of the glides you put horizontal vs vertical. My thinks is they will pop with some weight on them.
It looks like a standard drawer glide and if you pull it apart the arm from the bearings. The only thing holding the weight is the bearings in the track. I’d suggest building a tray like in the burb or Teflon skids or I can go through a catalog at work and see but I am guessing your limited to height because of the cooler dimensions?
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Flyin6 · « **Reply #552 on:** January 07, 2020, 10:26:09 PM »

Quote from: Bigdave_185 on January 07, 2020, 09:55:42 PM

Can you take a closer photo of the glides you put horizontal vs vertical. My thinks is they will pop with some weight on them.
It looks like a standard drawer glide and if you pull it apart the arm from the bearings. The only thing holding the weight is the bearings in the track. I’d suggest building a tray like in the burb or Teflon skids or I can go through a catalog at work and see but I am guessing your limited to height because of the cooler dimensions?
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Dave, they are of the same design as a drawer slide, I think, but way, way heavier.

I was pushing down on the slide with it extended, and I could get deflection, but that's it. Have you worked with the industrial slides? That's what these are, maybe 30-35 pounds for the pair.

I'll check all that out tomorrow when I get back from cutting firewood

And yes, had to go flat or I'd be sacrificing 3" height to get them in there vertical.

Bigdave_185 · « **Reply #553 on:** January 07, 2020, 11:39:27 PM »

Quote from: Flyin6 on January 07, 2020, 10:26:09 PM

Quote from: Bigdave_185 on January 07, 2020, 09:55:42 PM
Can you take a closer photo of the glides you put horizontal vs vertical. My thinks is they will pop with some weight on them.
It looks like a standard drawer glide and if you pull it apart the arm from the bearings. The only thing holding the weight is the bearings in the track. I’d suggest building a tray like in the burb or Teflon skids or I can go through a catalog at work and see but I am guessing your limited to height because of the cooler dimensions?
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Dave, they are of the same design as a drawer slide, I think, but way, way heavier.

I was pushing down on the slide with it extended, and I could get deflection, but that's it. Have you worked with the industrial slides? That's what these are, maybe 30-35 pounds for the pair.

I'll check all that out tomorrow when I get back from cutting firewood

And yes, had to go flat or I'd be sacrificing 3" height to get them in there vertical.

I have worked with lots of and many types

I pose you build a U shape tray to hold your cooler. You can save your height and continue to have the structural strength of the glides. Width would be sacrificed but... I think it’s worth it

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KensAuto · « **Reply #554 on:** January 08, 2020, 08:40:28 AM »

So is this a way to make money off the Air Force guys? ... this travelling Hilton on wheels?

Flyin6 · « **Reply #555 on:** January 08, 2020, 06:01:46 PM »

Quote from: Bigdave_185 on January 07, 2020, 11:39:27 PM

Quote from: Flyin6 on January 07, 2020, 10:26:09 PM
Quote from: Bigdave_185 on January 07, 2020, 09:55:42 PM
Can you take a closer photo of the glides you put horizontal vs vertical. My thinks is they will pop with some weight on them.
It looks like a standard drawer glide and if you pull it apart the arm from the bearings. The only thing holding the weight is the bearings in the track. I’d suggest building a tray like in the burb or Teflon skids or I can go through a catalog at work and see but I am guessing your limited to height because of the cooler dimensions?
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Dave, they are of the same design as a drawer slide, I think, but way, way heavier.

I was pushing down on the slide with it extended, and I could get deflection, but that's it. Have you worked with the industrial slides? That's what these are, maybe 30-35 pounds for the pair.

I'll check all that out tomorrow when I get back from cutting firewood

And yes, had to go flat or I'd be sacrificing 3" height to get them in there vertical.

I have worked with lots of and many types

I pose you build a U shape tray to hold your cooler. You can save your height and continue to have the structural strength of the glides. Width would be sacrificed but... I think it’s worth it

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That's not a bad idea.

Let me take some measurements

But not today...spent all day outside in the cold cutting trees down, then loading and stackin' firewood...I'm beat!

Flyin6 · « **Reply #556 on:** January 09, 2020, 08:28:20 PM »

Started today with sound proofing the gen compartment

Well, I'm sure "not soundproofing" but maybe taking a little of the buzz away

Flyin6 · « **Reply #557 on:** January 09, 2020, 08:29:14 PM »

I overlapped some but overall very easy to work with

Flyin6 · « **Reply #558 on:** January 09, 2020, 08:30:20 PM »

I ran the remainder of that sheet in the electrical compartment

Flyin6 · « **Reply #559 on:** January 09, 2020, 08:35:37 PM »

Then I went around every surface that will fit a door, hinge, vent, latch, or similar with single stage bed liner. Most of the surfaces will get coated over with the good two part urethane stuff in due course, but with wanting to get some reassembly of the doors and hatches done, I chose this method to get something permanent beneath all the hardware

The stuff sold at Harbor Freight, as inexpensive as it is, is the best stuff I used on my Chevy this year. I sprayed the bumpers early in the spring and after a spring/summer/fall and a lot of rough use, it has held up just great. It is even still shiney, so I am more than comfortable with using it for spotting in areas

Flyin6 · « **Reply #560 on:** January 09, 2020, 08:37:36 PM »

Then I took Dave's advice and removed and reinstalled the frig slides correctly.

He was right, and I was trying to get away with a fast one, but I want it strong and not some compromise.

First I had to fir out the compartment sides to fit the opening

Flyin6 · « **Reply #561 on:** January 09, 2020, 08:38:09 PM »

Just check out how beefy these slides are:

Flyin6 · « **Reply #562 on:** January 09, 2020, 08:40:23 PM »

Dave suggested I build a "U" shaped tray to retain as much height as possible, so that's what I did, and it turned out great, although I did lose some width.

I had my older pre-Ranger sit on the slide as I pulled it out and slid it in and it moved like greased hot butter!

Flyin6 · « **Reply #563 on:** January 09, 2020, 08:41:39 PM »

Then that compartment was treated to some sound proof/insulating blanket.

Flyin6 · « **Reply #564 on:** January 09, 2020, 08:42:53 PM »

Then I added the remaining insulation to the AC compartment and bolted that unit in for good

Flyin6 · « **Reply #565 on:** January 09, 2020, 08:44:35 PM »

I didn't feel like getting all covered with paint again, so I pressed ahead with mounting the battery. I made a tray from 3/4" ply which will soon be sprayed with bed liner or rubber...undecided

Flyin6 · « **Reply #566 on:** January 09, 2020, 08:46:47 PM »

I fashioned up a battery retainer and using those nut inserts drilled for 5/16" bolts to hold it all down.

I'm happy with how that turned out

Flyin6 · « **Reply #567 on:** January 09, 2020, 08:48:11 PM »

And that's how far along I got on this work day...

JR · « **Reply #568 on:** January 09, 2020, 09:06:17 PM »

Nice work Don. Since that is a standard battery, maybe add and absorbent pad under it. Adding that to my skid as sure it will get bounced around some, like your trailer.

Bigdave_185 · « **Reply #569 on:** January 10, 2020, 12:05:33 AM »

When I worked in the stereo shop business ( think long ago) we used the Dynamate product which has many others like it for sound deadening. Trunks, roofs, inside fenders. Everywhere that a box full of subwoofers would make rattle.

We used to use these to press In that type of liner.

NEICOTOOLS Heavy Duty Outside Radius Steel Seam Roller for RV Roofing Tape and Vinyl Plank Flooring (2" x 2") https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07Q4S8TS9/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_DtagEb4N4PXEJ

MARSHALLTOWN The Premier Line E54D 2-Inch Flat Commercial Grade Solid Rubber Seam Roller with DuraSoft Handle https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000I1EFKM/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_BxagEbZ7TG3CC

They helped make it lay out a whole bunch. Ripping the foil didn’t make any difference in sound transfer or rattling.

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TexasRedNeck · « **Reply #570 on:** January 10, 2020, 05:57:01 AM »

Quote from: Flyin6 on January 09, 2020, 08:37:36 PM

Then I took Dave's advice and removed and reinstalled the frig slides correctly.

He was right, and I was trying to get away with a fast one, but I want it strong and not some compromise.

First I had to fir out the compartment sides to fit the opening

lions have lain down with lambs!! Say what!!?? Dave was right???

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Flyin6 · « **Reply #571 on:** January 10, 2020, 01:17:39 PM »

Quote from: TexasRedNeck on January 10, 2020, 05:57:01 AM

Quote from: Flyin6 on January 09, 2020, 08:37:36 PM
Then I took Dave's advice and removed and reinstalled the frig slides correctly.

He was right, and I was trying to get away with a fast one, but I want it strong and not some compromise.

First I had to fir out the compartment sides to fit the opening
lions have lain down with lambs!! Say what!!?? Dave was right???

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Once! That's only one in a row...

Don't make it anymore than it is...;-))

Bigdave_185 · « **Reply #572 on:** January 10, 2020, 02:21:22 PM »

I have proof of other time, screenshots

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Flyin6 · « **Reply #573 on:** January 10, 2020, 06:25:51 PM »

I guess this build has become much more the collaborative effort.

I just got a heavy box of 60 mil EPDM Rubber matt, 10 X 15 I think.

And I ordered a gallon of the purpose made adhesive and for some strange reason, they sent me 4 gallons of the stuff.

So, the rubber covered roof would be a direct result of input I got from Tex, I believe.

Some things you folks will know far better than I because of personal experience. I am the only person who knows what I want and need, so that's my part.

At the end of this season, I want to own and operate one super cool homemade creation that is 100% useful, and actually gets used.

Flyin6 · « **Reply #574 on:** January 11, 2020, 08:44:11 PM »

Here is the 2000W/4000W inverter...Big sucker!

Flyin6 · « **Reply #575 on:** January 11, 2020, 08:45:44 PM »

While working around the electrical installation, I mounted a 30 amp shore power receptacle in the side of the AC cabinet

Flyin6 · « **Reply #576 on:** January 11, 2020, 08:47:04 PM »

The fitted the electrical compartment door.

I found some #8 panhead screws at "Nuttys" and used them in 3/4" and 1" length

Flyin6 · « **Reply #577 on:** January 11, 2020, 08:47:55 PM »

Then I mounted the remaining hatches/doors

Flyin6 · « **Reply #578 on:** January 11, 2020, 08:49:16 PM »

Next I got after the main power distribution/fuse panel. I chose a 55 amp unit made for the RV market

Flyin6 · « **Reply #579 on:** January 11, 2020, 08:51:14 PM »

I will mount it in the crew compartment sunk into the bulkhead between it and the electrical compartment. To facilitate that, I fashioned a mounting collar from 3/4" material to properly space it for the final position

Flyin6 · « **Reply #580 on:** January 11, 2020, 08:51:47 PM »

Here is the location, already drilled in and marked out for cutting

Flyin6 · « **Reply #581 on:** January 11, 2020, 08:53:22 PM »

As has become the technique, I used nut plates so that I will have a solid and permanent installation utilizing #10 machine screws

A dab of glue applied before "Setting" them insures they will stay put

Flyin6 · « **Reply #582 on:** January 11, 2020, 08:54:00 PM »

It's slowly coming together

TexasRedNeck · « **Reply #583 on:** January 11, 2020, 09:00:32 PM »

Don are you adding any vents to the roof for airflow in temperate weather?

https://www.etrailer.com/RV-Vents-and-Fans/Fantastic-Vent/FV801208.html?feed=npn&gclid=Cj0KCQiAgebwBRDnARIsAE3eZjSLKedeA2Hq8LhuBekY1YkHOe3GVNKMmENbjs1Na-O7B_3b3NVbpWIaAkWGEALw_wcB

https://youtu.be/PUYgEZxxVDY

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stlaser · « **Reply #584 on:** January 11, 2020, 09:08:52 PM »

Charles, he should have one of those from the tac topper demolition

TexasRedNeck · « **Reply #585 on:** January 11, 2020, 09:09:17 PM »

Ooh. Shots fired!

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JR · « **Reply #586 on:** January 12, 2020, 04:30:44 PM »

Who locked this thing

Didn't I see a 12v fan earlier?

Is that a pure or modified wave inverter?

Flyin6 · « **Reply #587 on:** January 12, 2020, 06:17:55 PM »

Quote from: TexasRedNeck on January 11, 2020, 09:00:32 PM

Don are you adding any vents to the roof for airflow in temperate weather?

https://www.etrailer.com/RV-Vents-and-Fans/Fantastic-Vent/FV801208.html?feed=npn&gclid=Cj0KCQiAgebwBRDnARIsAE3eZjSLKedeA2Hq8LhuBekY1YkHOe3GVNKMmENbjs1Na-O7B_3b3NVbpWIaAkWGEALw_wcB

https://youtu.be/PUYgEZxxVDY

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Yes, I posted pics of the roof fan unit way back when I was building it, did you miss it?

Fantastic RV fan...

Flyin6 · « **Reply #588 on:** January 12, 2020, 06:19:30 PM »

Quote from: stlaser on January 11, 2020, 09:08:52 PM

Charles, he should have one of those from the tac topper demolition

Actually the shawn is korrekt!

Flyin6 · « **Reply #589 on:** January 12, 2020, 06:21:10 PM »

Quote from: JR on January 12, 2020, 04:30:44 PM

Who locked this thing

Didn't I see a 12v fan earlier?

Is that a pure or modified wave inverter?

No klueee. Sine wave, clear, pure or methodist, who kares? Its a converter! Or something like that...

Cops...same as NCO's...

Actually, is there something I should have known before I purchased the thing, burned up the box, and tossed the receipt?

JR · « **Reply #590 on:** January 12, 2020, 07:06:45 PM »

Pure sign wave, better for electronics in the long run. Modified will work, but some elec don't like at all.

Hey, I remembered the fan. That's better than some NCO's.

Flyin6 · « **Reply #591 on:** January 13, 2020, 11:17:10 AM »

Quote from: JR on January 12, 2020, 07:06:45 PM

Pure sign wave, better for electronics in the long run. Modified will work, but some elec don't like at all.

Hey, I remembered the fan. That's better than some NCO's.

VERY true!

And I'll check to see what I bought...

Flyin6 · « **Reply #592 on:** January 13, 2020, 07:47:59 PM »

Electrical distribution center installed

Flyin6 · « **Reply #593 on:** January 13, 2020, 07:49:16 PM »

Perfect fit in the electrical compartment

Flyin6 · « **Reply #594 on:** January 13, 2020, 07:50:16 PM »

On top of that goes the large inverter

Flyin6 · « **Reply #595 on:** January 13, 2020, 07:51:35 PM »

A little detail work here. I drilled the holes into the battery hold down to help contain the coming birds nest of wires. My goal is to keep things neat and sorted

I then bolted in a 100 amp shunt from the hot side of the battery just in case

Flyin6 · « **Reply #596 on:** January 13, 2020, 07:53:24 PM »

And put in a ground through the bulkhead that will attach to the generator and the chassis as well as other components

Flyin6 · « **Reply #597 on:** January 13, 2020, 07:55:32 PM »

The goal today was to get a lot of things hung onto the various walls so that I could start to figure out how to run the wires

Here is the on demand water heater, a propane unit, it actually runs on two D-cell batteries. But its position then defines where the pump and water lines will run

Flyin6 · « **Reply #598 on:** January 13, 2020, 07:56:47 PM »

The water pump seemed best placed on the underside of the upper shelf/kids bed area

Flyin6 · « **Reply #599 on:** January 13, 2020, 07:58:26 PM »

I had previously coated the AC vent panels with paint and bed liner. I mounted those