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Re: SquareD Part 6 Starting to finish!!!
« Reply #950 on: June 16, 2015, 09:00:26 PM »
Then just before I could weld all that in, it started to rain, and the back end of the truck is outside (So I can work on my tan while welding) so I moved ahead

Here is the tow hitch being created. Starting with 2.5" square tubing, 3/16" thick, all you have to do is drill a hole and weld it in, really
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Re: SquareD Part 6 Starting to finish!!!
« Reply #951 on: June 16, 2015, 09:03:01 PM »
I'll be reinforcing the thing like the vault over at Ft Knox where Obama's birth certificate and college transcripts are being kept.

I punched a hole in a piece of thick 4" X 4" angle to start
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Re: SquareD Part 6 Starting to finish!!!
« Reply #952 on: June 16, 2015, 09:03:46 PM »
It's pretty thick, 3/8"
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Re: SquareD Part 6 Starting to finish!!!
« Reply #953 on: June 16, 2015, 09:04:24 PM »
Next I cut out the safety chain holes
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Re: SquareD Part 6 Starting to finish!!!
« Reply #954 on: June 16, 2015, 09:05:34 PM »
I checked the fit, then welded it up
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Re: SquareD Part 6 Starting to finish!!!
« Reply #955 on: June 16, 2015, 09:07:16 PM »
Then I wrapped the edges with some flat stock
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Re: SquareD Part 6 Starting to finish!!!
« Reply #956 on: June 16, 2015, 09:09:26 PM »
About then the rain had stopped some 15 minutes, so I went outside to work on my tan.

Oh and I welded on those earlier pieces I showed
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Re: SquareD Part 6 Starting to finish!!!
« Reply #957 on: June 16, 2015, 09:11:42 PM »
Then after measuring, remeasuring and checking a third time, the hitch assembly was welded to the existing bumper structure
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Re: SquareD Part 6 Starting to finish!!!
« Reply #958 on: June 16, 2015, 09:17:11 PM »
The hitch is not done by any means. It will still get attached to the fairhead plate and I'll bring in two braces from the frame after I add new tabs for the side wings when I get that far.

Next I added two pieces on the outboard upright to start to attach the top plate to. I am using some 1" X 3" high strength tubing that was all rejected by a company called "Big A$$ Fans. The steel company cut several hundred 2 foot sections of this tubing, but the BAF company rejected them because they had burrs or were 1/32" too short! Now those pieces are being sold as scrap, so a lot of my projects will now be using this tubing!
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Re: SquareD Part 6 Starting to finish!!!
« Reply #959 on: June 16, 2015, 09:18:13 PM »
Here are the next two pieces that are used to box in that new section
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Re: SquareD Part 6 Starting to finish!!!
« Reply #960 on: June 16, 2015, 09:19:32 PM »
I'm using 10 gage plate for the angled portion and the top, and .250" for the face that meets the Kias
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Re: SquareD Part 6 Starting to finish!!!
« Reply #961 on: June 16, 2015, 09:21:06 PM »
This stuff slices like butter, is easier to grind and welds up pretty without pulling down the power grid of Northern Kentucky

Here is the other side boxed in
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Re: SquareD Part 6 Starting to finish!!!
« Reply #962 on: June 16, 2015, 09:24:10 PM »
The bumper does stick out a bit, but that was necessary because of the H2O tank and the winch I wanted to use. The hitch gives up a bit of ground clearance, but not a lot. The lower edge is 28" above tera-firma, whereas the lifted Silverado's hitch is 22".

This will allow the trailer to ride nice and level, as if I made the bumper to fit it or something crazy like that!
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Re: SquareD Part 6 Starting to finish!!!
« Reply #963 on: June 16, 2015, 09:26:06 PM »
And right there, the bumper is all done!

I'll clean and undercoat it tomorrow!

Or I'll call this about 25% complete and drive on, one or the other

So that took me up to around 1930ish and time to throw the towel at the red dog.

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Re: SquareD Part 6 Starting to finish!!!
« Reply #964 on: June 16, 2015, 09:31:52 PM »
Looks stout enough. Welds look strong enough. Steel looks shiny enough. What else can a guy ask for!
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Re: SquareD Part 6 Starting to finish!!!
« Reply #965 on: June 16, 2015, 10:34:37 PM »
Looks stout enough. Welds look strong enough. Steel looks shiny enough. What else can a guy ask for!
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Re: SquareD Part 6 Starting to finish!!!
« Reply #966 on: June 17, 2015, 04:01:12 PM »
Yep, looks about right.    8)

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Re: SquareD Part 6 Starting to finish!!!
« Reply #967 on: June 17, 2015, 10:57:48 PM »
OK added a bit more today

First off I will be adding in the plates that have the permanent shackles welded in. The cardboard is the size so you can see how that all will fit
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Re: SquareD Part 6 Starting to finish!!!
« Reply #968 on: June 17, 2015, 10:59:09 PM »
Since these may see a lot of force, I am stepping all the way up to 3/8" thick plate
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Re: SquareD Part 6 Starting to finish!!!
« Reply #969 on: June 17, 2015, 11:00:16 PM »
After cutting out the plate, I welded the D-Rings to them on the table first before attaching anything to the bumper
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Re: SquareD Part 6 Starting to finish!!!
« Reply #970 on: June 17, 2015, 11:01:13 PM »
And here they are welded in
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Re: SquareD Part 6 Starting to finish!!!
« Reply #971 on: June 17, 2015, 11:02:48 PM »
Picking up some more of that cool tubing I scored, I cut two reinforcements connecting the main bumper mount to the backside of the D-Ring plate
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Re: SquareD Part 6 Starting to finish!!!
« Reply #972 on: June 17, 2015, 11:03:35 PM »
After welding that brace in place that plate felt as solid as the top of an anvil!
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Re: SquareD Part 6 Starting to finish!!!
« Reply #973 on: June 17, 2015, 11:05:08 PM »
Then I assembled several pieces together to start to form in the wings. I bench fitted and welded them first, then welded them to the D-ring plate
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Re: SquareD Part 6 Starting to finish!!!
« Reply #974 on: June 17, 2015, 11:07:26 PM »
This is only the flat face of the bumper. Above it will be a 2" 45 degree plate, then a top plate. I will add in a 1/4" horizontal rib and a bottom flange or skirt as well, so this is by no means the finished appearance
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Re: SquareD Part 6 Starting to finish!!!
« Reply #975 on: June 17, 2015, 11:08:39 PM »
And all of that took me an afternoon, all the time I had to bumperize today. That's the end of build day 272
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Re: SquareD Part 6 Starting to finish!!!
« Reply #976 on: June 18, 2015, 10:02:54 AM »
Looking good there chief!
3/8 plate to try and offset the front bumper weight... ::)

Carry on!
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Re: SquareD Part 6 Starting to finish!!!
« Reply #977 on: June 18, 2015, 11:14:01 AM »
Looking good there chief!
3/8 plate to try and offset the front bumper weight... ::)

Carry on!

I just used the 3/8" plate on that one small rectangle holdin' onto those D-rings. Heck if Big Red gets stuck, I'll be yankin' on it with Square D!
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Re: SquareD Part 6 Starting to finish!!!
« Reply #978 on: June 18, 2015, 03:05:17 PM »
Looks darn good.

You plannin' on making a hinged water carrier, like cmax, or is that STSI (super top secret info)?
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Re: SquareD Part 6 Starting to finish!!!
« Reply #979 on: June 18, 2015, 03:17:06 PM »
Looks darn good.

You plannin' on making a hinged water carrier, like cmax, or is that STSI (super top secret info)?
Ken, yep, very similar design to C-Max, just more robust
Tire carrier on the right rear, 3ea US Armee water can carrier on the left + a high lift jack, + a big ammo can if I can squeeze it in.
Tire swing arm will bolt to both the bumper extension and to that steel "Halo" I placed on top of the bed.

Remember how well I bolted all that in? Remember I made two holes with captured 3/8" nuts inside the halo? The right side holes are for the swing away tire carrier and the left halo is for a ladder which is going in with this build as well.
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Re: SquareD Part 6 Starting to finish!!!
« Reply #980 on: June 18, 2015, 08:58:29 PM »
Looking real good. Are those D rings 5/8s?

Welds look better too.

Speaking of ammo cans, they are going for around $12 on ebay right now.
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Re: SquareD Part 6 Starting to finish!!!
« Reply #981 on: June 18, 2015, 09:24:15 PM »
Looking real good. Are those D rings 5/8s?

Welds look better too.

Speaking of ammo cans, they are going for around $12 on ebay right now.
D-Rings are 1"

I was thinking of a biggin...like the 20MM or the 30MM ones. Weld up a foot for it to rest in then get captured by something. Keep things like a fuel siphon, recovery stuff, and stuff like that in there
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« Reply #982 on: June 18, 2015, 09:26:58 PM »
Looking real good. Are those D rings 5/8s?

Welds look better too.

Speaking of ammo cans, they are going for around $12 on ebay right now.
D-Rings are 1"

I was thinking of a biggin...like the 20MM or the 30MM ones. Weld up a foot for it to rest in then get captured by something. Keep things like a fuel siphon, recovery stuff, and stuff like that in there

Or to feed that mini-gun.......... ;)
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Re: SquareD Part 6 Starting to finish!!!
« Reply #983 on: June 21, 2015, 07:50:46 PM »
She is looking great! Your build thread is what introduced me to this site and boy am I glad for it!
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« Reply #984 on: June 21, 2015, 08:05:39 PM »
She is looking great! Your build thread is what introduced me to this site and boy am I glad for it!
Glad to hear it!
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Re: SquareD Part 6 Starting to finish!!!
« Reply #985 on: June 22, 2015, 10:54:04 AM »
Jumping ahead possibly....  Cut outs for led lights in rear bumper?

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« Reply #986 on: June 22, 2015, 11:40:15 AM »
Jumping ahead possibly....  Cut outs for led lights in rear bumper?
I think so

In those flat panels that just went in
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« Reply #987 on: June 22, 2015, 02:47:35 PM »
Roger that....  Proceed with caution...   :o

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« Reply #988 on: June 22, 2015, 08:32:29 PM »
 ???Does the tailgate open?

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« Reply #989 on: June 22, 2015, 10:05:27 PM »
???Does the tailgate open?

Yep, sure does
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« Reply #990 on: June 22, 2015, 10:06:28 PM »
is that duane???  is he alive or are we seeing things here???
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« Reply #991 on: June 22, 2015, 10:07:48 PM »
is that duane???  is he alive or are we seeing things here???
It would appear as though we just experienced a DS (Duane Sighting)!
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« Reply #992 on: June 22, 2015, 10:21:26 PM »
well since he lives closest to you, have you checked on him lately?  hows he doing?
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« Reply #993 on: June 23, 2015, 07:26:21 AM »
I'm thinking we should have a starting party when Don actually decides to crank this thing up...I should be eligible for my AARP discount by then....

Sorry Don, carry on sir.
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« Reply #994 on: June 23, 2015, 08:56:59 AM »
I'm thinking we should have a starting party when Don actually decides to crank this thing up...I should be eligible for my AARP discount by then....

Sorry Don, carry on sir.
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« Reply #995 on: June 23, 2015, 09:04:40 AM »
well since he lives closest to you, have you checked on him lately?  hows he doing?
Yea, I've checked on him.
It would be inappropriate of me to say his wife has beaten him again and he is in the middle of a pool install. A pool surrounded by oak and hickory trees, in the forest, with herds of Racoon, deer, chipmunks, snakes, and who knows what trapsing through the property!

I wouldn't want to paint a picture of my mighty warrior friend having given in to something as foolish as an unmaintainable pool in the middle of a forest just cause the woman beats him. I won't point out any of that because despite his obvious lack of fortitude and giving in, it would make him look, well, weaker I suppose. I give him a lot of latitude (Because of the Blackhawk thing) but I would have thought he could have saved all that money. Might as well have built the pool in the middle of a cow pasture, but, hey, I'm not talking about all this.

No, we won't discuss any of these poor choices, we'll just go on as if no loss of dignity or position as the leader of his household ever occurred!

Other than that, he's fine!
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Re: SquareD Part 6 Starting to finish!!!
« Reply #996 on: June 23, 2015, 09:22:05 AM »
It appears that Duane and I must have the same wife. :(
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« Reply #997 on: June 23, 2015, 09:28:34 AM »
Poor fella. I like just having friends with pools. It's easier on my schedule that way.

Successfully derailed thread, aint there a bumper build or something happening here.

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« Reply #998 on: June 23, 2015, 10:33:36 AM »
Poor fella. I like just having friends with pools. It's easier on my schedule that way.

Successfully derailed thread, aint there a bumper build or something happening here.

When he gets that thing done, I will have a friend with a pool! I figure I mess around in his pool in the summer, and he hunts all over my farm in the fall, seems like a fair trade!

I'll have to check if there is a bumper build happening...not sure right now!
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« Reply #999 on: June 23, 2015, 01:44:09 PM »

When he gets that thing done, I will have a friend with a pool! I figure I mess around in his pool in the summer, and he hunts all over my farm in the fall, seems like a fair trade!

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