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Re: Ol’ SARGE aka BIG RED thread
« Reply #600 on: June 24, 2016, 01:30:28 PM »
The guys who get to drive Sarge. It has its own following and thread.

Remember that no pictures means it didn't happen (here).

Me, I would love to pilot sarge around. Probably smile as much as you!
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Re: Ol’ SARGE aka BIG RED thread
« Reply #601 on: October 08, 2016, 08:49:51 AM »
OK, Sarge has a leaking track

I didn't know tracks leaked!

Just one pad/shoe but it's wet with what looks like 90 wt oil

What the heck!
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Re: Ol’ SARGE aka BIG RED thread
« Reply #602 on: October 08, 2016, 03:31:15 PM »
Rut-Row!
That's not good. Sounds like a small leak somewhere very local.
Hopefully nothing major.
I just don't want to wind up missing a digit or limb.  I can sometimes get in a hurry to get results.
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Re: Ol’ SARGE aka BIG RED thread
« Reply #603 on: October 08, 2016, 06:16:46 PM »
A loose lug nut? ;)
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« Reply #604 on: October 08, 2016, 06:44:31 PM »
A loose lug nut? ;)

He said the track not the driver....... ;D
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Re: Ol’ SARGE aka BIG RED thread
« Reply #605 on: October 09, 2016, 08:21:54 AM »
Here's one:
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Re: Ol’ SARGE aka BIG RED thread
« Reply #606 on: October 09, 2016, 12:22:11 PM »
You sure it didn't drip from somewhere else?
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Re: Ol’ SARGE aka BIG RED thread
« Reply #607 on: October 09, 2016, 02:16:21 PM »
Well, seems I have lifetime sealed and lubricated tracks

Some expensive upgrade that someone placed on it in the past.

So probably a seal in there somewhere. I believe it is in the center of the tracks where a small reservoir lubricates the pin which connects the adjacent track block
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Re: Ol’ SARGE aka BIG RED thread
« Reply #608 on: October 09, 2016, 03:05:01 PM »
I was thinking like an old locomotive where they got out to fill the oil reservoirs.

Drill it and put a grease fitting in there, done.
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« Reply #609 on: October 09, 2016, 07:37:58 PM »
sell it to me for $1 and go get yourself something that works...... ;-0
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« Reply #610 on: October 10, 2016, 09:49:24 PM »
sell it to me for $1 and go get yourself something that works...... ;-0
one dollar...generous!
The sound that motor makes is priceless!
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« Reply #611 on: October 10, 2016, 10:11:47 PM »
;-)
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Re: Ol’ SARGE aka BIG RED thread
« Reply #612 on: October 28, 2016, 07:03:29 PM »
It's still kickin butt and pushin' trees!

What a classic machine!
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Re: Ol’ SARGE aka BIG RED thread
« Reply #613 on: May 23, 2017, 10:14:52 AM »
That old Case still keeping up with the workload?

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« Reply #614 on: May 24, 2017, 09:27:59 PM »
That old Case still keeping up with the workload?
It definitely has Ash!

Its been somewhat dormant during the winter. and since spring the ground has been too soft to trust it in the dirt. It would slide all over creation I suspect.

Will have it out shortly mucking about
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Re: Ol’ SARGE aka BIG RED thread
« Reply #615 on: October 02, 2017, 10:21:06 PM »
Well, as most already know, Sarge is encountering a hydraulic problem.

We (Me and the good guys over at Southeastern Equipment, a CASE and Kobelco dealership) are putting a real plan together to fix Sarge.

I don't know how it is going to turn out or which direction it will take, however Richard, the most experienced mechanic there who did most of the work on Sarge is going to find the page in the repair manual concerning pressure testing the secondary control valve circuit.

Depending on what we find there, will determine the next step.

What I like about this approach is that it is logical and through direct instrument readings and process of elimination fairly soon the results will point to the culprit.

I doubt that any of this will be cheap, but owning heavy equipment is just never cheap. You can almost always count on very expensive repair bills that pop up regularly if you use the equipment.

I think it is still cheaper in the (Very) long run to buy the equipment, then repair it and maintain it over time as opposed to renting it for the job at hand.

On a farm, heavy equipment is just indispensable. It seems you are always using it. My Excavator is used to dig. But I can also use it to clear out trees. I can split firewood with it from the air conditioned and heated comfort of my cab and when I need a crane, well, its a darn good one.

SO stay tuned as I dig into the old Sergeant and fix what ails it.
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« Reply #616 on: October 02, 2017, 11:45:30 PM »
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Re: Ol’ SARGE aka BIG RED thread
« Reply #617 on: October 03, 2017, 02:23:12 PM »
OK, here's the start

I'll create a hydraulic gage assembly and plumb into the system where "The guys" told me too and go from there. Hopefully, that will occur tomorrow.
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« Reply #618 on: October 03, 2017, 07:34:22 PM »
OK, task one and two complete.

First, get the instructions to start the testing procedure

Larry, Jon, and Richard hooked me up on that front.

Next was find a hydraulic test gage. I just went over to Fluid and Air and talked to Kenny who wipped me up a test gage for $69 and sent me packin'

After the Ortho appointment tomorrow, I should be cleared for flight to head down farmside and hook this contraption up to my ailin' Sergeant.
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Re: Ol’ SARGE aka BIG RED thread
« Reply #619 on: October 03, 2017, 07:36:32 PM »
It has a quality 0-3000 psi gage, glycerin filled, mind you. He attached the proper ends to six feet of 5800 psi hose and clamped it all together.

Time to get it dirty!
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« Reply #620 on: October 03, 2017, 07:49:01 PM »
It has a quality 0-3000 psi gage, glycerin filled, mind you. He attached the proper ends to six feet of 5800 psi hose and clamped it all together.

Time to break something else!

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« Reply #621 on: October 03, 2017, 07:50:50 PM »
It has a quality 0-3000 psi gage, glycerin filled, mind you. He attached the proper ends to six feet of 5800 psi hose and clamped it all together.

Time to break something else!

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Re: Ol’ SARGE aka BIG RED thread
« Reply #622 on: October 03, 2017, 08:01:22 PM »
OK, task one and two complete.

First, get the instructions to start the testing procedure

Larry, Jon, and Richard hooked me up on that front.

Next was find a hydraulic test gage. I just went over to Fluid and Air and talked to Kenny who wipped me up a test gage for $69 and sent me packin'

After the Ortho appointment tomorrow, I should be cleared for flight to head down farmside and hook this contraption up to my ailin' Sergeant.

uh oh, this looks serious what is that a hydraulic blood pressure cuff? :popcorn: please don't say this is the start of another oil change.......
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« Reply #623 on: October 03, 2017, 08:03:57 PM »
It has a quality 0-3000 psi gage, glycerin filled, mind you. He attached the proper ends to six feet of 5800 psi hose and clamped it all together.

Time to break something else!

FIFY
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Easy, I must be getting soft...... I reworked a whole paragraph last night and even fired myself like twice to turn around and just delete it all.  :huh:

Expensive equipment failures bring the suck, you have my condolences!
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Re: Ol’ SARGE aka BIG RED thread
« Reply #624 on: October 03, 2017, 08:52:52 PM »
It has a quality 0-3000 psi gage, glycerin filled, mind you. He attached the proper ends to six feet of 5800 psi hose and clamped it all together.

Time to break something else!

FIFY
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Easy, I must be getting soft...... I reworked a whole paragraph last night and even fired myself like twice to turn around and just delete it all.  :huh:

Expensive equipment failures bring the suck, you have my condolences!
Well, its not like I can do anything about it

Until my rich uncle dies in the poor house, I'll have to keep old Sarge running...Although the local dealer took a John Deere 655 in trade recently...
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« Reply #625 on: October 03, 2017, 08:58:23 PM »
Well with any luck you just need to adjust the relief valve and be back on the go.
I just don't want to wind up missing a digit or limb.  I can sometimes get in a hurry to get results.
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« Reply #626 on: October 04, 2017, 11:07:41 AM »
Well with any luck you just need to adjust the relief valve and be back on the go.
That's what I am hoping for too

Ya know, lookin' over the manual. at the Robert Bosch injection pump section, I read about a power screw. Turning it clockwise, five degrees at a time adjusts the smoke (Power) Now I have never seen anything hurt from a little extra power...
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Re: Ol’ SARGE aka BIG RED thread
« Reply #627 on: October 04, 2017, 12:27:17 PM »
I read about a power screw. Turning it clockwise, five degrees at a time adjusts the smoke (Power) Now I have never seen anything hurt from a little extra power...

Didn't you turn the screw on Square D, and now....  :laugh:
So, Bobby...being the calculating trained warrior NCO that you are.  Take the appropriate action, Execute!
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« Reply #628 on: October 04, 2017, 12:31:22 PM »
I read about a power screw. Turning it clockwise, five degrees at a time adjusts the smoke (Power) Now I have never seen anything hurt from a little extra power...

Didn't you turn the screw on Square D, and now....  :laugh:

Good angle Bobby, I was thinking maybe a screw on that dirt bike but then thought he might use that as an excuse........ you know too much power :tongue:
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« Reply #629 on: October 04, 2017, 12:48:22 PM »
You two need to turn the loose screw in your head! :beercheers:
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« Reply #630 on: October 04, 2017, 12:55:10 PM »
Well with any luck you just need to adjust the relief valve and be back on the go.
That's what I am hoping for too

Ya know, lookin' over the manual. at the Robert Bosch injection pump section, I read about a power screw. Turning it clockwise, five degrees at a time adjusts the smoke (Power) Now I have never seen anything hurt from a little extra power...
Without a pyro I'd be very cautious of this.
I dabbled a couple times back in the day on an old 3406 Cat in a semi.
There comes a point where you will give too much, and if Sarge doesn't have a pyro you won't know.
I just don't want to wind up missing a digit or limb.  I can sometimes get in a hurry to get results.
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« Reply #631 on: October 04, 2017, 02:06:31 PM »
Well with any luck you just need to adjust the relief valve and be back on the go.
That's what I am hoping for too

Ya know, lookin' over the manual. at the Robert Bosch injection pump section, I read about a power screw. Turning it clockwise, five degrees at a time adjusts the smoke (Power) Now I have never seen anything hurt from a little extra power...
Without a pyro I'd be very cautious of this.
I dabbled a couple times back in the day on an old 3406 Cat in a semi.
There comes a point where you will give too much, and if Sarge doesn't have a pyro you won't know.
They give specific guidelines. They say to adjust the screw in five degree increments until you start to detect a slight brown hazing from the exhaust. Currently the exhaust from that beast is colorless when running full bore. So it definitely has some room to spare.
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« Reply #632 on: October 04, 2017, 04:17:45 PM »
HEY BIG D, PLEASE DONT TOUCH THE SCREW!!!!!!!!!    TALK TO LOCTITE AKA RICHARD FIRST....

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« Reply #633 on: October 04, 2017, 04:54:58 PM »
HEY BIG D, PLEASE DONT TOUCH THE SCREW!!!!!!!!!    TALK TO LOCTITE AKA RICHARD FIRST....

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« Reply #634 on: October 04, 2017, 05:14:19 PM »
HEY BIG D, PLEASE DONT TOUCH THE SCREW!!!!!!!!!    TALK TO LOCTITE AKA RICHARD FIRST....
Ah, man...You're killin my fun here!
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« Reply #635 on: October 04, 2017, 05:34:54 PM »
HEY BIG D, PLEASE DONT TOUCH THE SCREW!!!!!!!!!    TALK TO LOCTITE AKA RICHARD FIRST....
Ah, man...You're killin my fun here!

NOPE he's saving YOU money!  He is killing all of OUR fun though......thanks a lot Dooley (looking down, kicking the dirt and walks away  :angry:)
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« Reply #636 on: October 04, 2017, 08:49:31 PM »
HEY BIG D, PLEASE DONT TOUCH THE SCREW!!!!!!!!!    TALK TO LOCTITE AKA RICHARD FIRST....
Someone else who knows the dangers of that screw...
I just don't want to wind up missing a digit or limb.  I can sometimes get in a hurry to get results.
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« Reply #637 on: October 04, 2017, 10:22:13 PM »
HEY BIG D, PLEASE DONT TOUCH THE SCREW!!!!!!!!!    TALK TO LOCTITE AKA RICHARD FIRST....
Someone else who knows the dangers of Don screwing with stuff he just shouldn't

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« Reply #638 on: October 04, 2017, 10:29:09 PM »
Well with any luck you just need to adjust the relief valve and be back on the go.
That's what I am hoping for too

Ya know, lookin' over the manual. at the Robert Bosch injection pump section, I read about a power screw. Turning it clockwise, five degrees at a time adjusts the smoke (Power) Now I have never seen anything hurt from a little extra power...
Without a pyro I'd be very cautious of this.
I dabbled a couple times back in the day on an old 3406 Cat in a semi.
There comes a point where you will give too much, and if Sarge doesn't have a pyro you won't know.
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Re: Ol’ SARGE aka BIG RED thread
« Reply #639 on: October 07, 2017, 09:29:27 PM »
OK, got the test done and, Houston, we have a problem!

I pulled the SCV panel and hooked up the gage that kenny built
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« Reply #640 on: October 07, 2017, 09:30:59 PM »
I broke out the emergency set of tools, which worked quite well, thank you very much!
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« Reply #641 on: October 07, 2017, 09:35:19 PM »
And here is the pressure with the engine near full RPM and the control stick held in full roll-back position

That pressure should be 2100 +50. I make it a tad under 700, say 690 psi.

So next step is to talk with the guys at Southeastern and figure out what the next step is.

I am hoping I or someone can adjust the pressure of the SCV, but with a number this low, a SCV may have blown an O-Ring internally, or I have a defective hydraulic pump.
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« Reply #642 on: October 07, 2017, 09:37:10 PM »
For now I bolted the side cover loosely up with the line still connected for use in further testing
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« Reply #643 on: October 07, 2017, 09:38:01 PM »
Darned old thing still looks good!
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« Reply #644 on: October 17, 2017, 11:03:56 AM »
Any update on what's ailing Sarge?
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« Reply #645 on: October 17, 2017, 06:03:05 PM »
Any update on what's ailing Sarge?
I have the next performance test to perform, but I haven't been able to sneak away to get any time on the machine. Weather, football, funerals, Dr. appointments, you name it!
This next test will help determine if the primary control valve is working or has malfunctioned. If its bad, I'll pull it and put new O-rings throughout. If not and its good, then it gets ugly. The test alone to determine the viability of the main hydraulic pump will easily approach the cost of a rebuilt unit. So...if it may be the pump, I'm just going to hang a rebuilt unit on there even if it doesn't fix the problem. At least I'll have that unit baselined. Everything that I test or pull off will be overhauled.

I found a nice John Deere 655C, which is a Liebherr unit and is a hoss. My machine is a 27,000 lb loader with a 1.75 yard bucket. The Liebherr is a 35,000 unit with a 2.25 yard bucket. It is hydrostatic and fast, not old school like I like em'
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« Reply #646 on: October 18, 2017, 08:55:48 AM »
Any update on what's ailing Sarge?

Usually officers getting into NCO business...
So, Bobby...being the calculating trained warrior NCO that you are.  Take the appropriate action, Execute!
your standard grunt level CQB is just putting rounds and rounds on scary stuff till it stops scaring you!

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Re: Ol’ SARGE aka BIG RED thread
« Reply #647 on: October 18, 2017, 09:53:57 PM »
Any update on what's ailing Sarge?

Usually officers getting into NCO business...

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« Reply #648 on: October 19, 2017, 07:48:38 AM »
You know it.  That is why every officer in charge of something at any level has a senior NCO assigned.
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Re: Ol’ SARGE aka BIG RED thread
« Reply #649 on: October 19, 2017, 07:55:29 AM »
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