Author Topic: Steel wheels or Aluminum? (Read 6561 times)

Flyin6 · « **on:** December 20, 2018, 03:08:59 PM »

Not so far away from purchasing tires and wheels for the 2500 Suburban.

I am totally unimpressed by all these super costly gaudy aluminum wheels sending young people into debt.

I think I like the low cost and utility of a basic steel wheel. THought I'd get a 17X9 steelie, paint it Farm-all gray mount up the tires with beads inside and call it GTG.

Steelies can be replaced inexpensively or straightened if banged up runnin' over jap cars.

Thoughts?

EL TATE · « **Reply #1 on:** December 20, 2018, 04:06:26 PM »

Steel steel steel steel steel......

TexasRedNeck · « **Reply #2 on:** December 20, 2018, 04:10:24 PM »

And what’s wrong with what’s on it? What are solving for?

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Flyin6 · « **Reply #3 on:** December 20, 2018, 04:15:33 PM »

Quote from: TexasRedNeck on December 20, 2018, 04:10:24 PM

And what’s wrong with what’s on it? What are solving for?

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Only have 4, they are no longer made

Bigdave_185 · « **Reply #4 on:** December 20, 2018, 04:18:32 PM »

I would copy the same wheel on c max

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Bigdave_185 · « **Reply #5 on:** December 20, 2018, 04:18:49 PM »

18 inch is more available I think ? Verify?

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EL TATE · « **Reply #6 on:** December 20, 2018, 04:58:38 PM »

16" steel 8x6.5 fits 100x more than 18". ford dodge Toyota are all large center hub bore and will work on GM in a pinch with little vibration issues. Steel can be easily bent back into shape. I've taken one that looked like a V back to semi round with a propane torch and 5lb sledge and drove home off the mountain. with aluminum, I would have been tossing the broken pieces and waiting on the rescue chopper.

TexasRedNeck · « **Reply #7 on:** December 20, 2018, 05:56:45 PM »

Don, You mentioned wanting to take Frau to broadway...that means appearance counts too, so to me plain steel would not fit the bill.

PYOs came on that stock and they are pretty strong and they are available in quantity on ebay etc. My vote would be looking at some stock pyos. My 2001 had pyos and I drove it pretty hard and never bent a wheel, especially in a 16 with a bunch of meat on the sidewall. Its not like a lo profile 24

stlaser · « **Reply #8 on:** December 20, 2018, 06:36:08 PM »

Humvee wheels for the win!

TexasRedNeck · « **Reply #9 on:** December 20, 2018, 06:39:05 PM »

https://houston.craigslist.org/wto/d/hummer-h2-wheels/6777253246.html

stlaser · « **Reply #10 on:** December 20, 2018, 06:42:10 PM »

Quote from: TexasRedNeck on December 20, 2018, 06:39:05 PM

https://houston.craigslist.org/wto/d/hummer-h2-wheels/6777253246.html

Nobody said nuttin about no hippy bling h2 wheels....

TexasRedNeck · « **Reply #11 on:** December 20, 2018, 06:49:17 PM »

not a bad deal, basically new for 200. Besides, that Burb is likely to be gathering dust and pushed in and out of a garage for the next few years....

stlaser · « **Reply #12 on:** December 20, 2018, 07:13:10 PM »

Getting fired right b4 Christmas is never a good thing....

TexasRedNeck · « **Reply #13 on:** December 20, 2018, 07:15:58 PM »

Meh, I'll just retire.

Flyin6 · « **Reply #14 on:** December 20, 2018, 09:19:56 PM »

He means fired from here!

And I'm listening

Flyin6 · « **Reply #15 on:** December 20, 2018, 09:20:48 PM »

Quote from: TexasRedNeck on December 20, 2018, 05:56:45 PM

Don, You mentioned wanting to take Frau to broadway...that means appearance counts too, so to me plain steel would not fit the bill.

PYOs came on that stock and they are pretty strong and they are available in quantity on ebay etc. My vote would be looking at some stock pyos. My 2001 had pyos and I drove it pretty hard and never bent a wheel, especially in a 16 with a bunch of meat on the sidewall. Its not like a lo profile 24

I do take the Frau to Broadway

We take the GJ

Flyin6 · « **Reply #16 on:** December 20, 2018, 09:27:25 PM »

Was thinking of these

If that is a deco steel ring it would be a good curb feeler

If its fake, then the wheel w/o the bolts all over the rim

Paint em some obnoxious color to hippies (Gray) and call it done

Looking at both 16" and 17"

The 16" wheel has less BS pushing the tire outboard a bit more. Hard on wheel bearings but make for a stable off camber ride

stlaser · « **Reply #17 on:** December 20, 2018, 09:32:51 PM »

Quote from: Flyin6 on December 20, 2018, 09:20:48 PM

Quote from: TexasRedNeck on December 20, 2018, 05:56:45 PM
Don, You mentioned wanting to take Frau to broadway...that means appearance counts too, so to me plain steel would not fit the bill.

PYOs came on that stock and they are pretty strong and they are available in quantity on ebay etc. My vote would be looking at some stock pyos. My 2001 had pyos and I drove it pretty hard and never bent a wheel, especially in a 16 with a bunch of meat on the sidewall. Its not like a lo profile 24
I do take the Frau to Broadway

We take the GJ

Is there a good steakhouse there?

stlaser · « **Reply #18 on:** December 20, 2018, 09:34:09 PM »

Quote from: Flyin6 on December 20, 2018, 09:27:25 PM

Was thinking of these

If that is a deco steel ring it would be a good curb feeler

If its fake, then the wheel w/o the bolts all over the rim

Paint em some obnoxious color to hippies (Gray) and call it done

Looking at both 16" and 17"

The 16" wheel has less BS pushing the tire outboard a bit more. Hard on wheel bearings but make for a stable off camber ride

Skip the wanna be beadlock ring.....

TexasRedNeck · « **Reply #19 on:** December 20, 2018, 09:44:16 PM »

Texas is known for BBQ beef. Kansas City is known for steak. What is KY known for? casserole??

stlaser · « **Reply #20 on:** December 20, 2018, 09:50:05 PM »

Uh Whiskey duh!!

Bigdave_185 · « **Reply #21 on:** December 20, 2018, 10:12:48 PM »

Quote from: stlaser on December 20, 2018, 09:34:09 PM

Quote from: Flyin6 on December 20, 2018, 09:27:25 PM
Was thinking of these

If that is a deco steel ring it would be a good curb feeler

If its fake, then the wheel w/o the bolts all over the rim

Paint em some obnoxious color to hippies (Gray) and call it done

Looking at both 16" and 17"

The 16" wheel has less BS pushing the tire outboard a bit more. Hard on wheel bearings but make for a stable off camber ride

Skip the wanna be beadlock ring.....

Second vote to skip the stupid fake beadlocks, and get some steel wheels if that’s what blows your skirt up

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Nate · « **Reply #22 on:** December 20, 2018, 10:40:36 PM »

KY is known for bourbon not whisky....TN is known for whisky

stlaser · « **Reply #23 on:** December 20, 2018, 10:58:13 PM »

Quote from: Nate on December 20, 2018, 10:40:36 PM

KY is known for bourbon not whisky....TN is known for whisky

That’s correct but I think they are both produced more in KY versus anywhere else in the US. That may be incorrect but I think the large producers are located in KY. The small batch producers are in TN if I recall correctly.

TexasRedNeck · « **Reply #24 on:** December 21, 2018, 06:48:54 AM »

In order to be called bourbon they have to be made in KY. Everything else is whiskey.

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Farmer Jon · « **Reply #25 on:** December 21, 2018, 07:22:01 AM »

I have always been a fan of the white spoke wheels.

stlaser · « **Reply #26 on:** December 21, 2018, 07:50:29 AM »

Quote from: TexasRedNeck on December 21, 2018, 06:48:54 AM

In order to be called bourbon they have to be made in KY. Everything else is whiskey.

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Incorrect, bourbon is American made (51% corn) and type of storage (new charred oak barrels) along with that it’s typically sweeter than whiskey. It is true it used to be made in bourbon county ky ( hence the name) but there are no distillers there any longer. American made and it can be a bourbon.

Bigdave_185 · « **Reply #27 on:** December 21, 2018, 08:51:39 AM »

To my knowledge I have never tried bourbon. Suggestion that isn’t gonna break the bank?

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Flyin6 · « **Reply #28 on:** December 21, 2018, 09:15:22 AM »

Quote from: stlaser on December 20, 2018, 09:32:51 PM

Quote from: Flyin6 on December 20, 2018, 09:20:48 PM
Quote from: TexasRedNeck on December 20, 2018, 05:56:45 PM
Don, You mentioned wanting to take Frau to broadway...that means appearance counts too, so to me plain steel would not fit the bill.

PYOs came on that stock and they are pretty strong and they are available in quantity on ebay etc. My vote would be looking at some stock pyos. My 2001 had pyos and I drove it pretty hard and never bent a wheel, especially in a 16 with a bunch of meat on the sidewall. Its not like a lo profile 24
I do take the Frau to Broadway

We take the GJ

Is there a good steakhouse there?

Two actually, five star I think, the Syndicate and ah, I can't remember the other. $200 meal but it's always epic!

TexasRedNeck · « **Reply #29 on:** December 21, 2018, 09:18:43 AM »

I stand (sit) corrected. Have fallen prey to an old wives tale apparently.

A little reading
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.courier-journal.com/amp/1410542002

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KensAuto · « **Reply #30 on:** December 21, 2018, 10:22:16 AM »

Don't feel bad Charles, I believed the same thing.

TexasRedNeck · « **Reply #31 on:** December 21, 2018, 10:24:16 AM »

I don’t feel bad about being wrong anymore. Happens a lot. Benefits of being older.

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EL TATE · « **Reply #32 on:** December 21, 2018, 10:30:47 AM »

Dot dot, dot dot dot, do do do do, dot dot, dot dot dot. (white Christmas theme) https://www.brownhotel.com/dining/hot-brown

Flyin6 · « **Reply #33 on:** December 21, 2018, 10:36:46 AM »

Quote from: TexasRedNeck on December 21, 2018, 10:24:16 AM

I don’t feel bad about being wrong anymore. Happens a lot. Benefits of being older.

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Just keeps gettin better that way...

Flyin6 · « **Reply #34 on:** December 21, 2018, 10:38:10 AM »

How did a discussion about steel wheels turn into bourbon and a hot brown???

EL TATE · « **Reply #35 on:** December 21, 2018, 11:14:38 AM »

Quote from: TexasRedNeck on December 20, 2018, 09:44:16 PM

Texas is known for BBQ beef. Kansas City is known for steak. What is KY known for? casserole??

Quote from: Flyin6 on December 21, 2018, 10:38:10 AM

How did a discussion about steel wheels turn into bourbon and a hot brown???

Sorry, that's where my head went.

no fake beadlocks. Hold mud, out of balance easy, hard to clean. https://www.ntwonline.com/16x8-8x6-5-4-25bs-type-751-black-d-window-steel-wheels-18361.html obviously the pic doesn't match the spec, but you get the idea.

stlaser · « **Reply #36 on:** December 21, 2018, 01:34:59 PM »

Quote from: Flyin6 on December 21, 2018, 10:38:10 AM

How did a discussion about steel wheels turn into bourbon and a hot brown???

Not sure but the bourbon is definitely more interesting then steel wheels....

wilsonphil · « **Reply #37 on:** December 21, 2018, 02:04:33 PM »

here is an option, I have have used them before and they delivered a good product 100% usa made!

http://www.stocktonwheel.com/heavy_duty.html

Bigdave_185 · « **Reply #38 on:** December 21, 2018, 04:46:27 PM »

Quote from: stlaser on December 21, 2018, 01:34:59 PM

Quote from: Flyin6 on December 21, 2018, 10:38:10 AM
How did a discussion about steel wheels turn into bourbon and a hot brown???

Not sure but the bourbon is definitely more interesting then steel wheels....

No one answered my question

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stlaser · « **Reply #39 on:** December 21, 2018, 05:21:26 PM »

Quote from: wilsonphil on December 21, 2018, 02:04:33 PM

here is an option, I have have used them before and they delivered a good product 100% usa made!

http://www.stocktonwheel.com/heavy_duty.html

Technically I don’t believe that is still part of the USA......

stlaser · « **Reply #40 on:** December 21, 2018, 05:25:15 PM »

Quote from: Bigdave_185 on December 21, 2018, 04:46:27 PM

Quote from: stlaser on December 21, 2018, 01:34:59 PM
Quote from: Flyin6 on December 21, 2018, 10:38:10 AM
How did a discussion about steel wheels turn into bourbon and a hot brown???

Not sure but the bourbon is definitely more interesting then steel wheels....
No one answered my question

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Not sure about the break the bank part, bourbon is like a good whiskey no bottle worth it’s weight is less than $50. Personally if you want to try some I’d suggest finding a restaurant that has a deep list (we have several here local to me) and you can try a few. The one place I’m thinking of has 2 oz pours and prices range from $5 maybe up to $30 a pour. This way you can try several and not have to invest in a full bottle. Or stop by my place sometime is always an option too!

EL TATE · « **Reply #41 on:** December 21, 2018, 05:30:45 PM »

Quote from: Bigdave_185 on December 21, 2018, 04:46:27 PM

Quote from: stlaser on December 21, 2018, 01:34:59 PM
Quote from: Flyin6 on December 21, 2018, 10:38:10 AM
How did a discussion about steel wheels turn into bourbon and a hot brown???

Not sure but the bourbon is definitely more interesting then steel wheels....
No one answered my question

Never had Jim Beam? not great bourbon by any stretch, but it's technically bourbon.

I make it a point to get a different variety of whisky or bourbon each time I go out with the wife or the guys. So far i'm really happy with buffalo trace KY bourbon and Knobb Creek whisky.

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stlaser · « **Reply #42 on:** December 21, 2018, 06:54:17 PM »

For the record Dave I’m not a snob. I’ll drink scotch, whiskey or bourbon makes no difference to me!

Flyin6 · « **Reply #43 on:** December 21, 2018, 07:00:35 PM »

Quote from: stlaser on December 21, 2018, 05:21:26 PM

Quote from: wilsonphil on December 21, 2018, 02:04:33 PM
here is an option, I have have used them before and they delivered a good product 100% usa made!

http://www.stocktonwheel.com/heavy_duty.html

Technically I don’t believe that is still part of the USA......

I like that, good call Shawn

You get a "Get out of fired card!"

Use it tomorrow or the next day when you screw up something here, insult ken, call me out, or DOT again and then get fired again

Good job!

Flyin6 · « **Reply #44 on:** December 21, 2018, 07:14:01 PM »

This thread is a disaster

I'm officially declaring it ATDA (Another thread disaster area)

Bigdave_185 · « **Reply #45 on:** December 21, 2018, 09:56:51 PM »

If you can’t change subjects and come back. Well lol. I’ll stop by the store

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Flyin6 · « **Reply #46 on:** December 21, 2018, 10:02:35 PM »

Quote from: Bigdave_185 on December 21, 2018, 09:56:51 PM

If you can’t change subjects and come back. Well lol. I’ll stop by the store

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Sadly, hard to resurrect from the grave...

Shawn came at me with a good suggestion. Then I went over and checked those wheel guys out. 4-6 weeks lead time to build the wheels. I'll have something on the burb by then.

stlaser · « **Reply #47 on:** December 22, 2018, 12:09:37 AM »

Quote from: Flyin6 on December 21, 2018, 10:02:35 PM

Quote from: Bigdave_185 on December 21, 2018, 09:56:51 PM
If you can’t change subjects and come back. Well lol. I’ll stop by the store

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Sadly, hard to resurrect from the grave...

Shawn came at me with a good suggestion. Then I went over and checked those wheel guys out. 4-6 weeks lead time to build the wheels. I'll have something on the burb by then.

What wheels are 4-6 weeks lead time?

Bigdave_185 · « **Reply #48 on:** December 22, 2018, 12:40:00 AM »

I think the last time I looked at steel wheels, procomp sold a wheel that was simple black, no pin stripe. It was really affordable.

In fact
https://www.4wheelparts.com/p/pro-comp-97-series-rock-crawler-15x8-wheel-with-5-on-5-bolt-pattern-gloss-black-97-5873/_/R-FPWF-97-5873

Pretty hard to beat it

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Flyin6 · « **Reply #49 on:** December 22, 2018, 10:53:56 AM »

Quote from: stlaser on December 22, 2018, 12:09:37 AM

Quote from: Flyin6 on December 21, 2018, 10:02:35 PM
Quote from: Bigdave_185 on December 21, 2018, 09:56:51 PM
If you can’t change subjects and come back. Well lol. I’ll stop by the store

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Sadly, hard to resurrect from the grave...

Shawn came at me with a good suggestion. Then I went over and checked those wheel guys out. 4-6 weeks lead time to build the wheels. I'll have something on the burb by then.

What wheels are 4-6 weeks lead time?

Stockton wheels
Read through their site
All wheels are custom built, not stocked and pulled
Existing orders//they say lead time 4-6 weeks