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Up until a couple years ago Indiana only allowed shotgun for deer (& some pistols chambered in rifle cartridges) needless to say I had a couple 12ga’s they were accurate at 150-175 yards. Good enough to bring down a large bodied deer. One was a bolt action mossberg with a 2 round box mag. The other was my beretta semi auto in 12ga both with rifled barrels lobbing Winchester 3” sabots. Just saying it’s pretty common in whitetail areas where you are limited in what you can shoot.
Anybody here have a Molot vepr 12? The Russian version of a saiga? I've seen em obtainable for 500, sadly never bought any. Know a guy who has a few, only ran one a bit but says it'll run. Particularly for the price. His brother has the saiga. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Quote from: wyorunner on December 12, 2017, 12:00:36 AMAnybody here have a Molot vepr 12? The Russian version of a saiga? I've seen em obtainable for 500, sadly never bought any. Know a guy who has a few, only ran one a bit but says it'll run. Particularly for the price. His brother has the saiga. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalkeveryone I know runs the Saiga, but only the ones that actually work, and only after figuring out the gas port thing.Note: With a Saiga, you need to figure out which ammo it will digest, then stay right there. Mine eats green remington 2 3/4 00 buckshot and the 2 3/4" 1 oz slug with no issues, so I just leave it right there. 500 rounds of each tucked away and a couple thousand Italian 00 buck which I haven't tried but feeds well into my 930 Mossy
I heard Don day he’s going to get one and do a write up. (Turnabout is fair play for volunteering us to mod)I have a saiga and M4 but let’s just say I have “a few” 870s and related parts. My favorite is a Wilson Combat 870 that just runs and runs and runs. The more I think about the mag system the more I think I don’t like not being able to insert a slug from the side saddle and double rack to transition to a slug Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
I just don't want to wind up missing a digit or limb. I can sometimes get in a hurry to get results.
So, Bobby...being the calculating trained warrior NCO that you are. Take the appropriate action, Execute!
your standard grunt level CQB is just putting rounds and rounds on scary stuff till it stops scaring you!
Ya know I was just at my shop...stopped in the gun store quick to ask about said 870 that started this discussion. Somehow ended up leaving with another .270 Mauser. I blame you guys... another $200 I will never see again.
I like the CS shells, but think they are illegal for all but LE about everywhere.
Quote from: JR on December 13, 2017, 12:42:09 AMI like the CS shells, but think they are illegal for all but LE about everywhere.Well don’t go getting technical on me.....JRShawn, in Texas we may be legally able to use those rounds as first date deterrent for my daughter’s suitors....Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
After the near break-in attempt a couple years ago where the wife waved a shotgun in his face and he didn't immediately turn and run I pulled out my stock of rifled slugs that I used to use for deer season. Just about as accurate as you can be with a quick shot on any open sighted rifle but a much larger hole. Model 1300 Winchester I have had since my 12th birthday. If came as a "Turkey special" with an 18" barrel.
I’ve witnessed the carnage a 12ga sabot can do in a large bodied buck at close range. Most don’t run at all if you get shot placement right.
Correct, I was thinking in terms of weight of the round & tissue damage. If he has taken deer at 250-300 yards that’s quite a bit farther than I have heard before. If true pretty impressive as well. My last buck was 175 yards with rifled barrel & sabots, good scope. I was personally confident in the range but not sure how much farther I would have gone.
Jr... my favorite action is the model 98 Mauser. My fav hunting caliber is .270...it was cheap...I am weak LoLI will start a thread if ya all want to watch the process?
Quote from: stlaser on December 13, 2017, 09:12:11 AMCorrect, I was thinking in terms of weight of the round & tissue damage. If he has taken deer at 250-300 yards that’s quite a bit farther than I have heard before. If true pretty impressive as well. My last buck was 175 yards with rifled barrel & sabots, good scope. I was personally confident in the range but not sure how much farther I would have gone.In my experience the deer fist has to be able to stand back up before it can run away. Those sabots are heavy and have a ton of energy in them. In my limited experience with them it generally knocks them off their feet.This guy is one of the few that I would probably believe such a claim from. He is a nearly 40 year old bachelor with but one hobby, and that is hunting. He comes from a family of very serious hunters. He is also a fellow engineer, so quit methodical. I'm sure he has tested out to that range and ranges in between and charted bullet drop.
Of the things I have witnessed, there was usually some narcotic involved. Hash, Heroin, THC, and even some guys speedin' along. You shoot someone like that and they will just keep motoring. THe narcotic masks the pain, the drug takes the shock of being hit off one's mind, and in many cases dead people just kept staying in the fight.
Some are teaching head shots in self defense as the first point of aim but I’m still a proponent of two center mass and a rapid follow up to the ocular cavity. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk