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Bob's Garage Build, with chainsaws thrown in thread
« on: September 14, 2020, 03:58:50 PM »
Finally found a site prep contractor. He started clearing the brush today.
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« Reply #1 on: September 14, 2020, 04:10:21 PM »
They have serious brush rakes on their equipment

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« Reply #2 on: September 14, 2020, 04:26:14 PM »
Next the large excavator To remove the large stumps once the tree guy gets done. Some of the trees are over three ft in diameter. They will also remove a couple large cedar trees next to the house.

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« Reply #3 on: September 14, 2020, 04:31:27 PM »
Garage plans are being drawn up and engineered and turned into the county for permits.  With any luck I might have a garage by the end of the year.
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« Reply #4 on: September 14, 2020, 07:55:06 PM »
Are you getting to keep the wood they are sawing up?
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« Reply #5 on: September 14, 2020, 09:37:22 PM »
Wood is going against clearing costs. Market for export is down right now so hopefully price will be better when it gets to market

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« Reply #6 on: September 14, 2020, 09:40:34 PM »
Stump removal will be hard as the trees are really large. Well over 100 years old

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Re: Bob's Garage Build, with chainsaws thrown in thread
« Reply #7 on: September 14, 2020, 10:25:14 PM »
I own one of those grapples
Brush grapple is pretty light duty
Stump grapple is one better
I have a rock grapple and lifting a two ton stone with it is no big deal
I'd say if you stuck a log in there a bit off center it would crush it into two pieces pdq.
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« Reply #8 on: September 15, 2020, 06:52:06 AM »
Nice progress Bob. Sometimes it’s relaxing to watch professionals work...I would not want to tackle trees that big on my own


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« Reply #9 on: September 16, 2020, 02:04:46 PM »
Doing it yourself is satisfying, but is way more work than you think, and where I am now.

If can afford it, pay for it. If you have time and the equip, go for it.
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« Reply #10 on: September 16, 2020, 03:09:52 PM »
Trying to do it myself would be scary. I don’t have a saw with a large enough bar nor the knowledge to keep from damaging something or myself.

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« Reply #11 on: September 16, 2020, 03:12:57 PM »
Nothing wrong with paying for it.
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« Reply #12 on: September 16, 2020, 07:22:40 PM »
Photo of the log deck waiting on a truck

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« Reply #13 on: September 17, 2020, 11:44:42 AM »
Whoa! That's a bunch of trees!

How much all that worth?
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« Reply #14 on: September 17, 2020, 08:29:58 PM »
Two loads so far, one fir one mixed fir/cedar

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« Reply #15 on: September 17, 2020, 09:42:08 PM »
Wow. Those are some logs. Three across an eight foot deck.
Around here three big ones would net four feet tops. Lol.
I just don't want to wind up missing a digit or limb.  I can sometimes get in a hurry to get results.
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« Reply #16 on: September 17, 2020, 11:18:30 PM »
And with wood prices now. Just came from HD, OSB was $27. What kills me is you know they bought in bulk under prior contract and didn't pay that.
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« Reply #17 on: September 17, 2020, 11:58:57 PM »
Since the guy dropping the trees knows what he is doing, we talked about two large cedars next to the house. Turns out he also climbs.

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« Reply #18 on: September 18, 2020, 12:03:10 AM »
JR, price of products are high but the raw logs are. In the dump right now. Export market is way low, better prices selling local.

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« Reply #19 on: September 18, 2020, 07:22:19 AM »
I love watching those guys work. Never catch me up there. Anything over about 20 ft and I'm done.
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« Reply #20 on: September 18, 2020, 11:36:00 AM »
Climbing looks like a riot to me, Iv bucked some twenty feet off the ground leaned over this last week and it was such a rush of adrenaline!! Sign me up


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« Reply #21 on: September 18, 2020, 12:47:53 PM »
Dave, I only have a couple problems with climbing. I don’t do heights and would have a really hard time trying to climb with all the extra weight attached to me. And of course usually they are climbing because the tree is close to a house or another target. Just trying to keep the limbs from hitting something would do me in.

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« Reply #22 on: September 18, 2020, 03:06:44 PM »
Need a climbing saw for that
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« Reply #23 on: September 18, 2020, 07:18:04 PM »
Yeah, I bought a MS241C pro Stihl saw but it was not technically a climbing saw. They have a top handle 12 inch bar pro saw that is like $600.  That may be my next saw purchase


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« Reply #24 on: September 18, 2020, 11:23:00 PM »
Yeah, I bought a MS241C pro Stihl saw but it was not technically a climbing saw. They have a top handle 12 inch bar pro saw that is like $600.  That may be my next saw purchase


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« Reply #25 on: September 18, 2020, 11:36:15 PM »
Yeah, I bought a MS241C pro Stihl saw but it was not technically a climbing saw. They have a top handle 12 inch bar pro saw that is like $600.  That may be my next saw purchase


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« Reply #26 on: September 19, 2020, 06:29:56 AM »
I just got a husqvarna572xp. That saw is a real cutter.
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« Reply #27 on: September 19, 2020, 08:28:57 AM »
Those 72cm3 saws get r dun. I have the 372xp. No auto tune like the 572

That dog eats

Dave the crazy thing is now that I have that 241 I rarely ever use the 372

With that 16 inch bar and 3hp I can work it all day without getting worn out and even if the tree is 20-22inches I just go at it from the other side too.

My ego made me buy the big saw but my arms and back sent me to get the little one real quickly afterward.

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« Reply #28 on: September 19, 2020, 08:41:27 AM »
I can honesty say I want the big saw for zero reason on then the “ I want it” part.    I kind of want to build a mod saw and the 400 series seem to be the better platform.  Zero use at all for me lol. Cool factor

 This last week I ripped a little chraftsman 12 for at least half the tree.  A good tuned saw and sharp blade is all it takes.   The saw was free and needed a carb clean.  If had it for a few years

I have found a 24” bar gets my stihl into about any tree I have needed. It does fine as long as I run a skip tooth on the wet wood


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« Reply #29 on: September 19, 2020, 10:20:27 AM »
Bob, gonna rename this the "Chainsaw thread."

Fits right in with the strong DOT tradition that is so well rooted in our little honest forum here

But while we're destroying Bob's attempt to share his joy of building on his new property

I use the Stihl MS311 which is both a beast on trees, and a workout because of it's weight. I think it's powered by a small block chevy or something...
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« Reply #30 on: September 19, 2020, 10:39:57 AM »
Don look at that small saw charlez is talking about. Small bar and tons of power


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« Reply #31 on: September 19, 2020, 11:50:18 AM »
I Picked this one up about a month ago.
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« Reply #32 on: September 19, 2020, 12:42:45 PM »
That motor to bar ratio is perfect.  That motor will pull through anything!


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« Reply #33 on: September 19, 2020, 01:38:58 PM »
Is that the easy start? I got one and love it.

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« Reply #34 on: September 19, 2020, 01:58:29 PM »
Bob, gonna rename this the "Chainsaw thread."

Fits right in with the strong DOT tradition that is so well rooted in our little honest forum here

But while we're destroying Bob's attempt to share his joy of building on his new property

I use the Stihl MS311 which is both a beast on trees, and a workout because of it's weight. I think it's powered by a small block chevy or something...


No problem, could be a couple months before the garage is permitted anyway.
Not to butt in on the chainsaw stuff, but anyone have any heavy duty two post lift Ideas.
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« Reply #35 on: September 19, 2020, 02:06:06 PM »
Thats the regular start.
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« Reply #36 on: September 19, 2020, 05:31:32 PM »
Bob,  Hippy Shawn has one in his shop and I bet he has an opinion.


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« Reply #37 on: September 19, 2020, 05:47:06 PM »
Which smart arse renamed this lol


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« Reply #38 on: September 19, 2020, 08:52:42 PM »
Yea, who did that?
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« Reply #39 on: September 19, 2020, 09:14:47 PM »
Which smart arse renamed this lol


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« Reply #40 on: September 19, 2020, 09:48:26 PM »
Nate, that’s the modern version of what I use and the slightly I’m not sure where smaller than the 026 the boss cut up or drove over.
Light. Good power. Use all day.
I just don't want to wind up missing a digit or limb.  I can sometimes get in a hurry to get results.
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« Reply #41 on: September 19, 2020, 10:39:16 PM »
Its a pretty good little machine.  It really boggs down when you are cutting a tree that is close to the length of the bar.  It is very fuel efficient.  I got this tree completely down, de limbed and cut rounds from the main trunk.  I still have to cut up all the limbs and get everything all raked up and cleaned.  Then i will have to have the stump grinder guy come and do his thing.

It was a shame to lose this 25-30' pine tree that was 20 years old.  Something got it and it went really quick.
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« Reply #42 on: September 19, 2020, 10:42:38 PM »
Nate what is the blade type your using?
 

They have multiple styles and curfs (?)   I prefer a skip tooth, it allows the motor to spool up easier under load. 

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« Reply #43 on: September 19, 2020, 10:44:07 PM »
Its the standard chain it gets sold with.  I will have to do a little researching and see is i can get something that cuts a little better and easier.
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« Reply #44 on: September 19, 2020, 11:11:37 PM »
Yea, who did that?


I was just following your command. The thread was toast anyway and chainsaws is a good topic.

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« Reply #45 on: September 20, 2020, 08:43:01 AM »
It all has to do with the depth gauge and how you sharpen/adjust.  Part of sharpening the blade is to keep the depth gauge in the right height relative to the teeth.

You can be more aggressive on the depth with softwoods. 

I touch my chain up before every use.  Even a small saw will cut well with a sharp chain.

And that tree looks like it got hit by pine bark beetles.  The blue in the tree is pretty telling.

Get one of these.  You’ll thank me later

https://www.stihlusa.com/products/chain-saws/filing-tools/2in1file/

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Which smart arse renamed this lol


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« Reply #47 on: September 20, 2020, 10:23:31 AM »
Its a pretty good little machine.  It really boggs down when you are cutting a tree that is close to the length of the bar.  It is very fuel efficient.  I got this tree completely down, de limbed and cut rounds from the main trunk.  I still have to cut up all the limbs and get everything all raked up and cleaned.  Then i will have to have the stump grinder guy come and do his thing.

It was a shame to lose this 25-30' pine tree that was 20 years old.  Something got it and it went really quick.
Nate get a wood chuck for your drill, and drill a bunch of holes to make a hollow section in the middle. Pour a cup or two of diesel or kerosene in the hole and allow to marinade. Then around dark, set a match to it and enjoy the nice blaze. In a day or so, take the tractor and grade over or pull out any root sections the fire did not eat up.

Pine is full of turpentine and will burn itself up. I remember going through level "C: SERE at Camp Mackall. During the phase we were out in the boonies, I'd look for a downed pine or stump part and carve some chunks from the stump. Excellent fire starter, I thought. Samm could undoubtly illuminate the subject better than I...
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« Reply #48 on: September 20, 2020, 10:24:29 AM »
Yea, who did that?


I was just following your command. The thread was toast anyway and chainsaws is a good topic.
Sorry, didn't mean to steer you off your objective.

But you're right, Chainsaws are a good subject!
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« Reply #49 on: September 21, 2020, 08:47:59 AM »
This is by far the most used chainsaw I have:
https://www.echo-usa.com/Products/Chain-Saws/CS-2511T

 

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