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Re: My Cabin Build/Reno
« Reply #200 on: January 05, 2016, 02:13:15 AM »
And what is wrong with sweatpants,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,?
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« Reply #201 on: January 05, 2016, 07:42:39 AM »
Well I can think of one good reason, chain saws and loose clothing never mix, with saws, tractors (pto) all can be very dangerous


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« Reply #202 on: January 05, 2016, 07:44:36 AM »
Well I can think of one good reason, chain saws and loose clothing never mix, with saws, tractors (pto) all can be very dangerous


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« Reply #203 on: January 05, 2016, 10:14:38 AM »
Haha...This ^^^^^^^^^^^
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« Reply #204 on: January 05, 2016, 07:44:47 PM »
Well I can think of one good reason, chain saws and loose clothing never mix, with saws, tractors (pto) all can be very dangerous


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Hes already checked that box  No way he hits the same leg twice!

ROFLMAO!
I just don't want to wind up missing a digit or limb.  I can sometimes get in a hurry to get results.
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« Reply #205 on: January 05, 2016, 08:53:44 PM »
Laugh it up fellas. Laugh it up.  I have seen a skill saw catch some jeans, I have watched a neighbor slip a hand into the 12 inch chop saw, I have used the steal toe of my boot to stop my stihl 24 inch saw.   I don't mess with that shiz no more. Safe isn't safe enough these days


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« Reply #206 on: January 06, 2016, 08:50:00 AM »
We're laughing at Sam, and Sam's laughing at Sam,  because he might very well be your neighbor. ....he's. ....well. ...how shall I put this. ....uh accident prone....he's already been awarded the "chainsaw thru body parts "badge! !
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« Reply #207 on: October 12, 2016, 12:01:35 PM »
So, it's been a while, but as eluded to on one of big D's posts I'm installing a 1 kW solar setup at the cabin.
Now just thinking out loud I may do a separate thread on he total re-do of my set up.

Thoughts?

In the mean time here is the beginning.
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« Reply #208 on: October 12, 2016, 12:12:15 PM »
I began by getting the neighbors tractor to aid in trenching.

Awoke to this...



Well frost is upon us and if I wanted the cables buried, there was no time to waste.
So I pressed on and dug the trench and laid in the cables.
In the future is running water, so I put in a 14/3 to run the pump. It gets me that much closer to shore, and with a trench in it made sense to get that far.
The solar panel cable is either #2 or 4 awg. It is overkill for what I'm running but it was originally intended for electrifying my shop at the farm I just sold, so I owned it, and have repurposed it now.
Now with this size I didn't even consider the voltage drop calculations. My array is located 130'+/- from the cabin, and if I needed cable would have done this calculation.

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« Reply #209 on: October 12, 2016, 12:21:29 PM »
Needless to say it has been a mucky mess.
This resulted in a lack of pics on my part.

So here is the trench lookin back to the casa.



The stand for the panels is mostly complete, but is sure bigger than I expected.



The end size will be 1.7 meters by 4 meters, which threw me for a loop too, as I'm not very metric with dimensions. This is approximately 13 feet wide and 5 high of panel.

Here are the two cables coming out of the trench at the base. I need to get them into a junction box once I get back out there.



These were taken on day two of the install, it was a good thing I pushed on day one, as we had another 8" of snow fall overnight, and would have made backfilling even more of a mess.
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« Reply #210 on: October 12, 2016, 01:31:19 PM »
Cool, where did you buy the system from & any details you can give us on it?
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« Reply #211 on: October 12, 2016, 01:49:40 PM »
I picked it up from a solar wholesaler in Winnipeg.
Details off the top of my head are:
Panels - 4 X 265 watt
Charge controller - 50 amp MPPT

Now I need to switch over to 24 volts on my battery bank as well.
4 X Trojan T-105 6 volt batteries.

Soon to be on order just waiting on prices:
Samlex PST-3000-24 - 3000 watt pure sine wave 24 volt input inverter.
And possibly Iota DLS-27-15, or DLS-27-25 - 24vdc load carrying battery charger.
I need a 24 volt charger, just not set on the one as of today.

This 24 volt thing really turned my world upside down.
Everything in the cabin is on the 12 volt system.
I may keep some up to all of it in tact, and tie it off of 12 volts of battery.
I'm not entirely sure how this will play out.
It complicates the wiring to a large degree keeping what would then be three systems that cannot even tied together separate, so in the end I may abandon the 12 volt stuff entirely. Having said that, some key light fixtures are dual ac and dc lights, so to keep that function would be nice.
Time will tell which road I venture down, but I will do a thread on the 'complete' package.
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« Reply #212 on: October 12, 2016, 03:08:51 PM »
Please do, I need a lesson in solar..... ;)
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« Reply #213 on: October 12, 2016, 10:31:22 PM »
I'm learning and would like to see some real world experience


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« Reply #214 on: October 12, 2016, 11:10:09 PM »
and have you looked at a step down converters instead of changing everything?
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« Reply #215 on: October 12, 2016, 11:46:30 PM »
Sounds like a good start. With you being up there where the sun does not really get up all that high. have you considered a tracking system?

Pure sine wave inverters are nice, but not needed for most things (delicate electronics)

Don't go cheap on the batteries as you will only run them down to around 50% to keep them alive for a long time and they like to freeze.

Are the panels mono or poly?
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« Reply #216 on: October 13, 2016, 09:24:19 AM »
Sam, either here or a new thread

Which has me thinking out loud here

We are about prep and survival using the brain our gracious Lord has given us

You are doing "Ice Camp" while others are doing their off grid spirited stuff (Where's Norm when you need him?)

We may start up an off grid section to centralize good info like this

You and I are doing the same thing with independent sites which can self sustain. I know others are benefiting from this information, and it's fascinating to be sure!
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« Reply #217 on: October 13, 2016, 09:38:45 AM »
My second solar system (DIY) has a stand alone 1500watt outlet for when the grid is down. Won't save the world but will run the fridge and charge a few batteries.

I still think for long term the forklift battery is what to look for. Sure about $1000 but a 20+ year life and all the power you ever need.
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« Reply #218 on: October 13, 2016, 09:45:11 AM »
My second solar system (DIY) has a stand alone 1500watt outlet for when the grid is down. Won't save the world but will run the fridge and charge a few batteries.

I still think for long term the forklift battery is what to look for. Sure about $1000 but a 20+ year life and all the power you ever need.

Careful of used forklift batteries or ones that have been refurbished. I dealt with these lifts in our steel shops for years. Unless it is a new or known to you piece of equipment stay away from it. Also many of them the voltage can be 36 or 48 volt (at least larger ones we used).
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« Reply #219 on: October 13, 2016, 10:07:56 AM »
My second solar system (DIY) has a stand alone 1500watt outlet for when the grid is down. Won't save the world but will run the fridge and charge a few batteries.

I still think for long term the forklift battery is what to look for. Sure about $1000 but a 20+ year life and all the power you ever need.
better than a bank of 6 volt golf cart batteries?
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« Reply #220 on: October 13, 2016, 10:09:02 AM »
Apologies Sam for junkin' up your thread!
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« Reply #221 on: October 13, 2016, 10:19:32 AM »
48 volt is the way to go from what I read. I found the guys on a couple forums to be jerks and stopped asking questions.

GC batteries are great and you can change out bad ones easy, but you need about 50 to match a lift battery.

For something totally off grid I would look at lift batteries, for a weekend here and there GC would be fine. However getting a lift battery to some places my present a challenge since you cant just cart em in.
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« Reply #222 on: October 13, 2016, 10:25:20 AM »
I may just have a source of reconditioned forklift batteries.

A buddy from the Air Force uses military technology to literally shake off all internal scaling on old lift batteries. He gets the old bats for free, and like I said, he is my buddy
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« Reply #223 on: October 13, 2016, 12:22:08 PM »
Junk away. I don't think it would be fair otherwise. Rolls eyes.

Right now I'm using a 60 watt to keep charge up as well as a 400 watt turbine.
So battery charge state is always good.

Lift battery would be nice, but not for my use at this time.
The ease of swapping a dead cell is more important than tanking a lift batt.
I'll do a separate thread on the 'system' as it will hold it all in one spot and may get most of the way in before its too junked up.
I just don't want to wind up missing a digit or limb.  I can sometimes get in a hurry to get results.
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« Reply #224 on: October 13, 2016, 01:02:57 PM »
I may just have a source of reconditioned forklift batteries.

A buddy from the Air Force uses military technology to literally shake off all internal scaling on old lift batteries. He gets the old bats for free, and like I said, he is my buddy

Good buddy to have, we used those descale reconditioned units. Two things come to mind, they didn't hold the charge as long & were only good for about a year before they were shot again. Granted we were running these a shift then charge a shift then run a shift so they were run hard.
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« Reply #225 on: October 13, 2016, 10:27:20 PM »
Kids today don't know how easy they have it. When I was young, I had to walk 9 feet through shag carpet to change the TV channel.

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« Reply #226 on: November 01, 2016, 07:06:40 PM »
Got the new inverter in today. Along with connection kit and remote control.



This is a serious piece of hardware, nearing 45-50 lbs I'd say.

And the connection kit. Yes I likely could have found pars cheaper, but the one stop shop for properly rated cable, that cool fuse (200 amps by the way) in that little package was just worth it.



I'll use the excess cable to reconnect my batteries for 24 volts, the remote is wired, but has all kinds of info to display.
Once it's up and running I hope to figure it all out.

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« Reply #227 on: November 01, 2016, 07:56:40 PM »
...And it came with a can of cool!
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« Reply #228 on: November 02, 2016, 03:55:31 PM »
Sam, either here or a new thread

Which has me thinking out loud here

We may start up an off grid section to centralize good info like this

You and I are doing the same thing with independent sites which can self sustain. I know others are benefiting from this information, and it's fascinating to be sure!
I'm thinking of getting the solar thread started.
Are we going to open up an off grid section?
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« Reply #229 on: November 02, 2016, 04:23:55 PM »
I think a thread would work good. Possibly its own heading with all the building and preping many of do.
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« Reply #230 on: November 14, 2016, 08:16:47 PM »
So, I think I have the last piece of my power puzzle.
Picked up a 25A 24 volt charger today.
It's still in the box, so I don't have any other details today.
It's supposed to be a smart charger, and based on the price I sure hope so.

With the recent warm up we've had, the ice we had forming has went away for the most part. So with the pause in winter I'm out to get a pinched nerve in my neck straightened out that I tweaked under the dash the other night. God willing, I'll get a couple days to go find a white tail before I need to go home. I'm on the massage/chiropractor treatment, and after day one things are much better.
On the white tail, I'm head hunting his year, mama says 'we really don't need any meat' so will be a different time for me. Have my camera with me and might take some video of before the shot for the first time.
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« Reply #231 on: November 14, 2016, 09:54:25 PM »
Puts a whole different light on it when you don't feel the need to pull the trigger on the first one you see....Tag soup isn't that bad...

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« Reply #232 on: November 15, 2016, 12:41:50 AM »
Could always use a digital scope for recording. Then you get to see it all!!
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« Reply #233 on: June 02, 2021, 08:08:25 PM »
Bring out your dead.

Now I want to watch that. Shoot.

Found the ole cabin thread. Will revive it and do the sunroom build here.
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« Reply #234 on: June 02, 2021, 08:54:06 PM »
“Isnt there something you can do?”  Thwack!

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« Reply #235 on: June 03, 2021, 09:49:25 AM »
Sunroom build in the Artic!
Who'd have thought of that!
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« Reply #236 on: June 03, 2021, 11:57:24 AM »
A Canadian,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, :wink:
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« Reply #237 on: June 03, 2021, 03:01:46 PM »
Actually, solar heat gain and solar mass storage is pretty smart and common in colder areas.  At least when the sun actually shines.... 

Sam, you adding about 8 tons of concrete or water mass to absorb the solar gain?


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« Reply #238 on: June 03, 2021, 04:26:51 PM »
Well. Funny.
There will be a 200 gallon water tank and a 250/300 Gallon fuel tank.

So in essence sort of.

The solar gain is wicked some days.
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« Reply #239 on: June 06, 2021, 08:39:20 PM »
So some progress made over the weekend.

Last week got it all gutted and ready to demo.
Needed it for the weekend with mama and the hounds.


This weekend mama and I removed all of the soil from the greenhouse.
It rained. And rained. And rained.
But I must move on as I have 7 more days to get back closed in.

My too long 2 x 6 prior to going in.

Pushed in and married up to the existing rafters.

Fascia board put up. I’ve since installed it to its final place.
Tomorrow is demo day.
We’ll see how that goes.

It’s not supposed to rain. So maybe the mud pit will dry up some.


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« Reply #240 on: June 07, 2021, 07:01:44 AM »
Sam,  help me understand what the finished design is going to look like?  I’m a little lost with the new roof hanging out there


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« Reply #241 on: June 07, 2021, 08:08:14 AM »
So today it all comes down but the roof.
The roof is in good shape so it’s being saved.

New floor and walls to come with bigger footprint.
Currently about 9 x 18.
New will be 12 x 18 and fill in under the new roof.

Basically adding on but doing a demo instead of continuing the disaster.
The guy that built the place didn’t spend a dime on lumber by the looks of things
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« Reply #242 on: June 07, 2021, 09:45:27 PM »
Been a busy day.
Started by popping the roof off of the walls and then making a brace to hold it all up.

There is a little bit of redneckery here, but after about five hours no movement in the sinking direction.


Bit by bit, the puzzle came apart.



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« Reply #243 on: June 07, 2021, 09:51:04 PM »
I was killing time making sure the support was good and dug out the three new footings and back filled with 3/4 down.

Then nothing had moved so it was time.

To my surprise I was able to pop the floor off of the joists without any real headache.
Then it was a demo of the floor and a section of the east deck.


And here’s where we’re at at COB today.
Still got light for another four or five hours but nothing left in the tank. Started at zero six thirty so I’ve punched enough of a day.
Aside from the fact this desk jockey is out of gas.


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« Reply #244 on: June 07, 2021, 11:49:31 PM »
Desk jockey huh.

Yeah right
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« Reply #245 on: June 08, 2021, 12:53:14 AM »
Work looks great. Seems like a lot though for just 3'.
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Re: My Cabin Build/Reno
« Reply #246 on: June 08, 2021, 05:46:27 AM »
I was killing time making sure the support was good and dug out the three new footings and back filled with 3/4 down.

Then nothing had moved so it was time.

To my surprise I was able to pop the floor off of the joists without any real headache.
Then it was a demo of the floor and a section of the east deck.


And here’s where we’re at at COB today.
Still got light for another four or five hours but nothing left in the tank. Started at zero six thirty so I’ve punched enough of a day.
Aside from the fact this desk jockey is out of gas.


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good progress Sam.  I noticed the roof slope is fairly shallow, is that not a problem with ice and snow?


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« Reply #247 on: June 08, 2021, 08:44:57 AM »
Desk jockey huh.

Yeah right
Well I’ve done some things before sitting at a desk...

Charles, for whatever reason it doesn’t hold a lot of snow.
Hopefully that doesn’t change.

JR, in 2013 when I did the big Reno, mama asked after it was done can it be bigger. I flat out said no.
Fast forward to this year, we’re looking at it as a part time retirement home, so yeah a lot of work, but will be beneficial later. It also will allow me to get a water tank inside just trying to figure out the hole I need to leave for now. Thought I had one local but did not.
I just don't want to wind up missing a digit or limb.  I can sometimes get in a hurry to get results.
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« Reply #248 on: June 08, 2021, 09:18:39 AM »
Desk jockey huh.

Yeah right
Yea...Was thinkin the same thing...

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« Reply #249 on: June 08, 2021, 10:03:14 PM »
My hands.
They are girlysoft...
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Yeah I’ve done some stuff chief.
And I’m not just an ugly face either. Lol.
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I just don't want to wind up missing a digit or limb.  I can sometimes get in a hurry to get results.
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