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Well, just to fire everyone up this morning the response that the son received from his 1st Sgt and Commander: "We may not agree with this on a personal level but in the current culture this is the same as POW MIA, Black History or the many other events we celebrate each year." The son plans on sending it to the IG but doesn't think it will get much traction. I suggested 2 options 1) Do away with all these events/ weeks/ months. 2) Do away with all these events/ weeks/ months. unless they have a direct impact historical to the military. Think the Date the Air Force became a service of it's own and POW/MIA. Most of these events people are given time off work not charged leave and are I'm sure costing the military big bucks each year in lost productivity. I'm positive that there are very few supervisor that would say no if I wanted to go to a gay pride event because they would get reported on because of it. Who's idea was it to turn the military into some kind of social experiment? I'm sure happy that I retired when I did from active dutySteve
Quote from: oklawall on June 07, 2019, 07:56:02 AMWell, just to fire everyone up this morning the response that the son received from his 1st Sgt and Commander: "We may not agree with this on a personal level but in the current culture this is the same as POW MIA, Black History or the many other events we celebrate each year." The son plans on sending it to the IG but doesn't think it will get much traction. I suggested 2 options 1) Do away with all these events/ weeks/ months. 2) Do away with all these events/ weeks/ months. unless they have a direct impact historical to the military. Think the Date the Air Force became a service of it's own and POW/MIA. Most of these events people are given time off work not charged leave and are I'm sure costing the military big bucks each year in lost productivity. I'm positive that there are very few supervisor that would say no if I wanted to go to a gay pride event because they would get reported on because of it. Who's idea was it to turn the military into some kind of social experiment? I'm sure happy that I retired when I did from active dutySteveAs an IG, I can tell you he won't get any traction by making an IG complaint unless the unit is forcing him to attend the "observance".
Quote from: cj7ox on June 07, 2019, 08:14:24 AMQuote from: oklawall on June 07, 2019, 07:56:02 AMWell, just to fire everyone up this morning the response that the son received from his 1st Sgt and Commander: "We may not agree with this on a personal level but in the current culture this is the same as POW MIA, Black History or the many other events we celebrate each year." The son plans on sending it to the IG but doesn't think it will get much traction. I suggested 2 options 1) Do away with all these events/ weeks/ months. 2) Do away with all these events/ weeks/ months. unless they have a direct impact historical to the military. Think the Date the Air Force became a service of it's own and POW/MIA. Most of these events people are given time off work not charged leave and are I'm sure costing the military big bucks each year in lost productivity. I'm positive that there are very few supervisor that would say no if I wanted to go to a gay pride event because they would get reported on because of it. Who's idea was it to turn the military into some kind of social experiment? I'm sure happy that I retired when I did from active dutySteveAs an IG, I can tell you he won't get any traction by making an IG complaint unless the unit is forcing him to attend the "observance".sean, at what point does/will this violate the DOD policy of not using your position of being in the military for political gain, advancing your position or cause, etc?
Quote from: Nate on June 07, 2019, 11:56:42 AMQuote from: cj7ox on June 07, 2019, 08:14:24 AMQuote from: oklawall on June 07, 2019, 07:56:02 AMWell, just to fire everyone up this morning the response that the son received from his 1st Sgt and Commander: "We may not agree with this on a personal level but in the current culture this is the same as POW MIA, Black History or the many other events we celebrate each year." The son plans on sending it to the IG but doesn't think it will get much traction. I suggested 2 options 1) Do away with all these events/ weeks/ months. 2) Do away with all these events/ weeks/ months. unless they have a direct impact historical to the military. Think the Date the Air Force became a service of it's own and POW/MIA. Most of these events people are given time off work not charged leave and are I'm sure costing the military big bucks each year in lost productivity. I'm positive that there are very few supervisor that would say no if I wanted to go to a gay pride event because they would get reported on because of it. Who's idea was it to turn the military into some kind of social experiment? I'm sure happy that I retired when I did from active dutySteveAs an IG, I can tell you he won't get any traction by making an IG complaint unless the unit is forcing him to attend the "observance".sean, at what point does/will this violate the DOD policy of not using your position of being in the military for political gain, advancing your position or cause, etc?What I mean is it depends on the context of the quoted statement. EO observances are not mandatory. I’ll not comment on the the politics of the observances conducted. There are servicemen and women from all types, cultures, and backgrounds. I serve them all equally, without preconception or bias.
As an IG, I can tell you he won't get any traction by making an IG complaint unless the unit is forcing him to attend the "observance".
And what will make it worse is that the tools at CNN MSNBC and others will try to pin it to “Donald Trumps racist hatred and immigration policies”Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Heard a lot about the isolation aspect today. I also think certain people can be isolated and lead to do certain things when enough will behind that.With that in mind and being set on a path someone could be coerced in to doing something like this thinking is was right.
Quote from: JR on August 05, 2019, 06:08:16 PMHeard a lot about the isolation aspect today. I also think certain people can be isolated and lead to do certain things when enough will behind that.With that in mind and being set on a path someone could be coerced in to doing something like this thinking is was right.Exactly!That and some street pharma is how those hajiis are convinced (For the most part) to blow themselves up
I was just put into a team lead status here, and (I would call it a promotion but it's just more responsibility at the moment), one of my responsibilities is trying to reduce drag on the sales staff. get rid of issues customer service and tech and marketing can handle so they can focus on sales. in that regard I had to stop and listen into a conversation one of my seasoned pro's was having as he does not raise his voice ever and he was bordering on shouting; the customer had bought a locker off of Amazon's "scratch & dent" sale which is our product, sold by 3rd parties on amazon, sometimes returned product, used etc. they have a FIRM no return policy in exchange for saving in this case, $300. he had a problem with the internals on it, we spent several days trying to tech it out and warranty it for him but he could not produce an invoice (because he didn't buy it from us) and after swearing and berating my sales rep for 15 min for supporting amazons and randy's policy as he should he then tried to blackmail with the threat of blasting us on social media and negative product reviews, (on new items that are completely unrelated) just to deliberately injure and devalue us. I got on the phone and immediately explained to him that as a Christian, I would not tolerate his language and if he swore one more time he would be disconnected. He got quiet. I asked him if he had bought a used car from his neighbor, and it had problems, would you talk to your neighbor you bought the car from or go storming through Chevrolet's office demanding free repairs? after some back and forth I offered to make him a deal and send him parts that would fix his 75% off clearance/used locker at no cost if he promised never to call back again and figure out the installation on his own. haven't heard from him in a couple days now so fingers crossed.This guy had to be at least 45-50 years old... I would expect this from a millennial but ??? Why should I have to be held hostage to an entitled POS that feels we owe him something? what self respecting man would complain about something he essentially got for free and had free trouble-shooting and tech help and customer assistance when he wasn't really ever a customer? Sorry to rant, just had me really fired up because for the most part our hands are tied with what we can say to these mouth breathers, and they have all the ammo when social media is populated with millions of these idiots, they all believe what's in front of them on the computer screen, regardless of the facts they are told. I just can't fathom this behavior...
I think the widespread use of anti psychotic drugs is also a contributing factor.
Now I hear they want to do away with posse comitatus here in Ca. Please don't ask for help, your on your own.