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2002 Suburban 2500 Build Thread, Part 1
« on: November 16, 2018, 03:27:56 PM »
Well, now he went and did it!

Yep, I just purchased a Suburban!

I have been off looking at all sorts of vehicles, a XJ for the oldest pre-ranger, something for me, and a newer jeep for the Mrs.

I have always scanned the classifieds for a great Suburban and this morning I ran across one. It is somewhat of a time capsule in that it looks almost new. Only the undercarriage gives a clue to its real age, but even that is in really great condition. The selling dealer who sells classic vehicles does a comprehensive inspection to everything he intakes. He didn't find a single gripe on this pristine example.

So, it's a 2002 Suburban 2500, 8 lug axle, heavy duty burb with the LQ4 6.0 liter and a 4l80-E transmission and has 4.10 gears.
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500
« Reply #1 on: November 16, 2018, 03:30:25 PM »
Suburbans have to be my favorite vehicles of all time. We have owned them in the past and without one I have felt "Without" since that time. Sure the D-Max truck fills the void, but I just like all the room in that burb.

As you can see, it is in great condition!
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500
« Reply #2 on: November 16, 2018, 03:31:07 PM »
Even on top!
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500
« Reply #3 on: November 16, 2018, 03:32:47 PM »
There is no LTZ in this year, so the LT was as nice as you could get. After decoding the build tag, I discovered premium acrutments literally everywhere.
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500
« Reply #4 on: November 16, 2018, 03:32:57 PM »
Congrats. I’ll just leave this here for you

https://www.summitracing.com/parts/mps-011959983bl/make/gmc


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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500
« Reply #5 on: November 16, 2018, 03:33:37 PM »
Just look at the underhood scene:
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« Reply #6 on: November 16, 2018, 03:34:15 PM »
Congrats. I’ll just leave this here for you

https://www.summitracing.com/parts/mps-011959983bl/make/gmc


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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500
« Reply #7 on: November 16, 2018, 03:37:46 PM »
Is that an AWACS pod on top?


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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500
« Reply #8 on: November 16, 2018, 03:38:51 PM »
The interior looks equally as good
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500
« Reply #9 on: November 16, 2018, 03:39:57 PM »
I'll be starting with 96,000 miles

These 6.0 LS motors last a very long time
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« Reply #10 on: November 16, 2018, 03:40:49 PM »
Dash:
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« Reply #11 on: November 16, 2018, 03:42:06 PM »
some more shots:
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500
« Reply #12 on: November 16, 2018, 03:43:14 PM »
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500
« Reply #13 on: November 16, 2018, 03:44:03 PM »
Undercarriage:
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500
« Reply #14 on: November 16, 2018, 03:45:39 PM »
I purchased it from Rob at 4-Wheel Classics in Michigan

https://www.4-wheelclassics.com/vehicles
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« Reply #15 on: November 16, 2018, 03:54:38 PM »
The plan for this thing is to make it a fun driver/adventure vehicle that will see a lot of farm related off road ventures. It will tow trailers and carry my wife to broadway on occasion.

First, after receiving it, (It must be shipped from MI to KY) I'll go all over it and see if it needs anything and probably (Just) change the oils. Assuming there is little to do here, I'll just drive it for a time to see what it needs.

I can see a quick upgrade to HID headlights followed by a new head unit with GPS and smart phone blue tooth.

Of course the engine will get more power, or maybe, possibly see a duramax fall into the fenders...possibly.

More than likely, I'd just retain the services of this venerable 6.0

I can see a 6" lift along with 35" tires

I think some tuning and transmission tuning is in the works.

It already has 4.10 gears, so I am not anticipating a change there staying with a 35" tire

It has the largest brakes offered on a HD truck already, so no improvements required there

I can see front and rear bumpers with the aft member carrying the spare

I see a roof rack to replace the AWACS unit and additional lighting

I definitely see some AMP research steps to help the high-heeled family members ingress and egress operations.

It should get some weapons, some pioneer gear a bug out bag, some recovery equipment, a winch and a prayer for a long safe life.
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500
« Reply #16 on: November 16, 2018, 04:24:03 PM »
Very clean for a Midwest truck... :likebutton:
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« Reply #17 on: November 16, 2018, 05:08:07 PM »
Very clean for a Midwest truck... :likebutton:
The truck came from Oregon

The dealer searches OR, CA, WA, TX and so forth for rust free examples
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« Reply #18 on: November 16, 2018, 05:10:07 PM »
And yet the square land mark gets pushed Farther into the weeds


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« Reply #19 on: November 16, 2018, 05:42:22 PM »
DURABURB! DURABURB! Seriously jealous right now sir. Almost messed myself laughing at the AWACS comment Tex.
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« Reply #20 on: November 16, 2018, 05:43:02 PM »
Oh SNAP! he said “oil change”

Seriously Don that is one sweet truck. I’d have bought it too

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« Reply #21 on: November 16, 2018, 07:44:20 PM »
That is the cleanest 2002 I have seen. Sweet!


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« Reply #22 on: November 16, 2018, 08:39:54 PM »
Surprised you didn't do the Duraburb, getting real common.

You found a nice one there, 9.5SF rear with tires/wheels and my favorite color!!

Start with a nice tune, exhaust and level kit.

I say mount the guns in the AWAC pod,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500
« Reply #23 on: November 16, 2018, 09:01:15 PM »
Surprised you didn't do the Duraburb, getting real common.

You found a nice one there, 9.5SF rear with tires/wheels and my favorite color!!

Start with a nice tune, exhaust and level kit.

I say mount the guns in the AWAC pod,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
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No problem, Duane has a new 14 bolt full floater out of an 8.1L surb, about the same year. He scored a takeout from a brand new burb which was being upgraded nearby for work in Baghdad.

I was going to go after a grizzly locker anyway, so all the more reason!
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500
« Reply #24 on: November 16, 2018, 09:02:08 PM »
That is a nice burb for sure. Not only is it sweet, it still has a drain on the factory radiator!
..oh, and cabin filters!
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« Reply #25 on: November 16, 2018, 09:04:30 PM »
And yet the square land mark gets pushed Farther into the weeds


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Yea, so

I have been struggling with this for some time. It needs a bit of work to get it across the finish line. But then it can seat two, maybe three. That was always a sticking point for me.

The burb answers all the space problems

So I'll probably break down SquareD into parts and sell them off or use them on this current project. Unfortunately it's worth more in parts than as a whole. Anyone interested in it before disassembly starts PM me.
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« Reply #26 on: November 16, 2018, 09:07:37 PM »
That is a nice burb for sure. Not only is it sweet, it still has a drain on the factory radiator!
..oh, and cabin filters!
What do I need to change out/improve to get the thing bullet proof Ken?

And as far as the motor

Supercharger?
Turbocharger?
Heads/cam/headers/tune?

Stay 4.10 or go 4.56?

Lift?? (I could never leave it un-lifted with the terrain it will have to negotiate. 4" or 6"?

Trans??? Shift kit, or tuning or both?
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« Reply #27 on: November 16, 2018, 11:39:25 PM »
Saw that roof carrier and thought it might be the next tac-topper...

That’s a gem of a truck right there Don. I’d love a mid-2000’s burb but the wife wants newer...$$$$

I learned to drive in a 2002 burb (and a land yacht Buick), so this build will be near and dear to me lol


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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500
« Reply #28 on: November 17, 2018, 12:06:37 AM »
Have to lift it? You and Mike were able to get your trailers to The Farm, and they didn't appear to be lifted. ;)

I probably love to modify things (close to) as much as you, but...
Honestly, I would consider leaving it non-molested, being the peach that it is. Maybe some 31s, synthetics everywhere, and GTG past 200k.
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« Reply #29 on: November 17, 2018, 12:13:56 AM »
^^^^^YES^^^^^ :beercheers:

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« Reply #30 on: November 17, 2018, 01:50:17 AM »
You won't be happy with mileage I am sure. Same setup my 06 had and 10-13 was normal not pushing it.
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« Reply #31 on: November 17, 2018, 07:11:22 AM »
I like it.
So, Bobby...being the calculating trained warrior NCO that you are.  Take the appropriate action, Execute!
your standard grunt level CQB is just putting rounds and rounds on scary stuff till it stops scaring you!

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« Reply #32 on: November 17, 2018, 07:29:25 AM »
I think it looks good the way it sits Don.  I wouldnt lift it.  Free up the exhaust and maybe a supercharger,

Those interior parts are getting harder and harder to find.  The Graphite I have in the 2001 is super hard to find and I am always on the lookout for spares.  I would start keeping an eye out for parts that are going to wear eventually as they aren't made any more and NOS is almost non existent.
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« Reply #33 on: November 17, 2018, 09:00:25 AM »
Not lift it?

Are you people crazy?

Have you lost your minds?

I'm going to sign off, then sign back in and try to forget those words were EVER spoken

I need to find that button that fires everyone all at once!!!!!!!

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« Reply #34 on: November 17, 2018, 09:05:29 AM »
Sh!t I didn’t say not to lift it.  Put that puppy 10 inches in the air solid axle swap it and 1ton running gear!!!


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« Reply #35 on: November 17, 2018, 09:14:30 AM »
Sh!t I didn’t say not to lift it.  Put that puppy 10 inches in the air solid axle swap it and 1ton running gear!!!


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« Reply #36 on: November 17, 2018, 09:15:02 AM »
I feel better now

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At least one person here has some sense!
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« Reply #37 on: November 17, 2018, 09:17:25 AM »
I think it looks good the way it sits Don.  I wouldnt lift it.  Free up the exhaust and maybe a supercharger,

Those interior parts are getting harder and harder to find.  The Graphite I have in the 2001 is super hard to find and I am always on the lookout for spares.  I would start keeping an eye out for parts that are going to wear eventually as they aren't made any more and NOS is almost non existent.
Copy that Tex

So I was looking at crutchfield for a head unit. I am wanting a GPS/receiver with smart phone compatibility.

But the dash takes some reworking. I noticed that a new dash overlay plastic piece is offered that opens the physical space up to modern dimensions. I'll be adding that to be sure.
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« Reply #38 on: November 17, 2018, 09:18:13 AM »
I like it.
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« Reply #39 on: November 17, 2018, 09:19:05 AM »
You won't be happy with mileage I am sure. Same setup my 06 had and 10-13 was normal not pushing it.
Yea, I owned a Hummer H2 with the LQ4. I'd say around 10MPG is normal
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« Reply #40 on: November 17, 2018, 09:21:04 AM »
Saw that roof carrier and thought it might be the next tac-topper...

That’s a gem of a truck right there Don. I’d love a mid-2000’s burb but the wife wants newer...$$$$

I learned to drive in a 2002 burb (and a land yacht Buick), so this build will be near and dear to me lol


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Do it, get into the "Older is better" thing

I mean, hey, just look at me!

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« Reply #41 on: November 17, 2018, 09:26:16 AM »
Don. There is a company that retro fits the stock headunit to have Bluetooth and line outs for an amp. Keep it stick looking. The bezel you speak of is only made in black

Also if you ignore sage advice and do lift it. I need the crossmember and the little piece you have to saw off the crossmember mounting pocket please.


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« Reply #42 on: November 17, 2018, 10:13:37 AM »
I agree don’t lift it to the moon, at most a 2-3inch & even then I think it’s a poor choice. If you want larger tires I would say mod the fender wells.
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« Reply #43 on: November 17, 2018, 10:23:45 AM »
I agree don’t lift it to the moon, at most a 2-3inch & even then I think it’s a poor choice. If you want larger tires I would say mod the fender wells.
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Seriously, it just looks too low for my liking. And although the lower stockish stance would fit better with the family vibe, it would not do so well on the terrain at the farm while pulling a trailer up and over the berms
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« Reply #44 on: November 17, 2018, 10:29:11 AM »
Here is the same generation burb on 35's with a 6 in lift
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500
« Reply #45 on: November 17, 2018, 11:00:42 AM »
To tall, keep a lower cog.....

Especially if you’re planning on a rack / basket system

Ground clearance? You’re not rock crawling, you’re navigating a farm that had rv’s pulled into it with relative ease.....
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« Reply #46 on: November 17, 2018, 12:00:44 PM »
To tall, keep a lower cog.....

Especially if you’re planning on a rack / basket system

Ground clearance? You’re not rock crawling, you’re navigating a farm that had rv’s pulled into it with relative ease.....
Man, I've lost it!

I thought that 6" looks like the way it should have been built at the factory

Well maybe a bit above that, but I like the stance.

On the other hand it would cost a whole lot less to have a 33" tire and not need steps with a 3" lift, and handle a bit better, and...and...and, well, I'm starting to not like myself 8-/
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« Reply #47 on: November 17, 2018, 12:15:47 PM »
I looked up the build codes for this thing:
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« Reply #48 on: November 17, 2018, 12:20:58 PM »
I like it.
Ah, a man with good taste!

I always liked you!

You just want someone to come clear cut trees.
So, Bobby...being the calculating trained warrior NCO that you are.  Take the appropriate action, Execute!
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500
« Reply #49 on: November 17, 2018, 12:33:27 PM »
Don, if you decide to regear and lift. I have a front 9.5 IFS housing with the ear off, 4.56 gears and setup stuff from randys for a killer price!

Unless you go SAS????????????
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