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Title: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: Flyin6 on April 11, 2016, 09:31:59 AM
So this will be the beginning of my, well her (maybe ours??) GJ (Girly Jeep)

Ya so you all know the story of my Toureg that couldn't...

Couldn't live with all that, so I'm getting rid of the VW and that lying company with the hippie green peace face!

We are picking up a 2016 JK, well GJ Rubicon. There are some things to still work out, however I started out with a rag top 16 Ruby, a local thing and was workin' the deal

The salesman demo'd the top removal, and that was that. With those flimsy zippers, it was on to a removable hardtop. Second thing...I had selected one with the cloth seats, but the lady of the casa nixx'd that. Nope, gotta have heated leather, electric curling irons, the optional make-up carousel, and vanity mirrors at every corner...Hence: The GJ!

We found another. It is located some 250 miles away. Hard top, all the Ruby stuff, all the girly stuff, and a hard top which is resistant to gunfire, up to Crossman BB guns, I think!

I wanted the D44 axles and little more. To get the only thing in the whole toy that had any strength at all, one has to buy everything else cosmetic and fake...Ya know, just to make you feel better about stepping out into the wild (Man's world) and away from the safety of our Bernie Sanders Culture. Of course, She wanted to attach a beauty salon to that, so we are buying something I will never drive, unless someone start to think I'm going for the Bruce Jenner to Catlin' thing.

I will get stuck working on it of course. And I'll be forced to smile up the place, placidly and quietly while on one of those hardcore off road weekends when I get to take off the top and sit in it with the kiddies while driving down a county road. Other than that, I plan to avoid it... Like a gay bar! I don't like heeps. I owned two real CJ Jeeps, which I wheeled constantly, wreckin' and rollin em over to the point I'd stop with the body repairs. That was then (A better day???) Now we have the JK. All the looks with none of the performance, Like I always say, "The fake and plastic fantastic sleep machine!"

It's a jeep thing ya know, you wouldn't get it! Well, when it comes to Wranglers, neither do I! All these new girly things share in common with their WW2 predecessors is that they carry (girly) men around to get their man buns done up and toes pedicured or manicured (Whichever of those words that pertains to feets) Oh and the fact that some of those those girly men do on occasion play modern warfare, so other than picking up carpal tunnel syndrome injuries, about 30 extra pounds of fat, and PTSD from being reconstituted too many times last night while playing, these warriors of new resemble (From a great distance) the warriors of old who validated the real jeep thing.

So, ya, I guess I'm gettin one...

Details: Engine: Mini van mill
Torque: 17 ft lbs
Horsepower: Claimed 112
Ground clearance: 3.2"
Departure angle: Can clear most speed bumps
Axle strength: You don't mention axle strength and jeep in the same sentence!
People capacity: 4 men of old, 4 modern day fat girls, or are those fat boys...can't quite make them out...
Over all rating: Excellent: Gets one from Zales to Kohls, back home to QVC safely and without anyone noticing
Known danger: The vehicle is capable of putting the driver or passerby's who unfortunately found themselves staring at it...to sleep, due to lack of stimulus!
Suspension travel: Already told you...It can get from the jewelry store to the salon, so the suspension definitely can travel!

I'd say it is a great starting point (To someday melt down and make a good 1/2" ratchet drive set.
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: OldKooT on April 11, 2016, 10:57:07 AM
LoL... could be worse Don. A few axles, some Rubber and say another $20k it will be "trendy"

I am looking forward to this build where Don extends the value and handy factor of the back up camera in upcoming months  :D The "how to" article on Jeep accessorizing.
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: Flyin6 on April 11, 2016, 11:11:32 AM
LoL... could be worse Don. A few axles, some Rubber and say another $20k it will be "trendy"

I am looking forward to this build where Don extends the value and handy factor of the back up camera in upcoming months  :D The "how to" article on Jeep accessorizing.
Yea, I'm not looking forward to this one...

OK, really wanted that VW out of the garage

On a weekend a month ago, she worked late on a Saturday. She didn't come down to join us because the rutts in the "road" back into the hide were too deep...4WD only. And that 4WD better have some ground clearance and decent tires

Toureg, either count: Negative!

So that was that, the search started. No she idn't want a power wagon to drive to corporate hqts in heels.

So what can I get? The Kia and Hyundai dealerships have my pic up on their "Wanted dead, or deader" wall. So I can't even consider America's most popular kars!

That jeep with the grill that looks kinda like my old CJ's. CLose enough. Girls car that will never get wheeled and might make it back into the hide.

That's how the GJ was born!
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: stlaser on April 11, 2016, 12:36:38 PM
Well if you lay it on a bit thicker Don we might start swaying to the side that says you don't really like the jeep..... ::)

Recall we know you owned an h2! Lol
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: OldKooT on April 11, 2016, 12:42:54 PM
I know how it goes man. Kay was debating about a JK or a Power Wagon and she bought the truck. Now with the Power Wagon back on the road in my sons ownership I was worried she'd want a Jeep LoL

But as it turns out she's pressuring me hard to just restore Patch and she will drive that when the crews done. "translation" She will drive the Crew and patch will stay how it is most likely. My daily life routine doesn't lend it's self to shiny dent free equipment.
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: OldKooT on April 11, 2016, 12:46:40 PM
I wasn't going to go there with the H2...but it probably had to be done LoL
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: stlaser on April 11, 2016, 12:48:03 PM
At least I wasn't the only one thinkin it..... ;D
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: Flyin6 on April 11, 2016, 01:06:23 PM
Well if you lay it on a bit thicker Don we might start swaying to the side that says you don't really like the jeep..... ::)

Recall we know you owned an h2! Lol
Got me there

Hey I learned in church, that evil has no stronghold on you if you publically confess it

Well...I owned a H2

There, shot that one right in the foot!

Yea, and I'm not sayin I don't like the jeep. I mean lookin at it the way you do when you are viewing a beautiful fox at play off in the distance...through your riflescope

I like it, Like that!
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: Flyin6 on April 11, 2016, 01:10:40 PM
I know how it goes man. Kay was debating about a JK or a Power Wagon and she bought the truck. Now with the Power Wagon back on the road in my sons ownership I was worried she'd want a Jeep LoL

But as it turns out she's pressuring me hard to just restore Patch and she will drive that when the crews done. "translation" She will drive the Crew and patch will stay how it is most likely. My daily life routine doesn't lend it's self to shiny dent free equipment.
Shiny and dent free is over rated!

I'll post up pics of all the new scratches on the Chebby.

Remember that tree that fell on my driveway a few weeks ago, blocking my way out?

Well, I was tired, and cold, and hungry, so I just took a heading out through the shortest part of the woods...and tried not to pay too much attention to the scratchy noises

Have some good scars from all that...
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: stlaser on April 11, 2016, 03:46:28 PM
You know I had a thought this morning as you were describing your fancy new Barbie jeep. If Jesus were alive I think he might drive something like patch. Not that he as King doesn't deserve the best, nope I just think after doing some reading his vehicle might resemble an old beat up pickup. An imperfect pickup kinda like the people he surrounded himself with. But that's just my opinion & I'm a bit partial I suppose.
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: Flyin6 on April 11, 2016, 03:52:21 PM
You know I had a thought this morning as you were describing your fancy new Barbie jeep. If Jesus were alive I think he might drive something like patch. Not that he as King doesn't deserve the best, nope I just think after doing some reading his vehicle might resemble an old beat up pickup. An imperfect pickup kinda like the people he surrounded himself with. But that's just my opinion & I'm a bit partial I suppose.
I'd agree
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: Nate on April 11, 2016, 04:07:54 PM
were all screwed!
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: JR on April 11, 2016, 08:39:31 PM
I hear those jeeps have very thin axle walls? They do look phony with those tires sticking way out making em as wide as a full size rig.

I recall that h2 you had, but didn't know you were an expert at rolling CJs.

So, why not just get a nice 4dr 1/2 ton truck?
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: KensAuto on April 12, 2016, 11:39:27 AM
Because that's not what H6 wants JR.


(we both know Don wants that Jeep, but we can keep playing along for the sake of friendship)
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: JR on April 12, 2016, 11:47:38 AM
Yep, he is justifying it pretty well,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Ken, you do amsoil, I need some filters?
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: Flyin6 on April 12, 2016, 10:41:20 PM
Jeep quest: The saga continues!

Saturday we decided to buy

Kat deals with the dealership and locates three this side of the mississippi

One has a deal working

Both of the others is at the same stealership

This dealer contacted them and as of COB Tuesday, nothing heard from the owning delaership!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Can you believe that?

Some 250 miles away, and they aren't returning phone calls, answering fax's, texts, emails or messages on their website.

OK, well, Thur I am punching out for a few daze, so it will have to wait till next week I guess
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: TexasRedNeck on April 12, 2016, 10:50:04 PM
This has clearance and would fit in the corp HQ

(http://image.trucktrend.com/f/86545613+w660+h495+q80+re0+cr1+ar0/2017-mercedes-benz-g63-portal-axles-front.jpg)

Of course, the $137k price tag might be a turn off....
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: Flyin6 on April 13, 2016, 10:21:58 AM
Look at the ground clearance on that thing!
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: JR on April 13, 2016, 10:28:01 AM
Must have hub gearboxes like the H1.
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: Flyin6 on April 16, 2016, 11:32:59 PM
Speaking of ground clearance, I didn't bring my micrometers down to the farm so I couldn't get an accurate measurement...

But the GJ is officially here

And the cool part is it was picked up and driven directly to the farm. It was off road in its second hour of us owning it and it stayed off road for two days before returning (with mud, and its first scratch, err, scar!)
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: BobbyB on April 17, 2016, 11:06:18 AM
Looks nice.
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: stlaser on April 17, 2016, 01:36:03 PM
I think Don misrepresented the GJ concept, I don't even see any pink highlights? I mean it has lockers, 3/4 ton (center sections anyhow) axles, the tires look legit, the t-case has 4:1 low range, I agree it has a lot of girly interior stuff similar to c-max but from the looks of what the majority here drive that's acceptable. I tend to believe the wife units decision to get a capable mall mulch bed navigating vehicle is treading in on your manly mulch bed territory & you ain't comfortable with that at the present time...... ;D
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: OldKooT on April 17, 2016, 02:15:48 PM
Pretty nifty....safe to assume you have decided a emp event isn't likely?  ;D
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: JR on April 17, 2016, 02:27:52 PM
I think CMax and the GJ should have a drive off. He has the property, vehicles and drivers.
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: Flyin6 on April 17, 2016, 03:18:11 PM
I think Don misrepresented the GJ concept, I don't even see any pink highlights? I mean it has lockers, 3/4 ton (center sections anyhow) axles, the tires look legit, the t-case has 4:1 low range, I agree it has a lot of girly interior stuff similar to c-max but from the looks of what the majority here drive that's acceptable. I tend to believe the wife units decision to get a capable mall mulch bed navigating vehicle is treading in on your manly mulch bed territory & you ain't comfortable with that at the present time...... ;D

You're fired for insulting the boss...AGAIN!
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: Flyin6 on April 17, 2016, 03:20:15 PM
I mean, fired again, not insulting the boss again. Actually, I expect that to continue into infinity...
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: BobbyB on April 17, 2016, 03:32:07 PM
before returning (with mud, and its first scratch, err, scar!)

So you scratched/scarred up HH6's new ride...  :o
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: stlaser on April 17, 2016, 05:32:03 PM
I didn't think I said anything negative about the wife unit? ???

Oh wait, when you said boss you were referring to yourself? Isn't that speaking in third person? It's been awhile but I thought that was a grammatical no no? I'm sure I must be wrong as a distinguished author such as yourself would never do such a thing. Anyhow, now I'm really confused who you were talking about? Not that it matter as I've been fired!
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: Flyin6 on April 17, 2016, 09:08:21 PM
Pretty nifty....safe to assume you have decided a emp event isn't likely?  ;D
Naw, not that Norm.
The Toureg could not physically make it back to the farm...The road in IS THAT BAD!

So I got momma something which is obviously built for women, looks cute (to girls), can make it back in there and I don't like it. (Meaning I will not work on it much)
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: Flyin6 on April 17, 2016, 09:09:52 PM
Some more pics of it before I start a fluid level check:

Decent wheels although I don't like them. But the rub bar seems it would make for a good base to weld some tubing onto...
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: Flyin6 on April 17, 2016, 09:12:24 PM
Trail rated: Meaning can be parked near places like the Appalachian trail if one wants to do some hiking?
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: Flyin6 on April 17, 2016, 09:14:27 PM
Has some seats, switches, and things inside

Kath likes the pretty chrome parts...
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: Flyin6 on April 17, 2016, 09:16:39 PM
Has a roof, some stuff on the roof and of course a mirror, lighted, to check your look out there on the Ruby-con and diamond superstore shopping mall spree!
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: Flyin6 on April 17, 2016, 09:18:07 PM
Ours has doors, a cup holder and a dog!
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: Flyin6 on April 17, 2016, 09:19:19 PM
Oh and I checked out the wattage rating on that 115VAC plug, and yes it will power a small hair dryer and set of trail rated hair curlers!
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: Flyin6 on April 17, 2016, 09:20:54 PM
Ours had a spare tire as well, how thoughtful!

3 is the number

3 is the number of days we have owned it

3 is the number of days I have not been in it!

Cool!
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: stlaser on April 18, 2016, 12:22:04 PM
Big difference between this & an old cj huh?
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: fenriswolf039 on April 18, 2016, 12:33:22 PM
trail rated hair curlers!

(https://33.media.tumblr.com/b07035bdde09d78d048e64656c72e3f1/tumblr_inline_o35wn37JkA1tdiq3y_500.gif)
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: Flyin6 on April 18, 2016, 03:52:20 PM
Big difference between this & an old cj huh?

^^^ I think I'm gettin to him! ^^^^
;-))
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: stlaser on April 18, 2016, 04:54:40 PM
Well, first mine ain't as hoity toity as your wife's. Second I started thinking about the upgrades between my jk & my old tj. That in itself is a big difference. Then was thinking about your wife's jk & that old cj you spoke about. Still don't think the new jk comes close to that h2 you had though.....
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: Nate on April 18, 2016, 05:16:17 PM
I think Kathy needs to make an appearance on here every now and then just to make sure that don stays straight.............;D
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: stlaser on April 18, 2016, 05:46:27 PM
I think Kathy needs to make an appearance on here every now and then just to make sure that don stays straight.............;D

Why didn't I think of that!?!
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: JR on April 18, 2016, 07:14:56 PM
I will 3rd that, keep the old man honest,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: Nate on April 18, 2016, 07:20:43 PM
here you go don, you can get the frau one of these here covers................

https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=a+girl+and+her+jeep+you+wouldn%27t+understand+tire+cover
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: Dustoff35 on April 18, 2016, 07:30:24 PM
^^^Needs a lift...   Desperately...^^^





Here is what 2-1/2" of lift and 33's looks like on my wife's jeep.
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: Nate on April 18, 2016, 07:39:06 PM
duane's poking the bear................!

you just have to get Kathy to go along with the lift idea duane and then we can all give don some poking fun as he is wrenching on the jeep....;D
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: Dustoff35 on April 18, 2016, 07:48:47 PM
I'm sure Kathy will not let him touch her Jeep...  That's probably why he is mocking it so severely...

She saw what my son and I did to my wife's JK at the farm...

Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: stlaser on April 18, 2016, 07:57:52 PM
Nice! Glad to see you are still hanging around.....
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: JR on April 18, 2016, 07:59:02 PM
Now that looks good. A little tire and lift does wonders.
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: Dustoff35 on April 18, 2016, 08:27:38 PM
The JK is a decent vehicle with a ton of aftermarket support.  Our 2012 base model Sport has over 80,000 miles on it and it gets around your farm just fine.  The Rubicon you bought has a lot of nice options already.  D44's front and rear, lockers, sway disconnects, low ratio x-fer case.  The D44's are good axles.  Remember, they were put under 3/4 ton pickups in the 1970's.  In a vehicle as light as that JK, they will hold up well unless you get crazy with tire size or you abuse it like your John Deere.  ;D   
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: stlaser on April 18, 2016, 08:36:12 PM
Lol, big Ouch!
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: Flyin6 on April 18, 2016, 08:50:45 PM
Well, first mine ain't as hoity toity as your wife's. Second I started thinking about the upgrades between my jk & my old tj. That in itself is a big difference. Then was thinking about your wife's jk & that old cj you spoke about. Still don't think the new jk comes close to that h2 you had though.....
Nothing comes close to that H2 I had.

As in nothing or anybody actually wants to.

I can't believe I purchased that

Way too heavy

10 MPG on eco cruise.

No power, ever

needed 2.5 parking spaces. 2 For the vehicle, and 1/2 more if you wanted to open the doors...

Suspension travel measured in milimeters

But it said it was a trail beast, somewhere, so a couple fools would buy it!
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: Flyin6 on April 18, 2016, 08:53:14 PM
here you go don, you can get the frau one of these here covers................

https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=a+girl+and+her+jeep+you+wouldn%27t+understand+tire+cover
And I just ordered the headlight eyelashes!
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: stlaser on April 18, 2016, 09:46:42 PM
Nothing comes close to that H2 I had.

As in nothing or anybody actually wants to.

I can't believe I purchased that

Way too heavy

10 MPG on eco cruise.

No power, ever

needed 2.5 parking spaces. 2 For the vehicle, and 1/2 more if you wanted to open the doors...

Suspension travel measured in milimeters

But it said it was a trail beast, somewhere, so a couple fools would buy it!

But they are swapping duramax's in them out here now...
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: Flyin6 on April 18, 2016, 10:00:35 PM
Nothing comes close to that H2 I had.

As in nothing or anybody actually wants to.

I can't believe I purchased that

Way too heavy

10 MPG on eco cruise.

No power, ever

needed 2.5 parking spaces. 2 For the vehicle, and 1/2 more if you wanted to open the doors...

Suspension travel measured in milimeters

But it said it was a trail beast, somewhere, so a couple fools would buy it!

But they are swapping duramax's in them out here now...
They still need everything. D-Max engine and transmission, and all the electronics, then remember the 14 bolt in that truck is a semi floater, so that Definitely has to go. Then you still have that 9.5" front independent junk. Do a real FF 14 bolt and a D60 SAS and then, finally you have a way too wide Jeep. It doesn't even tow well because it is so short.
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: stlaser on April 18, 2016, 10:04:09 PM
I didn't claim I cared for it even with the duramax drivetrain just sayin there were some yuppies who were doing the swaps out here. Probably some hippies over in the people's republic of Boulder if I had to guess!
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: JR on April 19, 2016, 12:52:26 AM
Those 14 semis in there are not so bad. Not as good as the 14ff or the 11.5aam for sure, but they hold on OK.

SAS is the only way on that that though, just no other way. Heck the dodge 9.5 might be just right with the coils.

Anyway, you don't have it anymore, but you did drop the price of SD into one, right?
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: OldKooT on April 19, 2016, 09:07:06 AM
LoL @ Beat it like his Deere...
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: cudakidd53 on April 19, 2016, 09:27:31 AM
LoL @ Beat it like his Deere...

Deere with operator induced chronic wasting disease.......... ;D  TURN SARGE LOOSE and rest the Deere for mowing and mulch!
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: Flyin6 on April 21, 2016, 11:25:44 PM
LoL @ Beat it like his Deere...
Duane was down at the farm with me today. Watching me fall off things

He was commenting on the Deere

He thinks one hour of usage by me is equal to 75 hours compared to other people.

He may be right, but I pointed out I always get every single ounce of whatever it can give me out of that machine!
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: OldKooT on April 22, 2016, 11:13:05 AM
True story... I once applied for a position durability testing Oskosh equipment at their proving grounds. I was told after the test drive "no thanks, your not an average user" LoL



Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: JR on April 22, 2016, 02:17:48 PM
I think few of us here are.
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: stlaser on April 22, 2016, 04:17:22 PM
True story... I once applied for a position durability testing Oskosh equipment at their proving grounds. I was told after the test drive "no thanks, your not an average user" LoL

That up in WI? Reason I ask is shop I used to gm we were the OME supplier on quite a few parts. If memory serves me correctly most went to WI but I believe some went out to CT as well.
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: BobbyB on April 22, 2016, 08:55:01 PM
That up in WI? Reason I ask is shop I used to gm we were the OME supplier on quite a few parts. If memory serves me correctly most went to WI but I believe some went out to CT as well.

Yes, in Oshkosh.
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: OldKooT on April 24, 2016, 07:51:13 PM
Yeah it was in Wis many years ago before I got smart and moved LoL

Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: Armalite on July 03, 2016, 04:35:12 PM
Nice jeep Don!  It will look good in your lineup. 
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: Flyin6 on July 03, 2016, 05:46:36 PM
Nice jeep Don!  It will look good in your lineup. 
Thanks Ash!

It got covered in mud again this weekend. It's literally been muddy more than half its life! Got into some soupy 3"-4" deep mud and some with standing water over it. Those old school BFG's crawled right through it
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: Flyin6 on December 19, 2016, 09:58:21 AM
Well, the Frau took a pic of a jeep that she wants her's to look like

Read: Interest in the thing by her

Now she is not a jeep girl, or a truck girl, nope, she is a girly girl. I have a pic of her bass fishing (And catchin' a biggin') while in heels!

So anyway looking and analyzing the pic which is on her phone, I can see that it

1. Has a moderate lift...maybe 2.5"-3"
2. It has a mini bumper that stays frame rails wide
3. Has just slightly larger tires
4. Has darkened wheels
5. Has some sort of flatty/shorter fenders
6. Has a winch
7. Has a full length light bar atop the windshield
8. Has a more aggressive rock rail
9. Is still an ugly jeep...
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: Flyin6 on December 19, 2016, 10:05:57 AM
What she wants to do when I get rich (And I just may get rich in the not too distant future) is to convert the heep into a "Fun" vehicle. She wants a burb or Tahoe to drive around in, while wasting future generations gas supply while idling and talking to friends...

Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: JR on December 19, 2016, 12:56:45 PM
No picture?
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: OldKooT on December 19, 2016, 01:38:35 PM
what ya could do.... buy a burb the same year as yr Duramax, and swap the goodies back and forth. Build her a replacement for the Jeep LoL



Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: rpar86 on December 19, 2016, 04:49:18 PM
No picture?

Of the jeep, or her catching the fish while wearing heels? ;) LOL
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: Flyin6 on December 19, 2016, 05:01:49 PM
No picture?

Of the jeep, or her catching the fish while wearing heels? ;) LOL
Set out on a quest, and found it

Here she is some years ago, with a fresh caught bass wearing high heels

Poor pic, but you can see one heel...And, her actual heels were covered in mud from the soft dirt around the neighbor's pond
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: Flyin6 on September 26, 2017, 11:00:56 PM
In retrospect I have to laugh at myself

You see, today I changed the oil in the GJ for the first time myself

She had been getting the oil changed at the stealership, but this time I did it for her.

Oil change...

We know how those go...

So I get the oil changed and discover that mini straw lookin oil filter thing...WHAT IS THAT???

Well, as oil changes go with me, one thing leads to another.

She tore up one of the "Wings" of that awful looking front bumper, so I decided to just can it, modify it, or do something with it. About half way through taking it off, I took a break and sat on the computer...Looking at Jeep bumpers. I come across this cool lookin' one at extreme jeeps. So I hit the order button. It just shipped

While in the site I couldn't help but notice all the cool wheels, lift kits, muffla's lights, snorkels and so forth.

I think I caught something...Ordered some lights too!

Then I go back outside and immediately install a shearling wool seat cover, then get to studying things. I study things just before tearing them out for something else...
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: Flyin6 on September 26, 2017, 11:06:38 PM
Correction:

The company is

Extreme Terrain 4X4 Outfitters
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: stlaser on September 26, 2017, 11:13:43 PM
Correction:

The company is

Extreme Terrain 4X4 Outfitters

Hey Tate, isn't that the Chinese owned outfit?  :popcorn:
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: JR on September 26, 2017, 11:24:15 PM
Only a bumper,,,,,,,,,,,no

What is the straw thingy?
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: Bigdave_185 on September 27, 2017, 08:31:48 AM
Cummins swap her GJ.  I know where you can get a good motor. 


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Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: KensAuto on September 27, 2017, 10:44:44 AM
^^I wouldn't call a motor that doesn't run a good motor.
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: EL TATE on September 27, 2017, 10:59:33 AM
Correction:

The company is

Extreme Terrain 4X4 Outfitters

Hey Tate, isn't that the Chinese owned outfit?  :popcorn:

Nope, these guys are in Malvern, PA. They're affiliated w/ American Muscle out there. They are customers of ours. Now that doesn't exclude them from Chinese products...
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: Flyin6 on October 03, 2017, 07:30:30 PM
Startin' Box mountain again.

I am ordering stuff for the GJ but thing is, I am adding everything without her knowing.

So far I have the bumper, LED headlights, and two LED round driving lights for the hoop

Sunday was supposed to be D-Day for the bumper install, but she skedaddled with the GJ over to visit her WW2 veteran Ranger Uncle. SHe stayed until after dark, so we lost that opportunity.
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: Bigdave_185 on October 04, 2017, 10:33:31 PM
Head light issues again.  Here we go


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Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: Armalite on October 12, 2017, 04:49:54 PM
uh oh... Not lights again...

Rigid 48" light bar across the top of the windshield for the jeep.  Will turn night time into daylight... 
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: Flyin6 on October 12, 2017, 11:24:03 PM
uh oh... Not lights again...

Rigid 48" light bar across the top of the windshield for the jeep.  Will turn night time into daylight... 
Reflection off the hood??
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: TexasRedNeck on October 13, 2017, 06:37:46 AM
Flat black the hood.


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Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: Bigdave_185 on October 13, 2017, 10:44:56 AM
Flat black the hood.   Once we get a LB on the jeeep we will put on on the truck I am sure. 


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Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: JR on October 13, 2017, 12:17:25 PM
Had the FB on the 77, loved it.
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: Flyin6 on October 13, 2017, 05:14:48 PM
The tires are holding up very well. She has over 40,000 miles on this thing and we've only owned it a year and six months.

I'd say the tread is around 50% on the shoulders which is the area of the greatest wear.
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: Flyin6 on October 13, 2017, 05:16:48 PM
Next, its time for those LED headlight bulbs. First we had to pull the front grill cover which is easily removed after prying out some simple plastic pop tabs
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: Flyin6 on October 13, 2017, 05:18:13 PM
Then the headlights themselves come out with the removal of four pesky torx head screws
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: Flyin6 on October 13, 2017, 05:19:01 PM
Out with the factory halogens
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: Flyin6 on October 13, 2017, 05:22:09 PM
The new LED places the light emission source a bit deeper into the housing which is going to do two different things
1. Cause the light to have a hot spot and probably not be perfectly focused

2. Cause BigDave to have a minor anxiety attack.

More because of #2 than the cost effective nature of these LED's in my mind they were a solid purchase!
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: Flyin6 on October 13, 2017, 05:23:43 PM
Then the rest of the LED assembly is attached and readied to be reinstalled
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: Flyin6 on October 13, 2017, 05:24:32 PM
Quite the difference eh?
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: Flyin6 on October 13, 2017, 05:25:17 PM
I need a Canadian to give me a spell check on the "eh" please...
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: Flyin6 on October 13, 2017, 05:27:16 PM
For now only one headlamp is to be installed. I am about to add some additional lighting and I want the high beam circuit to switch a relay to power those additional lights.
So why not rip off the bumper for practice!
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: Flyin6 on October 13, 2017, 05:30:48 PM
This RedRock bumper from Extreme Terrain is junk!

The welds are all over the place with only about 1/2 of each joint welded, as if in some giant skip-weld procedure and the hoop did not fir at all. Look at this huge misalignment of the bolt holes:
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: Flyin6 on October 13, 2017, 05:32:35 PM
So I had to get the rotary file out and elongate the holes to get the hoop to bolt up. That is really poor for a brand new part. THis is nothing more than more chinese junk!
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: Flyin6 on October 13, 2017, 05:34:48 PM
Yea, not happy with having spent $369 + shipping to get a hunk of junk like that...

But, I threw it on there anyway. Afterall, its a GJ, not like a heavy duty truck, just a toy really.
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: Flyin6 on October 13, 2017, 05:35:46 PM
It did come with some Clevis D-Rings which I threw onto the bumper for now
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: Flyin6 on October 13, 2017, 05:37:21 PM
Next I added the first of several off road lights. These are driving LED lights. LED does not do long range very well, but driving and flood they excel at
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: Flyin6 on October 13, 2017, 05:40:19 PM
These are triggered by illumination of the high beams through a relay carrying their own 40A circuit wired directly to the battery

That thing sits so low from the factory, that I think I'll see if I can get a 2017 Z06 front splitter to bolt up. Might as well build on the road hugging formula theme that Jeep is using here!
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: Flyin6 on October 13, 2017, 05:42:31 PM
Being all road-hog filthy from rollin' in the dirt, I thought it was a good time to pull out the hose and do something useful. So I challenged the big pre-ranger to wash the dog while I squirted him. One has to accomplish his mission without distraction and under duress if he is a Ranger...Call it training! ;-))
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: stlaser on October 13, 2017, 06:22:55 PM
So I had to get the rotary file out and elongate the holes to get the hoop to bolt up. That is really poor for a brand new part. THis is nothing more than more chinese junk!

Didn't I mention something along those lines Tate?
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: Sammconn on October 13, 2017, 07:22:56 PM
I need a Canadian to give me a spell check on the "eh" please...
Yer good Chief :likebutton:
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: EL TATE on October 16, 2017, 11:09:20 AM
So I had to get the rotary file out and elongate the holes to get the hoop to bolt up. That is really poor for a brand new part. THis is nothing more than more chinese junk!

Didn't I mention something along those lines Tate?

I do seem to recall a previous mention there...
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: Flyin6 on December 14, 2017, 10:20:53 PM
Christmas for the GJ

Mark over at National Tire and wheel who I now have on speed-dial has set me up with tires and wheels for the Girly Jeep.

These are Christmas presents for the Wife, since she needs tires, and wanted the GJ to be a bit more manley,. I wanted a good highway ride since 99.999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999%

of her miles are on the road, although I recorded 26" of difficult off road driving on our lawn acounting for the

0.000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001 difference.

I just left it up to Mark who decided on 285/70R-17 tires which are either 11.00 or 11.50 Nitto terra grapplers mounted on Fuel D552 wheels. He also shipped me the appropriate Rough Country 2.5" lift kit

Note that the stock pic is a GJ of the exact same color as the GJ we keep hidden in her garage
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: JR on December 14, 2017, 10:50:17 PM
Looks good, now get to it!
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: Bigdave_185 on December 15, 2017, 10:43:28 AM
That picture color and wheel combo looks really good


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Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: stlaser on December 15, 2017, 01:19:03 PM
Assuming you didn’t get front lower control arms with that kit. You may want to get them on order.....
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: Flyin6 on December 15, 2017, 06:49:34 PM
That picture color and wheel combo looks really good


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copy that!

Wait till you see hers with those wheels...should be a spittin' image
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: OldKooT on December 18, 2017, 10:19:46 AM
What did those lights cost Don?
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: Flyin6 on December 18, 2017, 12:37:29 PM
What did those lights cost Don?

Cheap Norm, wanna say $50ish

Surprisingly, they work well...Have them wired to activate when she flips on the high beams
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: Flyin6 on December 25, 2017, 12:13:31 PM
OK, thanks to Mark over at National Tire and Wheel, the GJ is about to get new shoes and a face lift (Get it, "Face-LIFT?")

Family and calories all day today, but tomorrow the surgery begins!
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: JR on December 25, 2017, 12:56:49 PM
 :likebutton:
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: Bigdave_185 on December 25, 2017, 05:14:59 PM
:)


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Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: Higher Caliber on December 26, 2017, 09:30:24 PM
It’s tomorrow... ... ...


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Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: stlaser on December 26, 2017, 10:22:42 PM
So I’m thinking here.......

Is it possible he pulled the GJ into the bay where SQ D sat for so long then got distracted (one of cmax’s truck tires were probably too close to a precarious mulch bed) and when he turned back around he forgot what he was actually going to do today?  :popcorn:
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: JR on December 26, 2017, 10:40:33 PM
Waiting for the dust to settle,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, :facepalm:
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: Nate on December 27, 2017, 09:28:53 AM
well looking at one of those tire pics, there seems to be some red gunk like candy on the side wall.  also those tires are inside of the house and not the garage.........so I am sure HH6 has was/is not happy........stickpoke
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: Flyin6 on December 27, 2017, 12:34:58 PM
OK, here's what's up

The lift is about 50% installed. Nothing to get excited about, just a simple bracket lift which does not impress me much at all (Like everything else about these GJ's)

So obviously my Frau has to take the truck to work.

That was fine until it broke down!

Will barely run, and only for 30 seconds or so

DTC:
P1082 (Has something to do with fuel)
P128E which I think has something to do with low fuel rail fuel pressure
P2510 No clue yet

So it's 10F outside. I am wondering if I have some issue that is low temp related, as in ice in the fuel line.

I noticed that when I get the thing started and floor it in neutral it will only rev to maybe 2200-3000 RPM. THen after sitting for five minutes I can start if and rev it to 4500ish.

So I'm looking at plain jane left over 2017 GMC 2500HD's with the 6.0

That's how I may fix this!

$39,900 for a base 2500HD with a warranty!

Quit buggin' me, back to that spindly boxy tiny differential, small bolt only five lug nut tiny tire, pretty ugly GJ so I can at least get one vehicle running!
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: Flyin6 on December 27, 2017, 12:36:18 PM
SDOTin^^^^^

(Self D.O.T in' there)
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: JR on December 27, 2017, 02:04:32 PM
 :popcorn:
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: EL TATE on December 27, 2017, 02:14:49 PM
2012+ JK's have all sorts of new fangled e lec tronics on them that get all scrambled up when you mess with them, especially the stability and trac control seem to like to throw the dang things into limp mode with the slightest modifications. do you have an AEV procal module for programming? I know it may be completely unrelated, just spitballing ideas here.
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: stlaser on December 27, 2017, 02:47:04 PM
Pics? :popcorn:

Couple things, what Tate said those newer ones electronics are a pia & I just spent $700 on a rebuilt ecm because mine wasn’t reading any of the 4 new o2 sensors. I know I didn’t document it because I couldn’t figure it out. Shop around corner did, anyhow my other thought is this is only the beginning Don. How much do you want to put into GJ because it’s been limited so far and they constantly try to suck you dry......
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: KensAuto on December 27, 2017, 03:52:48 PM
I think the boss was talkin' 'bout Cmax up there^^^

Don, P1082 is the fuel vacuum switch (lift pump inop, restriction between injection pump and tank, ice....)
        P128e= low fuel pressure
and P2510 is an issue with the PCM power relay. That code can be caused by low/bad batteries, possibly from her cranking it too long. The first code is the important one.
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: stlaser on December 27, 2017, 04:36:53 PM
Crappy Kroger gas might have water in it? Try a bottle of heat.
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: KensAuto on December 27, 2017, 04:52:14 PM
Especially if she put gas in it.  lol
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: stlaser on December 27, 2017, 05:21:10 PM
Especially if she put gas in it.  lol

Per the usual I wasn’t paying attention but since we are discussing the truck not the GJ being broke. I used to run that Kroger diesel & always ran de icer bottle every other tank when it got teens and lower. Never had issues this way with that fuel.
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: EL TATE on December 27, 2017, 05:54:20 PM
I think the boss was talkin' 'bout Cmax up there^^^

Don, P1082 is the fuel vacuum switch (lift pump inop, restriction between injection pump and tank, ice....)
        P128e= low fuel pressure
and P2510 is an issue with the PCM power relay. That code can be caused by low/bad batteries, possibly from her cranking it too long. The first code is the important one.

Yeah, didn't proof read his post very well.
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: TexasRedNeck on December 27, 2017, 07:28:31 PM
Don, try changing the filters and putting some additive in the tank.  I bet that clears it up.  You may have had some water in the separator and it iced up.
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: Flyin6 on December 27, 2017, 08:17:10 PM
OK, so I limped it home into the driveway

Plugged in the block heater for about an hour

It started right up and ran normally.

Kept the block heater on it all day. Started and ran it several times with no abnormalities what so ever

I run Costco fuel, but am adding some deicer tomorrow. Truck seems to run normally now.

I did not drive it because I worked in a garage which was 12F most of the day finishing up the lift kit install

Here's the start of that project:
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: Flyin6 on December 27, 2017, 08:18:58 PM
Here's the contents of the Rough Country 2.5" bracket only lift using stock shocks and springs (Intended for girls!):
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: Flyin6 on December 27, 2017, 08:21:38 PM
First task is to tear it down

Simple really, just work.

Remove lower shock bolt, remove sway bar link and discard, relocate brake lines 2" lower, R&R springs and Isolator after first stuffing the new 2.5" spacer onto the upper coil spring retainer/mount
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: Flyin6 on December 27, 2017, 08:22:51 PM
Stock the bottom of the fender lip is at 35 1/8" (Suitable for road racing and high speed autobahn runs)
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: Flyin6 on December 27, 2017, 08:27:20 PM
BTW, this was a big character building exercise for me. First I don't hold these GJ's in high regard. Second, this has to be the first time I ever purchased all terrain tires. Next, I don't like working on these feminine things, and finally a couple of my fingers froze solid and broke off.

As for the difficulty of the project, using the five wrench standard, I'd give it a wrench and a half (Two if you have similar feelings about these spindly things.)

Reversing the process, one uses most of the stock hardware which in my view is wise as those stock parts are high quality and of proper strength

Lifted front height came in at 38 3/4" a total lift of kit and tires of 3 5/8"
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: Flyin6 on December 27, 2017, 08:29:44 PM
And here it is all done!

I decided to just lift the front end and say to heck with it. I mean, who cares its a jeep!
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: Flyin6 on December 27, 2017, 08:31:36 PM
OK, just messin' with ya

Here's the action in the aft end of this pretty, cute little thing!
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: Flyin6 on December 27, 2017, 08:33:57 PM
BTW, I had also ordered the plastic eyelashes for the headlights, but they came in in black...She's a blonde, so I held off on that install!

The rear track bar relocation/extension was about the most challenging of the steps and it wasn't hard, only complicated by the right hand missing fingers...
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: Flyin6 on December 27, 2017, 08:38:41 PM
That Dana 44 is smaller than the gearbox on my bush hog!

Anyhow, I took it for a drive, and I have to say, it rides great! Much quieter, and all the square sides of the previous tires are gone. It has suffered a noticeable loss of power, and since it never had any to begin with it is not a good thing. In cruise at 70 mph, it was dropping down a gear in hills. It never did that before. Maybe the engine will explode, blowing the thing apart which will get it out of my driveway...One can only dream!

Couple of poser shots for ya

Now back to cleaning bathrooms and doing dishes. I(I need something more interesting to do to liven my spirits after that frozen wasteland wrench party!)
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: TexasRedNeck on December 27, 2017, 09:16:55 PM
Looks good Don. I picked busted knuckles. Not sure which DoT had fingers...


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Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: stlaser on December 27, 2017, 09:55:21 PM
Any concerns on that rear track bar relocate bracket? It looks a bit “flimsy” from the angle those pictures were snapped. As you know there is a whole lot of force on that bracket, on my ome kit they dropped it on the frame side & it’s pretty beefy.
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: JR on December 27, 2017, 11:36:44 PM
How did you loose fingers Don? I only see the pre-ranger working.

Does look good though. Tell the pre-ranger he did a good job.

I do hear they like to bend the 44 axle tubes.
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: BobbyB on December 28, 2017, 06:02:38 AM
What size are the stock tires/wheels?
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: TexasRedNeck on December 28, 2017, 06:39:58 AM
I think they make stiffening tubes that go inside the axle housing.  Slide out the shafts, slide in the axle stiffener and reinstall the shafts.


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Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: stlaser on December 28, 2017, 08:51:55 AM
I think they make stiffening tubes that go inside the axle housing.  Slide out the shafts, slide in the axle stiffener and reinstall the shafts.


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They make weld in tubes (internal) using plug welds for front as well as outer reinforcement tube weld on. The inner c’s bend too & they have gusset kits. It’s all just a bandaid, not that HH6 will probably bend any of it pounding pavement or a muddy dirt track to the hide. Not sure about rear upgrades as I don’t think they are as weak being non steer axle.
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: TexasRedNeck on December 28, 2017, 09:01:42 AM
Yeah. Listen to that guy ^. I’ve never owned a Jeep


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Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: EL TATE on December 28, 2017, 10:14:52 AM
That Dana 44 is smaller than the gearbox on my bush hog!

Anyhow, I took it for a drive, and I have to say, it rides great! Much quieter, and all the square sides of the previous tires are gone. It has suffered a noticeable loss of power, and since it never had any to begin with it is not a good thing. In cruise at 70 mph, it was dropping down a gear in hills. It never did that before. Maybe the engine will explode, blowing the thing apart which will get it out of my driveway...One can only dream!

Couple of poser shots for ya

Now back to cleaning bathrooms and doing dishes. I(I need something more interesting to do to liven my spirits after that frozen wasteland wrench party!)

Looks great. They are pretty gutless out of the box, and adding the larger tires doesn't help much. if it's an auto, then probably 3.21 gears factory. A set of 4.11 would fix her up just right, but that's just another wrench party in the cold, plus you'd need to program to correct it. The tube stiffeners would be appropriate if you were using it as God intended, off road, but not for a daily unless the tuck has a lot of really big pot holes and mulch piles to navigate. Even then, I would imagine the Frau would be able to negotiate those obstacles even with two different shoes.
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: Flyin6 on December 28, 2017, 10:16:10 AM
How did you loose fingers Don? I only see the pre-ranger working.

Does look good though. Tell the pre-ranger he did a good job.

I do hear they like to bend the 44 axle tubes.
Well, it turns out I only thought I lost em'

I couldn't feel them for best part of a day due to handling tools and parts which were about 100 degrees below zero. Later in the night, they thawed out and I realized they were still installed and functional.
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: Flyin6 on December 28, 2017, 10:17:35 AM
That Dana 44 is smaller than the gearbox on my bush hog!

Anyhow, I took it for a drive, and I have to say, it rides great! Much quieter, and all the square sides of the previous tires are gone. It has suffered a noticeable loss of power, and since it never had any to begin with it is not a good thing. In cruise at 70 mph, it was dropping down a gear in hills. It never did that before. Maybe the engine will explode, blowing the thing apart which will get it out of my driveway...One can only dream!

Couple of poser shots for ya

Now back to cleaning bathrooms and doing dishes. I(I need something more interesting to do to liven my spirits after that frozen wasteland wrench party!)

Looks great. They are pretty gutless out of the box, and adding the larger tires doesn't help much. if it's an auto, then probably 3.21 gears factory. A set of 4.11 would fix her up just right, but that's just another wrench party in the cold, plus you'd need to program to correct it. The tube stiffeners would be appropriate if you were using it as God intended, off road, but not for a daily unless the tuck has a lot of really big pot holes and mulch piles to navigate. Even then, I would imagine the Frau would be able to negotiate those obstacles even with two different shoes.
Tater, the rubies come with a 3.73 as the baseline, hers has 4.10's, the optional gear. I had to look high and low to find one with the 4.10 gear.
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: Flyin6 on December 28, 2017, 10:23:59 AM
That Dana 44 is smaller than the gearbox on my bush hog!

Anyhow, I took it for a drive, and I have to say, it rides great! Much quieter, and all the square sides of the previous tires are gone. It has suffered a noticeable loss of power, and since it never had any to begin with it is not a good thing. In cruise at 70 mph, it was dropping down a gear in hills. It never did that before. Maybe the engine will explode, blowing the thing apart which will get it out of my driveway...One can only dream!

Couple of poser shots for ya

Now back to cleaning bathrooms and doing dishes. I(I need something more interesting to do to liven my spirits after that frozen wasteland wrench party!)

Looks great. They are pretty gutless out of the box, and adding the larger tires doesn't help much. if it's an auto, then probably 3.21 gears factory. A set of 4.11 would fix her up just right, but that's just another wrench party in the cold, plus you'd need to program to correct it. The tube stiffeners would be appropriate if you were using it as God intended, off road, but not for a daily unless the tuck has a lot of really big pot holes and mulch piles to navigate. Even then, I would imagine the Frau would be able to negotiate those obstacles even with two different shoes.

You know about her propensity to leave the house wearing two different shoes? Or in one case, no shoes at all?

Kentucky girls...

You know it is said that people in the tuck don't wear shoes. That stems from the post civil war days which found our state in a terrible condition. Famine, no money or jobs, and as a result in a lot of cases, no shoes!

And the bridge over the ohio between Northern KY and Cincinnati, OH has the north bound lane on the lower deck and the south bound lane on the top deck

Reason is, that the people heading south into Kentucky toss their shoes, and those heading back into Ohio are there to catch/use them ;-))   True story...or maybe not, but sounds about right

So Christmas my next to youngest grand daughter shows up at my front door, in the snow, mind you, with, yep, you guessed it...No shoes. Youngest one didn't have any either, but she was being carried.

Kentucky girls!
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: EL TATE on December 28, 2017, 10:24:08 AM
Dang, without all the usual bells and whistles most jokers bolt on to those I didn't think it was a rubi. with 4.11 and 33" you should be able to get your power back with a tuner, just need to re-set the shift points. AEV makes a good one.
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: OldKooT on December 28, 2017, 10:28:39 AM
If ya take off the top and knock out the windshield, they pick up power noticeably. Per my hired hands claim anyway.

He is now swapping a Hemi into it because...I guess I over pay him.
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: Flyin6 on December 28, 2017, 10:29:47 AM
How did you loose fingers Don? I only see the pre-ranger working.

Does look good though. Tell the pre-ranger he did a good job.

I do hear they like to bend the 44 axle tubes.
Well, it turns out I only thought I lost em'

I couldn't feel them for best part of a day due to handling tools and parts which were about 100 degrees below zero. Later in the night, they thawed out and I realized they were still installed and functional.
Any concerns on that rear track bar relocate bracket? It looks a bit “flimsy” from the angle those pictures were snapped. As you know there is a whole lot of force on that bracket, on my ome kit they dropped it on the frame side & it’s pretty beefy.
It seemed pretty stout to me.

Had the original attachment bolt with a crush sleeve on the inside, a top to bottom bolt, then the two wing bolts.

Hey, its a jeep, nothing on that thing all that substantial anyway!

Funny, I told her about how I was insulting the brand on my posts from last night and mentioned the eyelash thing

Her eyes lit up and she asked, "Can I get those? They look so nice for my girl's jeep."

Eyelashes on a jeep...What's next a frilly bonnet for an Abrams tank with a transvestite crew shooting lavender scented pink pixie dust? 
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: Flyin6 on December 28, 2017, 10:31:49 AM
If ya take off the top and knock out the windshield, they pick up power noticeably. Per my hired hands claim anyway.

He is now swapping a Hemi into it because...I guess I over pay him.
Now Norm, just stop it

I am so easily baited into these projects, and you know it!

But having said that, when/if the time comes, I could easily imagine doing that 2.8 liter Cummins 4 cyl diesel into it. (I'm not saying I always intended to do that or anything...)
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: Flyin6 on December 28, 2017, 10:32:42 AM
Dang, without all the usual bells and whistles most jokers bolt on to those I didn't think it was a rubi. with 4.11 and 33" you should be able to get your power back with a tuner, just need to re-set the shift points. AEV makes a good one.
OK, then, off to AEV!
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: stlaser on December 28, 2017, 10:33:22 AM
I figured after that last guy the army would have the T crew covered.....
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: Flyin6 on December 28, 2017, 10:40:46 AM
I think they make stiffening tubes that go inside the axle housing.  Slide out the shafts, slide in the axle stiffener and reinstall the shafts.


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They make weld in tubes (internal) using plug welds for front as well as outer reinforcement tube weld on. The inner c’s bend too & they have gusset kits. It’s all just a bandaid, not that HH6 will probably bend any of it pounding pavement or a muddy dirt track to the hide. Not sure about rear upgrades as I don’t think they are as weak being non steer axle.
Well this jeep has one of several courses laid out in front of it

I have this other thing working, and if I ever take a salary from that, I plan to upgrade momma into a Mercedes SUV

If that happens I'll likely give the jeep to preranger number old. That will press him into forced labor carting preranger back and forth from football or wrestling practice and get the both ov them to youth group on Wednesdays without stressin' papa (Me).

If we decide to just kit the prerangers out with old chevy trucks, then we will turn the jeep into a wild lookin trail rig. Soft top, half/no doors and possibly that Cummins diesel swap engine. Of course I'll can those spindly axles and slide in a D60 front and a 14 bolt out back, some 35's or 37's and call it a day. Keep it down farm side and drive it around down there barefooted. SHould fit in as one of the locals pretty well.

If the jeep lets either of us down, then I'll park it on the range and shoot at it for the next year or so until I shred it...give it a proper warriors death. (Remember, once, a long time ago, those things carried honorable men of war about shashin' up a couple continents and bad people who made the mistake of messin' with us!)
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: Flyin6 on December 28, 2017, 10:41:28 AM
I figured after that last guy the army would have the T crew covered.....
As much as I HATE to admit it, you're probably right!
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: Flyin6 on December 28, 2017, 12:03:56 PM
Tate, Thanks for the technical advice. I went off and read about the tuners, and in particuliar how one needs to recalibrate the transmission to get shift points mo-betterer.

So, after looking at the AEV module which has a funky kind of DIP switch setup for each input, I went with the SuperChips flash cal.

I won't be going for more power from that well pump of an engine, but instead focusing on getting the trans and a host of other things back to normal. Perhaps I can even build in a bit more utility. I noticed it has some features allowing customization of the E-Locker thing which might help momma with snowing drivin'

Danke to the oracle of gear things (OGT)
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: EL TATE on December 28, 2017, 12:06:38 PM
Let me know how the Superchips works out for you. I like to have more referral resources at my disposal. AEV has been my go to due to their JK specific nature, but superchips has been a staple for all other things programmer related for years.
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: Flyin6 on December 28, 2017, 12:41:38 PM
Let me know how the Superchips works out for you. I like to have more referral resources at my disposal. AEV has been my go to due to their JK specific nature, but superchips has been a staple for all other things programmer related for years.
Copy that, Wilco.

Superchips has a 2.25" color screen which you toggle through like the Diablo and others I have used over the years. If you watch the vid on the AEV programmer, the guy is using a knife point to move these really small dip switches. Now put that in the context of someone without perfect eyesight and I think you have the recipe for big trouble.

Super Chips avoids all that mess in my view
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: cruizng on December 28, 2017, 03:29:34 PM
You did just get your fingers and don't want to be stabbing them.  :popcorn:
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: stlaser on December 28, 2017, 03:35:10 PM
Let me know how the Superchips works out for you. I like to have more referral resources at my disposal. AEV has been my go to due to their JK specific nature, but superchips has been a staple for all other things programmer related for years.
Copy that, Wilco.

Superchips has a 2.25" color screen which you toggle through like the Diablo and others I have used over the years. If you watch the vid on the AEV programmer, the guy is using a knife point to move these really small dip switches. Now put that in the context of someone without perfect eyesight and I think you have the recipe for big trouble.

Super Chips avoids all that mess in my view

Keep us updated on this superchips unit, I'm going to need to do something this year when the larger rubber gets installed. The motor could use a tweak or two too.
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: wyorunner on December 28, 2017, 06:28:11 PM
Chief, just got an email from Cummins, the 2.8 has free shipping through the end of the year!!! which as the subject states “FREE SHIPPING ENDS IN THREE DAYS”


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Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: Nate on December 28, 2017, 06:40:32 PM
Chief, just got an email from Cummins, the 2.8 has free shipping through the end of the year!!! which as the subject states “FREE SHIPPING ENDS IN THREE DAYS”


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stop encouraging him to ruin HH6 ride..................
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: wyorunner on December 28, 2017, 06:42:56 PM
Chief, just got an email from Cummins, the 2.8 has free shipping through the end of the year!!! which as the subject states “FREE SHIPPING ENDS IN THREE DAYS”


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stop encouraging him to ruin HH6 ride..................

LOL! Wouldn’t it be an improvement? Considering from what I read around her seems like the original JK motor is about as good as a boat anchor..........
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: JR on December 28, 2017, 07:08:39 PM
I saw a weld on for the rear axle tubes, but on the outside.

Now HH needs more power first.
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: TexasRedNeck on December 28, 2017, 07:48:07 PM
The 4bt would get 1/2 way installed and then it would get pushed into that black hole of a garage to collect space dust


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Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: Flyin6 on December 28, 2017, 10:29:10 PM
I feel like I'm in a movie, "The Return of the Tangent People!"
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: stlaser on December 28, 2017, 10:47:23 PM
I feel like I'm in a movie, "The Return of the Tangent People!"

That sounds more like an episode of the twilight zone......
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: cudakidd53 on December 29, 2017, 09:12:19 AM
I feel like I'm in a movie, "The Return of the Tangent People!" "Ground Hogs Day"
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: Flyin6 on January 02, 2018, 07:03:20 PM
The programmer came in today
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: Flyin6 on January 02, 2018, 07:05:35 PM
First up was to register the product and update it from the SuperChips web site

Next was to take the pre-ranger to wrestling practice, so no updating of the heep just yet

It creates a nice little downloader on your desktop from which to grab and transfer updates
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: JR on January 02, 2018, 09:05:55 PM
teaser
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: Flyin6 on January 02, 2018, 10:19:19 PM
Loaded the adjusted tune

and

It works

Thanks, Tate for suggesting this in the first place (It was you, right??)

SHift points are where they should be which makes good use of the very little power this thing has
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: EL TATE on January 03, 2018, 10:56:11 AM
Glad to hear Don, and looks like it was pretty easy to use as well?
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: Flyin6 on January 03, 2018, 11:04:17 AM
Glad to hear Don, and looks like it was pretty easy to use as well?
Couple of selections, Tate, then "OK", wait and its all done

THanks for the tip

Now for a confession

We both hate those tires :-(

She tells me she wanted a more "Manley look" but is OK with the eyelash thing.

I mean, you seen my lady? Definitely a girly girl. A modelling agency chased after her once. That being said, she can easily pull off the "Girly" thing, but I have noticed that ladies like that often like to wear our burly clothes, drive our trucks, cruise around on tractors and other manly things like that

My first inclinition was to get the BFG AT's, but I was holding the budget line pretty close this year. Had that spendy "50th" in Nov, a wedding, a birth of another grandson, and so forth. (Read: Spendy!!! as in $$,$$$$.$$)

Wish I would have followed my gut instead of just the full street compromise.

Well, when I get rich in a few months (or years, or decades) I'll donate those to someone in need and hook that GJ right up

Keeping in mind it needs a diesel, a D60 and a 14 bolt and 8 lugs...
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: EL TATE on January 03, 2018, 11:30:33 AM
And there it is. The good news is you've both come to admit that you have a problem which is the first step. Jeep-itis is highly infectious, costly, and incurable. Good luck to you sir.
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: Flyin6 on January 03, 2018, 12:29:20 PM
And there it is. The good news is you've both come to admit that you have a problem which is the first step. Jeep-itis is highly infectious, costly, and incurable. Good luck to you sir.
Hopefully it will get stolen, burn up, sink in some shallow mud hole or similar and I'll be done with the thing. Build here an early Bob-tail Bronco, Scout, K5, D-90, or similar and forget we ever compromised to owning this girly jeep!
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: Flyin6 on January 03, 2018, 12:30:39 PM
Nothing really to show of the programming except some screen shots
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: Flyin6 on January 03, 2018, 12:31:59 PM
^^^ Hot Rodding these days!

What a joke!

Indicative of what happened to men
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: Flyin6 on January 03, 2018, 12:39:35 PM
These days modifying your intake amounts to taking off the air filter and a couple air pipes...

It used to mean doing some real wrenching. Removing a cast iron or inefficient aluminum design and replacing with a new Edelbrock piece. Getting coolant spilled everywhere, scraping gaskets, torquing real bolts.

I recently noted that the wrists of these latest "pretty men" could be severely damaged (Slight pain the next morning) by torquing bolts over 25 ft lbs. I heard the severe soreness caused several of these FM (Feminine men) or girly men (GM) to miss the hole in their ears with the stud (Which they are not, actually more like drones in a bee hive) when putting in their earrings, causing a slight abrasion, or in severe cases an actual puncture!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Devastating, I know!

In one case there was a drop of blood seen which caused the unsuspecting and suffering GM to faint, falling on his man-bun and wrinkling that all up.

Guys these days...Just give me my dogs and bypass, please!
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: Flyin6 on January 03, 2018, 12:40:22 PM
OK, I'm done...Off to buy some pressure treated 6 X 4's
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: stlaser on January 03, 2018, 02:49:46 PM
I came to this thread to check the tech update, must have missed that somewhere........... :facepalm:
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: Flyin6 on January 03, 2018, 08:19:17 PM
Yea, I was into complain' this morgan, better now! ;-))
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: Flyin6 on September 28, 2018, 08:06:50 PM
Strange thing happened.

My wife complained that the brakes were grinding. So I pulled the front wheels off and discovered that at 71,000 miles on the odo the front pads looked like new...WHAT???

Then I pulled the rear wheels and darn, the pads were gone. Both solid rotors were destroyed and so were the pads.

So I installed new OEM pads and rotors, bled the brake lines and called that done.

While I was at it, I rotated the tires and changed her oil with a fresh pour of Mobil 1

I noted that the thing has been netting her 18.0 mpg.

Maybe I'll do something with this girly jeep sometime...???
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: dave945 on September 28, 2018, 09:56:01 PM
Does she slide into parking spaces backwards and slam on the brakes?  Sounds like they brakes are not proportioned right to me. 


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Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: KensAuto on September 29, 2018, 01:42:28 AM
Pretty typical for Mopar nowadays. I'm seeing a lot of the same, even other brands. Chevy trucks also...basically 2 sets of rears to every one set of fronts.

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Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: TexasRedNeck on September 29, 2018, 08:50:50 AM
That’s bass ackwards


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Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: Flyin6 on September 29, 2018, 09:13:56 AM
Pretty typical for Mopar nowadays. I'm seeing a lot of the same, even other brands. Chevy trucks also...basically 2 sets of rears to every one set of fronts.

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OK, that's new on me.

I am used to looking at the rear brakes when I change the pads on the front the second time.
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: KensAuto on September 29, 2018, 10:28:46 AM
Yeah, that's the way it used to be.

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Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: Bigdave_185 on September 29, 2018, 05:24:50 PM
Ken needs to elaborate?   Tec hasn’t changed? Physics still say the front brakes need the stopping weight


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Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: stlaser on September 29, 2018, 07:42:35 PM
Ken needs to elaborate?   Tec hasn’t changed? Physics still say the front brakes need the stopping weight


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What’s to elaborate? It’s kinda the same theory as using your foot brake on your dirt bike. It would appear the manufacturers are proportioning them heavier to the rear. My thinking though it’s more the computer and stability control doing this....
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: Flyin6 on September 29, 2018, 08:21:37 PM
Ken needs to elaborate?   Tec hasn’t changed? Physics still say the front brakes need the stopping weight


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What’s to elaborate? It’s kinda the same theory as using your foot brake on your dirt bike. It would appear the manufacturers are proportioning them heavier to the rear. My thinking though it’s more the computer and stability control doing this....
And

The rear pads are tiny as compared to the fronts, maybe half the surface area. Also the rear rotors are solid and skinny, about 1/2" thick whereas the front brakes are still ventilated discs with much larger calipers.

I think the rears are just designed not to be able to stop very much...???
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: Bigdave_185 on September 29, 2018, 09:27:09 PM
Can you folks design a logical reason to why they would manufacture a change after some 20 or so years of doing things the same way.  Wife’s traverse is 130k miles original brakes and after reading this post I looked.  Hers are wearing the other direction. Fronts need to be replaced in a few 1000 miles backs look almost new


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Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: stlaser on September 29, 2018, 09:31:11 PM
Dave, my guess is the combination small rear pads and crappy rotor on the Jeep. Add in the computer controlled stability control on this jeeps (senses wheel spin & applies rear brakes because it’s in 2 wheel drive most of the time) then add in the fact the rear of a jk weighs nada and every time you turn a corner and gun it the wheels slip as one corner rear wheel lifts (very noticeable when you add a grizzly locker btw) so there you have it.
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: Bigdave_185 on September 29, 2018, 10:40:22 PM
I hadn’t thought of the stability control kicking on and off braking the vehicle while turning corners because of th slipping.   Don. Show the wife how to turn that button off and see how the next 60k miles go.   


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Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: stlaser on September 29, 2018, 10:41:41 PM
I hadn’t thought of the stability control kicking on and off braking the vehicle while turning corners because of th slipping.   Don. Show the wife how to turn that button off and see how the next 60k miles go.   


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Nada, turning it off is joke. You can’t disable it in 2wd
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: Bigdave_185 on September 29, 2018, 11:54:26 PM
You mean to tell me there isn’t an override like holding the button down? I think GM trucks you have to hold it down for four seconds and say GM is the best three times within six seconds.


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Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: stlaser on September 30, 2018, 12:06:47 AM
There is a button but in two wheel drive it does not completely turn off ever. There are mods to disable it though.
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: KensAuto on September 30, 2018, 02:19:24 AM
Short version is the older ones, pre-4wabs, had to go light on the rear brake pressure to prevent lockup...like 80/20...20% stopping in the rear. They controlled actual hydraulic pressure to attain the set percentage. Now they push the limit of the rears as much as possible, using the abs for electronic proportioning. Meaning, same amount of hydraulic pressure to all wheels, until skidding.  Notice that the newer cars don't nose dive as much as previous versions?
Funny thing is, they can't make the rears larger because then they would be prone to over braking, since they all have the same pressure applied.
Ok, maybe it wasn't the short version

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Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: Bob Smith on September 30, 2018, 12:08:18 PM
Thanks for the explanation Ken. But why weren't you sleeping at 11:19PM instead of explaining why rear brakes wear faster.
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: KensAuto on September 30, 2018, 02:00:27 PM
That's the best time for me to put thoughts "on paper" ... when I'm completely beat down. Lol



Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: EL TATE on October 01, 2018, 10:18:45 AM
I remember when this started to be more common on passenger cars back in the old les schwab days. usually RR would waste away the fastest, (hard cornering lefts are more common, making the outside rear wheel the one that gets the brake pressure to limit slippage). we'd see a lot of GM and mopars, Grand Ams and Intrepid and stratus cars with the same issues. 1/2 ton ram pickups were really bad and the customer wouldn't even notice until the ABS light came on and we'd find rivets cutting through the rotors. Shawn is right, to completely shut it off you'd need to mod it with a physical switch interrupting the signal.
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: Flyin6 on November 17, 2019, 08:06:01 PM
I had to install new headlights into the GJ

I chose the Axion LED total assembly units.

The install was a simple R&R plug and play affair
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: Camaroz2866 on November 22, 2019, 05:44:49 PM
Well congrats, wish I would of known, I just built one a while back. I’m very familiar with the geometry and do’s and don’t.  Lmk if you have want recommendations or have questions
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: Camaroz2866 on November 22, 2019, 05:56:40 PM
Ken needs to elaborate?   Tec hasn’t changed? Physics still say the front brakes need the stopping weight


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What’s to elaborate? It’s kinda the same theory as using your foot brake on your dirt bike. It would appear the manufacturers are proportioning them heavier to the rear. My thinking though it’s more the computer and stability control doing this....
And

The rear pads are tiny as compared to the fronts, maybe half the surface area. Also the rear rotors are solid and skinny, about 1/2" thick whereas the front brakes are still ventilated discs with much larger calipers.

I think the rears are just designed not to be able to stop very much...???



Mopar bbk. Don’t look at anything else. It’s complete with  bigger master cyl, booster, rotors, calipers, pads.

I suggest ditching the factory pads for power stop believe it’s z series but I’ll have to look( it’s the ones for towing).   

This setup stoped and held off-road mine with 40”s with plenty of confidence.
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: Camaroz2866 on November 22, 2019, 06:00:42 PM
These days modifying your intake amounts to taking off the air filter and a couple air pipes...

It used to mean doing some real wrenching. Removing a cast iron or inefficient aluminum design and replacing with a new Edelbrock piece. Getting coolant spilled everywhere, scraping gaskets, torquing real bolts.

I recently noted that the wrists of these latest "pretty men" could be severely damaged (Slight pain the next morning) by torquing bolts over 25 ft lbs. I heard the severe soreness caused several of these FM (Feminine men) or girly men (GM) to miss the hole in their ears with the stud (Which they are not, actually more like drones in a bee hive) when putting in their earrings, causing a slight abrasion, or in severe cases an actual puncture!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Devastating, I know!

In one case there was a drop of blood seen which caused the unsuspecting and suffering GM to faint, falling on his man-bun and wrinkling that all up.

Guys these days...Just give me my dogs and bypass, please!


Don’t waste the money on a intake setup. It does nothing but makes noise on the Jeep. The factory box with a upgraded filter is all you need. If you want more power or mpg put a Sprintex supercharger on it. You won’t regret it.
Title: Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
Post by: Flyin6 on November 22, 2019, 08:43:53 PM
I don't really like the thing all that much,

But should she get done with it, and I get to wrenchin' on it, I imagine it would restart life with a proper lift, and a 6.2 LS motor thumpin' under the hood
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