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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #201 on: February 07, 2019, 04:57:45 PM »
DON HAVE YOU TRIED BRIGHTON SPRING IN WALTON?

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« Reply #202 on: February 07, 2019, 05:38:11 PM »
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #203 on: February 07, 2019, 08:40:08 PM »
Good news Don. Thanks for the update.


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« Reply #204 on: February 07, 2019, 09:10:16 PM »
Thanks for the update Don. Keeping her in our prayers.


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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #205 on: February 07, 2019, 09:16:36 PM »
Living in the remote north hoping Ken doesn’t bring H up here any time soon…..

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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #206 on: February 07, 2019, 09:20:11 PM »
I don’t lick windows.  Well maybe sometimes. You never know with young people


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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #207 on: February 07, 2019, 10:04:49 PM »
Next up bullet proof glass ( we have a company in Ogden that mods these for that)  turret on top and a tactopper mod right?


Thanks for the update on the boss lady.  Glad to hear she has someone in the medical side who is interested and not just dismissing things like so many do.


As you road map out this trip with dates and so forth, do you have some things you want to see or do specifically as you go to each state?  Lots of these states surrounding me have more national parks than the rest of the country and a whole lot of neat things to see!!

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Actually a big objective of this trip is to meet a bunch of youses.

So as I get closer, I'll publish the route. Yes, we will stop and see something interesting every day. The worlds biggest ball of string, Cadillac ranch, Norm and other curiosities. Mostly I would like to grab a shot of the burb parked beside youses rides and get some smilin' grill shots whilst toastin' some quoffee.

Not sure if I visitin' any Daves' yet...Thinkin' on that one ;-))
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #208 on: February 07, 2019, 10:05:24 PM »
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That boy doesn't look any better upside down than he does upright! Can I get an A-men? :tongue: :beercheers:
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #209 on: February 07, 2019, 10:08:04 PM »
DON HAVE YOU TRIED BRIGHTON SPRING IN WALTON?
Have not Larry, but I will. Just got a quote from Scott at Deaver Springs for $900 and 6 weeks out. I responded, "Respectfully that price is ridiculous. I do however recognize that the laws regulations and taxes from that crazy state represent the bulk of the price. I would suggest you consider moving out of that place to somewhere where you can flourish."
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #210 on: February 07, 2019, 10:12:29 PM »
So another busy day.

Ordered the BDS suspension, Cognito UCA's, JR's 8.1L injectors, 4.88 gears for the front and a Dura-Grip LS diff for the D80 from Tate. That all put a nice dent in the bank account!
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #211 on: February 07, 2019, 10:15:51 PM »
You can't tell but the transmission is now bolted to the engine block once again
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #212 on: February 07, 2019, 10:17:31 PM »
Torque converter reattached, bottom cover installed, starter bolted up, connections below reattached
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #213 on: February 07, 2019, 10:19:01 PM »
Starting to reattach the front accessories
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #214 on: February 07, 2019, 10:23:30 PM »
At this point it is just a grind. You just keep pecking away at it and at some point it will be largely assembled, I hope.

However in true Oil-Change spirit, I will have to drop the front diff to install the 4.88's and while I have it out of there, might as well bolt up the lift kit crossmembers. Since I'm getting into that, might as well strip all the suspension off each side up front...And so it goes as this caterpillar is spinnin' a cocoon hopefully to reappear in time to drive it a bit before launching...
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #215 on: February 07, 2019, 11:04:28 PM »
I have new timken bearing units sitting here to. Probably a little $$ to send though.

Doing the tierod sleeve's and ptiman too? Good time while its right there.

Does the transfer case hang down like ours do? I would address that, I need to but waiting to pull the tcase.
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #216 on: February 08, 2019, 09:08:17 AM »
I have new timken bearing units sitting here to. Probably a little $$ to send though.

Doing the tierod sleeve's and ptiman too? Good time while its right there.

Does the transfer case hang down like ours do? I would address that, I need to but waiting to pull the tcase.
JR...Timken bearings?? Wheel unit bearings? I was just going to order a set of Moog bearings. PM me a price bro...

Not a tie rod sleeve, but an entire HD tie rod. Pitman arm too

Transfer case/trans configuration looks about like what I have on the D-Max truck. And I'll be pulling that too along the way...

Another thought. So the rear axle is going to now sit 5" lower than it does now. I have a new 1 1/2 ton truck driveshaft sitting here. Thinking about making a new driveshaft for the burb out of it but with a double cardan in the front. Reason is the lift/angle and the shorter wheelbase of the Burb over the trucks...
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #217 on: February 08, 2019, 09:58:42 AM »
DON HAVE YOU TRIED BRIGHTON SPRING IN WALTON?
Have not Larry, but I will. Just got a quote from Scott at Deaver Springs for $900 and 6 weeks out. I responded, "Respectfully that price is ridiculous. I do however recognize that the laws regulations and taxes from that crazy state represent the bulk of the price. I would suggest you consider moving out of that place to somewhere where you can flourish."
Larry, So, to follow up. Brighton Spring does not bend nor make new springs, They only add or replace individual leaves.
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #218 on: February 08, 2019, 10:08:13 AM »
Is your wheel base really shorter than a 3/4 crew shirt bed truck?

Do you have the two piece drive shaft now?

The timkin bearing are pretty nice.

Are all of these HD truck parts cross directly over to your suburban?




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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #219 on: February 08, 2019, 10:38:18 AM »
Is your wheel base really shorter than a 3/4 crew shirt bed truck?

I think the Burb is about the length of a single cab short box maybe a single cab long box


Do you have the two piece drive shaft now?

No, one piece

The timkin bearing are pretty nice.

Not liking the Moog hugh... Well, the Timkens are about the best name out there

Are all of these HD truck parts cross directly over to your suburban?

No, Burb is a bit of a hybrid. Truck leaves are 64", Burb are 60". Drive shafts are different length. Burb 2500 is like a 2500 light duty, not a HD. Witness the 14 bolt semi floater in lieu of a FF axle.




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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #220 on: February 08, 2019, 10:52:11 AM »
ON RICHARDS NEW SERVICE TRUCK THEY ADDED SPRINGS TO LEVEL THE ONE SIDE OF THE TRUCK, HIS TOOLS WEIGHED SO MUCH THAT THE TRUCK HAD A 4" LEAN, ALL LEVEL NOW, I JUST THOUGHT EXTRA SPRINGS WOULD BE BETTER THAN BLOCKS. SORRY

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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #221 on: February 08, 2019, 10:53:47 AM »
Google shows 130 for your Burban and 143-157 ish pending bed and cab configuration

Are you going to put the HD tire rods to match your upper control arms?




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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #222 on: February 08, 2019, 11:01:09 AM »
Here we go this is what ya need Don

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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #223 on: February 08, 2019, 01:52:07 PM »
Stock bearings(if goodintite)=better than new timkens/moog off the shelf.
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #224 on: February 08, 2019, 02:12:00 PM »
Google shows 130 for your Burban and 143-157 ish pending bed and cab configuration

Are you going to put the HD tire rods to match your upper control arms?




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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #225 on: February 08, 2019, 02:16:09 PM »
Stock bearings(if goodintite)=better than new timkens/moog off the shelf.
But, man, hard not to renew. I'd be trusting those things for a way long trip where I could scarcely work on the truck. Have to find a shop like yours...!
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #226 on: February 08, 2019, 02:35:46 PM »
Stock bearings(if goodintite)=better than new timkens/moog off the shelf.
But, man, hard not to renew. I'd be trusting those things for a way long trip where I could scarcely work on the truck. Have to find a shop like yours...!

Technically I think most of us guys along your route have tools to swap them out....
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« Reply #227 on: February 08, 2019, 02:54:07 PM »
I have a pipe wrench and "maybe" two!! I also have a monkey wrench also  :grin:

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« Reply #228 on: February 08, 2019, 03:00:50 PM »
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #229 on: February 08, 2019, 05:42:35 PM »
I saw that welderup build.  Super sweet. 4 turbos.


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« Reply #230 on: February 08, 2019, 05:45:50 PM »
I saw that welderup build.  Super sweet. 4 turbos.


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« Reply #231 on: February 08, 2019, 05:54:26 PM »
Doubt don could find the 2 stroke detroit in time for the build....
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #232 on: February 08, 2019, 07:39:30 PM »
I have a pipe wrench and "maybe" two!! I also have a monkey wrench also  :grin:
I'm sure you have a host of interesting tools!
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« Reply #233 on: February 08, 2019, 07:45:07 PM »
I saw that welderup build.  Super sweet. 4 turbos.


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Don’t give the big guy any more ideas guys.
He’s on a tight timeline for this ever growing “oil change”.

Am I ever!

Which causes me to press the "Place Order" button about every night.

Just ordered those super steer tie rod/baseball bat things. Scored a big truck driveshaft to have modded to play with the Dana 80.

Tate sent me all the gears n' things to make the front and the back play with each other and the backside get some traction, that's all sitting here now.

Have tracking on the other suspension stuff, and Deaver just wrote me back, so I'm not sure if perhaps they may be back in play. Will order the new larger front sway bar tomorrow, just so as I tear something off, something is sitting there to throw, Sorry, Norm, meant to say, Toss back on.

I'm farming some stuff out and taking more of the role of a project manager. My goal at the moment is get to the point I can drive it to start sorting and then move on to bumper building.
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #234 on: February 08, 2019, 08:47:17 PM »
Chief, where did you source your big truck drive shaft? I’d like to do a single piece shaft instead of the two piece carrier bearing I have.

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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #235 on: February 09, 2019, 10:17:06 AM »
My goal at the moment is get to the point I can drive it to start sorting and then move on to bumper building.

It was able to be driven after you finished the motor. Everything that's been bought and planned on buying, planned on upgrading or adding has only pushed your timeline further off where you originally wanted it. It's been mentioned before run it how it is for your trip, have fun and enjoy yourself, and when you come back you'll have a better idea of where you want to upgrade/change. I doubt anyone you stop and visit will deny you and the youngins a cup of coffee and some company if the Burb isn't lifted with a LSD, offroad tires and a 1 piece driveshaft new injectors.... you get my point.

Remember just keep it simple until you see what NEEDS to be done vs what you WANT to be done. Once you got that done then you can go hogwild.


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So, Bobby...being the calculating trained warrior NCO that you are.  Take the appropriate action, Execute!
your standard grunt level CQB is just putting rounds and rounds on scary stuff till it stops scaring you!

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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #236 on: February 09, 2019, 10:24:49 AM »
Chief, where did you source your big truck drive shaft? I’d like to do a single piece shaft instead of the two piece carrier bearing I have.

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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #237 on: February 09, 2019, 10:26:11 AM »
Preach it Bobby!!
The way it is, it's going to be one heck of a shake down trip. The more a guy touches, the better the odds of........success?...no, not really.




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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #238 on: February 09, 2019, 10:28:19 AM »
My goal at the moment is get to the point I can drive it to start sorting and then move on to bumper building.

It was able to be driven after you finished the motor. Everything that's been bought and planned on buying, planned on upgrading or adding has only pushed your timeline further off where you originally wanted it. It's been mentioned before run it how it is for your trip, have fun and enjoy yourself, and when you come back you'll have a better idea of where you want to upgrade/change. I doubt anyone you stop and visit will deny you and the youngins a cup of coffee and some company if the Burb isn't lifted with a LSD, offroad tires and a 1 piece driveshaft new injectors.... you get my point.

Remember just keep it simple until you see what NEEDS to be done vs what you WANT to be done. Once you got that done then you can go hogwild.


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It wasn't ready as it was.

Springs have settled enough to allow it to ride on and flatten the rubber bumpers. The engine had like no power, not like I'm used to. Suspension not driveline would support where I plan on taking it. And it has spent the majority of its life parked. It needs all those rubber parts gone through, new shocks, and who knows what. The body and interior is great, but while I'm doing all that routine stuff, it makes good sense to go a step or two further and get it done to a good point where it's very capable and a cool fun vehicle to sport around in.

It will work out, you'll see.
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #239 on: February 09, 2019, 10:38:41 AM »
It wasn't ready as it was.

Springs have settled enough to allow it to ride on and flatten the rubber bumpers. The engine had like no power, not like I'm used to. Suspension not driveline would support where I plan on taking it. And it has spent the majority of its life parked. It needs all those rubber parts gone through, new shocks, and who knows what. The body and interior is great, but while I'm doing all that routine stuff, it makes good sense to go a step or two further and get it done to a good point where it's very capable and a cool fun vehicle to sport around in.

It will work out, you'll see.

Here's what I see:

Replace the springs, yes heavier duty for the upcoming bumpers and etc.

The engine probably had the power, but you've been driving a 6.6 Duramax as a daily so naturally there's a difference in the power you'll feel. I get it as a guy I want immediate power when I hit the go pedal, but you'll adapt to the difference.


Stock shocks aren't expensive, minor upgrades for the suspension and bushing and etc also aren't going to hit your account as hard.

Remember work begets work, well work begets work beget you getting burnt out on a project and having to take a break from said project and the timeline slipping further. I'm not telling you how to spend your own time and money, merely suggesting that you not attempt to get it all done of what you think you want done whereas stuff you should do and get done, are completed knocked off the list and you have a reliable driver for your trip, without going overboard and causing headaches.
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So, Bobby...being the calculating trained warrior NCO that you are.  Take the appropriate action, Execute!
your standard grunt level CQB is just putting rounds and rounds on scary stuff till it stops scaring you!

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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #240 on: February 09, 2019, 11:05:43 AM »
Chief, where did you source your big truck drive shaft? I’d like to do a single piece shaft instead of the two piece carrier bearing I have.

Cincy Driveline stocks cores for various builds

I was hoping you were going to say some kind of junk yard I might be able to find of similar flavor out here.  The driveline shop I went to in Tucson can build anything a person wants, but of course that’s more expensive than modifying one that would work. He rebuilt the one that’s in the truck now, great shop.

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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #241 on: February 09, 2019, 12:07:27 PM »
It wasn't ready as it was.

Springs have settled enough to allow it to ride on and flatten the rubber bumpers. The engine had like no power, not like I'm used to. Suspension not driveline would support where I plan on taking it. And it has spent the majority of its life parked. It needs all those rubber parts gone through, new shocks, and who knows what. The body and interior is great, but while I'm doing all that routine stuff, it makes good sense to go a step or two further and get it done to a good point where it's very capable and a cool fun vehicle to sport around in.

It will work out, you'll see.

Here's what I see:

Replace the springs, yes heavier duty for the upcoming bumpers and etc.

The engine probably had the power, but you've been driving a 6.6 Duramax as a daily so naturally there's a difference in the power you'll feel. I get it as a guy I want immediate power when I hit the go pedal, but you'll adapt to the difference.


Stock shocks aren't expensive, minor upgrades for the suspension and bushing and etc also aren't going to hit your account as hard.

Remember work begets work, well work begets work beget you getting burnt out on a project and having to take a break from said project and the timeline slipping further. I'm not telling you how to spend your own time and money, merely suggesting that you not attempt to get it all done of what you think you want done whereas stuff you should do and get done, are completed knocked off the list and you have a reliable driver for your trip, without going overboard and causing headaches.

Love ya man!

But the Warrant Officer has a plan, and the plan will work. Watch and hopefully you'll be pleasantly surprised at how just subbing out some work and buying scads of new parts, then pullin' and replacin' can work.

Now to Ken's point of sorting it all out, well, yea, that could prove to be the challenge. But hey, I'd never have volunteered for the 160th if I didn't believe in taking risks if they produce huge payoffs

Who dares, wins!
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #242 on: February 09, 2019, 12:10:43 PM »
Just ordered the Hellwig front sway bar and front brakes.
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #243 on: February 09, 2019, 01:04:21 PM »
I hear a bottle of motor oil opening.......


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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #244 on: February 09, 2019, 02:54:54 PM »
You going to clean the pickup out and drive it West?

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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #245 on: February 09, 2019, 03:16:58 PM »
I hear a bottle of motor oil opening.......


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No Charles, a truckload of oil being opened...
I just don't want to wind up missing a digit or limb.  I can sometimes get in a hurry to get results.
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« Reply #246 on: February 09, 2019, 03:33:42 PM »
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That got opened the min that massive read axle got purchased,   I think It’s going to climb hells gate in Moab if I read right on the list


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« Reply #247 on: February 09, 2019, 06:51:13 PM »
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Stop it, just stop it!
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #248 on: February 09, 2019, 06:54:33 PM »
You guys are just so funny!

OK, I kicked some serious butt today on reassembly of the thing

So first up was the balancer reinstallation. I heated it to 220 for about 45 min, and yessir it was pretty hot to the touch. Then I seasoned it with some Italian extra virgin assembly lube then using my impact the darned thing went right on and stopped where it should have. That was a non event
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #249 on: February 09, 2019, 07:14:09 PM »
But it’s not painted grey?


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