Topic: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 4

[Bigdave_185]

Did you see a price tag on that tex?

$600k-7^
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[stlaser]

Sell it Don.

Get one of these.  Apparently made in the same neighborhood as The Hippy lives in


https://earthroamer.com/lti-2/


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Built 1/4 mile from my shop, they actually rent spaces in the facility where my shop is and charge clients for storage. Owner is not somebody I would associate with, however they have some pretty talented guys who build these they are like the rest of us around here.

[TexasRedNeck]

Did you see a price tag on that tex?

$600k-7^
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I did. They are obviously smoking the local whacky tobaccy. That’s 500k to drop a camper on the back of a Furd

That price tag is getting close to serious motor coach territory.


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[stlaser]

The smaller ones I get it, the big ones are so heavy and cumbersome you can’t really take them anywhere I want to go.

[Flyin6]

Sell it Don.

Get one of these.  Apparently made in the same neighborhood as The Hippy lives in


https://earthroamer.com/lti-2/


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Look at the departure angle on that thing...what 3 degrees???

Like it though. but the $650,000-$700,000 is a bit much

[dave945]

Sell it Don.

Get one of these.  Apparently made in the same neighborhood as The Hippy lives in


https://earthroamer.com/lti-2/


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Look at the departure angle on that thing...what 3 degrees???

Like it though. but the $650,000-$700,000 is a bit much

Unfortunately, for $700,000, it wouldn’t even fit half the family. Guess I’ll have to spend $700k and get a school bus retrofitted for 4wd and defensive capabilities. 


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[Flyin6]

OK, word from John this morning.

He owns SS Transmissions in Alexandria, KY.

HE said that the transfer case was assembled correctly, and that it is staying locked in 4WD

I am thinking it always was, as in even when I purchased it. He said the insides were perfect and the clutches looked like new.

He did find a C-Clip "Wavy-spring" thing that he suspects may have settled some. If it were working, then the clutch pack would remain forced out of the "cogs" in the case and the thing would spin freely (2WD)

But it is allowing the clutch drum to just settle into the case keeping the whole thing engaged in 4WD. So hunt is on for another wavy-spring-C-Clip.

Anyone ever heard of such a thing in a NP246 case?

[EL TATE]

OK, word from John this morning.

He owns SS Transmissions in Alexandria, KY.

HE said that the transfer case was assembled correctly, and that it is staying locked in 4WD

I am thinking it always was, as in even when I purchased it. He said the insides were perfect and the clutches looked like new.

He did find a C-Clip "Wavy-spring" thing that he suspects may have settled some. If it were working, then the clutch pack would remain forced out of the "cogs" in the case and the thing would spin freely (2WD)

But it is allowing the clutch drum to just settle into the case keeping the whole thing engaged in 4WD. So hunt is on for another wavy-spring-C-Clip.

Anyone ever heard of such a thing in a NP246 case?

4l60 or 4l80 trans on this pig? find the image that matches your description and I'll see if I have it or where you can get it.

[Flyin6]

OK, word from John this morning.

He owns SS Transmissions in Alexandria, KY.

HE said that the transfer case was assembled correctly, and that it is staying locked in 4WD

I am thinking it always was, as in even when I purchased it. He said the insides were perfect and the clutches looked like new.

He did find a C-Clip "Wavy-spring" thing that he suspects may have settled some. If it were working, then the clutch pack would remain forced out of the "cogs" in the case and the thing would spin freely (2WD)

But it is allowing the clutch drum to just settle into the case keeping the whole thing engaged in 4WD. So hunt is on for another wavy-spring-C-Clip.

Anyone ever heard of such a thing in a NP246 case?

4l60 or 4l80 trans on this pig? find the image that matches your description and I'll see if I have it or where you can get it.

4L80E

But

Not a transmission part, a transfer case wavy clip thing-ah-ma-gig

[dave945]

OK, word from John this morning.

He owns SS Transmissions in Alexandria, KY.

HE said that the transfer case was assembled correctly, and that it is staying locked in 4WD

I am thinking it always was, as in even when I purchased it. He said the insides were perfect and the clutches looked like new.

He did find a C-Clip "Wavy-spring" thing that he suspects may have settled some. If it were working, then the clutch pack would remain forced out of the "cogs" in the case and the thing would spin freely (2WD)

But it is allowing the clutch drum to just settle into the case keeping the whole thing engaged in 4WD. So hunt is on for another wavy-spring-C-Clip.

Anyone ever heard of such a thing in a NP246 case?

4l60 or 4l80 trans on this pig? find the image that matches your description and I'll see if I have it or where you can get it.

4L80E

But

Not a transmission part, a transfer case wavy clip thing-ah-ma-gig

This part matches Don’s technical description:
21-Pressure plate wavy apply spring


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[Flyin6]

Dave,

Is there a link or pic or part number?

Nothing was attached

Thanks

[Dodge4x48499]

NP246 - 1998-2007 GM

Item #    Description             Application Notes    GM Part#    ZBAG Part#
21.   Pressure plate wavy apply spring    1998-2005       12474071    27746

[Flyin6]

Item #    Description             Application Notes    GM Part#    ZBAG Part#
21.   Pressure plate wavy apply spring    1998-2005       12474071    27746

Danke'

John probably already has the thing and back together, but I'll let him know in the morning.

So any of you ever see a 246 transfer do this before?

[KensAuto]

OK, word from John this morning.

He owns SS Transmissions in Alexandria, KY.

HE said that the transfer case was assembled correctly, and that it is staying locked in 4WD

I am thinking it always was, as in even when I purchased it. He said the insides were perfect and the clutches looked like new.

He did find a C-Clip "Wavy-spring" thing that he suspects may have settled some. If it were working, then the clutch pack would remain forced out of the "cogs" in the case and the thing would spin freely (2WD)

But it is allowing the clutch drum to just settle into the case keeping the whole thing engaged in 4WD. So hunt is on for another wavy-spring-C-Clip.

Anyone ever heard of such a thing in a NP246 case?

4l60 or 4l80 trans on this pig? find the image that matches your description and I'll see if I have it or where you can get it.

4L80E

But

Not a transmission part, a transfer case wavy clip thing-ah-ma-gig

Tate had the tcase diagram...he just wanted to know what transmission it had to verify transfer case. #21 in his diagram.

[Flyin6]

So it is all back together and healed.

But here is the weird part. John checked the parts in my case against parts he had in the shop, and everything in my case was in his words, "Cherry." He thought my T-case looked new, and in the end he did nothing except reassemble and reinstall it.

And

It worked perfectly!

So, he has this theory that it was just very low on fluid and that was causing all the issues. When he drained the fluid, he did not get very much out, so it seems as though when Troy pulled it and installed the new seal, he did not add much fluid, only a couple pints. With the thing full of fluid, it now has no problems.

Man, what a head scratcher!

[swbhobie16]

man.. a ‘fluid change’ that actually HELPED the operation of a vehicle. who knew!

[Bigdave_185]

So.... how does it drive!


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[EL TATE]

OK, word from John this morning.

He owns SS Transmissions in Alexandria, KY.

HE said that the transfer case was assembled correctly, and that it is staying locked in 4WD

I am thinking it always was, as in even when I purchased it. He said the insides were perfect and the clutches looked like new.

He did find a C-Clip "Wavy-spring" thing that he suspects may have settled some. If it were working, then the clutch pack would remain forced out of the "cogs" in the case and the thing would spin freely (2WD)

But it is allowing the clutch drum to just settle into the case keeping the whole thing engaged in 4WD. So hunt is on for another wavy-spring-C-Clip.

Anyone ever heard of such a thing in a NP246 case?

4l60 or 4l80 trans on this pig? find the image that matches your description and I'll see if I have it or where you can get it.

4L80E

But

Not a transmission part, a transfer case wavy clip thing-ah-ma-gig

Tate had the tcase diagram...he just wanted to know what transmission it had to verify transfer case. #21 in his diagram.

Correct Ken. I run into this with the shift motor clocking scenario, AND when my builders shim the clutch packs too tight. lack of fluid would mimic that same scenario for sure. Good to hear it Chief.

[Flyin6]

I picked it up today, and it was in 2WD for the first time. A much different feeling.

It definitely felt more torquey, but there is something going on with the transmission shifting. It shifts way too soon and is easily shifted into OD around 30mph. It never builds any RPM, so I cannot feel the supercharger persee.

Nick said he can adjust those shift points so I'll get it back over to him in a couple of days

[Flyin6]

Still working out the small bugs

It goes back to Nick in a day or so to let him finish the tuning

He did a good job on fitting everything. I like that intake tube powdercoat too!

[Bigdave_185]

So this is your block and lower parts from original motor, he just added upper Harward? Right


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[KensAuto]

So this is your block and lower parts from original motor, he just added upper Harward? Right


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Did you type Harward on purpose?

[rpar86]

Upper Harward... lol

Hardware?

[Bigdave_185]

Nope.  Autocorrect


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[dave945]

I installed some upper Harward on the blazer, but I had to remove it. In a very short time I ran over three cameras, two chainsaws and almost finished a project.

;)


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[Nate]

I installed some upper Harward on the blazer, but I had to remove it. In a very short time I ran over three cameras, two chainsaws and almost finished a project.

;)


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[KensAuto]

I installed some upper Harward on the blazer, but I had to remove it. In a very short time I ran over three cameras, two chainsaws and almost finished a project.

;)


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Ohhh boyyyy

[Flyin6]

All right, one Dave is fired, the other one placed on notice

We'll have a public hearing before banning him too!

And by the way, I have Harward installed all over the place here in ma home

Knuckleheads!

[Bigdave_185]

It was autocorrect


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[cj7ox]

THIS JUST IN! EXTENSIVE INVESTIGATION HAS DETERMINED THAT AN INDIVIDUAL NAMED "HARWARD" IS RESPONSIBLE FOR SABOTAGING ALL "BIG D'S" FAILED PROJECTS BY INSERTING GRAND IDEAS, POOR DESIGNS, OR DEVASTATING GREMLINS. "HARWARD" HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED AS AT FAULT ON THE FOLLOWING PROJECTS: SQUARE D, TAC-TOPPER, AND MULTIPLE HEAVY EQUIPMENT FAILURES BOTH AT THE HOME SHOP AND THE HIDE SITE.
 

[Flyin6]

THIS JUST IN! EXTENSIVE INVESTIGATION HAS DETERMINED THAT AN INDIVIDUAL NAMED "HARWARD" IS RESPONSIBLE FOR SABOTAGING ALL "BIG D'S" FAILED PROJECTS BY INSERTING GRAND IDEAS, POOR DESIGNS, OR DEVASTATING GREMLINS. "HARWARD" HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED AS AT FAULT ON THE FOLLOWING PROJECTS: SQUARE D, TAC-TOPPER, AND MULTIPLE HEAVY EQUIPMENT FAILURES BOTH AT THE HOME SHOP AND THE HIDE SITE.
 

Have you ever experienced the feeling of being rejected?

or fired?

Or banned?

or socially isolated, Real Man style?

Option number last involves a halo to a spot in the pacific 62 miles north of nowhere

where

the concentration of sharks has been verified

[Bigdave_185]

Bluffing lol


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[KensAuto]

Is it still considered isolation if more than 1 Dave goes on this trip?
What about all Daves and multiple Shawns, with the various spellings?

[Bigdave_185]

I am not planning on going on the trip. To many ol guys with guns. Kinda scary if you ask me. 


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[TexasRedNeck]

I’ll bring my banjo, Dave...


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[dave945]

I probably won’t be able to make it this year. I’m pretty sure My wife would shoot me if I tried to leave for too long without taking the kids with me.  BUT...if the .gov sends out some more handout checks, I could pick up a Quigley van and then I’d be right there with you.


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[Bigdave_185]

I probably won’t be able to make it this year. I’m pretty sure My wife would shoot me if I tried to leave for too long without taking the kids with me.  BUT...if the .gov sends out some more handout checks, I could pick up a Quigley van and then I’d be right there with you.


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I don’t have that many kids but I would have a heck of a time building an adventure van.   The 4x4 powerstroke platform big enough to give the burb a run for its money


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[cj7ox]

Have you ever experienced the feeling of being rejected?

or fired?

Or banned?

or socially isolated, Real Man style?

Option number last involves a halo to a spot in the pacific 62 miles north of nowhere

where

the concentration of sharks has been verified

It has been a while. Figured I was due for a firing! LOL!

[Flyin6]

Have you ever experienced the feeling of being rejected?

or fired?

Or banned?

or socially isolated, Real Man style?

Option number last involves a halo to a spot in the pacific 62 miles north of nowhere

where

the concentration of sharks has been verified

It has been a while. Figured I was due for a firing! LOL!

If you haven't been fired, it probably means you have been playin' it safe. Warriors do not play it safe, so you should have been fired on occasion. I know I was and rather spectacularly on a couple of occasions! Why, I remember when I was flying with the Marines, this Colonel who didn't like Armee pilots decided he didn't like me. Or maybe he did and his way of showing affection was to stand me at attention and rip my butt off, top gun style in front of all the Marine aviators.

[cj7ox]

If you haven't been fired, it probably means you have been playin' it safe. Warriors do not play it safe, so you should have been fired on occasion. I know I was and rather spectacularly on a couple of occasions! Why, I remember when I was flying with the Marines, this Colonel who didn't like Armee pilots decided he didn't like me. Or maybe he did and his way of showing affection was to stand me at attention and rip my butt off, top gun style in front of all the Marine aviators.

You fired me several times in the past. Then I went into ninja stealth mode for a bit. ;-)

[Atkinsmatt]

Just start in stealth mode and snipe at targets of opportunity.  Sometimes you have to make the opportunity.

[Flyin6]

If you haven't been fired, it probably means you have been playin' it safe. Warriors do not play it safe, so you should have been fired on occasion. I know I was and rather spectacularly on a couple of occasions! Why, I remember when I was flying with the Marines, this Colonel who didn't like Armee pilots decided he didn't like me. Or maybe he did and his way of showing affection was to stand me at attention and rip my butt off, top gun style in front of all the Marine aviators.

You fired me several times in the past. Then I went into ninja stealth mode for a bit. ;-)

Oh! My bad. If you've been fired already, then you may benefit from a refresher! ;-))

[Flyin6]

Just start in stealth mode and snipe at targets of opportunity.  Sometimes you have to make the opportunity.

Ken and Shawn do that all the time!

[wyorunner]

So this thread has become the DOT comic section! Nice to see it has made something of itself. Clearly the burb is still trying to figure out if it wants to operate at full capacity or not.

[Flyin6]

So this thread has become the DOT comic section! Nice to see it has made something of itself. Clearly the burb is still trying to figure out if it wants to operate at full capacity or not.

...So Sad...

[Bigdave_185]

When progress is away the Dots will play?


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[stlaser]

Just start in stealth mode and snipe at targets of opportunity.  Sometimes you have to make the opportunity.

Ken and Shawn do that all the time!

Pretty sure we were both permanently fired years ago.....

[cj7ox]

When progress is away the Dots will play?

 
 

[Flyin6]

OK, OK already!

I found the source of the constant voltage drain. The ignition on signal wire for the solenoid that would have engaged allowing the aft battery to charge was keeping something turned on.

I removed it in an ongoing test to hunt down this culprit and bingo...The voltage remains more or less constant. After a night and a day, the battery as shown here is still holding 12.1 volts and that was after an engine start.

So with that remedied, it is now going back to Nick's for his (hopefully) final tune and correction.

I think I may still have an issue with the climate control motor or possibly with the BCM, so that will be the next grain of rice to chase down enroute to perfection.

[Bigdave_185]

Smoking tire video to come!


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