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Bigdave_185 · « **Reply #350 on:** May 23, 2019, 09:53:10 AM »

Second this ^ dude is arrogant as it gets but of the few who are..... he has earned it!

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swbhobie16 · « **Reply #351 on:** May 23, 2019, 01:43:42 PM »

ok.. so i think i solved it this morning after stepping away and coming back with new eyes.

started by just trying again. no go. once i realized i was an incompetent mouth breather, i started checking things.

flipped the 4wd 5 speed housing upside down to get a look at the planetary.
took the 5 speed sun gear out and dropped it in no problem. put sun gear back on 5 speed

took 6 speed sun gear and out and tried in the same planetary.. no dice. ok.. now we’re getting somewhere!!

sat down for a min and though. counted the teeth on the sun gears for both 5 and 6 speed.

48 and 53, respectively.

did the same with the larger outer gear.
103 and 111.

OK. now.. we have a solution. just swap the output shafts and housings!

which is exactly what i did. took about 30 min once i realized what was actually going on. just waiting for gaskets on both to do the final install (need to check the inside of the 5 speed in the morning, i’m questioning orientation of something)

2wd shaft on the right, 4wd on the left

swapped

housings on.. and they fit!!

JR · « **Reply #352 on:** May 23, 2019, 07:00:10 PM »

swbhobie16 · « **Reply #353 on:** May 23, 2019, 08:20:05 PM »

called mike this afternoon to confirm what i had done.

as soon as i told him what i was doing (4wd 5 speed onto a 2wd 6 speed)no couldn’t even finish my sentence before he said ‘you have to leave the planetaries in. they’re different pitches’ hahah. dude knows his stuff. that’s for sure.

(i may have name dropped when he answered after the warning.)

but he was great. and definitely knew exactly what i was talking about. so i’m good i think.

Bigdave_185 · « **Reply #354 on:** May 23, 2019, 08:53:28 PM »

And who’s name did ya drop? I know he doesn’t remember me unless he see the photo of me passed out on his dirty A floor in the shop for hours

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swbhobie16 · « **Reply #355 on:** May 23, 2019, 09:42:17 PM »

i said ‘hey my name is seth, i was pointed your direction from tate from randy’s ring and pinion.. had some questions about an allison 1000 if you had a mon’ hahah

Bigdave_185 · « **Reply #356 on:** May 23, 2019, 11:59:22 PM »

Now I know who’s name to drop lol. Ol tate sent me to ......

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swbhobie16 · « **Reply #357 on:** May 24, 2019, 07:57:37 AM »

i feel like it’s a safe name to use. some ppl i know are like ‘ohh just tell them i sent you..’ and sometimes i feel like i’m going to be shot afterwards. so i have to use caution when doing that sort of thing.

hahaha

EL TATE · « **Reply #358 on:** May 24, 2019, 12:24:23 PM »

I feel like I'm a pretty safe bet, unless your up in MN at a certain "twin city" automotive group; me and that guy just did not vibe, lol

swbhobie16 · « **Reply #359 on:** May 24, 2019, 09:56:17 PM »

got it all back together and home. only question i had was the spacer gear between P2 as P3 on the main shaft oil hole, but i think i got it figured out. so all good there.

can’t wait to clean it up and get it painted/back on the motor with new pan gasket and filters.

swbhobie16 · « **Reply #360 on:** May 25, 2019, 05:55:57 PM »

a little preview..

plug for the output end while it gets cleaned and painted

nasty bottom..

better. and that’s just from the bottom of the pan itself and the lip where the bolts go through to the case. i couldn’t even see the bolt heads..

stlaser · « **Reply #361 on:** May 25, 2019, 07:07:45 PM »

205 is pretty, we’re working on rear case mounts for that at moment

wyorunner · « **Reply #362 on:** May 25, 2019, 08:23:01 PM »

Quote from: stlaser on May 25, 2019, 07:07:45 PM

205 is pretty, we’re working on rear case mounts for that at moment

Just a universal 205 rear mount? I’ll take one if that’s the case :)

swbhobie16 · « **Reply #363 on:** May 25, 2019, 10:02:53 PM »

Quote from: stlaser on May 25, 2019, 07:07:45 PM

205 is pretty, we’re working on rear case mounts for that at moment

what sort of mount/where will it bolt to?

stlaser · « **Reply #364 on:** May 25, 2019, 10:25:40 PM »

Back side of front passenger output (on top of where fancy bling aluminum cover is now)

wyorunner · « **Reply #365 on:** May 25, 2019, 10:58:49 PM »

Quote from: stlaser on May 25, 2019, 10:25:40 PM

Back side of front passenger output (on top of where fancy bling aluminum cover is now)

When will they be ready? I need to pull my case back off anyways.

JR · « **Reply #366 on:** May 25, 2019, 11:08:14 PM »

That is going to be sweet. 205 looks great!

stlaser · « **Reply #367 on:** May 25, 2019, 11:12:57 PM »

Quote from: wyorunner on May 25, 2019, 10:58:49 PM

Quote from: stlaser on May 25, 2019, 10:25:40 PM
Back side of front passenger output (on top of where fancy bling aluminum cover is now)

When will they be ready? I need to pull my case back off anyways.

Should have them in stock within 30 days

swbhobie16 · « **Reply #368 on:** May 26, 2019, 07:47:24 PM »

so.. it’s made it to the operating table.

this side is nearly clean

this side.. is not. the bottom is dingy. top half is pretty close

swbhobie16 · « **Reply #369 on:** May 28, 2019, 04:50:23 PM »

aaaand here we go

this pic shows the best representation of the color. same as tcase. massey furgeson gray

Bigdave_185 · « **Reply #370 on:** May 28, 2019, 04:56:04 PM »

I don’t remember where it was I read it. But.... there is a good bit of heat transfer lost by painting al of these things

I asked MikeL when he had my trans about painting and he said simple “no”

Just info

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swbhobie16 · « **Reply #371 on:** May 28, 2019, 05:05:09 PM »

i thought about that too. also think i read something about the heat transfer online as well. seems like it’s half and half (maybe 1/3-2/3) of ppl and places that paint vs not paint. i figure it’s not a 100% hauler, nor a crazy powerful race truck.. will have a deeper trans pan for added fluid and a decent size cooler too. there are big places that paint trans’ like ATS, SDP and CDP that all paint them.

if it was in better shape overall i would have left it bare i think. but.. i just couldn’t leave it :/

does everyone really think it should be bare..?

JR · « **Reply #372 on:** May 28, 2019, 05:10:59 PM »

Light colors dissipate/reflect heat, dark absorb. Probably some insulation issue to any coating.

TexasRedNeck · « **Reply #373 on:** May 28, 2019, 07:14:23 PM »

Actually it’s called “emissive properties”. Flat black emits more energy and the best thing is a flat black coating ( why radiators are black)

In the end it’s a rounding error for a daily driver.

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TexasRedNeck · « **Reply #374 on:** May 28, 2019, 07:17:02 PM »

And here is some light reading

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emissivity

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KensAuto · « **Reply #375 on:** May 28, 2019, 07:39:13 PM »

Quote from: TexasRedNeck on May 28, 2019, 07:14:23 PM

Actually it’s called “emissive properties”. Flat black emits more energy and the best thing is a flat black coating ( why radiators are black)

In the end it’s a rounding error for a daily driver.

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Exactly. You'll be fine.

swbhobie16 · « **Reply #376 on:** May 28, 2019, 07:54:49 PM »

all good to hear.

plus.. it’ll match the tcase. which is always important. hahah.

i just needed to get it to where it wasn’t nasty grimy and oxidized

Bigdave_185 · « **Reply #377 on:** May 28, 2019, 10:16:00 PM »

Didnt Donny paint the square brick trans white? to spot the dodge trans leaking?

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swbhobie16 · « **Reply #378 on:** May 29, 2019, 06:42:30 AM »

Quote from: Bigdave_185 on May 28, 2019, 10:16:00 PM

Didnt Donny paint the square brick trans white? to spot the dodge trans leaking?

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yes. and probably a good call considering it was a dodge tranny

EL TATE · « **Reply #379 on:** May 30, 2019, 03:42:19 PM »

Quote from: swbhobie16 on May 29, 2019, 06:42:30 AM

Quote from: Bigdave_185 on May 28, 2019, 10:16:00 PM
Didnt Donny paint the square brick trans white? to spot the dodge trans leaking?

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yes. and probably a good call considering it was a dodge tranny

oof, shots fired!

swbhobie16 · « **Reply #380 on:** May 30, 2019, 06:57:02 PM »

a couple cool things going on..

deep kodiak allison pan, deep filter, filter lock and spin on allison filter

made a bracket to hold it on the engine stand

satin clean on pan

swbhobie16 · « **Reply #381 on:** May 31, 2019, 06:11:27 PM »

did alittle bit today

off with the old

really pleased with how this looks!

filter removed

new deep filter on

filter lock on

new deep pan on. i put an AC delco trans pan magnet where the red circle is.. not realizing the square in the bottom of the allison pan was a magnet. any issues with that..?

JR · « **Reply #382 on:** May 31, 2019, 06:15:17 PM »

Good magnet on the outside will work too.

Shift kit? Perfect time.

swbhobie16 · « **Reply #383 on:** May 31, 2019, 06:31:39 PM »

it’s on the inside. just stuck on. not glued. and no shift kit. keeping it stock.. for now. don’t want to do too much at once

JR · « **Reply #384 on:** May 31, 2019, 06:37:27 PM »

Just checking, Allison is marginal behind the LBZ stock.

swbhobie16 · « **Reply #385 on:** May 31, 2019, 06:41:51 PM »

well.. crap. now what should i do? hahaha

JR · « **Reply #386 on:** May 31, 2019, 06:44:14 PM »

Simple install, just open the pan. No major work at all.

swbhobie16 · « **Reply #387 on:** May 31, 2019, 06:52:54 PM »

kit suggestions?

JR · « **Reply #388 on:** May 31, 2019, 07:04:44 PM »

Trango Jr. plus your setup is clean. Doing it under a dippy trans is no fun.

swbhobie16 · « **Reply #389 on:** May 31, 2019, 07:11:45 PM »

i’ll look in to that. i should be about to reuse the gasket (new) since it’s only been put on once.

Flyin6 · « **Reply #390 on:** June 01, 2019, 10:44:13 AM »

Quote from: swbhobie16 on May 31, 2019, 06:31:39 PM

it’s on the inside. just stuck on. not glued. and no shift kit. keeping it stock.. for now. don’t want to do too much at once

You just confirmed, we are not related ;-)

swbhobie16 · « **Reply #391 on:** June 01, 2019, 10:58:39 AM »

i just meant.. too many changes to performance! hahah.

possibly taking the LBZ to get it studded and head job/hot tanked next week. then i can bolt it ALL back together and have it waiting on the frame (that’ll be the next big hurdle.. shorten to CCSB, 52” spring bracket swap, turn over 5th wheel plate, blast and powder)

swbhobie16 · « **Reply #392 on:** June 03, 2019, 02:46:00 PM »

swbhobie16 · « **Reply #393 on:** June 03, 2019, 02:54:40 PM »

just a mock up.. but it’s getting there!!

wilsonphil · « **Reply #394 on:** June 03, 2019, 03:19:30 PM »

Why not fit a doubler it there now?

swbhobie16 · « **Reply #395 on:** June 03, 2019, 08:29:15 PM »

Quote from: wilsonphil on June 03, 2019, 03:19:30 PM

Why not fit a doubler it there now?

hahha

JR · « **Reply #396 on:** June 03, 2019, 09:45:51 PM »

Heck that looks good.

Just think, open exhaust and intake, no smog tune or EGR. You should be putting down in the 500hp area with even a mild tune.

Since you are where you are, cleaning the adjustable vanes in the turbo out might be a good idea.

swbhobie16 · « **Reply #397 on:** June 03, 2019, 11:02:38 PM »

motor is at the shop getting studded and valve job and heads/runners and y pipe hot tanked. so it’ll get LB7 pass side uppipe. EGR delete. LML driver side manifold. 3” downpipe. should be like a whole new motor.

can’t wait to get it all together. will be cool to see all 3 pieces attached! hahah

swbhobie16 · « **Reply #398 on:** June 03, 2019, 11:22:23 PM »

ill look into the turbo cleaning too. no way it can hurt at this point. they were oily, but only from PCV from what i can tell. going to get some new PCV plugs to reroute them away from the intake.

any suggestions on a new intake? i’m not sure if the IC inlet will be down low or up top with my setup.. so i may end up having to cut it some. any thoughts/input would be much appreciated. i don’t want to just get a name brand piece for the sake of having a name stamped on it.. if they makes sense.

wyorunner · « **Reply #399 on:** June 03, 2019, 11:27:25 PM »

Time to start on the frame! Your gonna need it in short order!