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Re: Chinooks
« Reply #400 on: October 19, 2020, 01:25:49 PM »
That came about during desert storm. We started shooting ammunition called "Slap"
You probably won't find out a whole lot about it
But the plastic sabots pouring out of the gun were collecting on the engine inlets...ya, not so good

So with 4000 rounds per second streaming out, we had to keep the junk out of the horsepower makers which kept the crews and Lycoming happy

I don't see how that shoot does anything to help with the SLAP-T sabots, seeing as they come out the end of the barrel before peeling away from the projectile. BTW, SLAP-T .50cal rounds go through a lot of things like a hot knife through butter. ;-)
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« Reply #401 on: October 19, 2020, 05:53:25 PM »
That came about during desert storm. We started shooting ammunition called "Slap"
You probably won't find out a whole lot about it
But the plastic sabots pouring out of the gun were collecting on the engine inlets...ya, not so good

So with 4000 rounds per second streaming out, we had to keep the junk out of the horsepower makers which kept the crews and Lycoming happy

I don't see how that shoot does anything to help with the SLAP-T sabots, seeing as they come out the end of the barrel before peeling away from the projectile. BTW, SLAP-T .50cal rounds go through a lot of things like a hot knife through butter. ;-)
You're right, forgot about that. Well they ended up in those engine screens in clumps. I'm sure a goodly number of them were ingested as well.
So you made me think back some. The casings were running down the side of the aircraft causing some FOD damage, but all those links and brass roller bearings were trippin up a bunch of snake eaters too. I may be junking up the actual story, but I think that is right.
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« Reply #402 on: October 19, 2020, 05:54:49 PM »
Oh and I recall the first time we lit up a BMP or maybe it was a PT-76 with a burst, the darned thing caught fire. I was amazed! An anti-tank Chinook...Who knew?
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« Reply #403 on: October 20, 2020, 04:04:02 PM »
Yeah. I know the .50 SLAP-T would go through anything short on an MBT.
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Re: Chinooks
« Reply #404 on: October 20, 2020, 06:22:08 PM »
Thanks for goi g on about the SLAP rounds. It gave me something to watch while I was holding the baby last night on YouTube.


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« Reply #405 on: October 20, 2020, 09:04:55 PM »
There's no doubt at all watching a minigun burst as to whether the ammo is Slap or the regular stuff!
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Re: Chinooks
« Reply #406 on: January 04, 2021, 11:25:54 AM »
Needs no added words
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Re: Chinooks
« Reply #407 on: January 14, 2021, 03:20:18 PM »
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Re: Chinooks
« Reply #408 on: January 14, 2021, 03:51:32 PM »
During dear season a few years back I was having a pizza in Nevada City watching a Skycrane do the same. Talk about a great view!
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Re: Chinooks
« Reply #409 on: January 26, 2021, 03:08:38 PM »
Got some more:
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« Reply #410 on: January 26, 2021, 03:11:49 PM »
and:
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« Reply #411 on: January 26, 2021, 03:13:46 PM »
Magnificent flying machine
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« Reply #412 on: January 26, 2021, 03:16:10 PM »
And some odd variants
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« Reply #413 on: January 26, 2021, 03:17:48 PM »
"Sir, Hold your down!"
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« Reply #414 on: January 26, 2021, 03:19:55 PM »
Several different countries represented here
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« Reply #415 on: January 26, 2021, 03:23:14 PM »
Have to be Brits...
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« Reply #416 on: January 26, 2021, 03:25:02 PM »
Back to normal, sorta:
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Re: Chinooks
« Reply #417 on: January 26, 2021, 04:48:46 PM »
I've seen pics of the winged version. First time I noticed it had 4 blade rotors.

That PBY has probably never gone so fast before. They only cruised at 100mph, couple times I have seen them flyby it looks like it will fall out of the sky.
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« Reply #418 on: January 26, 2021, 05:08:15 PM »
I've seen pics of the winged version. First time I noticed it had 4 blade rotors.

That PBY has probably never gone so fast before. They only cruised at 100mph, couple times I have seen them flyby it looks like it will fall out of the sky.
Not only did it have wings, and 4-bladed rotor systems, but it was stretched and had retractable landing gear too!
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« Reply #419 on: January 26, 2021, 05:44:57 PM »
I did notice that, didn't know it was stretched. We learn everyday, even if 95% of the people wouldn't give darn about this stuff!
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« Reply #420 on: January 29, 2021, 10:43:24 AM »
Deserves a hardy place of honor amongst our great war fighting machines.

Men's souls can be found within the metal of these birds

May the sound of Huey blades echo forever into the future!
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« Reply #421 on: January 29, 2021, 12:42:54 PM »
Here, Here, that sound is awesome!
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« Reply #422 on: January 29, 2021, 12:51:00 PM »
I’ve always enjoyed the sound generated by a Huey, the rotor beat always has me looking at the sky.


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« Reply #423 on: January 29, 2021, 02:28:08 PM »
I’ve always enjoyed the sound generated by a Huey, the rotor beat always has me looking at the sky.


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So that sketch is of a classic "H" model, known as a "UH-1H"
In the Stan, I flew Super Hueys, "UH-1H II"
The standard version has 1300 HP, the Super Huey, 1800
The Super Huey had main rotor blades which were much wider
Because of all that, where a standard Huey cruises at 100-110, the Super Huey could manage speeds all the way up to 130!
The staccato beat from the super Huey at speed was much louder and deeper. I think I got that sound imprinted into my frame, having sat under that rotor system a thousand or so hours.
I noticed that the haji surely took notice when they heard that sound approaching. Sporting twin GAU-17 mini-guns, that sound definitely sparked fear and panic where we flew.
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« Reply #424 on: January 29, 2021, 10:18:07 PM »
I was sitting in the house up at the hide last night when a formation of 4 blackhawks flying in the dark at 150ft came right over the house.

Felt it before I heard it. Went out and saw just the red lights going south x south east at about 50 knots

Pretty cool.  Reminder that if they wanted to clear the deck I’d never see it or hear it coming


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« Reply #425 on: January 29, 2021, 10:22:08 PM »
Guess they know where you are, just in case,,,,,,,,,,,
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« Reply #426 on: January 29, 2021, 10:48:51 PM »
I was sitting in the house up at the hide last night when a formation of 4 blackhawks flying in the dark at 150ft came right over the house.

Felt it before I heard it. Went out and saw just the red lights going south x south east at about 50 knots

Pretty cool.  Reminder that if they wanted to clear the deck I’d never see it or hear it coming


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Agree, I doubt you would.
They're coming when you're probably asleep. From the first second you hear them until the bullets are flying is less than two minutes. Hardly enough time to get up, get your weapon, get ready and have your wits about you
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« Reply #427 on: January 29, 2021, 10:53:16 PM »
Yeah I was thinking FLIR and a hellfire from a stand-off of a mile away.

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« Reply #428 on: January 30, 2021, 02:14:56 PM »
Yeah I was thinking FLIR and a hellfire from a stand-off of a mile away.

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They'd shoot from further than a mile, and yes the dust would still be rising when the sonic boom arrived (as in you'd already be in the presence of the Lord asking, "What just happened?")
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« Reply #429 on: January 30, 2021, 04:58:43 PM »
My first ride in a chopper was a Huey at Air Force survival school. Was hosted up dragged into the Huey. They point where I needed to plant myself and what to hold onto. I got to witness firsthand some very impressive flying at low altitude and very near to some tree with very little traction between my backside and the cabin floor.

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« Reply #430 on: January 30, 2021, 07:10:34 PM »
They came back last night...

Now I’m getting paranoid....lets see if they come back tonight.

Probably wouldn’t take kindly to being lased but the thought crossed my mind...

I just need a big sheet of glass....


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« Reply #431 on: January 30, 2021, 09:06:59 PM »
Long as there not stopping. Maybe they know its "safe airspace"
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« Reply #432 on: January 30, 2021, 09:07:52 PM »
My guess is that since Im in the national forest that they practice NVG maneuvers here because there are no lights in the forest.


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« Reply #433 on: January 30, 2021, 09:15:34 PM »
My guess is that since Im in the national forest that they practice NVG maneuvers here because there are no lights in the forest.


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What is the illumination after EENT there tonight?
You can test your theory to see if the flying tapers off below 23% illum. Wouldn't affect the more sporty units, but nasty guard and "regular" armee would access low illum as a high risk flight which would require a Colonel or higher to authorize (Something he/she would likely never do)
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« Reply #434 on: January 30, 2021, 09:29:44 PM »
Hadn’t thought about that, but full moon, or close. With moon rise being about 8.  So the 10-10:30 flight times would be when the moon is getting pretty far up to illuminate the intensifier tubes.  Makes sense.


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« Reply #435 on: January 30, 2021, 09:56:27 PM »
Hadn’t thought about that, but full moon, or close. With moon rise being about 8.  So the 10-10:30 flight times would be when the moon is getting pretty far up to illuminate the intensifier tubes.  Makes sense.


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We "real" pilots call that "Field-grade" night. It's actually so light outside that you almost don't need goggles. The guys who fly the least, majors/colonels who are "field-grade" officers will be out with an experienced instructor pilot to get the necessary hours of NVG that they need to maintain currency. Real NVG pilots hardly ever fly during high illum because war fighting is best done on the darkest of nights and flying during high illum exposes you to a bunch of rookie pilots who don't know what they are doing
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« Reply #437 on: January 31, 2021, 01:26:26 PM »
Link is locked.
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« Reply #439 on: January 31, 2021, 01:30:25 PM »
Same, says it is only for "invited" guests.
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« Reply #440 on: January 31, 2021, 01:38:25 PM »
Same, says it is only for "invited" guests.
Shucks!
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« Reply #441 on: January 31, 2021, 01:39:57 PM »
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« Reply #444 on: January 31, 2021, 02:18:35 PM »
Bernie is everywhere!!!
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« Reply #445 on: January 31, 2021, 02:27:49 PM »
Awesome pics boss!

I wonder what it would be like to hook up the slings under that Goliath for the first time. Oof
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« Reply #446 on: January 31, 2021, 03:08:28 PM »
What’s that robe you are wearing in that pic, Don?


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« Reply #447 on: January 31, 2021, 03:24:02 PM »
It does kinda look like one of Don's rare pics. Man gloves too,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
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« Reply #448 on: January 31, 2021, 03:55:51 PM »
What’s that robe you are wearing in that pic, Don?


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« Reply #449 on: January 31, 2021, 04:00:11 PM »
Awesome pics boss!

I wonder what it would be like to hook up the slings under that Goliath for the first time. Oof
...Nate, you did that right? If so, try to describe it for us civies.
Its real noisy
Very windy while it is hovering forward over you and the load
Touch the hook before you ground the aircraft and the static charge will probably knock you unconscious
Then when the aircraft is ascending to pull the slings tight it gets really windy
When the load comes off the ground and you're within 100-200 feet you are:
1. Inside a tornado
2. Probably flying as well
No one can stand in that downwash with a max gross weight load at an 80 foot hover.
Although I've seen many a fool try...
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