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Wood shop evolution
« on: July 04, 2019, 02:34:09 PM »
I think that somewhere in this site, a long time ago and perhaps in a galaxy far, far away I photoed the transformation of this 25 X 25 foot space into a wood shop.

Over the years I have made improvements and I ma doing some more while I wait for MY FREAKIN' SUBURBAN TO GET FINISHED!

OK, better now...

Anyway I'll start out with the addition of the latest toy in that shop, a dust collector. I have been working down there in the dust filled air for years and the other day I noticed I sprouted a a bit of bark forming on my arm. I guess I have inhaled enough of that sawdust to start to become "Part Tree!"

Anyway after a failed attempt to purchase a used one from a guy I know, I just picked up one from Harbor Freight. And on that note, I have to say, in just the past couple years they are really stepping up the quality. I have now purchased a couple dozen things and almost all of them are still working or have proven to be reliable.

So, the dust collector:
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« Reply #1 on: July 04, 2019, 02:35:40 PM »
Starting with a steel base of some substance (Not flimsy) I built the thing up
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« Reply #2 on: July 04, 2019, 02:37:44 PM »
It took maybe 1.5 hours and I had a working dust sucker.

For the first test, I hooked up the accessory hose to the planer and fed a few freshly sawn cedar boards through it
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« Reply #3 on: July 04, 2019, 02:38:34 PM »
So did it work?

What do you think?
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« Reply #4 on: July 04, 2019, 02:39:50 PM »
Cedar board pile transition to purdy woodses
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« Reply #5 on: July 04, 2019, 02:42:05 PM »
Next up is running an overhead collection pipe to the table saw and building of another 8 foot table to occupy the space where the antique furniture used to collect dust. Anyone for some eastlake chairs that have been in the H household since the 1920's?
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« Reply #6 on: July 04, 2019, 02:43:45 PM »
Oh and just placed an add in facebook for my uncles 1955 Dewalt/AMF radial arm saw. I can't collect these antiques when what I really need is work space.
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Re: Wood shop evolution
« Reply #7 on: July 04, 2019, 02:55:46 PM »
Most of the time our dust collection in the shop doesn’t get turned on.  Maddening actually as it allows dust form in my spray booth.   

We run a six inch pipe around the shop and attach all of our tools to it,  if anything it keeps the fine dust collected and the big stuff can be swept up


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Re: Wood shop evolution
« Reply #8 on: July 05, 2019, 09:44:14 AM »
So, lets build a table

First up, assemble the top.

I wanted it to be tall, so it has 36" legs and not too deep to save space and long. So I settled on a more or less universal size, 8' X 2' X 36" tall

Starts like this to occupy the messy space against the wall
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« Reply #9 on: July 05, 2019, 09:45:23 AM »
I used 45's in the corners to keep it square, and provide for a top mount for the legs to rest on. Everything is screwed and glued
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« Reply #10 on: July 05, 2019, 09:46:30 AM »
Bracing set on 24" centers
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« Reply #11 on: July 05, 2019, 09:47:38 AM »
Legs set on 48" senters and braced with 3/4" 45 degree plywood sections
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« Reply #12 on: July 05, 2019, 09:49:16 AM »
Top fitted with 3/4" plywood, screwed and glued
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« Reply #13 on: July 05, 2019, 09:50:35 AM »
Then covered with 1/2" MDF. This layer is not glued. Intended to be removed when all ganked up.
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« Reply #14 on: July 05, 2019, 09:51:48 AM »
With the addition of outriggers for stacking of boards and a full length shelf

Plans are to add another shelf for odd sized pieces of wood
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« Reply #15 on: July 05, 2019, 09:54:15 AM »
Several pieces of freshly cut cedar stacked up on the outriggers. These will soon become a privacy fence around the trash cans
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« Reply #16 on: July 05, 2019, 09:55:16 AM »
Next up, sort overhead dust collection piping
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« Reply #17 on: July 05, 2019, 09:56:19 AM »
This is my current dust collection system. Very effective in transferring sawdust from the shop to the various rooms upstairs
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« Reply #18 on: July 05, 2019, 11:22:17 AM »
A table, very interesting. Figured you would have used construction paper and Elmer’s paste sticks....

Other garage probably needs a steel one while you’re at it.
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« Reply #19 on: July 05, 2019, 12:01:03 PM »
Nice welding table you made there Chief....


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« Reply #20 on: July 05, 2019, 02:58:00 PM »
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« Reply #21 on: July 05, 2019, 09:56:00 PM »
I added trunk line shutoff valves so that I have maximum suction on the saws actually in use
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« Reply #22 on: July 05, 2019, 09:56:43 PM »
And added a little bracing
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« Reply #23 on: July 05, 2019, 09:57:38 PM »
Then I properly labeled the suck, er, suction pipe
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« Reply #24 on: July 05, 2019, 09:59:18 PM »
This second branch is located overhead, but that's good as I have something short of 10 feet height in the basement. I designed the house that way
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« Reply #25 on: July 05, 2019, 10:01:26 PM »
This water drain pipe is some strange convoluted stuff with a smooth plastic interior and what I think is a pvc cover. I glued it with PVC cement, but also taped it with gorilla tape
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« Reply #26 on: July 05, 2019, 10:03:05 PM »
I purchased sections of shop vac hose and made the attachments to the chop saw and the table saw with that stuff.
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« Reply #27 on: July 05, 2019, 10:04:40 PM »
So, yea, I'm good with it and this project is now in the bag!

And I tested it at all stations. It works great
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« Reply #28 on: July 05, 2019, 11:18:03 PM »
clean and well thought out Don.  Nicely done.
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« Reply #29 on: July 07, 2019, 10:54:17 AM »
clean and well thought out Don.  Nicely done.
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now to actually clean it up!
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« Reply #30 on: July 07, 2019, 11:31:54 AM »
One of the things that makes sweeping up the hardest in our shop is the type of dust, it’s super fine like flour.   Long ago I used a product from uline https://www.uline.com/BL_7004/Industrial-Sweeping-Compounds
On our concrete polishing jobs to maintain the silica dust.   Well you and I both  work in a prim environment to make our own.    Just a little sprits of water on a pile of saw dust and sweep up the rest of the shop.   Keeps it from floating away in the air,   You could also use a small amount of oil if the floor is smooth.     We keep a bucket in the cabinet shop that is damp saw dust just for clean up. 




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« Reply #31 on: July 07, 2019, 10:05:50 PM »
One of the things that makes sweeping up the hardest in our shop is the type of dust, it’s super fine like flour.   Long ago I used a product from uline https://www.uline.com/BL_7004/Industrial-Sweeping-Compounds
On our concrete polishing jobs to maintain the silica dust.   Well you and I both  work in a prim environment to make our own.    Just a little sprits of water on a pile of saw dust and sweep up the rest of the shop.   Keeps it from floating away in the air,   You could also use a small amount of oil if the floor is smooth.     We keep a bucket in the cabinet shop that is damp saw dust just for clean up. 




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Interesting
I am using the cedar coarse dust for mulch around the conifers. Get a decent bed of it and scatter pine bark nuggets on top. THis year we are prepping a big spot for a pile of firewood. I plan to stack the whole pile of wood on top of sawdust, cedar saw dust to keep the insects to a minimum. Bugs don't like eastern cedar. Reason why I think it was so popular to line closets with...no Moths or roaches
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« Reply #32 on: July 07, 2019, 10:23:27 PM »
One of the things that makes sweeping up the hardest in our shop is the type of dust, it’s super fine like flour.   Long ago I used a product from uline https://www.uline.com/BL_7004/Industrial-Sweeping-Compounds
On our concrete polishing jobs to maintain the silica dust.   Well you and I both  work in a prim environment to make our own.    Just a little sprits of water on a pile of saw dust and sweep up the rest of the shop.   Keeps it from floating away in the air,   You could also use a small amount of oil if the floor is smooth.     We keep a bucket in the cabinet shop that is damp saw dust just for clean up. 




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I am using the cedar coarse dust for mulch around the conifers. Get a decent bed of it and scatter pine bark nuggets on top. THis year we are prepping a big spot for a pile of firewood. I plan to stack the whole pile of wood on top of sawdust, cedar saw dust to keep the insects to a minimum. Bugs don't like eastern cedar. Reason why I think it was so popular to line closets with...no Moths or roaches


You have the wood put up and covered yet so it can start drying?
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« Reply #33 on: July 07, 2019, 10:26:57 PM »
Might already be late for dry time.
Seasoned wood is key.
I just don't want to wind up missing a digit or limb.  I can sometimes get in a hurry to get results.
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« Reply #34 on: July 07, 2019, 10:54:14 PM »
Might already be late for dry time.
Seasoned wood is key.

If it’s split June is about as late as I liked to put it up in the midwest
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« Reply #35 on: July 07, 2019, 11:05:11 PM »
One of the things that makes sweeping up the hardest in our shop is the type of dust, it’s super fine like flour.   Long ago I used a product from uline https://www.uline.com/BL_7004/Industrial-Sweeping-Compounds
On our concrete polishing jobs to maintain the silica dust.   Well you and I both  work in a prim environment to make our own.    Just a little sprits of water on a pile of saw dust and sweep up the rest of the shop.   Keeps it from floating away in the air,   You could also use a small amount of oil if the floor is smooth.     We keep a bucket in the cabinet shop that is damp saw dust just for clean up. 




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I am using the cedar coarse dust for mulch around the conifers. Get a decent bed of it and scatter pine bark nuggets on top. THis year we are prepping a big spot for a pile of firewood. I plan to stack the whole pile of wood on top of sawdust, cedar saw dust to keep the insects to a minimum. Bugs don't like eastern cedar. Reason why I think it was so popular to line closets with...no Moths or roaches


You have the wood put up and covered yet so it can start drying?
Some is cut some is still in logs, some is still in the ground in the form of a 2 year dead ash tree...After the emerald Ash Borer, we have millions of these in Kentucky
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« Reply #36 on: July 07, 2019, 11:15:59 PM »
Yeah, had those in Indiana few years back. I actually cut them all from my woods prior to getting infected and sold them off. But they do make a good dried standing source of firewood.....
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« Reply #37 on: July 08, 2019, 08:42:57 AM »
Yeah, had those in Indiana few years back. I actually cut them all from my woods prior to getting infected and sold them off. But they do make a good dried standing source of firewood.....
I have harvested some really nice eight and ten foot logs 24" in diameter and larger.
Not firewood
First piece will be out living room table to match that new sofa
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« Reply #38 on: July 08, 2019, 08:55:18 AM »
Ash is a good heat source too I might add, burns fairly hot. Never used it for furniture but weren’t baseball bats made from it?
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« Reply #39 on: July 08, 2019, 11:07:45 PM »
Ash is a good heat source too I might add, burns fairly hot. Never used it for furniture but weren’t baseball bats made from it?
Yes they are

I burned a bunch of it this last cold spell. You're right it burns hot and well
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« Reply #40 on: July 09, 2019, 05:36:12 PM »
Don, that little hose attached to the chop saw won't do much at all. If you build a box/hood behind the saw, that will make this work a lot mo' betterer.

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https://www.buildsomething.com/plans/P1E465F586E093683/Miter-Saw-Dust-Hood

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« Reply #41 on: July 09, 2019, 06:20:46 PM »


I got one.  No vacuum attached to it yet


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« Reply #42 on: July 10, 2019, 09:30:32 AM »
OK, then! I like it

Thanks!

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« Reply #43 on: July 10, 2019, 09:32:10 AM »
Not to Dave, (Any Dave) of course...just Ryan.

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I got one.  No vacuum attached to it yet


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Yea, I can see how this hood thing would work. I watched the sawdust exit through the cut cycle, and the first 20-30 degrees of swing, the sawdust blows right past the scoop. It catches probably 70% of the dust, but as much as I cut that wee little bit will add up.

Oh, and I just put up my 1955 dewalt radial arm saw for sale. Time to move that beast on to some collector. And it still runs and works!
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« Reply #45 on: July 10, 2019, 01:09:09 PM »
OK, then! I like it

Thanks!

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« Reply #46 on: July 10, 2019, 03:54:32 PM »
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« Reply #47 on: July 11, 2019, 09:42:50 AM »
OK, then! I like it

Thanks!

And for that

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Do you have some kind of tracking system in lieu of paper? ;) I think I'm up to two or three GOOGFC's now.   :beercheers:
Actually I don't track them

You see, there is an expiration date

Because I'll forget about it PDQ, they expire in 24 hours

You like everyone else should be back to none!

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« Reply #48 on: July 11, 2019, 10:17:28 AM »
Hey Don, "Your work sucks...." in a GOOD way!  Totally understand about keeping busy while WAITING on stuff!  :grin:
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