Post by: Flyin6 on February 15, 2023, 03:50:56 PM
I wanted one in the Patriot blue and I was lucky enough to find this one on the lot where I get my Gladiator serviced.
Post by: Flyin6 on February 15, 2023, 03:53:50 PM
The truck stickered for $80,000 MSRP and I was able to purchase it for $71,500
I checked all the stats before buying to ensure it will pull (legally) everything I own. The heaviest pull I have is currently around 18,000 lbs. This will bumper pull 20,200 depending on tongue weight.
Post by: Flyin6 on February 15, 2023, 03:56:20 PM
Post by: Flyin6 on February 15, 2023, 03:58:22 PM
Post by: Flyin6 on February 15, 2023, 04:00:56 PM
It has both 4 and 7-pin trailer receptacles and a class whatever receiver that has to be sleeved down to 2" just like my Chevy
Post by: Flyin6 on February 15, 2023, 04:04:44 PM
It has the DEF filler where it should be
The tires are E-rated and it rides, well, very firm. I do not like the Firestone tires, but I'm gonna run them. For a 3500, it does not have overload springs, but judging on how firm the ride is, they did all that in the single spring pack.
It has the AAM 11.5" axle we are well accustomed to
Post by: Flyin6 on February 15, 2023, 04:06:17 PM
I know, several of you are becoming concerned... ;-)
Post by: Flyin6 on February 15, 2023, 04:07:52 PM
Post by: Bob Smith on February 15, 2023, 04:52:52 PM
Can’t believe you aren’t going to start changing things right away.
Post by: JR on February 15, 2023, 06:36:19 PM
Going to line it and put a gooseneck on it?
Post by: Flyin6 on February 15, 2023, 06:48:54 PM
Very nice. Supprised about the overloads too with just a 3 spring pack. Love the cubby storage, always seems we need more!Line it: yes
Going to line it and put a gooseneck on it?
Gooseneck: Maybe eventually. Right now I have that almost new 17K Kaufman bumper pull equipment trailer. So my plan is to get started pulling my machine to jobs here and there as is. I would like to add a GN if I get a little more serious with using the machine.
Post by: Flyin6 on February 15, 2023, 06:50:23 PM
Nice looking rig Don. Don’t know about not having overload spring, but I guess they know what they are doing.I know, crazy, right?
Can’t believe you aren’t going to start changing things right away.
But I really think I have either flat-out changed or perhaps "evolved" a bit, because I really just want a reliable, warranted, vehicle that is more or less stock.
Post by: Flyin6 on February 15, 2023, 06:52:21 PM
Post by: stlaser on February 15, 2023, 07:55:18 PM
Post by: Bigdave_185 on February 16, 2023, 01:59:17 AM
Good lookin color!
Post by: Atkinsmatt on February 16, 2023, 07:13:38 AM
Post by: stlaser on February 16, 2023, 10:00:46 AM
Well I’m not sure I buy the no mod thing in your future, but we will play along
Good lookin color!
I agree, good looking truck and if you recall my truck when I bought it there were mods but it was the full “grandpa mod edition”. You know color painted cap, bed carpet kit, those fancy drop down electric steps we know he loves. And…… potentially some added chrome trim pieces in just the right places.
Post by: Flyin6 on February 16, 2023, 10:12:55 AM
Well I’m not sure I buy the no mod thing in your future, but we will play alongYa, that's not this truck nor me.
Good lookin color!
Now I do not think electric steps are out of the question. I watched Kat struggle to get in/out of it yesterday. I immediately told her, "Honey, no mods..." then she gave me those droopy sad eyes...
Thank you gentlemen!
I agree, good looking truck and if you recall my truck when I bought it there were mods but it was the full “grandpa mod edition”. You know color painted cap, bed carpet kit, those fancy drop down electric steps we know he loves. And…… potentially some added chrome trim pieces in just the right places.
Post by: cj7ox on February 16, 2023, 03:49:15 PM
Post by: Flyin6 on February 17, 2023, 03:57:58 PM
Nice truck, Don! It's the younger brother of mine, and the same color. Mine is the same color, 16 years older, with a ton more miles! LOLCool, cousins!
I didn't go for the HO with 1075 ft lab or the AISIN transmission, because, with the 850 the truck has it moves out rather briskly. I'm not seeing the need for the added expense (+$3K) when my max tow will likely fall just under 20K
Isn't yours either 650 or 850 torque? And how do you think that answers your daily needs?
Post by: Flyin6 on February 17, 2023, 07:06:19 PM
All 3500 Ram trucks come with something they call an "Anti-Spin" differential.
For the 11.5 AAM, the only one I know about is the G80 GM unit. Is that what is in my rear axle?
Post by: Bigdave_185 on February 17, 2023, 11:25:39 PM
Post by: stlaser on February 17, 2023, 11:59:15 PM
Question for Tate or anyone else who has knowledge.
All 3500 Ram trucks come with something they call an "Anti-Spin" differential.
For the 11.5 AAM, the only one I know about is the G80 GM unit. Is that what is in my rear axle?
Unless it’s something new yes it’s the g80 and an extremely reliable unit unlike the 10.5 gov bomb of old.
Post by: TexasRedNeck on February 18, 2023, 06:26:38 AM
Ill take April 1, as the over under on mods…..
congrats Don.
Post by: stlaser on February 18, 2023, 09:16:41 AM
Nice truck. ADHD much?
Ill take April 1, as the over under on mods…..
congrats Don.
:popcorn: 30 day increments? Ok, I’ll bite……
May 1 for me
Post by: Bigdave_185 on February 18, 2023, 09:19:58 AM
I’ll give it another 2 week till something is ordered for it
Post by: Flyin6 on February 18, 2023, 10:47:32 AM
Nice truck. ADHD much?You're a bad man...Aren't you banned or something (Or perhaps should be as an example to others...?) ;-)
Ill take April 1, as the over under on mods…..
congrats Don.
Post by: Flyin6 on February 18, 2023, 10:48:21 AM
What’s the definition of modification you are going off of? Window tint a mod?Well, something is already ordered...
I’ll give it another 2 week till something is ordered for it
Wait for it
...
Mopar rubber floor mats
Post by: Flyin6 on February 18, 2023, 11:01:07 AM
So steps? Tool box? xL fuel tank capacity? speaker upgrade? Paint protection film? Ceramic window tint?OK, ok, let's define mods
Mods are things that really start to get away from the manufacturers intent. Like a new exhaust or tuning or suspension mods
Things like the floor mats I just ordered, or a different brand oil or oil filter is well within the spectrum of normal stuff...Agree?
So, where you may catch me up is with the AMP research steps. Those are getting a little way apart from stock and do involve some wrenching. But this truck is sort of tall, and Kat is having a hard time getting in and out of it.
I told her I was not going to add steps when she requested them because in legal terms, "it pierces the veil." Sort of like a little tiny leak in a levee on the Mississippi river.
Next thing you know I'm leveling it, a mild tune, some better shocks, and bolting on one of Shawn's diff covers simply because the diff cover is somehow connected to the amp steps.
No, I can't explain how.
And we do not currently have a psychologist on the site to help explain that.
So, suffice it to say, I just know me all too well.
I can't look at a lawn mower without wondering how it would sound with a set of Harley shorties bolted on
Hmmm, come to think of it, that would be pretty cool.
Especially on that tracked terminator mower I own...
Steps: Possibly
Fuel tank: no (for now)
Speaker upgrade: No
Paint protective film: Just waiting for you to recommend which product to buy.
Ceramic window tint: No, no, and absolutely NO. After tinting the Tesla, and the D-Max, I hate driving in a tinted car.
Oh did I mention I spent a bit too much on my wife's new 2+kt nearly flawless and colorless diamond?
And there has long been talk of putting either a 1970 SuperBee or a 70 SS 454 Chevelle in the garage. That talk recently cropped up again...
Post by: Bob Smith on February 18, 2023, 11:11:15 AM
Post by: JR on February 18, 2023, 04:52:17 PM
I think ram makes a type of true track also, could that be in there?
What size is the tank
Of course it needs a mild tune and steps for Kate.
Post by: Bigdave_185 on February 18, 2023, 05:07:50 PM
Don’t forget you need gauges like the banks Idash to watch the pesky Def system function, might as well add their intake while under the hood.
Post by: TexasRedNeck on February 18, 2023, 05:33:50 PM
https://www.xpel.com/paint-protection-kits/US--AND--Canada/Passenger-Cars--AND--Light-Trucks/2022/Ram/3500/Laramie
This will give you an idea of what areas you can cover. Lights and bumper and the hood kit would be my recommendation.
Post by: stlaser on February 18, 2023, 06:22:01 PM
Post by: Flyin6 on February 18, 2023, 09:56:09 PM
No need for the full hood. Just the bikini kit from Expel. If it were white id do the full hood because white shows the lines more than dark colors.My gosh!
https://www.xpel.com/paint-protection-kits/US--AND--Canada/Passenger-Cars--AND--Light-Trucks/2022/Ram/3500/Laramie
This will give you an idea of what areas you can cover. Lights and bumper and the hood kit would be my recommendation.
That is stupid expensive!
Post by: TexasRedNeck on February 18, 2023, 11:26:10 PM
Post by: Flyin6 on February 19, 2023, 09:33:33 AM
Yes since you don’t keep anything more than 6 months. But if you keep it long term its well worth it. My stuff that’s 7-10 years old has zero rock chips on it..Well, I kept the Chevy 2500 for nearly 12 years. I've had that Suburban for quite a long time.
I had the Tesla for, errr...
;-)
Post by: Sammconn on February 19, 2023, 12:11:22 PM
So steps? Tool box? xL fuel tank capacity? speaker upgrade? Paint protection film? Ceramic window tint?OK, ok, let's define mods
Mods are things that really start to get away from the manufacturers intent. Like a new exhaust or tuning or suspension mods
Things like the floor mats I just ordered, or a different brand oil or oil filter is well within the spectrum of normal stuff...Agree?
So, where you may catch me up is with the AMP research steps. Those are getting a little way apart from stock and do involve some wrenching. But this truck is sort of tall, and Kat is having a hard time getting in and out of it.
I told her I was not going to add steps when she requested them because in legal terms, "it pierces the veil." Sort of like a little tiny leak in a levee on the Mississippi river.
Next thing you know I'm leveling it, a mild tune, some better shocks, and bolting on one of Shawn's diff covers simply because the diff cover is somehow connected to the amp steps.
No, I can't explain how.
And we do not currently have a psychologist on the site to help explain that.
So, suffice it to say, I just know me all too well.
I can't look at a lawn mower without wondering how it would sound with a set of Harley shorties bolted on
Hmmm, come to think of it, that would be pretty cool.
Especially on that tracked terminator mower I own...
Steps: Possibly
Fuel tank: no (for now)
Speaker upgrade: No
Paint protective film: Just waiting for you to recommend which product to buy.
Ceramic window tint: No, no, and absolutely NO. After tinting the Tesla, and the D-Max, I hate driving in a tinted car.
Oh did I mention I spent a bit too much on my wife's new 2+kt nearly flawless and colorless diamond?
And there has long been talk of putting either a 1970 SuperBee or a 70 SS 454 Chevelle in the garage. That talk recently cropped up again...
Based on this…March 1st.
Nice truck chief.
Post by: cj7ox on February 22, 2023, 12:18:03 PM
Isn't yours either 650 or 850 torque? And how do you think that answers your daily needs?
Mine stock is 325hp, 610 lbs ft or torque, with the 6spd manual. I've pulled a little over 10k on the bumper through the hills on TN and never had an issue. With the tuner in tow, or performance mode, I've probably got a bit more power torue, but I generally use the stock setting unless on a long highway road trip. Those setting don't like to lug in traffic, bringing my mpg down (cause I'm lazy sometimes and don't downshift at the "optimum" points, LOL). I've never felt the need for more power/torque.
Post by: EL TATE on February 22, 2023, 02:57:42 PM
Just don't tint them heavy, match the rear windows. Doing the same on my tahoe.
I think ram makes a type of true track also, could that be in there?
What size is the tank
Of course it needs a mild tune and steps for Kate.
AAM TRAC RITE aka absolute garbage, and this is on a personal level,not business oriented at all. hardened gears and soft cast iron cases don't mix well. but that's on 2018 and older scenarios, and i cannot speak for 2019+.
Post by: Flyin6 on February 22, 2023, 09:27:28 PM
I am not worried at all, because for 100,000 miles, it is under warranty, and after that, I know a guy who sells a Grizzly locker...;-)
Post by: EL TATE on February 23, 2023, 12:38:44 PM
Post by: dave945 on March 01, 2023, 12:08:05 AM
If you want to test it out towing the loaded down equipment trailer, you could bring it up to the house and get the back field ready for seeding and test out your tree demolished in the woods. Just a thought ;)
Post by: Flyin6 on March 01, 2023, 10:01:25 AM
Nice looking truck, Don. I really like that color, kind of an Air Force blue.Thanks Dave!
If you want to test it out towing the loaded down equipment trailer, you could bring it up to the house and get the back field ready for seeding and test out your tree demolished in the woods. Just a thought ;)
It is kinda an Air Force Blue.
And
I actually come from Air Force stock, did you know?
Dad flew B-17's and then some cargo stuff when it was the Army Air Corps. He never wore the blue uniform, but those guys were Air Force pilots. And that's where I come from.
At least I made the turn back to Armee green (Except for the truck)
So, what do you need done at the property?
Post by: dave945 on March 01, 2023, 10:47:30 AM
Got the back field rough leveled last year, I’m going to get a lot of the larger rocks and roots picked up and smooth it out a little more before I seed it all for grass. I need to just send the kids out and tell them they can’t come back in until they clear a hundred pounds a piece of rock from the yard.Nice looking truck, Don. I really like that color, kind of an Air Force blue.Thanks Dave!
If you want to test it out towing the loaded down equipment trailer, you could bring it up to the house and get the back field ready for seeding and test out your tree demolished in the woods. Just a thought ;)
It is kinda an Air Force Blue.
And
I actually come from Air Force stock, did you know?
Dad flew B-17's and then some cargo stuff when it was the Army Air Corps. He never wore the blue uniform, but those guys were Air Force pilots. And that's where I come from.
At least I made the turn back to Armee green (Except for the truck)
So, what do you need done at the property?
Post by: Flyin6 on March 01, 2023, 04:59:03 PM
Or, rent a tractor with a rock rake.Got the back field rough leveled last year, I’m going to get a lot of the larger rocks and roots picked up and smooth it out a little more before I seed it all for grass. I need to just send the kids out and tell them they can’t come back in until they clear a hundred pounds a piece of rock from the yard.Nice looking truck, Don. I really like that color, kind of an Air Force blue.Thanks Dave!
If you want to test it out towing the loaded down equipment trailer, you could bring it up to the house and get the back field ready for seeding and test out your tree demolished in the woods. Just a thought ;)
It is kinda an Air Force Blue.
And
I actually come from Air Force stock, did you know?
Dad flew B-17's and then some cargo stuff when it was the Army Air Corps. He never wore the blue uniform, but those guys were Air Force pilots. And that's where I come from.
At least I made the turn back to Armee green (Except for the truck)
So, what do you need done at the property?
Post by: Flyin6 on March 01, 2023, 05:01:07 PM
I picked up Mopar rubber floor mats
Post by: Flyin6 on March 01, 2023, 05:02:38 PM
Post by: Flyin6 on March 01, 2023, 05:04:47 PM
The fit is perfect!
Is this my first mod?
Post by: Flyin6 on March 06, 2023, 09:59:42 PM
The first tank yielded mid-16s with the fuel computer indicating low 16s.
I have been driving it steady state at 72-76 on the highway and the fuel consumption calculator is currently showing 19.1.
I want to say, now well into the second tank of fuel that it may be breaking in somewhat. It feels very smooth, not all that responsive, but super torquey. I often see the tach sitting at 1,200-1,500 RPM and frankly, unlike the Duramax, it does not feel like it needs to downshift. It has a rich well with an abundance of torque.
I am really liking this truck so far.
Post by: JR on March 07, 2023, 12:18:11 AM
For the pedal feel, they a kit for that as very common. Doesn't tune, just adjusts the pedal.
Post by: cj7ox on March 07, 2023, 09:59:25 AM
Post by: Flyin6 on March 07, 2023, 10:17:55 AM
Don, I wouldn't rely on the computer MPG reading. Do it by hand to get a true reading. My computer regularly shows I'm getting 28 MPG average, when the math shows 18. ;-)Copy that
Last time I used the fuel consumption calculator function, then when I filled up, I did the math. Surprisingly they nearly matched.
So I a reaching at the moment that based on the accuracy of that calculator the first time, I should be doing much better this time. However in a few days when I top it up again, I will establish the actual numbers and report.
The Jeep has the exact same display functions and it has been off by 2-2.5 mpg.
Same-same with aircraft. You use the charts in the manual to calculate fuel consumption, but in the end, you're walking out to go flying and you see the guy who flew it yesterday, "Hey Bob, you carried the heavy load yesterday, how much did she burn?" And that is how it really goes.
Having said that the manufacturing tolerances in aircraft are tighter than in automobiles and the charts are actually pretty good...Unless you're that guy who constantly finds yourself a quarter ball out of trim. Then it's, "Darn, three-two-seven really sucks the fuel!"
Some people...
Post by: cj7ox on March 07, 2023, 10:32:03 AM
Post by: Flyin6 on March 13, 2023, 03:33:48 PM
The fuel calculator on the dash indicated 19.5 mpg.
The fuel calculator in the vehicle averages the preceding 50 miles.
Post by: cj7ox on March 13, 2023, 03:38:10 PM
Post by: Flyin6 on March 13, 2023, 04:35:40 PM
That's pretty much what I average.OK, so I'm in with the rest of the herd.
I was hoping I'd see a bit more, but in all actuality, getting 18mpg from a 8K+ truck is pretty OK.
Post by: JR on March 13, 2023, 05:01:48 PM
Post by: Bob Smith on March 13, 2023, 10:42:51 PM
Post by: Flyin6 on March 14, 2023, 09:14:27 AM
That is true but…. When you hook up a load it just doesn’t matter the fuel mileage as much as the push down on the pedal and head up the hill that matters.Absolutely.
I'm giving my truck a little time to break in before subjecting it to the loads it will encounter at the farm. I still have the D-Max truck, so I am using that still to pull loads. Once I have a thousand or so miles on the Ram, I'll start pulling around 6K-7K for a while. Later on, I'll give it the full treatment of pulling 17K+
Post by: Nate on March 14, 2023, 09:52:49 AM
Post by: Flyin6 on March 14, 2023, 12:04:13 PM
so have you used your new trailer, slv97, forestry head / bucket to do any actual paid work?Not paid. I have done work for free, and have some more to do yet before I feel comfortable enough to charge for my work.
And
I don't feel right charging my neighbors for anything.
Finally, I did not feel comfortable hooking my d-max 2500 to a load which would be so obviously well over its towing limits.
Post by: Flyin6 on April 08, 2023, 04:39:48 PM
First: 18.6
Second: 19.14
Creeping upward?
Had a brief conversation with Duane last night. He owns what is essentially an identical truck. He did a recent trip delivering a 12-valve engine to a builder in Indiana. The total trip was 350 miles and he reports that driving 60-65 he got an actual 28 MPG!
Edit: 27 MPG
Post by: Dustoff35 on April 08, 2023, 07:45:00 PM
Post by: Flyin6 on April 09, 2023, 11:30:38 AM
and
27 mpg is outstanding!
Post by: KensAuto on April 14, 2023, 01:10:07 PM
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Post by: JR on April 14, 2023, 01:51:52 PM
Post by: Flyin6 on April 14, 2023, 09:38:43 PM
By comparison, I pulled over 100 miles today with the D max and got 14.5 pulling I would estimate 6500 lbs.
Post by: JR on April 15, 2023, 01:44:46 AM
Post by: Dustoff35 on April 16, 2023, 05:00:03 PM
These new 6.7 Cummins engines are amazing. Very low RPM power. Like cruising around at 1300 RPM.
By comparison, I pulled over 100 miles today with the D max and got 14.5 pulling I would estimate 6500 lbs.
1300 rpm seems to be the optimal rpm for fuel economy, which is somewhere between 60 and 65 mph. With the stock 3.73 gearing, no lift and the OEM LGBQTires.
Post by: JR on April 16, 2023, 05:34:13 PM
Post by: Flyin6 on April 16, 2023, 06:07:21 PM
Big tires and lifts are not for the mileage crowd.Which, for me, is why this one is staying more or less as purchased...
Post by: JR on April 16, 2023, 07:43:08 PM
Post by: stlaser on April 16, 2023, 11:13:55 PM
Give it time,,,,,,,,,,,,
My f250 6.7L isn’t getting a lift or bigger tires. It’s fine as is for its duties.
Post by: Dustoff35 on April 17, 2023, 07:36:19 AM
Big tires and lifts are not for the mileage crowd.Which, for me, is why this one is staying more or less as purchased...
Okay…
Post by: Dustoff35 on April 17, 2023, 07:43:06 AM
Post by: Flyin6 on April 17, 2023, 10:58:39 AM
But
May be saving my pennies for a V8 swap into the Jeep-truck ;-)
Post by: Dustoff35 on April 20, 2023, 05:09:23 AM
Post by: TexasRedNeck on April 20, 2023, 06:36:16 AM
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Post by: Flyin6 on April 20, 2023, 01:52:35 PM
Do it DonWanna get banned...again??
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;-)
Post by: Sammconn on April 20, 2023, 02:31:08 PM
Since your Jeep-truck is done, you might as well order up one of these from Tate. We could do a side-by-side install.
These parts are all black and blue, so clearly made for your truck Don...
Kind of match your color scheme...
:shocked:
Post by: Flyin6 on April 20, 2023, 03:50:16 PM
You too!Since your Jeep-truck is done, you might as well order up one of these from Tate. We could do a side-by-side install.
These parts are all black and blue, so clearly made for your truck Don...
Kind of match your color scheme...
:shocked:
Seriously, I had high hopes for you Sam!
Falling in with the likes of the Texas Red Neck!
Where have I failed these people?
;-)
Post by: Flyin6 on April 20, 2023, 03:52:23 PM
Seems as though that picture does not include the farm
Should that go, then I'd expect to see a Chevy LT in the Jeep, and something else done to the Ram, along with a 70 SS LS6 Chevelle...Red with black stripes please...
Post by: cj7ox on April 20, 2023, 04:05:06 PM
Post by: Sammconn on April 20, 2023, 04:59:02 PM
Sorry boss, but every now and then I see the logic, and this one comes to you color matched already!You too!Since your Jeep-truck is done, you might as well order up one of these from Tate. We could do a side-by-side install.
These parts are all black and blue, so clearly made for your truck Don...
Kind of match your color scheme...
:shocked:
Seriously, I had high hopes for you Sam!
Falling in with the likes of the Texas Red Neck!
Where have I failed these people?
;-)
Post by: Flyin6 on April 20, 2023, 07:41:31 PM
@ $7K for the purdy stuff, all I'd have to add to the list is a divorce! (For another estimated $100+K)Sorry boss, but every now and then I see the logic, and this one comes to you color matched already!You too!Since your Jeep-truck is done, you might as well order up one of these from Tate. We could do a side-by-side install.
These parts are all black and blue, so clearly made for your truck Don...
Kind of match your color scheme...
:shocked:
Seriously, I had high hopes for you Sam!
Falling in with the likes of the Texas Red Neck!
Where have I failed these people?
;-)
Post by: Flyin6 on April 20, 2023, 07:42:56 PM
So, Don, how big a tire can you fit under that truck without a lift? My '06 3500 will fit a 35 without rubbing. I currently run 285/75R17 on the stock rims, which measure right at 34" using a tape measure.Dunno Sean.
I'm probably just going back with the stock size when the time arrives.
These stockers are pretty tall as is.
Tall enough to make getting into and out of the truck a hassle.
Post by: Flyin6 on April 29, 2023, 09:52:24 PM
Cool concept
The top piece protrudes a little making it, effectively, a step. The bottom electrically extends when the door is opened
$1623 to the door
https://realtruck.com/p/aries-actiontrac-powered-running-boards/v/ram/truck-3500/2022/