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Title: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: Bigdave_185 on January 12, 2020, 11:37:36 PM
Converting my enclosed trailer into a camp trailer.

To start (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200113/50cf753ead4f3fba9c58200cce07f6a9.jpg)
Purchased a bare bones enclosed trailer nothing special
Six lug axles for a 6k haul capacity
Some Led lights on the outside and a man door

Next was develop a list of needs and a list of wants

Need:
Ability to haul all associated bikes n quads, future SXS maybe
Beds for 6 minimum
       Mom n dad
       Twins n older brother
       Plus 1
Heat
Air conditioning
Running water


Wants:
      Solar
      Toilet
      Shower
      Carpeted area

So for the most part this will be pretty bare bones and when the boys and Dad go play we will take this and when momma goes or gets more into it look for future fifth wheel toy hauler combo. 

I started out by adding some floor hooks to haul stuff, than as previous posts showed it got loaned out and was very displeased with the way it was returned. Me and Momma decided to build as previously planned and make it a whole lot less usable for others.   So here we are.....





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Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: Bigdave_185 on January 12, 2020, 11:47:40 PM
As of this last week
Purchased 16 sheets of

https://www.homedepot.com/p/R-Tech-1-in-x-4-ft-x-8-ft-R-3-85-Insulating-Sheathing-320821/202532854

I pulled all of the 1/2 ply from the walls so that I could put insulation between the wall studs.
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The first side of the trailer I used a long razor knife and a straight edge and it took forever!!
Second night I brought home the shop trailer and used our table saw which made real short work of this.

I pre measured each stud height and width and labeled each gap so I could see from outside the trailer and got ripping sheets into sizes that fit snug,    I slipped the insulation behind the S shape Chanel and used the exterior screws poking through to hold her in place.  Press fit for a tight fit.

I added some duct tape to the studs but I figure it was mostly a waste and won’t continue. 

So far I can’t get my laptop to work so I can’t draw a picture of what I would like to do.   I’ll work on it.   

Basic idea is up front with some built in cabinets. A water tank under the front cabinet below the sink. A plug in fridge/ cooler and a shower and toilet up front also

More to follow unless I get out a pen and paper lol. Stupid laptop and solid works won’t open.




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Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: Bigdave_185 on January 12, 2020, 11:49:24 PM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200113/53349470cd0b18c3c86fb317ea7998d6.jpg)

Only a few more studs to go.   



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Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: Flyin6 on January 13, 2020, 11:21:35 AM
Interesting...
Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: stlaser on January 13, 2020, 12:10:27 PM
$5?
Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: Flyin6 on January 13, 2020, 12:47:01 PM
$5?
A little early, but what the hay, I'll give ya $10! ;-)
Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: Bigdave_185 on January 13, 2020, 01:06:30 PM
I have since previous sale of favorite ATV that I will no longer be a seller of my stuff. Just accrue more and more.   Sorry boys not for sale.  But it will fit a big jeep when finished lol. Offer still stands mr stlaser


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Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: Bigdave_185 on January 13, 2020, 10:51:01 PM
I have two of the three windows

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200114/890eef17df52f419fb78f483e604f5cc.jpg)

These will go approximately centered over the wheel well n each side of the trailer.  Not sure on the height but I plan on measuring my dinner table and adding a few inches to that. 
 


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Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: stlaser on January 13, 2020, 10:57:42 PM
I have since previous sale of favorite ATV that I will no longer be a seller of my stuff. Just accrue more and more.   Sorry boys not for sale.  But it will fit a big jeep when finished lol. Offer still stands mr stlaser


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Dave, send me a serious offer and we can talk but I’ll tell you there is already an offer of $26k that I have yet to accept from a local gentleman. In fairness I asked him to let me finish it properly first then we can talk.

Nice windows btw  :likebutton:
Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: Bigdave_185 on January 13, 2020, 11:08:35 PM
I am long ways away from a Jeep but I’ll bet getting with you when we reach that point.

Trailer got moved up the priority list to now, pay off the truck, finish landscape, than look at options on fancy RV, fancy SXS, momma a new vehicle

So from that point I will push a Jeep instead of sxs and go that direction


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Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: stlaser on January 13, 2020, 11:28:15 PM
 :likebutton: We’ll be here, if you’re going to spend the money might as well build it to suite.
Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: Bigdave_185 on January 14, 2020, 10:25:57 PM
Windows are all delivered today

Received a amazon special reverse light today

Nilight NI06A-72W 12Inch 12 Inch 72W Spot Flood Combo Bar Off Road Boat Driving Led Work Light SUV Jeep Lamp,2 Years Warranty https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00WE46ZWC/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_YSLhEbK34M4WB

Decent reviews and for $19 I can’t replace it a time or two for little $


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Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: Bigdave_185 on January 15, 2020, 10:29:19 PM
Ordered steel for the window frames today.  Should show up in a day or so for pickup.  Received my spray adhesive from my work supplier. 11 lb tank of glue plus a spray gun  to apply the future carpet in the walls


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Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: Flyin6 on January 16, 2020, 10:35:12 AM
Hmmm...You just gave me an idea...
Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: Bigdave_185 on January 16, 2020, 11:13:26 AM
Well ya can’t just leave it like that knuckle head. What is it


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Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: KensAuto on January 16, 2020, 11:15:35 AM
Well ya can’t just leave it like that knuckle head. What is it


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Shag? Don is from that era.
Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: Sammconn on January 16, 2020, 11:16:30 AM
Well ya can’t just leave it like that knuckle head. What is it


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Shag? Don is from that era.
Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: Bigdave_185 on January 16, 2020, 11:16:31 AM
Glue set up
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200116/560d288aa8b3cbae72f2afd64a458846.jpg)


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Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: Flyin6 on January 16, 2020, 11:26:22 AM
Carper over my wheel wells on the inside, maybe some other irregular spots...maybe

BTW

A long time ago, I owned N7621E, a 1960 Piper Comanche 250

When I first purchased it, the earlier guy had some psychedelic shag carpet inside. It would cause the pilot to have vertigo if you looked down...was my first change to that airplane.
Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: Bigdave_185 on January 16, 2020, 12:03:50 PM
Maybe you should line the top of the trailer with some tie die shag!!

I tell ya what. I will if you do?


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Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: Flyin6 on January 16, 2020, 09:23:24 PM
Maybe you should line the top of the trailer with some tie die shag!!

I tell ya what. I will if you do?


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Not going there!

Don't like shag carpet

Don't like tie dyed anything

Don't like hippies

who

gravitate to the above mentioned things
Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: stlaser on January 16, 2020, 09:42:39 PM
Do you like sandals? I mean most people like sandals right?  :popcorn:
Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: Flyin6 on January 16, 2020, 10:28:03 PM
Do you like sandals? I mean most people like sandals right?  :popcorn:
Sandals were first used by the Roman legionaries who conquered most of europe. They were made popular during the Alpine campaign when romans would ski down the snowy slopes easily overtaking their opponents by using special sandal extensions. Henceforth the sandal has become the preferred footwear of warriors everywhere.

Girly Men who secretly admire the warrior try and imitate them by wearing the footwear and attempting to act tough. They have never been able to pull off either, and therefore the sandal was also often used to kick the girly-boy in the hind quarters. That tradition has lasted to this very day, although since girly boys now hide in safe places, the sport of hippie-kickin' has become less commonplace

Bet you didn't know any of that!
Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: stlaser on January 16, 2020, 11:21:24 PM
Nope, bet you didn’t know my BS meter was pegged while reading the whole thing too....  :tongue:
Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: Flyin6 on January 17, 2020, 08:55:17 AM
 :tongue: :laugh: :cool: :likebutton:
Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: Bigdave_185 on January 17, 2020, 10:23:15 PM
Reverse light works pretty well
For a motorcycle battery power source
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200118/a8320e7a2eafb824d561edab9f6e4a28.mov)


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Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: Bigdave_185 on January 23, 2020, 11:15:34 PM
Late night with @arkstrkr building my window frames

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Built the horizontal supports long so I can trim as needed to position in the non consistent spacing on the wall support/studs. 
Install next week after our trip to Portland


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Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: JR on January 25, 2020, 12:33:20 AM
So what are you putting on the walls. Something you can wipe down and not absorb ATV smell?

Nice so far!
Title: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: Bigdave_185 on January 25, 2020, 03:02:46 AM
Over the years Jr I have noticed the smell of fuel comes and goes.  Turn fuel off before travel and most bikes don’t cause a mess

I plan on carpet on the walls.  A short nap grey carpet for sound deadening and it won’t scratch


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Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: JR on January 25, 2020, 03:23:29 AM
When I started mine, I had the fiberglass sheet. Never finished it.

I used the same foam, simple.
Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: Bigdave_185 on January 29, 2020, 12:43:27 AM
Tonight I got started with the window install.

First with a Bosch laser level I marked from the inside of my trailer where I wanted the windows
I found my center line, my widths and poked a hole to the outside of the trailer for further cutting

Disregard the measurements, they are widths for insulation Is all
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After I turned attention to outside with some masking tape I covered my working area for two reasons.  A place to put a pencil mark and second to not scratch my trailer walls while cutting and measuring

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200129/d74ffb4e54c58ceafac4283dfd82414f.jpg)
I traced my window frame with the help of the wife, I than used the dewalt vibe saw to cut out my aluminum panels along the lines.
If you have never used one of these you should, They are amazing and super helpful.  I had never used one until the cabinet shop, we use them daily and every guy we have hired since has purchased his own for personal use
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I then cut out the studs to check my window frame fit. Again I used my vibe saw. This metal isn’t exactly thin stuff but the all metal blade goes through it. 


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Title: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: Bigdave_185 on January 29, 2020, 12:45:39 AM


When the app stops erroring my photo uploads I’ll add more

But windows cut out
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Now I need to figure out how to move the trailer over two feet sideways in the garage so I can copy the other side.

Thinking some car dolly from ShipWreck Harbor


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Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: JR on January 29, 2020, 02:03:27 AM
Nice. I have 4 of those osculating tools.
Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: Bigdave_185 on January 30, 2020, 11:43:38 PM
Got the window frames welded into place.  Now to seal the window and install glass! (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200131/1012c95aa1befd7a00729142998ad743.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200131/3c447041227de16f9d5ecca62ff4e2c1.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200131/3f77b85dfee5f6ab6ba174732d3a0a89.jpg)


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Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: stlaser on January 30, 2020, 11:56:17 PM
 :likebutton:
Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: Farmer Jon on January 31, 2020, 06:48:03 AM
I have one of those tools also. I never thought to use it for that. I have one window left to put in the freightliner. I will try it this time. I used a cut off wheel in a die grinder. I looked like the tin man by the time i got done.
Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: stlaser on January 31, 2020, 08:15:54 AM
Dave, use two floor jacks to move it
Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: Bigdave_185 on January 31, 2020, 08:30:21 AM
I ended up squeezing my husky self into a void between the trailer and wall/rack.  It worked out lol.


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Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: TexasRedNeck on January 31, 2020, 08:47:44 AM
Looks good BD.  I need to get one of those saws


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Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: Flyin6 on January 31, 2020, 10:10:26 AM
Shapin' up quick!
Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: Bigdave_185 on January 31, 2020, 11:35:41 AM
Shapin' up quick!
Not gonna lie i feel like it’s takin forever,  the wiring process is going to drive me crazy.     I’ll post a picture of the rat nest under my brake battery.   I need to do something about it


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Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: Bigdave_185 on February 02, 2020, 10:56:12 AM
I did get Shawn’s pink insulation installed but I promptly covered it up as to not look any less manly

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I thought I took a photo of it all installed in the ramp door but I guess I am wrong




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Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: Bigdave_185 on February 02, 2020, 09:05:40 PM
Well.... window number one is installed.   No sure I like this process but.... it’s in

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Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: Bigdave_185 on February 10, 2020, 10:41:43 PM
Tonight I am testing my epoxy I have had for a long time.  Long time enough I had to call an old friend who laughed at me for trying this

But this is the grand daddy epoxy to what Don put on his trailer.  His stuff is more user friendly.  Less temperamental, maybe cost less than what he purchased but if it works I save $500 easy.   

Mixed up both part A and part B with separate mixers, pour each measured amount to keep my 2-1 mix ration. Cross my fingers it cures 100 solid in the cup in 12 hrs.  Cures on the test board at about 15 mils also.   
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Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: Bigdave_185 on February 10, 2020, 10:41:52 PM
Bottoms up as it were


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Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: Bigdave_185 on February 11, 2020, 11:11:03 AM
As of last night at 11pm. The cup was hot enough I couldn’t hold it, the rolled out sample was still wet.

Fast forward to today at 7:00 the cup was hard as a rock
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200211/759f832f407fe305e31b08e41d7fe529.jpg)

Now to locate some primer and I’ll be in business for a self leveling epoxy floor for my trailer,


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Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: JR on February 11, 2020, 11:15:09 AM
For the floor?
Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: Bigdave_185 on February 11, 2020, 01:00:07 PM
For the floor,


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Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: JR on February 11, 2020, 01:13:23 PM
For the floor,


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Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: Bigdave_185 on February 11, 2020, 01:34:42 PM
Should be able to get 30 mills of coverage.

Primer, epoxy, maybe a second coat of epoxy.   Time will tell when we get there


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Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: Bob Smith on February 11, 2020, 07:22:44 PM
herding cattle through that thing are you
Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: Bigdave_185 on February 11, 2020, 09:33:39 PM
Are you callin me fat .

Just kidding.   Just need to make it thick enough the flex of the wood will not crack the floor epoxy


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Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: TexasRedNeck on February 12, 2020, 09:35:52 AM
Iirc there is some specific time for recoat to make sure the second coat adheres.


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Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: Bigdave_185 on February 12, 2020, 11:42:32 AM
Yep it’s a 24 hr recoat unless scuff sanded.  I’ll do it this Friday eve and Saturday eve. If anything goes off I can fix Sunday


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Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: Bigdave_185 on February 14, 2020, 12:31:56 AM
Sanded the whole floor tonight with 180 grit paper, let the shop dust settle and I’ll vacuum the floor tomorrow after some patch on the floor for the no longer used strap points.   Removing 4 of the strap points in the front of the trailer because cabinets and bathroom will block any use of them.

Filing holes in the bottom of the trailer with some 1/2 inch ply on the bottom to hold in the bondo and slug that I’ll cut out from 3/4 inch ply. Bondo and sand smooth.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200214/ee904e5f4764acca11988fcff7ec88d0.jpg)
I also need to fill in all of the screw holes from the snowmobile track things my buddy used to keep from scaring the trailer floor, that didn’t work but I fixed it now.




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Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: stlaser on February 14, 2020, 07:35:24 AM
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Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: Bigdave_185 on February 15, 2020, 01:13:36 AM
Poured down about three gallons (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200215/d557604cd2ee403b417a7ef8d91b7089.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200215/7ba9becf29d215a6003ddc7156b19efb.jpg)


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Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: Flyin6 on February 15, 2020, 09:53:28 AM
Dave, what is that? Some floor epoxy?
Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: Bigdave_185 on February 15, 2020, 10:08:06 AM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200215/e38946fda9f14d0bc75a35f2ff925a92.jpg)

Don it’s the older version of what you used on the tanks and everywhere else you had a flat surface, just some pour down self leveling epoxy. 

As of this morning is looks good. Still a little soft but by tonight should be good to go for a second coat with

https://www.hcconcrete.com/product/sharkgrip/

Applied



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Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: Flyin6 on February 15, 2020, 11:13:05 AM
OK, copy that

Mine also took days to fully harden. But now I am walking on that water tank lid every day and it shows zero wear. It seems to be pretty good stuff.

Good choice!
Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: Bigdave_185 on February 15, 2020, 11:32:54 AM
We used this stuff in hospitals to Air Force bases, Hill Airforce base here in ogden does a bunch or plane repair and reprints.  In another life we had the contract for most of the building paint and epoxys.   We used this stuff there also.  Bullet proof tec.   

Now they have stuff that cures under a UV light.  You actually push a lawnmower type machine that has lights under it.   It cures as you walk the floor.    Instant use product types

https://youtu.be/1D0-r_3RjiU


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Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: Flyin6 on February 15, 2020, 11:41:19 AM
We used this stuff in hospitals to Air Force bases, Hill Airforce base here in ogden does a bunch or plane repair and reprints.  In another life we had the contract for most of the building paint and epoxys.   We used this stuff there also.  Bullet proof tec.   

Now they have stuff that cures under a UV light.  You actually push a lawnmower type machine that has lights under it.   It cures as you walk the floor.    Instant use product types

https://youtu.be/1D0-r_3RjiU


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I know that stuff, I have a mouth full of it

Well used in the dental world
Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: Nate on February 15, 2020, 11:48:56 AM
dave, are you still working at the construction company or did you mosey on over to some other place?
Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: Bigdave_185 on February 15, 2020, 03:45:50 PM
Yeah I am still under the construction company umbrella,  we opened our own cabinet shop to do our custom homes and a few other builders, currently building a reception desk for Weber State University

 




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Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: Bigdave_185 on February 16, 2020, 01:59:19 AM
I applied the second coat of paint tonight, I spaced mixing in the non slip additive until I was shoes off, roller in the garbage and ready for a drink...... so I pulled all that back together and fed the ducks so to speak to apply the grit.  Back rolled the now extra sticky epoxy.... three hours later it flattened back out and only The lord knows if it was enough to work. 

Tomorrow I’ll tell


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Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: Bigdave_185 on February 16, 2020, 02:56:10 PM
Today with much luck the epoxy was dry, on to the next step! Wall covering!!

To the local HD to pick up 30 yards of the outdoor carpet stuff.   Using the spray glue previously shown.  I masked off windows and floor and ceiling so to not cover everything in glue.  Rolled carpet into the garage floor and sprayed it also.  The is glue bonds with its self so don’t let it touch is the name of the game.  All in all one side done and I am pleased with it.

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Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: JR on February 16, 2020, 03:29:25 PM
Looks pretty good. Foam sheet for the roof?
Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: Bigdave_185 on February 16, 2020, 04:05:50 PM
Yes,  ordered some 1/4 alder sheeting.  When I get that stuff stained and sprayed I’ll instal the foam insulation on the roof and then follow the alder, led light pucks and go from there


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Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: Bigdave_185 on February 16, 2020, 07:51:12 PM
And like that she is on to the plumbing and electrical and cabinets
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Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: Flyin6 on February 16, 2020, 08:45:17 PM
Nice work Dave!
Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: TexasRedNeck on February 18, 2020, 06:30:27 AM
Looks pretty slick. Nice work.


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Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: KensAuto on February 18, 2020, 08:28:44 PM
Clean work Dave.
Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: Bigdave_185 on February 19, 2020, 01:12:05 AM
The transport brought my roof material, the managed to break two of the seven 1/4 inch alder panels with the fork lift.  I should be Able to start spraying those tomorrow or the next day


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Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: Bigdave_185 on February 20, 2020, 09:54:16 PM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200221/46bc85d2ec56d42328e799510af642cf.jpg)

Roof panels



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Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: stlaser on February 21, 2020, 08:06:12 AM
Going to look sweet  :likebutton:
Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: Flyin6 on February 21, 2020, 09:01:58 AM
I Frikin' A-Prove

Nice!
Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: Bigdave_185 on March 15, 2020, 08:21:27 PM
Trailer insulated and complete!
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Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: stlaser on March 15, 2020, 08:58:12 PM
 :likebutton:
Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: TexasRedNeck on March 15, 2020, 09:53:43 PM
Still gonna put the poplar panels on the roof?


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Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: Nate on March 15, 2020, 10:27:18 PM
How much weight do you honestly think you have added to the weight of the trailer?

And are you thinking that you may need to upgrade to bigger axle's because of the weight currently/planned added?
Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: JR on March 15, 2020, 10:52:44 PM
Unless he puts something real heavy in there, the 6k rating should be fine.
Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: Bigdave_185 on March 15, 2020, 11:47:58 PM
Like Jr. Said it’s 6k should be a long ways off, only adding a 100lbs of sheeting maybe, the cabinets 75 each (5) plus the shower and potty    I think the largest thing to go inside will be my dirtbikes.    Built to fit a rzr but I hope to not make that a thing at my house.   

I’ll for sure give it a weight when finished and if I had to guess. The axles are fine but I second guess the flooring honestly.


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Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: Bigdave_185 on March 27, 2020, 11:12:22 PM
Turned this (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200328/96ac52ba333d07b626706f058c15c1e9.jpg)
Into this

https://youtu.be/W1DI_Yc41xo

Tried a sawzall at first but boy did that take forever

Grabbed the grinder and cut the slide out motor parts, took the plow and drug the slide out off

Tomorrow we will clean up the mess


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Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: stlaser on March 27, 2020, 11:37:06 PM
Dave drinks whiskey to keep wutang at bay then gets mean and nasty with the rv turning back yard into war zone......

Film at 11  :tongue:
Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: Sammconn on March 28, 2020, 11:00:38 AM
Wow that escalated quickly.
Went all Sanford and Son on the back yard now...
And now the meth lab is ruined.
Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: stlaser on March 28, 2020, 11:06:55 AM
Reminds me of that episode from breaking bad when they demolished the rv lab
Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: Sammconn on March 28, 2020, 11:12:44 AM
Yes, was seeing the demo, couldn’t name the show.
Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: Flyin6 on March 28, 2020, 11:40:57 AM
That looks like some of the targets we serviced !

Good work
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Post by: Bigdave_185 on March 28, 2020, 04:03:33 PM
And just like that
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Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: Bigdave_185 on March 28, 2020, 04:04:25 PM
I left the toilet because I want to see how that is all connected, momma refused to keep and use a used pooper but I’ll get some rubber gloves and learn a thing or too


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Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: Bigdave_185 on March 28, 2020, 05:36:24 PM
Shawn does this help?

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Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: stlaser on March 28, 2020, 06:53:57 PM
Definitely fits
Title: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: Bigdave_185 on May 05, 2020, 10:10:51 PM
Got some trailer parts in today


http://www.macscustomtiedowns.com/
Picked these up for an clean price, polished them for my fancy self

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I have eight of these and 16 hook points for the bikes and other things. 

Super happy with how they turned out, just need to install

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Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: Nate on May 05, 2020, 10:18:00 PM
Where and how are you going to install them?
Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: Bigdave_185 on May 05, 2020, 10:30:00 PM
They will go on the back of the trailer,  I have always ran bikes right to left, so I’ll put  4 and 4 on each side of the trailer next to the wall, front tires push against the wall and the straps to each corner.

I’ll post a photo tomorrow if I get to it.   Should look killer against the epoxy floor


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Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: Nate on May 05, 2020, 11:07:39 PM
I am interested
Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: JR on May 06, 2020, 12:04:33 AM
You should leave the toilet on there and add a roll holder and mag rack.
Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: EL TATE on May 06, 2020, 10:01:00 AM
Got some trailer parts in today


http://www.macscustomtiedowns.com/
Picked these up for an clean price, polished them for my fancy self

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200506/c3ccf56c8dc640ed8f84ea6a1135ae5d.jpg)
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I have eight of these and 16 hook points for the bikes and other things. 

Super happy with how they turned out, just need to install

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what'd you use for polishing, media and tools?
Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: KensAuto on May 06, 2020, 10:15:23 AM
I like the stairs leading to the throne look. I'm sure there's an HBO series there somewhere.
Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: Bigdave_185 on May 06, 2020, 10:45:44 AM
Tate,
I have a grandpa W hand me down bluepoint bench grinder,  I used the basic polishing compounds for hard spiral stitched six inch buffing pad.


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Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: EL TATE on May 06, 2020, 10:52:24 AM
TY sir. I have some boat pieces I wanted to clean up and didn't want to waste time/money with a bunch of different compounds
Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: Bigdave_185 on May 06, 2020, 11:02:36 AM
Are your parts chrome or stainless or aluminum?


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Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: EL TATE on May 06, 2020, 11:49:36 AM
Cast alum.
Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: Bigdave_185 on May 06, 2020, 09:12:41 PM
For sure a buffer wheel on a bench grinder will do well


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Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: EL TATE on May 07, 2020, 10:54:37 AM
Thx again.
Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: Bigdave_185 on May 17, 2020, 10:28:51 PM
Ok trailer reassembled!!

Ps short wife’s are not for overhead work


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Next up.   The reason I pulled the trailer out!  My Macs custom tie down anchor points

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Should work out with one exception.  I didn’t count goodernuff and I am short two sets of anchor mounts so I’ll be ordering again


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Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: Bigdave_185 on June 27, 2020, 05:29:19 PM
Today I cut and installed my unistrut for the per frame to raise up and down in. 

Going for three heights

One for travel, one for bikes loaded and needing to sleep.

Third height is for longer stays lots lower to the ground

I have 94 inches side to side.  So I’ll see about a wood box for storage next to the mattress

Building for a kid size mattress


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Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: Bigdave_185 on June 27, 2020, 05:29:49 PM
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Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: Bigdave_185 on January 06, 2021, 06:30:59 PM
I finally decided I wasn’t waiting on the fabricator to help me with the bed for my trailer,   I ordered steel and will be getting some light welder practice in here real soon

Ordered 70’ of 1x3 square tube and should be able to make do with some other material I have laying around

I have some gear parts coming also next week

The plan is to build the bed so that it has a cable system to pull it up right against the ceiling.  I have a envision in my brain and we will see how it turns out



I’ll see if I can get out my color pencils and draw something that might make sense

Steel is here
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Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: Bigdave_185 on January 09, 2021, 08:57:12 PM
Today I rolled out the Mig and started making things to look like a way over built bed frame.

1x3 square tube 45degree corners, three cross braces and welded 100% around     Heavier then I can move on my own. 

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Took a min to get the welder set but once we did and turned off the over head fans I was good to go.   


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Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: Bigdave_185 on January 12, 2021, 08:01:11 PM
https://youtu.be/WL8hLEvCLGA


Ok folks what say yeah



I am not sold on his motor/drive location it makes it more complicated.


I want to stay drill powered.


I want to move the drive above the bed at the top of the unistrut and pull them two cables around the bed

Follow Cable route

Drive motor.  Down wall> pulley and under the bed > pulley and up the wall to a fixed spot on the other side of the unistrut


I’m concerned the bed will lift in even

I don’t know if that causes a problem but it will mess with the OCD for sure


Other idea is move motor to middle under bed frame end attach cable at the top of unistrut in four corners following the same pulley structure.

Then build a box to hide the motor stuff


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Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: stlaser on January 12, 2021, 08:05:19 PM
Welds look good  :likebutton:
Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: Bigdave_185 on January 12, 2021, 10:10:12 PM
This is what I have brainstormed on one idea

Pardon my pencil drawing

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I also have another option of building the bed frame with more guides In the unistrut     Instead of four pulleys on one cable.  Use two but have four guides in the unistrut so the bed can’t travel one side of the other without moving


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Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: Bigdave_185 on January 24, 2021, 12:33:13 AM
Some more progress till the helper cut the last long straight for a small scrap instead of using the small scrap. 

Left me two inches short of material

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Tonight’s goal was to get the foot and head of the bed frames in,   I didn’t finish due to the material shortage

Note the recessed pulleys ?

Slick huh?


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Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: KensAuto on January 24, 2021, 11:16:55 AM
Looks good Dave.
...but. I think you're in for a lifetime of trying to make it work, reliably, and safely (heavy). Might be 10 times easier to have one side attached solid. More like a Murphy bed. You'll obviously lose some space, but would sure be more reliable. Not trying to be negative. Just an opinion.
Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: Flyin6 on January 24, 2021, 11:31:49 AM
...That is slick!
Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: Bigdave_185 on January 24, 2021, 12:27:23 PM
Looks good Dave.
...but. I think you're in for a lifetime of trying to make it work, reliably, and safely (heavy). Might be 10 times easier to have one side attached solid. More like a Murphy bed. You'll obviously lose some space, but would sure be more reliable. Not trying to be negative. Just an opinion.
I would lend to your thoughts if I haven’t seen it work many times before with other folks.   

Various ideas on how to get it to lift but  all the same general idea. 

I think it’s about 200lbs now plus add the mattress,   I might drill some speed holes into the frame to cut back on weight lol.


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Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: JR on January 24, 2021, 12:30:30 PM
Long as it rides level it should work OK. Beds in my TH are chain driven.
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Post by: KensAuto on January 24, 2021, 04:54:24 PM
Looks good Dave.
...but. I think you're in for a lifetime of trying to make it work, reliably, and safely (heavy). Might be 10 times easier to have one side attached solid. More like a Murphy bed. You'll obviously lose some space, but would sure be more reliable. Not trying to be negative. Just an opinion.
I would lend to your thoughts if I haven’t seen it work many times before with other folks.   

Various ideas on how to get it to lift but  all the same general idea. 

I think it’s about 200lbs now plus add the mattress,   I might drill some speed holes into the frame to cut back on weight lol.


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Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: TexasRedNeck on January 24, 2021, 08:09:54 PM
Dave looking good. Maybe I’m not able to tell from the illustration but is there a corresponding slot/track frame on the sides of the trailer for the rack to ride on in addition to the cable for lifting?


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Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: Bigdave_185 on January 24, 2021, 08:21:58 PM
Charles,

Yes I have four vertical unistrut bars that run floor to ceiling that I have bearings to go in.

I’m going to have 8 bearings in the unistrut that will control up and down and should keep the frame level as it rises


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Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: JR on January 24, 2021, 09:22:41 PM
I have seen small elevators and overhead racks made with those. Nice options!
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Post by: Bigdave_185 on January 30, 2021, 07:35:01 PM
Well the pillow blocks won’t work
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Going to change to the flat mount anyway with a larger diameter ID

Got the drive shaft widened out today  also
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Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: Bigdave_185 on February 07, 2021, 03:37:54 PM
Got the other side of the bed frame on today,  also cut the bearing supports to fit

Need to go scratch up a drill press so I get good repeatable holes

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I’ll get that quad out of the garage this week, pull the trailer back in and set in place for further mock up of the cables

Need to order cable also lol


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Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: Bigdave_185 on February 07, 2021, 05:54:06 PM
Got all of my welds that are easy to get to ground down, then hit with 150 g on an orbital.  That way powder coat looks clean.

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Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: Flyin6 on February 07, 2021, 07:12:25 PM
Nice work
Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: Bigdave_185 on February 10, 2021, 02:25:42 PM
Got the frame set in place in the trailer,   It fits with a decent amount of room to spare for fab and installing the bearings

Need to figure out how to do a few things here

The cable routing

The bearing locations

How to get the bearings in the unistrut

Build some plates at the top of the bed to hold the drive axle
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Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: JR on February 10, 2021, 02:31:14 PM
Now that it is built I think the only way to get the bearings in are the ends normally. Maybe cut slots in the top and slide in there?

Many beds like that have a fold out bench or one incorporated. Great for hanging out with extra seating.
Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: Bigdave_185 on February 10, 2021, 02:48:30 PM
I was thinking notching it with the grinder and splitting it in from the bottom

The bearings will bolt onto the bed so I won’t need completely tear the bed apart to get it out.


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Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: JR on February 10, 2021, 04:13:37 PM
The bearings are nice, singles and doubles and have some good load ratings. Getting them into the uni is the trick.
Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: Nate on February 10, 2021, 06:18:20 PM
dave, i see 1 of your 2 hounds in the picture and it made me think about how your sick one is doing?  is he better now?
Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: Bigdave_185 on February 10, 2021, 06:36:47 PM
That’s a good question Nate

My mastiff is doing pretty ok,   Had to nix the tomato’s as that’s one thing he is major allergic to, I’ll post his allergy chart

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The chart reads red for his allergy’s, the closer to 100 they don’t highlight but will cause him issues. So his diet is greatly monitored.  The places he plays and people who I let him be with.

He gets shots weekly to reduce his reactions

He goes up and down on prednisone and multiple types of allergy meds, antibiotics also

Vet says he will have a shortened life due to his meds but it’s better then a mess of infection he is in otherwise

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Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: Bigdave_185 on March 06, 2021, 08:32:01 PM
Ok ok picture dump

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I didn’t like bolting the bearings to the angle so I scrubbed that idea

To much thinking involved

So I made the angle to bolt to the frame then I can tac weld the bearings to the angle as centered off a tape measure.

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Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: Bigdave_185 on March 07, 2021, 02:28:44 PM
This is my plan to attach the drive system

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I’ll bolt this onto the plate, then weld the plate onto the bed frame side. The only thing is the amount of wacks to the forehead I’ll get be use this will need to hang down a few inches for the drive shaft to clear everything
The pillow block will be similar on the other side of the bed frame.

Off to the hardware store to get some nutz n boltz to attach


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Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: Bigdave_185 on March 07, 2021, 06:42:56 PM
Well here is where I close today


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Looks like I’m waiting on the cable to run and we will be all set.

Powder coat and on to the plumbing portion of this project

Black and grey tanks on the underside, shower and Ped toilet,


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Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: TexasRedNeck on March 08, 2021, 06:36:55 AM
Electric or are you manually raising the bed?


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Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: Bigdave_185 on March 08, 2021, 09:20:23 AM
Cheating I’m using a electric drill

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This is a gear reduction box,  not sure what the reduction is but somewhere in the 1:5   I’ll count it today and see


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Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: Bigdave_185 on March 09, 2021, 06:17:01 PM
Today I got the turnbuckles on, cable ran and gave it a go. 

She works
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Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: Bigdave_185 on March 09, 2021, 10:14:59 PM
https://youtube.com/shorts/T57HIWi1q-c


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Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: KensAuto on March 10, 2021, 08:43:51 AM
Pretty slick!
Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: stlaser on March 10, 2021, 11:59:36 AM
Pretty slick!

Ken, don’t even think about it. That type of system won’t hold your GF H.......  :tongue:
Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: Bigdave_185 on March 10, 2021, 12:10:32 PM
By my math I figure I have about 900 lbs minus the 220 frame, 180lb mattress so it would me H Close


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Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: JR on March 10, 2021, 01:27:13 PM
Dave has a channel!!
Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: Bigdave_185 on March 10, 2021, 03:52:45 PM
Dave has a few videos he has uploaded to YouTube.   Many have disappeared for who knows why but... yeah


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Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: Bigdave_185 on March 21, 2021, 02:58:20 AM
Picked up some batteries for the trailer  this week (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210321/4ddef96e272974686021717063be15ad.jpg)
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Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: Farmer Jon on March 21, 2021, 08:46:19 AM
I need more info on these batteries. Never seen that brand before. I never knew Eaton was in the battery business.
Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: Bigdave_185 on March 21, 2021, 10:39:07 AM
That’s about as much as I have,  I checked google for a cost as of new, a buddy in Florida says they read to be good batteries and the seller said I could bring em back if I had issues or needed wiring help.   

https://www.eaton.com/content/dam/eaton/products/backup-power-ups-surge-it-power-distribution/backup-power-ups/ups-batteries-resources/eaton-12v-390w-battery-brochure-BAT02FXA.pdf


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Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: stlaser on March 21, 2021, 11:02:37 AM
They’re an AGM design so that’s a plus.
Title: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: Bigdave_185 on March 21, 2021, 11:25:10 AM
Absorbed glass mat.  But otherwise I have no idea what that means, I’ll dive down the google hole
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Sounds like good things to me also .


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Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: stlaser on March 21, 2021, 11:29:37 AM
Absorbed glass mat.  But otherwise I have no idea what that means, I’ll dive down the google hole
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Sounds like good things to me also .


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Correct, good for RV’s and the newer cars that have stop / start technology. Just a better battery overall I think.
Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: dave945 on March 21, 2021, 12:05:54 PM
AGM also keeps the risk of acid spills to almost nothing since it isn’t sloshing around inside the battery. They can be also be installed at odd angles because of that.


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Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: JR on March 21, 2021, 03:15:35 PM
No fumes either, can be used and stored around people! I have 3 in my trailer.

So 390w, how many amps? Mine are 100/200 (12v/6v)
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Post by: KensAuto on March 21, 2021, 09:27:12 PM
No fumes either, can be used and stored around people! I have 3 in my trailer.

So 390w, how many amps? Mine are 100/200 (12v/6v)
390 watts per cell x6... about 200 amps total?
Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: Bigdave_185 on March 21, 2021, 10:06:29 PM
You are all well above me on the electric side of this. 


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Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: JR on March 21, 2021, 10:45:17 PM
Thats why I went with auto size batteries. Did you get em used?
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Post by: Bigdave_185 on March 21, 2021, 10:49:34 PM
Yes used.  $40 bucks each


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Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: JR on March 21, 2021, 10:52:48 PM
My two 6v were $50 and the 12v I got new for $160. Long as you go with LED you get a lot of time from 200 amps.

Just for fun, 746 watts is 1 HP, model plane stuff.
Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: Bigdave_185 on March 21, 2021, 11:00:21 PM
So what if I picked up more?   I’m only putting two in my trailer. The other two are for another trailer just to run lights. 

The guy has 120 available

I plan on building a battery box inbetween the axles in the floor



I also want to buy this I think to charge them

Power Inverter 2000w DC 12V to AC 120V Modified Sine Wave Inverter with LCD Display Remote Control 3AC Outlets Dual 2.4A USB Ports for Car RV Truck Boat by VOLTWORKS https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07R511SR8/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_FNQKZH4GXDM2AJ5MAA7V


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Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: JR on March 22, 2021, 12:30:13 AM
Good place for it, but the more batteries, the more connection loss. And if you have a bad one, it can really make the system do wonky things.

Looks like a nice little inverter, should run about anything reasonable.
Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: kampfitt on March 22, 2021, 09:23:05 AM
What your link goes to is just inverter, no charging you need to look at something like this to charge the batteries and supply 120v when not plugged in.
https://www.amazon.com/Renogy-1000Watt-Inverter-Charger-Outlets/dp/B07CZQC22R/ref=sr_1_24?crid=M83VX7ERRILQ&dchild=1&keywords=inverter%2Bcharger%2Bpure%2Bsine%2Bwave&qid=1616419150&sprefix=inverter%2Bcha%2Caps%2C215&sr=8-24&th=1
Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: Bigdave_185 on March 22, 2021, 09:40:18 AM
Pardon.   I have had some input about sine inverters and pure sine inverters

So looking at this and thumbing reviews

Renogy 2000W 12V Pure Sine Wave Battery Converter, ETL Listed with Built-in 5V/2.1A USB port,and AC Hardwire Port Solar Power Inverter https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07H9SXV61/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_299GWR3SVVSJ0P5DQ5ZV?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

And then this to charge and maintain battery charging ?

WFCO WF8955PECB Black 55 Amps Power Center Converter Charger https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004BC59S6/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_5Y80HSQ4F6ZB1CG4V102


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Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: JR on March 22, 2021, 12:40:42 PM
Sine wave is better for your electronics, pure wave vs modified. Lots of info out there on it.

55 amps charger just converts 110 for 12v use, doubt you need 55amps though and not sure if it charges your batteries.

Are you doing solar at all? Neither is a solar controller.
Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: Bigdave_185 on March 22, 2021, 01:04:34 PM
I initially was going to copy what Don did in his trailer,  the first 2000 inverter I posted is what he installed, the other black charger is I think also what he installed


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Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: kampfitt on March 23, 2021, 11:48:08 AM
That WFCO will charge the battery's but they're not known to be the best on the battery life. Something like Progressive Dynamics has really good units, better charge profiles, also look to the future for Lithium Battery's the price keeps coming down and you need less batteries for the same capacity.
Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: JR on March 23, 2021, 02:21:09 PM
Thats were I'm going, lithium.

Almost full discharge, more capacity and way longer life. Price reflects that but for the life of the battery its about the same as AG/wet.
Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: Bigdave_185 on March 23, 2021, 11:23:52 PM
Hit my old friends stereo shop yesterday for some 4guage wire to make my battery cables out of.   I didn’t however order enough lugs and my ego didn’t let me snatch any from his bin. 

But I got three batteries tied together
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Title: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: Bigdave_185 on March 25, 2021, 08:12:42 PM
Well I got mine and my buddies wired in together so I only need one charger to keep them fresh

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Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: TexasRedNeck on March 26, 2021, 10:54:15 PM
.looks slick


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Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: Bigdave_185 on March 31, 2021, 09:57:00 PM
Got the bed frame back from powder coat.   Metallic grey color since I got it all done for $100 because they had some other stuff going the same color.

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Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: JR on March 31, 2021, 11:42:46 PM
Thats a good deal and grey looks good!
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Post by: Flyin6 on April 02, 2021, 11:32:43 AM
That looks professional
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Post by: KensAuto on April 03, 2021, 01:17:52 AM
Good deal and looks nice.
Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: Bigdave_185 on April 04, 2021, 03:01:41 PM
Ok fellas

Successful bed, it rode about 400 miles yesterday with zero hiccups.

Today I cut plywood to fit the frame and now to put the mattress on.

I have about 32” before the mattress goes on in the middle position. With 4’ on the bottom, enough for bikes to be loaded and the bed down to sleep on, no sitting up in bed for sure. But doable
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Then I can lower it again one more time to the bottom position that leaves about two feet off the floor. I envision sliding our moto gear bags under the bed out of the way kinda idea.

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Now to put the king size mattress on the bed


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Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: TexasRedNeck on April 05, 2021, 07:09:51 AM
That turned out nice Dave. Well done.


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Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: Bigdave_185 on April 05, 2021, 07:42:20 AM
Thanks Charles. 


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Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: Bigdave_185 on April 05, 2021, 10:51:26 PM
Another small accomplishment tonight

I have 12v lights powered and one failed ground to fix.

But I have lights

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Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: TexasRedNeck on April 05, 2021, 11:20:36 PM
You adding AC and a portapotty?


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Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: Bigdave_185 on April 05, 2021, 11:25:04 PM
You adding AC and a portapotty?


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No AC in the plan as of yet.

I’ll have a flush toilet, a 3x4 shower, fridge from a Rv, and two burner gas stove, a wash sink and a diesel heater

I would like to install an ac at some point. Above the fridge would be the best location but.... I haven’t got there yet


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Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: TexasRedNeck on April 06, 2021, 08:12:41 AM
Bueno. It won’t take much to cool that space. Even a portable unit you can take with you when you need it would work.


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Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: Bob Smith on April 06, 2021, 11:04:54 AM
Bueno. It won’t take much to cool that space. Even a portable unit you can take with you when you need it would work.


In my opinion, These boxes we call RV’s only have so much room for insulation. They also are heat magnets that take lots of air conditioning to keep cool in warmer temperatures. Lots of areas I have been in, people leave the ac running while they are out and about to be able to get in out of the heat when they get back to the home on wheels.
Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: Bigdave_185 on April 06, 2021, 11:30:49 AM
I figure if it’s that hot I don’t want to be out, the cold I can deal with.

My trailer is insulated really well, I’ll have my floor spray foamed three inches, long down the road but one day


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Title: Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
Post by: JR on April 06, 2021, 12:50:25 PM
Plus that sheet foam is SO much better that soft bat stuff.

If you find shade it helps a lot for AC. My 3000 unit cools my 23ft just fine.
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