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Title: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: BobbyB on November 09, 2014, 09:42:26 PM
This is a pseudo-build/maintenance combo. I bought XJ last year in November, and I really haven't done much to her except maintenance. I had an idea of what I'd like to do, and I'm still working towards it, just remember it isn't going to be as crazy as CMax, and definitely nowhere near as in-depth as D2.

I'm limited in what I'm able to do as it is strictly VERBOTEN to work on vehicles in my apartment complex so a lot of the more "complicated" or multiple step jobs will be done by a guy I work with. He works on vehicles on the side, so if it has to be welded or I'm unable to perform a task, he gets the job.

My end result for XJ would be to have a 3" lift with 31" tires.. Why only 3" w/31s? Well, I don't know of many places in Wisconsin to go off-roading or wheeling or whatever you wish to call it, and I'm more into the "let's go explore this trail.." type thing, so XJ is going to lean slightly to the expedition side of things. I also don't have the money/time/experience necessary to upgrade the axles, re-gear, add lockers,exo skeletons, and the other fun things for anything hardcore, so that pretty much figures into it as well.

SPECS:
1998 Jeep Cherokee Sport
I6 4.0
4sp auto AW-4
NP 231 transfer case
Axles: Dana 30, Chrysler 8.25
3.55 gear ratio
235/75/15 Duratracs
Worn out shocks, and sagging leaf springs.

So with out further ado:


Yea nice rust huh?

I LOVE the GoodYear DuraTracs:


Last winter with all the snow and ice we had, I had no trouble getting around, and I even drove through an unplowed lot where I work, with nice drifts and didn't use 4wd. I did, however, put it in 4Hi and 4Lo just to try them out and it was outstanding. So from here on out I'm always going to rock the Duratracs...
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: BobbyB on November 09, 2014, 10:05:37 PM
Now before all of you start thinking I'm neglecting poor XJ, don't worry I'm not. I'm buying parts as my wallet allows, and if I happen to see them on Craiglist, the local pick n' pull, O'Reilly Auto or the intewebz. However with winter coming up the pick n pull will get harder and harder to get into and search around.

Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: BobbyB on November 09, 2014, 10:16:48 PM
And because I had Bear with me in the XJ earlier, I took some pics.

Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: Flyin6 on November 10, 2014, 09:37:42 AM
Bobby, you look like an operator...
But
I think Bear is the prettier of you two!
Sorry dude...grunt/pilot thing...

OK Love it

First suggestion: Move down near me so I can get some sparks applied to that mess and get some real metal on it!

Let's make that mod #1
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: BobbyB on November 10, 2014, 09:45:22 AM
Bobby, you look like an operator...
But
I think Bear is the prettier of you two!
Sorry dude...grunt/pilot thing...

OK Love it

First suggestion: Move down near me so I can get some sparks applied to that mess and get some real metal on it!

Let's make that mod #1

I've been told that before, by multiple people, on different occasions.

As for Bear, yea he is an attention getter, he's pretty popular with, well anyone who sees him.

Well, assuming XJ survives another winter, and makes it to Mississippi for my cousins wedding next June, I'll more than likely stop by. As for moving down yonder, I gotta get through EMT, then hopefully Paramedic, Firefighter and Police Academy before I look into new jobs markets.
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: Flyin6 on November 10, 2014, 01:36:23 PM
...Or just move!
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: BobbyB on November 10, 2014, 03:45:32 PM
...Or just move!

Good point, however, I need to have some skills to help in the job hunt that will invariably occur.
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: Flyin6 on November 10, 2014, 09:53:32 PM
Was thinking while I was typing earlier today...If I only had a decent revenue stream from this site, and the farm was in good enough shape, I'd offer you rent free livin' down there to watch over the place and work there a couple days a week.

But not there yet, and besides that farm isn't local to anything except trees, and more trees!
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: BobbyB on November 11, 2014, 07:09:30 AM
Was thinking while I was typing earlier today...If I only had a decent revenue stream from this site, and the farm was in good enough shape, I'd offer you rent free livin' down there to watch over the place and work there a couple days a week.

But not there yet, and besides that farm isn't local to anything except trees, and more trees!


That's my dream if I ever win the lottery, become an oil baron or just get lucky enough to own a bunch of land surrounded by trees somewhere out in the countryside.
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: cudakidd53 on November 11, 2014, 09:19:02 AM
Bear has grown into one handsome boy!  Had a '94 like that, fun vehicle, but tippy when elevated much.  Great motor with plenty of power for its size and good mileage for a 6 cyl.  Looking forward to seeing it all transform!
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: KensAuto on November 11, 2014, 09:48:55 AM
Bobby, I've had a couple come in with cracks by the steering gear box....is that the stiffeners on your list? if not, maybe look into something for the gear box. I just used plate I had, but I'm sure they make something specific for them.
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: Flyin6 on November 11, 2014, 01:48:22 PM
I was working out this morning at the gym on the elicptical where your mind turns to mush is you don't engage it.
For some reason I was thinking about Bobby's build

Those rocker panels are terrible, and they are a part of that weak unit body.

That's when I had my idea.

Cut off the whole rocker panel front to back. Leave the outward face of the "Frame" piece. Get a section of 2 X 4 X .125" rectangle steel and weld it in there so that it protrudes past the door bottoms.

You just fixed the rust, added a real frame, built in rock rails, and added a step.

You could cover the top with no-slip and have a tall step, or cut it out to lower the step slightly, or forget about a stop altogether.

You could bevel the front and back to match wheel well contours.

Not that is a good idea!
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: BobbyB on November 11, 2014, 08:44:41 PM
Bear has grown into one handsome boy!  Had a '94 like that, fun vehicle, but tippy when elevated much.  Great motor with plenty of power for its size and good mileage for a 6 cyl.  Looking forward to seeing it all transform!

Thanks, yea Bear has turned into an attention grabber. People think he's older than he is, until either Mom or I tell him he isn't even a year old yet. I'm definitely not going past 3" lift, just need something mild, without getting into tippy territory, seen too many of those around here. As for MPGs, best tank was 22 mpg, averages 18, but its a bit lower with the winter fuel.

Bobby, I've had a couple come in with cracks by the steering gear box....is that the stiffeners on your list? if not, maybe look into something for the gear box. I just used plate I had, but I'm sure they make something specific for them.

Unibody stiffner:
http://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/catalog/XJRAIL.html

I'm planning on replacing the steering box and master cylinder with one from a Durango. I will also add in steering box braces, when I can find some online.



I was working out this morning at the gym on the elicptical where your mind turns to mush is you don't engage it.
For some reason I was thinking about Bobby's build

Those rocker panels are terrible, and they are a part of that weak unit body.

That's when I had my idea.

Cut off the whole rocker panel front to back. Leave the outward face of the "Frame" piece. Get a section of 2 X 4 X .125" rectangle steel and weld it in there so that it protrudes past the door bottoms.

You just fixed the rust, added a real frame, built in rock rails, and added a step.

You could cover the top with no-slip and have a tall step, or cut it out to lower the step slightly, or forget about a stop altogether.

You could bevel the front and back to match wheel well contours.

Not that is a good idea!

I actually had thought about adding in rectangular tubing. Most people who've done it recommend 2x4 or 2x6. But I can never find any when I'm out in shopping mode. So when I saw the rockers, I jumped. However, I'm still looking for tubing. I did plan on covering the entire lower quarter of the doors, and under and around the rockers in Herculiner.
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: Flyin6 on November 12, 2014, 08:33:59 AM
Bobby,
Those doors are gone...that's my bet. Saw the bubbles which is only a small part of the real story
Best plan is to find used doors in a junkyard that have no rust, then do the interior in a good undercoating and paint the outside with whatever.

But I'd pull the interior panel and take a look at what is going on inside.
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: BobbyB on November 12, 2014, 09:38:51 AM
Bobby,
Those doors are gone...that's my bet. Saw the bubbles which is only a small part of the real story
Best plan is to find used doors in a junkyard that have no rust, then do the interior in a good undercoating and paint the outside with whatever.

But I'd pull the interior panel and take a look at what is going on inside.

That's part of the plan. I've checked the doors at the JY, but they are smashed/dented/or worse. All else fails, I might just pull my doors, strip the paint, fix them up, and have my sister and brother in law wrap XJ in matte black wrap.
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: Flyin6 on November 12, 2014, 02:20:09 PM
Just order the doors from a junkyard.
Specify no rust, get them from Texas, or similar no salt place
Should be easy.
No hassle and better than repaired
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: BobbyB on November 12, 2014, 07:27:45 PM
Just order the doors from a junkyard.
Specify no rust, get them from Texas, or similar no salt place
Should be easy.
No hassle and better than repaired

Then the search begins.
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: Flyin6 on November 12, 2014, 07:37:09 PM
Which doors you need Bobby? I'll keep an eye peeled and ah-lookin down here just south of salts-ville
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: BobbyB on November 12, 2014, 08:45:55 PM
Which doors you need Bobby? I'll keep an eye peeled and ah-lookin down here just south of salts-ville

Only door that has rust is the rear passenger door. Everything else is fender/rockers. And the rust that's on the door, is a 1/2"x 1/2" roughly, so it can be trimmed out, bondo'd and bedlinered.
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: JR on November 15, 2014, 02:38:17 AM
Always liked those Jeeps. It I needed a smaller ride than the sub, it would go that way. But I do like real frames!!

The dog does have nicer hair for sure,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: Flyin6 on November 15, 2014, 08:16:13 AM
I like that dog
Want one
Wife says no
Two possible outcomes
1. She says yes
2. She goes! :o
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: BobbyB on November 15, 2014, 10:23:30 AM
Always liked those Jeeps. It I needed a smaller ride than the sub, it would go that way. But I do like real frames!!

The dog does have nicer hair for sure,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

The Wranglers are WAY overpriced or the owners are asking too much for them in this area. I actually saw XJ after it was posted on Craigslist for 15 mins, bought it the next day.

I should post up a pic of him when he was 5 months old when we got him. I named him Bear, since when I first saw him lumbering around a tree he looked like a Grizzly bear cub.


I like that dog
Want one
Wife says no
Two possible outcomes
1. She says yes
2. She goes! :o

I got Bear for $300. The guy said he would negotiate, but after seeing the crap conditions he and his 2 sisters' were in, I wasn't leaving him there. Mom said the same thing, but wanted to get the sisters as well, but that was out of the question.

You can probably find a puppy or young one for sale, or adoption. Oh SNAP, get her a wee German Shepherd puppy for Christmas!! No one can say "No" to those little eyes and ball of puppy fur, and little puppy feet. Unless you get a bear cub looking puppy..
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: JR on November 15, 2014, 06:13:35 PM
Heck you ought to see the prices here in Kali.

Been looking for a lab, wife says maybe a gold, I am leaning to the black or choc. I have to get a puppy so it can grow up with the cat. Think the wife will say its "her or the dog" must go. To bad it would be so expensive to loose her,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: BobbyB on November 15, 2014, 06:42:10 PM
Heck you ought to see the prices here in Kali.

Been looking for a lab, wife says maybe a gold, I am leaning to the black or choc. I have to get a puppy so it can grow up with the cat. Think the wife will say its "her or the dog" must go. To bad it would be so expensive to loose her,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

I never really got into having a Lab as a pet. Always seemed to prefer GSDs as pets.
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: Flyin6 on November 15, 2014, 08:16:05 PM
Heck you ought to see the prices here in Kali.

Been looking for a lab, wife says maybe a gold, I am leaning to the black or choc. I have to get a puppy so it can grow up with the cat. Think the wife will say its "her or the dog" must go. To bad it would be so expensive to loose her,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
JR,
I'll give ya Shasha...the onerous red dog. You can have her. Mostly golden with some German shepherd (Mother) in her. Sometimes she can back down the sled dog!
Can one ship a dog across country?
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: BobbyB on November 15, 2014, 09:40:07 PM
JR,
I'll give ya Shasha...the onerous red dog. You can have her. Mostly golden with some German shepherd (Mother) in her. Sometimes she can back down the sled dog!
Can one ship a dog across country?

Actually, yes one can ship a dog across the country. Has to be in a cage, a copy of all shot records and etc need to be affixed to the cage, and etc. Sorta like bring a pet home from Germany.

Since, I mentioned Bear as a "puppy" I should post a pic of him in his Grizzly bear like state, well sorta, once I got him home, I pulled the twigs and etc out of his hair.


As an added bonus, I was out throwing his ball for him and saw his print in the dirt. People ask to see how big his foot is so, here you go. He planted, dug in and launched...
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: Flyin6 on November 16, 2014, 08:27:04 AM
Does that dog have fat front legs?
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: Sammconn on November 16, 2014, 10:04:23 AM
Holy cow, does Bear ever have huge feet! How Big is he now Bobby?
I'm a Lab guy, but that is one fine looking shepherd!
Too bad they grow out of the 'cute puppy' stage.
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: BobbyB on November 16, 2014, 10:13:38 AM
Does that dog have fat front legs?

Yes, he has/had tree trunks for legs. There's no sneakiness in this dog really. He lays against the couch he shakes it when he breathes, he doesn't gently lay down like most dogs, he just does a semi controlled crash, he sounds like a toddler stomping around on a hard wood floor when he walks.


Holy cow, does Bear ever have huge feet! How Big is he now Bobby?
I'm a Lab guy, but that is one fine looking shepherd!
Too bad they grow out of the 'cute puppy' stage.

Yea, he has big feet. I'll try to get some updates pics of him standing next to mom. I really don't know how big he is, next time he's at the vet I'll find out. I'm gonna guess around 100 lbs. Well, he's still a puppy... turns 1 yr old on the 28th. Everyone who sees him when mom takes him to the pet store, out on walks, or to the dog park ends up gushing over him.
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: BobbyB on December 03, 2014, 06:43:02 PM
Well, yesterday I got the tie rod ends, brakes, steering damper, and the driver side hub replaced. Now if I can track down the mysterious vib/rubbing I'd be happier.
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: moto123 on December 03, 2014, 07:39:42 PM
Sorry for the pointless story, but all the comments about dogs made me laugh.  We've had really good luck with GSD's.  I know some of them can be kind of neurotic, my father in law used to train them and use them for K9 unit and once in a while he would get a really weird one that wasn't any good on duty.  But most trained quite well.  I have personally adopted two of them and they have both been fantastic.  Both listen to me and obey commands better than my golden retriever that we got as a puppy.  The first adopted GSD was a 130 lb male.  We adopted him around 5 years old.  The second we adopted at 3 years old and he was 100 lbs, but fairly tall, long and lean.  This second one grew up in a Chicago downtown condominium and was walked to nearby dog parks.  He reacted to meeting people and worked on a leash super well.  But when I got home and let him off leash it got really funny.  He still listened to my commands perfectly, but when I would throw the tennis ball, my 7 year old golden retriever was WAY faster than him.  Something is not right here I said to myself.  The new dog is 6 inches taller, 15 inches longer and way more muscular, why is he so slow?  So I tested him jumping into my truck - fail, he came up way short.  I found myself with a dog that apparently had never been free to be, well, a dog.  The first time he was walking in the woods and came upon a 12 in diameter fallen tree he stopped as though it was a 6 foot fence.  I had to basically drag him over the darn log.  He couldn't jump over it.  Never thought I would need to teach a dog how to run and jump.  But fast forward 2 months later, he has adapted very well.  He can now leap over 4 foot tall fences with ease and he is so ridiculously fast, I would never want to be the one running away from him.  It is still funny thou because there are times, like jumping over a 5 foot wide creek that he still waits and watches to make sure the smaller golden retriever successfully makes the jump first.  Perhaps he is just too smart to be the first one to get stuck in the mud.  They are an interesting breed.
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: BobbyB on December 04, 2014, 08:40:57 AM
Sorry for the pointless story, but all the comments about dogs made me laugh.  We've had really good luck with GSD's.  I know some of them can be kind of neurotic, my father in law used to train them and use them for K9 unit and once in a while he would get a really weird one that wasn't any good on duty.  But most trained quite well.  I have personally adopted two of them and they have both been fantastic.  Both listen to me and obey commands better than my golden retriever that we got as a puppy.  The first adopted GSD was a 130 lb male.  We adopted him around 5 years old.  The second we adopted at 3 years old and he was 100 lbs, but fairly tall, long and lean.  This second one grew up in a Chicago downtown condominium and was walked to nearby dog parks.  He reacted to meeting people and worked on a leash super well.  But when I got home and let him off leash it got really funny.  He still listened to my commands perfectly, but when I would throw the tennis ball, my 7 year old golden retriever was WAY faster than him.  Something is not right here I said to myself.  The new dog is 6 inches taller, 15 inches longer and way more muscular, why is he so slow?  So I tested him jumping into my truck - fail, he came up way short.  I found myself with a dog that apparently had never been free to be, well, a dog.  The first time he was walking in the woods and came upon a 12 in diameter fallen tree he stopped as though it was a 6 foot fence.  I had to basically drag him over the darn log.  He couldn't jump over it.  Never thought I would need to teach a dog how to run and jump.  But fast forward 2 months later, he has adapted very well.  He can now leap over 4 foot tall fences with ease and he is so ridiculously fast, I would never want to be the one running away from him.  It is still funny thou because there are times, like jumping over a 5 foot wide creek that he still waits and watches to make sure the smaller golden retriever successfully makes the jump first.  Perhaps he is just too smart to be the first one to get stuck in the mud.  They are an interesting breed.


When I got Bear, him and the other puppies were housed in an outside garage, the place was a dump. When I went to look at the puppies to see if I wanted to buy one, I didn't see an food/water bowls. The puppies were wandering loose, no toys, just an old car seat they would rip up and lay on to get off the snow. The guy said they puppies would wander around and off the property. I was not happy.
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: BobbyB on December 05, 2014, 12:53:56 PM
What does the panel think of this? Other suggestions? I'd rather not spend beaucoup money.

Rancho 2.5"

http://www.quadratec.com/products/76031_700X_PG.htm
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: Flyin6 on December 05, 2014, 05:58:33 PM
Ought to work

I'll bet you get into some work knocking those factory springs down judging from the rust everywhere else. Be sure you have new center pin bolts, the old ones will not be reusable.

2.5" seem reasonable
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: BobbyB on December 05, 2014, 06:04:54 PM
Ought to work

I'll bet you get into some work knocking those factory springs down judging from the rust everywhere else. Be sure you have new center pin bolts, the old ones will not be reusable.

2.5" seem reasonable

I'm really not looking forward to ANY of the bolts under XJ.. It's either going 2.5 or 3". Depends on what I find/can afford/doesn't look cheap.
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: Dustoff35 on December 15, 2014, 01:49:42 PM
Those rocker panels are terrible, and they are a part of that weak unit body.

That's when I had my idea.

Cut off the whole rocker panel front to back. Leave the outward face of the "Frame" piece. Get a section of 2 X 4 X .125" rectangle steel and weld it in there so that it protrudes past the door bottoms.

You just fixed the rust, added a real frame, built in rock rails, and added a step.

You could cover the top with no-slip and have a tall step, or cut it out to lower the step slightly, or forget about a stop altogether.

You could bevel the front and back to match wheel well contours.

Not that is a good idea!

I realize I'm about a month behind but...

I'm pretty sure that the Cherokee has a full frame, the Grand Cherokee has a uni-body…

My bro-in-law removed his rockers on his rock-climbing Blazer altogether for clearance, you can do that with a full-frame vehicle.
 
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: BobbyB on December 15, 2014, 02:12:56 PM
Nope, I'm working with the Unibody.. It is what it is. I don't really have BIG plans for XJ, so it's nothing that impacts too hard on them.
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: Flyin6 on December 15, 2014, 05:03:05 PM
Cut em out...square steel tubing!
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: BobbyB on December 15, 2014, 06:00:10 PM
Cut em out...square steel tubing!

I'm still looking for square tubing. Also, I have to work around the schedule of work, the guy who's going to do the welding's schedule, and the impending new schedule I'm more than likely going to get.
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: BobbyB on December 17, 2014, 02:55:44 PM
So last Thursday XJ got a new alternator. And this morning the tires were rotated,balanced and aligned.

On that topic, since when does it take 2 HOURS!! to do a rotate,balance and align... Not once have I ever had it go that long.

Now, I have to track down this vibration.. More to come on that.
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: Dustoff35 on December 17, 2014, 08:02:08 PM
bad vibes???
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: BobbyB on December 17, 2014, 08:52:51 PM
bad vibes???

Not too bad, just more of a "feel in the shifter/pedals/seat" and can hear it if you pay attention. Its not a "shake your fillings out", type thing. That makes it more annoying to me.

At first, I thought maybe the tires needed balancing, but nope. I'll find it, just going to take time.
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: Dustoff35 on December 20, 2014, 03:50:03 PM
Check your u-joints, wheel bearings and the output shaft from the transfer case.  Is the vibration continuous at all speeds? 
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: Dustoff35 on December 20, 2014, 03:51:14 PM
I'm sure the guys who aligned it would have noticed if the wheel bearings were questionable...
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: Flyin6 on December 20, 2014, 06:47:44 PM
That thing has a CV joint (Junk) Known weak point. Check that as well
Makes more of a clicking sound when defective
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: BobbyB on December 20, 2014, 07:42:33 PM
Check your u-joints, wheel bearings and the output shaft from the transfer case.  Is the vibration continuous at all speeds?

That's on the agenda for next weekend. It is continuous, but like I said its not a harsh shake. Like a cylindrical grind that hits only on one spot of a rotating mass.


I'm sure the guys who aligned it would have noticed if the wheel bearings were questionable...

They didn't say anything, but then again, I left my Jeep at the dealership and had to walk 1.7 miles to work. The guy who dropped it off didn't know anything.


That thing has a CV joint (Junk) Known weak point. Check that as well
Makes more of a clicking sound when defective

I was looking into replacing all the CVs/U joints. Just to have piece of mind. Possibly after I replace the rocker panels.
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: Dustoff35 on December 21, 2014, 12:51:35 PM

 ...Like a cylindrical grind that hits only on one spot of a rotating mass.


That sounds like a warped brake rotor.
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: Flyin6 on December 21, 2014, 04:12:00 PM
Check your u-joints, wheel bearings and the output shaft from the transfer case.  Is the vibration continuous at all speeds?

That's on the agenda for next weekend. It is continuous, but like I said its not a harsh shake. Like a cylindrical grind that hits only on one spot of a rotating mass.


I'm sure the guys who aligned it would have noticed if the wheel bearings were questionable...

They didn't say anything, but then again, I left my Jeep at the dealership and had to walk 1.7 miles to work. The guy who dropped it off didn't know anything.


That thing has a CV joint (Junk) Known weak point. Check that as well
Makes more of a clicking sound when defective

I was looking into replacing all the CVs/U joints. Just to have piece of mind. Possibly after I replace the rocker panels.

You can do the U-joints yourself. CV's not so sure...most times one just purchases a new shaft
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: BobbyB on December 21, 2014, 05:39:04 PM
That sounds like a warped brake rotor.

Replaced the front pads and the rotors didn't seem warped. I'm going to check them again, and probably check the wheel bearings. Just checking everything at this time I suppose.


You can do the U-joints yourself. CV's not so sure...most times one just purchases a new shaft

Yep, just have to rebuild the funds before I start buying new U-joints.
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: Dustoff35 on December 22, 2014, 09:00:48 AM
That sounds like a warped brake rotor.

Replaced the front pads and the rotors didn't seem warped. I'm going to check them again, and probably check the wheel bearings. Just checking everything at this time I suppose.


Its hard to eyeball a rotor and know if its warped or not.  Maybe impossible. 

I know a lot of guys skip having the rotors turned / resurfaced when replacing pads but it is something you really want to do, especially if a warped rotor is suspect.
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: BobbyB on December 22, 2014, 09:06:45 AM

Its hard to eyeball a rotor and know if its warped or not.  Maybe impossible. 

I know a lot of guys skip having the rotors turned / resurfaced when replacing pads but it is something you really want to do, especially if a warped rotor is suspect.

Well I might just replace the rotors, a lot of places around here don't want to turn or re-surface them. We'll see what the outcome shall be.
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: KensAuto on December 22, 2014, 09:29:27 AM
That sounds like a warped brake rotor.

Replaced the front pads and the rotors didn't seem warped. I'm going to check them again, and probably check the wheel bearings. Just checking everything at this time I suppose.


Its hard to eyeball a rotor and know if its warped or not.  Maybe impossible. 

I know a lot of guys skip having the rotors turned / resurfaced when replacing pads but it is something you really want to do, especially if a warped rotor is suspect.
He's right Bobby. Believe it or not, even new rotors are warped straight out of the box (a couple thousandths all the way to .020"). They shouldn't be stacked on top of each other during shipping, but they are, and that alone is enough to warp them to some degree.
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: BobbyB on December 22, 2014, 10:35:40 AM
He's right Bobby. Believe it or not, even new rotors are warped straight out of the box (a couple thousandths all the way to .020"). They shouldn't be stacked on top of each other during shipping, but they are, and that alone is enough to warp them to some degree.

Well then XJ is gonna have to cooperate and help me eliminate all the vibs/squeaks/groans/grinds and other miscellaneous noises... like that'll ever happen!
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: BobbyB on January 19, 2015, 04:25:06 PM
Well, XJ got :
An oil change
2 new headlights
Heater box flushed out, so now it's blowing actual heat out of the vents.

I ordered new sway bar end links, and 2 new inner fender plastics. Next payday I'll pick up the new fender and front fender flares, and hopefully coordinate with the guy I work with to cut out the rust and old rockers and weld in the new rocker panels.

I've been racking my brain whether to lift or not lift XJ. I'd like a 3" but I've seen a 2.5" lift. But then again, I'd almost like to get XJ level and stock to work out the vibs/squeaks/grinds before I add height to the equation. The Duratracs aren't helping my decision since they don't appear to be wearing down.. Time will tell where my thoughts end.
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: EL TATE on January 19, 2015, 06:24:05 PM
I have chased weird noises on xj's for years. for rear rotational noises, there have been plenty of times where the wheel bearing was indeed bad, but had no movement that one would notice during a shakedown or alignment. I've also replaced the same rear wheel bearing twice only to have it turn out to be the backing plate was slightly bent in the groove where the brake drum sits. it was pinched in one spot, impossible to see without pulling the drum off, but even then it was so dirty it didn't show itself till I was being screamed at by an old lady, and put some tire chalk on the drum to see if it was touching anywhere on the plate. 30 seconds w/a pair of pliers and the problem was solved. don't overlook stupid things that you think "couldn't possibly be the cause" Ken's got some major points; and I've seen drums that are so out of round from the factory they practically hop.

My $0.02, if you're going to replace suspension components at all, get a lift kit that includes all the bushings etc and do it right once. the factory style suspension components are probably pretty close to the cost of an aftermarket lift kit, and usually of a lesser quality. if you go with the smaller lift kit, you can usually get away without the expensive transfercase drop kit, and or custom driveshafts.
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: BobbyB on January 20, 2015, 08:34:21 AM
I have chased weird noises on xj's for years. for rear rotational noises, there have been plenty of times where the wheel bearing was indeed bad, but had no movement that one would notice during a shakedown or alignment. I've also replaced the same rear wheel bearing twice only to have it turn out to be the backing plate was slightly bent in the groove where the brake drum sits. it was pinched in one spot, impossible to see without pulling the drum off, but even then it was so dirty it didn't show itself till I was being screamed at by an old lady, and put some tire chalk on the drum to see if it was touching anywhere on the plate. 30 seconds w/a pair of pliers and the problem was solved. don't overlook stupid things that you think "couldn't possibly be the cause" Ken's got some major points; and I've seen drums that are so out of round from the factory they practically hop.

My $0.02, if you're going to replace suspension components at all, get a lift kit that includes all the bushings etc and do it right once. the factory style suspension components are probably pretty close to the cost of an aftermarket lift kit, and usually of a lesser quality. if you go with the smaller lift kit, you can usually get away without the expensive transfercase drop kit, and or custom driveshafts.

I replaced both front hubs, and that killed alot of the noise. I'm agreeing with Ken about the brake rotors being warped, just have to get some new ones. As for a lift.. well I'm still torn between 2.5 or 3". But before that I need to fix the rust and the bushings, I've seen a complete front end bushing kit, and I'm debating, since most of the lifts I've seen have bushings included. Time will tell what happens with XJ.


Any recommendations for the lifts? I lost my list of needs/wants and the pros/cons. I was in a cleaning/organizing mood and got rid of it, stupidly.
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: Flyin6 on January 20, 2015, 09:15:33 AM
Bobby, Last Sunday while driving back from church. I stopped in traffic right beside a Jeep like yours. Really KOOL looking rig. It was lifted, I'd say 4" maybe better and was riding on 33's I think. Had part of the front wheel well cut away, rears were stock. Had a roof rack, bumper stuff and lights along with other gnarly looking things.

He had decent offset wheels which widened the track offsetting the negatives of lifting the COG. It was still riding on the tiny stock diffs, so judging from that jeep, the stockers were holding up to 33's, although my casual observation is not a valid estimate of the axles strength, that's for sure.

Anyway, ground clearance was good, stance was right, it went down the road straight (I followed him for a while) and played in traffic just fine. I like the taller lift!
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: EL TATE on January 20, 2015, 01:34:26 PM
No matter what you do, I've been informed that you will most likely require a tcase drop and custom driveline for freeway travel. 4.5" BDS kits are great, and I've got a guy in MI willing to take good care of you on one should you go that route. He ran the same lift w/ 33" tires for years and even ran Moab with it, so very capable and cost effective at the same time. Unlimited Off Road in MI, talk to Kevin 1-810-936-7000, tell him I sent you. If you can't get anywhere with them, talk to Rusty's off Road products in AL. http://www.rustysoffroad.com/, Rusty or Zack.
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: BobbyB on January 20, 2015, 03:08:05 PM
Bobby, Last Sunday while driving back from church. I stopped in traffic right beside a Jeep like yours. Really KOOL looking rig. It was lifted, I'd say 4" maybe better and was riding on 33's I think. Had part of the front wheel well cut away, rears were stock. Had a roof rack, bumper stuff and lights along with other gnarly looking things.

He had decent offset wheels which widened the track offsetting the negatives of lifting the COG. It was still riding on the tiny stock diffs, so judging from that jeep, the stockers were holding up to 33's, although my casual observation is not a valid estimate of the axles strength, that's for sure.

Anyway, ground clearance was good, stance was right, it went down the road straight (I followed him for a while) and played in traffic just fine. I like the taller lift!

I've seen a few XJs like that cruising around. I had/have/am thinking about just going for it like that... only thing is some of the cops up here love stopping people for having tires exposed like that, or this that or the other thing. The 4.5" does look awesome...

SO hard to choose.



No matter what you do, I've been informed that you will most likely require a tcase drop and custom driveline for freeway travel. 4.5" BDS kits are great, and I've got a guy in MI willing to take good care of you on one should you go that route. He ran the same lift w/ 33" tires for years and even ran Moab with it, so very capable and cost effective at the same time. Unlimited Off Road in MI, talk to Kevin 1-810-936-7000, tell him I sent you. If you can't get anywhere with them, talk to Rusty's off Road products in AL. http://www.rustysoffroad.com/, Rusty or Zack.

Sounds good Tate thanks. I started a new "build" sheet and added the names/numbers on it. Hopefully by spring I "SHOULD" be able to start lifting/changing XJ. I'm not doing anything in Winter if it can be avoided.
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: JR on January 20, 2015, 05:03:50 PM
If it has D44's you should be fine with 33's unless you have a healthy SBC in there.

I have been researching Cvs for my Dmax do you think that would help, unless you know for sure it is rotors and they are cheap now!!

OH, and to play Devils Advocate, where are the pics!!!  ;D
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: EL TATE on January 20, 2015, 06:11:29 PM
more likely 8.25 chy or amc 35 rear d30 high pin front, but still w/ 33" tires he's going to be just fine with the 4.0L hopefully he has the 8.25 chy rear. To echo previous statements, any pics? shoot me a rear diff cover shot and I can ID it for you
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: BobbyB on January 21, 2015, 03:52:55 AM
If it has D44's you should be fine with 33's unless you have a healthy SBC in there.

I have been researching Cvs for my Dmax do you think that would help, unless you know for sure it is rotors and they are cheap now!!

OH, and to play Devils Advocate, where are the pics!!!  ;D



Pics when it's not covered in road salt/grime.


more likely 8.25 chy or amc 35 rear d30 high pin front, but still w/ 33" tires he's going to be just fine with the 4.0L hopefully he has the 8.25 chy rear. To echo previous statements, any pics? shoot me a rear diff cover shot and I can ID it for you

Chrysler 8.25 rear, D30 up front.

Pics when it's not covered in road salt/grime.
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: EL TATE on January 21, 2015, 06:56:10 PM
Lucky you. 29 spline axles vs the 27 is a good thing. 8.25 vs 7.625 is another good thing. parts are a little more expensive but we have a lot of options.
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: BobbyB on January 22, 2015, 03:45:44 AM
Lucky you. 29 spline axles vs the 27 is a good thing. 8.25 vs 7.625 is another good thing. parts are a little more expensive but we have a lot of options.

Good to know. Hopefully spring time will be the timeframe I need to upgrade XJ.
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: BobbyB on January 30, 2015, 07:22:15 PM
Little update.

Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: Nate on January 30, 2015, 09:13:27 PM
I remember a post from somebody talkin about the toes of a certin older man needing to be cropped from a pic...............?  Lol
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: JR on January 30, 2015, 09:19:04 PM
They almost look painted  :o
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: BobbyB on January 30, 2015, 10:16:23 PM
I remember a post from somebody talkin about the toes of a certin older man needing to be cropped from a pic...............?  Lol

Actually, it was you and I giving him a quick verbal counseling on the dangers and irresponsibility of wearing sandals in the shop area in direct violation of the PPE rules and regulation set forth by the DOTs.

They almost look painted  :o

Ha, no I was taking the pics in my kitchen/dining room and the lighting isn't very good. But one big toenail has a bruise under it.
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: Flyin6 on January 30, 2015, 10:31:52 PM
I can see where that mutt gets his big feet from!
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: BobbyB on January 31, 2015, 09:03:28 AM
I can see where that mutt gets his big feet from!


Ha, he doesn't sink in the snow like I do. I wish I had that ability to snowshoe on top of everything.
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: Nate on January 31, 2015, 11:25:01 AM
I remember a post from somebody talkin about the toes of a certin older man needing to be cropped from a pic...............?  Lol

Actually, it was you and I giving him a quick verbal counseling on the dangers and irresponsibility of wearing sandals in the shop area in direct violation of the PPE rules and regulation set forth by the DOTs.

just one battle DOT lookin out for another battle DOT.
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: BobbyB on January 31, 2015, 01:55:44 PM
just one battle DOT lookin out for another battle DOT.

there's DOTs', then there's battle DOTs'. lol


Unrelated note : The Military Channel (or now called American Heroes Channel) is quite boring, and really need to step up their game.
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: cudakidd53 on January 31, 2015, 03:30:38 PM
They almost look painted  :o

I had to zoom in- thought so too!  :o
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: BobbyB on February 03, 2015, 09:09:35 AM
So, I've been searching for bumpers for XJ and found the following that I like. However, if I see something different, I bookmark it. Opinions? Other options I haven't listed, but you think would be a good option..

In no particular order

1. OR-FAB
 http://www.quadratec.com/products/72025_802X_PG.htm

2. JCR Offroad
 http://www.jcroffroad.com/product/XJ/XJFV.html

3. Smittybilt
 http://www.quadratec.com/products/12051_0800_07.htm

Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: Flyin6 on February 03, 2015, 09:22:23 AM
I like all of them you chose

Here's one with more frontal coverage:

http://eastsidecustomtruck.com/c-65726-bumpers-grilles-jeep-bumpers-jeep-xj-cherokee-bumpers.html
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: Tommy13 on February 03, 2015, 10:29:59 AM
I don't do much posting, but I've had good luck with Hanson on my last couple of Jeep projects Bobby.

http://www.hansonoffroad.com/
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: BobbyB on February 03, 2015, 03:46:21 PM
I like all of them you chose

Here's one with more frontal coverage:

http://eastsidecustomtruck.com/c-65726-bumpers-grilles-jeep-bumpers-jeep-xj-cherokee-bumpers.html

They are nice... the price is not. However, I did bookmark the page, and shall be browsing back to it alot.

$2,300 + for a D44.... I got excited until I saw the price, then I almost cried.



I don't do much posting, but I've had good luck with Hanson on my last couple of Jeep projects Bobby.

http://www.hansonoffroad.com/

Awesome, thanks for the link. By all means post away if you got Jeep knowledge that might come in handy.
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: Tommy13 on February 03, 2015, 04:49:06 PM
Good folks at Hanson in my experience.  Not cheap, but they seem to want to please the customer.
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: Flyin6 on February 03, 2015, 04:55:33 PM
I agree with the positive comments about Hanson products. Read a write-up about them and him once. They have grown a bunch over the years, so I can only hope product quality is as good as when they were one-offing stuff.
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: Tommy13 on February 03, 2015, 05:31:57 PM
Just a few years back they made some changes for me by request.  At the time all items were built to order.  Build quality was top notch!
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: BobbyB on February 03, 2015, 06:47:49 PM
Guess I'm gonna be checking them out more.
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: JR on February 04, 2015, 03:01:31 AM
Speaking of boring. My boys and I just spent the night on the USS Hornet based in Alameda. A "kid" was giving us tours and I knew about 50 times more than him. He couldn't even name the planes he was standing next to.

Was still a blast and they had an old CH-34 like my dad flew before the Hueys.

Only banged my head once on a ship built for 5ft 9in on 6ft frame.

Somehow I saw boring somewhere and posted this, oh well, another DOT post,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, 8)
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: BobbyB on February 04, 2015, 08:15:57 AM
Speaking of boring. My boys and I just spent the night on the USS Hornet based in Alameda. A "kid" was giving us tours and I knew about 50 times more than him. He couldn't even name the planes he was standing next to.

Was still a blast and they had an old CH-34 like my dad flew before the Hueys.

Only banged my head once on a ship built for 5ft 9in on 6ft frame.

Somehow I saw boring somewhere and posted this, oh well, another DOT post,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, 8)

That's why if I can wander on my own, I will, or I'll lag behind and go at my own pace.

Oh the ol'piston bird.. I saw one flying around here a couple years ago, but haven't seen it since
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: BobbyB on February 15, 2015, 04:28:55 PM
Well, XJ decided that I didn't need to get home Saturday night. I was headed home and the temp gauge redlined. Soon after wards something blew apart and for 1/2 mile, I was apparently spewing coolant all over the road and engine compartment. Due to the fireworks that were going on I didn't hear the thud. I did however see the smoke rolling from under the hood. I stopped and checked it out, but in the -35 temps I didn't see a split hose,hole, or missing section. We'll see what the mechanic says.
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: Flyin6 on February 15, 2015, 04:40:31 PM
Ouch
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: BobbyB on February 15, 2015, 06:10:55 PM
Ouch

Yup, Murphy has been hanging out lately and it's kind of annoying.
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: Flyin6 on February 16, 2015, 01:10:55 PM
So what was it??
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: BobbyB on February 16, 2015, 01:16:22 PM
So what was it??

Still waiting to hear back. I'm borrowing dad's car until I hear back. Probably won't hear anything until tomorrow. I'll update when I hear anything.
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: Flyin6 on February 16, 2015, 01:21:56 PM
I hope it's minor buddy!
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: BobbyB on February 16, 2015, 04:01:36 PM
I hope it's minor buddy!

I drove it 10 mi from the lot to the mechanic, so it wasn't a catastrophic problem. Dad was thinking a freeze plug failed, I'm leaning that way. It was wickedly cold, to the point the -35 temp antifreeze I had was a bit slushy, so that probably played a part in it.
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: JR on February 16, 2015, 04:44:40 PM
Murphy has been busy lately
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: Flyin6 on February 16, 2015, 05:04:40 PM
It's amazing the effect that low temps can have on things
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: BobbyB on February 17, 2015, 09:30:28 AM
Murphy has been busy lately

Yes he has.


It's amazing the effect that low temps can have on things

Yea...

Called the shop this morning. The mechanic is going to see if he can get it to overheat later today. The thermostat was replaced not too long ago. He thinks maybe on one end of the spectrum maybe just the radiator cap popped off, or the other end.... head gasket is probably close to being NMC. Guess I'll find out later today.

P.S. Murphy can go visit someone else for awhile... that'd be super.
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: EL TATE on February 17, 2015, 01:03:47 PM
have the tech double check the coolant reservoir; I have been on hand for 2 head gasket jobs that turned out to be simple coolant reservoir seal failures. under pressure they blast the hot coolant against the hot block, run the level down and the temp up, but often they are the only issue with these 4.0L's. Hope that's the case Bobby.
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: BobbyB on February 17, 2015, 02:00:06 PM
have the tech double check the coolant reservoir; I have been on hand for 2 head gasket jobs that turned out to be simple coolant reservoir seal failures. under pressure they blast the hot coolant against the hot block, run the level down and the temp up, but often they are the only issue with these 4.0L's. Hope that's the case Bobby.

Once he calls, I'll ask him. But wouldn't that just coat the passenger side with coolant? Mine was all driver side.
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: Flyin6 on February 17, 2015, 02:50:30 PM
Hope it is not a head gasket
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: BobbyB on February 17, 2015, 03:50:06 PM
Hope it is not a head gasket

I am hoping the same.
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: EL TATE on February 17, 2015, 07:00:38 PM
have the tech double check the coolant reservoir; I have been on hand for 2 head gasket jobs that turned out to be simple coolant reservoir seal failures. under pressure they blast the hot coolant against the hot block, run the level down and the temp up, but often they are the only issue with these 4.0L's. Hope that's the case Bobby.

Once he calls, I'll ask him. But wouldn't that just coat the passenger side with coolant? Mine was all driver side.

Guess I stepped in it there. it's been more than a few years since those events took place. Their location has left my memory banks but they were the cause of that problem at that time. Too bad that doesn't seem to be the case for you.
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: BobbyB on February 18, 2015, 01:50:36 AM
Guess I stepped in it there. it's been more than a few years since those events took place. Their location has left my memory banks but they were the cause of that problem at that time. Too bad that doesn't seem to be the case for you.

You didn't step in it. You gave legit advice. When I first read it , I was thinking "it's possible..." but then realized wrong side. So still waiting...
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: KensAuto on February 18, 2015, 08:56:06 AM
I just saw this Bobby. It is definitely possible that the freeze plugs gave....they are on the left side, behind the exhaust. Just did some last year and I think you can do all of them (3 I think) without taking the manifolds off IIRC.
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: BobbyB on February 18, 2015, 09:21:57 AM
I just saw this Bobby. It is definitely possible that the freeze plugs gave....they are on the left side, behind the exhaust. Just did some last year and I think you can do all of them (3 I think) without taking the manifolds off IIRC.

Oh how I hope it's just freeze plugs. Maybe Murphy will be visiting someone else when it finally gets figured out.
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: EL TATE on February 18, 2015, 12:23:55 PM
who's this "Murphy" guy I keep hearing about? He seems like a jerk! ;) I hope the freeze plugs are your issue. I did some internet hunting last night and found some timing cover issues, coolant return lines entering into the water pump housings rotting out, all sorts of fun.
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: BobbyB on February 18, 2015, 01:33:07 PM
who's this "Murphy" guy I keep hearing about? He seems like a jerk! ;) I hope the freeze plugs are your issue. I did some internet hunting last night and found some timing cover issues, coolant return lines entering into the water pump housings rotting out, all sorts of fun.

Murphy is a real pain. I still haven't heard anything, so I'm taking it as it wasn't the head gasket. I did some searching as well, and I'm thinking that I possibly just had a freeze plug fail. It was definitely cold enough so there is/was an increased chance of it..
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: BobbyB on February 20, 2015, 09:32:02 AM
Well called the mechanic this morning and was told XJ has been ready for 4 days. And the problem.... There wasn't one, at least one that could be found. The freeze plugs were still present, the head gasket wasn't fouled. Best guess he had was the thermostat he put in earlier this winter failed.

So I get to go pick up XJ after I get off work.
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: KensAuto on February 20, 2015, 09:40:51 AM
:bugeyes !!
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: Flyin6 on February 20, 2015, 09:41:54 AM
So what about this murphy guy??
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: BobbyB on February 20, 2015, 09:56:26 AM
:bugeyes !!

That was my reaction when he told me that. But I'll take it over the alternative.


So what about this murphy guy??

He can come visit you for awhile. I'd like to continue to acquire parts to fix XJ that won't require me to give a mechanic vast sums of money to fix.
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: Dustoff35 on February 22, 2015, 07:18:39 PM
So the XJ is operating now?
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: BobbyB on February 23, 2015, 01:49:31 AM
So the XJ is operating now?

Yup, XJ is FMC at this time. I've been waiting to see if anything else decided to fail but so far so good.
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: BobbyB on March 13, 2015, 11:44:52 PM
So XJ is still gracing us with her presence. This afternoon, I had the sway bar end links and the sway bar bushings replaced. I had a shop do it; yea I know heresy, but I didn't have a torch, couldn't find the tap in case I snapped a bolt off, and it was all nicely seized up with the assorted winter grime. Plus laying in a puddle of ice cold water wasn't conducive to getting any work done.

The sway-bar bushing were beyond worn out. You could push up with a finger and move the sway-bar inside the mounting brackets and cause a clunking, now imagine driving over roads that are cracked and suffering from frost upheaval.. it gets kind of annoying. I assembled the end links, liberally greased them up with white lithium grease, then dropped it all off at the shop. A couple hours later and XJ has new bushings,end links and skid plate all mounted up. Unfortunately the old bushings were so far gone, I didn't get a chance to take a pic of them, as they basically fell to pieces.

So here's a few random pics just because we all love pics..

Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: BobbyB on April 13, 2015, 04:13:13 PM
XJ is still motoring around. I haven't done much since the last update. But eventually stuff will happen; what will happen I'm not completely sure, but something is bound to happen.
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: BobbyB on May 11, 2015, 12:56:13 PM
UPDATE:

Nothing new to really report on. XJ is still rusty, still driving and that's about it. Although, I have been looking into adding a 99 Grand Cherokee to the mix as a backup vehicle.

Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: Flyin6 on May 11, 2015, 08:30:19 PM
Bobby, I checked out that XJ near my farm. Turns out the rockers in it are way rusty. I couldn't see the holes on a black jeep from the road at my viewing angle, but passing it Saturday, I slowed down the train and took a look-see.

Seems most of them have rusty rockers
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: TexasRedNeck on May 11, 2015, 09:36:45 PM
http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f37/xj-frame-build-741237/

I'll just leave this here...I think Don may have some time on his hands to help you with this project.....

Let me know if you need any body parts that are rust free.  Happy to keep and eye out and arrange shipping
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: TexasRedNeck on May 11, 2015, 09:44:39 PM
http://houston.craigslist.org/pts/4969435399.html

http://houston.craigslist.org/pts/5004181949.html  might be easier to get the whole thing....
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: BobbyB on May 12, 2015, 02:26:34 AM
Bobby, I checked out that XJ near my farm. Turns out the rockers in it are way rusty. I couldn't see the holes on a black jeep from the road at my viewing angle, but passing it Saturday, I slowed down the train and took a look-see.

Seems most of them have rusty rockers

Yea, the rockers seem to succumb pretty quickly to it.




http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f37/xj-frame-build-741237/

I'll just leave this here...I think Don may have some time on his hands to help you with this project.....

Let me know if you need any body parts that are rust free.  Happy to keep and eye out and arrange shipping

Dang! XJ's going to get some new stuff put on soon. Stiffeners, some suspension stuff, possibly some lights. I'm waiting for a friend of mine to move back up here from GA, as her husband welds professionally, so I can get it done right, as opposed to me messing with it.
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: BobbyB on May 12, 2015, 02:42:06 AM
Also, a couple months ago when I had the mysterious leak on XJ, Tate mentioned that I should check the windshield reservoir as the seals like to leak on occasion . I, for some unknown reason, mentally placed it on the passenger side... it is NOT on the passenger side.

No I wasn't putting fluids in the wrong place, I had a brain fart and just realized it. My bad.
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: BobbyB on May 22, 2015, 02:44:37 PM
So apparently XJ decided to allow a few seals to start leaking simultaneously. But failed to allow it to do it more than weeping, so to spite her, I will make her wait to get them fixed.
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: TexasRedNeck on May 22, 2015, 11:54:58 PM
Inconsiderate wench!!
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: JR on May 23, 2015, 01:53:18 AM
You should see all the XJs out here, rust free. I was looking for a steering shaft (non ragjoint upgrade for the sub) and found at least 8 without trying at picknpull.
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: BobbyB on May 23, 2015, 06:20:33 PM
Inconsiderate wench!!

Possibly one of the tamer ways I could use to describe her. The leaks aren't bad, the rear pinion seal, the transfer case and oil pan seal need to be replaced, might do the trans pan as well. 2 of the 3 will be RTV'd, the other 2,I'll just end up ordering the seals off RockAuto.


You should see all the XJs out here, rust free. I was looking for a steering shaft (non ragjoint upgrade for the sub) and found at least 8 without trying at picknpull.

You're a bit out of travel distance.


However, I am going to go look at a 97 F250 w/ 7.3 either tonight or tomorrow.
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: JR on May 24, 2015, 02:27:29 PM
Inconsiderate wench!!

Possibly one of the tamer ways I could use to describe her. The leaks aren't bad, the rear pinion seal, the transfer case and oil pan seal need to be replaced, might do the trans pan as well. 2 of the 3 will be RTV'd, the other 2 I will order the seals off RockAuto.


You should see all the XJs out here, rust free. I was looking for a steering shaft (non ragjoint upgrade for the sub) and found at least 8 without trying at picknpull.

You're a bit out of travel distance.


However, I am going to go look at a 97 F250 w/ 7.3 either tonight or tomorrow.

Well, at least being a FORD is it the 7.3. Just be sure its a solid front axle Dana 60, not a 51 or flexy type ???
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: BobbyB on May 24, 2015, 03:23:09 PM
Well, at least being a FORD is it the 7.3. Just be sure its a solid front axle Dana 60, not a 51 or flexy type ???

Well only really going to look at it as the guy wants $3,500 OBO. I did a quick check when I drove by and it looked solid front end, but I haven't gotten a good look yet. Went and looked at sable GSD puppy yesterday, but didn't get it, then spent most of the remaining time running errands.
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: Flyin6 on May 24, 2015, 07:11:29 PM
Well, at least being a FORD is it the 7.3. Just be sure its a solid front axle Dana 60, not a 51 or flexy type ???

Well only really going to look at it as the guy wants $3,500 OBO. I did a quick check when I drove by and it looked solid front end, but I haven't gotten a good look yet. Went and looked at sable GSD puppy yesterday, but didn't get it, then spent most of the remaining time running errands.
JR is right, pass it up if it has an axle other than a solid one.

BTW F250's had the Dana 50 flexy axle thing, so it would have had to been owner changed in the past...
But some folks did that.
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: JR on May 24, 2015, 07:14:02 PM
I just got some new beadlocks for the H1s and the guy had 2 litters of lab pups, I was so tempted, but the boss is anti dog right now.

I got a home inspection tomorrow and have been doing "cleanup" for that. Then back to the spartan,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: BobbyB on May 24, 2015, 10:20:41 PM
I decided to pass on the truck without even going to look at it again in depth. Just something about it wasn't sitting right in my head. Oh well, no biggie.
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: BobbyB on August 03, 2015, 05:32:11 PM
Got the new distributor cap,rotor and plug wires from RockAuto this afternoon, already had the plugs waiting. So this weekend I get to replace those, and maybe, order some other things.
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: Nate on August 03, 2015, 07:37:41 PM
that is good news bobby
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: TexasRedNeck on August 03, 2015, 09:23:20 PM
Giddy up!


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Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: BobbyB on August 04, 2015, 09:30:05 AM
that is good news bobby


Giddy up!


But wait there's more coming! More what exactly remains to be seen.
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: TexasRedNeck on August 04, 2015, 10:34:49 AM
That was my Kramer reference from Seinfeld, in case the irony was lost in translation. I'm sure you'll get done before Don starts the paperweight


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Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: BobbyB on August 04, 2015, 11:55:32 AM
That was my Kramer reference from Seinfeld, in case the irony was lost in translation. I'm sure you'll get done before Don starts the paperweight

Oh that is possible, but I really don't have a time frame for XJ. It's more of a slowly moving parts search then continue on.
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: Flyin6 on August 05, 2015, 09:06:08 AM
That was my Kramer reference from Seinfeld, in case the irony was lost in translation. I'm sure you'll get done before Don starts the paperweight


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I heard that!
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: BobbyB on August 10, 2015, 03:34:28 PM
Well Saturday was the day that I had allotted time for myself to do the distributor cap, rotor, plug and wires. Murphy decided that it was time to rear his head and let slip the dogs of misfortune. The previous owner must have NEVER swapped the plugs and they felt like they were welded to the block; hindsight I should have swapped them myself soon after buying XJ. They weren't having anything to do with being removed. I did get the cap and rotor swapped out, 1 plug wire and the coil wire. In order to do that I had to play twister with the new cap, rotor and my wrist but in the end I prevailed.

Flash forward to today, after Confined Space Rescue Tech refresher, I was in the parking lot of my apartment when I felt a disturbance in the force,  quickly realizing that Murphy wasn't paying attention, I seized the moment and got 4 of the plug wires swapped out before my luck turned and Murphy once again declared "no go" and the front plug wire eluded me yet again, and so the plugs stayed secured in the block.

I do have some pics, but it'll have to wait until I can get the old plugs out to see how crappy they look. At this rate I'm almost afraid to replace the injectors... Almost, Murphy, ALMOST!
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: Atkinsmatt on August 10, 2015, 03:39:33 PM
hit them with some pb blaster or the like.  Try it a little warm also.
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: BobbyB on August 10, 2015, 03:52:32 PM
hit them with some pb blaster or the like.  Try it a little warm also.


I'm sad to say I'm out of PB blaster and WD40. And even sadder is I left my socket set up at my parent's so I wasn't even able to attempt the plugs while she was still warm.. Murphy is diabolical.
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: Nate on August 10, 2015, 03:53:10 PM
mix you a 50/50 concocution of this:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CESDxCloCoQ (ATF and acetone)
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: BobbyB on August 10, 2015, 04:00:34 PM
mix you a 50/50 concocution of this:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CESDxCloCoQ (ATF and acetone)

 :o

Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: Nate on August 10, 2015, 08:25:24 PM
it works brother, I have tried it myself and was surprised


Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: Flyin6 on August 10, 2015, 08:33:04 PM
I'm with the smart guyz here
Hit them with PB blaster, then squirt trans fluid over them, let that marinade overnight. Next morning after your 10 mile ruck march hit them once again with the PB Blaster and take em right out. Report MC...Read back.
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: EL TATE on August 11, 2015, 08:26:15 AM
Strange as it sounds, after seasoning and marinating overnight, before grilling give them a good right hand turn to tighten them. most of the time they are more likely to turn a bit in this direction which breaks the seal so to speak allowing you to remove them easier. I learned this little trick from a Mexican fella in the pick and pull yard. I was fighting with a seized alternator bracket bolt when he wandered over, and had it broken free in seconds.
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: BobbyB on August 11, 2015, 09:16:59 AM
I'm with the smart guyz here
Hit them with PB blaster, then squirt trans fluid over them, let that marinade overnight. Next morning after your 10 mile ruck march hit them once again with the PB Blaster and take em right out. Report MC...Read back.

I gotta get more of the spray. I have an empty can sitting in my hallway closet as a reminder. Gonna grab some after work.


Strange as it sounds, after seasoning and marinating overnight, before grilling give them a good right hand turn to tighten them. most of the time they are more likely to turn a bit in this direction which breaks the seal so to speak allowing you to remove them easier. I learned this little trick from a Mexican fella in the pick and pull yard. I was fighting with a seized alternator bracket bolt when he wandered over, and had it broken free in seconds.

I've done the right hand turn a tad, then loosen. These just didn't want to be free, but they will be free, whether they wish it to be or not.
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: Nate on August 11, 2015, 09:59:53 AM
is that aluminum head?  I ask because if it is an aluminum then the previous owner most likely didn't put anti-seize on the threads to eliminate the current different metal corrosion you are currently experiencing. 
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: KensAuto on August 11, 2015, 10:37:41 AM
is that aluminum head?  I ask because if it is an aluminum then the previous owner most likely didn't put anti-seize on the threads to eliminate the current different metal corrosion you are currently experiencing. 

Nah, but those plugs get tight on their own with miles, on a 6 cyl....it may have nothing to do with rust.
Long needle nose pliers (called storks by some), work great on the front wire. I would guess that you don't have storks, as most "normal" people...so
Just rip it out, dielectric grease the new one, and work it in, after replacing the plug. You'll need a swivel for the front one.

Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: BobbyB on August 11, 2015, 12:22:48 PM
Long needle nose pliers (called storks by some), work great on the front wire. I would guess that you don't have storks, as most "normal" people...so
Just rip it out, dielectric grease the new one, and work it in, after replacing the plug. You'll need a swivel for the front one.

If I was able to actually get my hand in there to get a grip on the plug wire I'd have a good chance of pulling it off. The AC compressor is right there and a real PITA.
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: KensAuto on August 11, 2015, 12:47:08 PM
Yeah, sucky design...

I have faith in you buddy.
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: BobbyB on August 11, 2015, 02:19:50 PM
Yeah, sucky design...

I have faith in you buddy.

Oh that wire is coming off, I actually need to replace the compressor anyway, but its not in this months budget, and since winter is coming up, I probably won't bother with it since I roll with my windows down 90% of the time.
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: BobbyB on August 13, 2015, 09:35:48 AM
Update, got the front plug wire removed. Maintenance guy at work had some of the long needle nosed pliers. Took a couple attempts to get a good grasp on it, a couple choice words and it came off. Now I'm soaking the plugs themselves in WD40 and another CLP like spray.
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: BobbyB on August 27, 2015, 04:06:09 PM
Update...

Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: rpar86 on August 27, 2015, 06:05:17 PM
Bobby,

Instead of using the 'insert pic' link, attach them instead. If you scroll up a few posts, Ken posted a pic of a swivel socket but it has a little paper clip icon. When you click on the pic, it opens up in a new window, and if the window isn't large enough for the full size image, a magnifying glass icon appears and you can click the pic to make it FULL size. Yours look to be inserted into the body of the post and that's why when you click on them they open up full size.

If you're posting from your phone you may be limited in the method that you can use to attach pics.

Hope that helps...
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: Flyin6 on August 27, 2015, 09:52:41 PM
Those spark plugs were GONE!
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: BobbyB on August 28, 2015, 03:27:11 AM
Bobby,

Instead of using the 'insert pic' link, attach them instead. If you scroll up a few posts, Ken posted a pic of a swivel socket but it has a little paper clip icon. When you click on the pic, it opens up in a new window, and if the window isn't large enough for the full size image, a magnifying glass icon appears and you can click the pic to make it FULL size. Yours look to be inserted into the body of the post and that's why when you click on them they open up full size.

If you're posting from your phone you may be limited in the method that you can use to attach pics.

Hope that helps...

Does that still work when using imgur?


Those spark plugs were GONE!

Yes they were. Now that I got the plug/wires/cap and rotor replaced, I can move on to other items before winter hits with it's icy fist of hate.
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: JR on August 28, 2015, 03:43:13 AM
I got an XJ steering shaft for my burb. Ever hear of doing that?
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: BobbyB on August 28, 2015, 04:52:02 AM
I got an XJ steering shaft for my burb. Ever hear of doing that?

Putting an XJ shaft on a Burb? No, but then again, I've never really done much to my previous vehicles besides the normal fluid changes and maintenance; XJ is the vehicle I'm sorta doing more stuff to when I can.
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: OldKooT on August 28, 2015, 07:20:29 AM
Bobby.... I have a Xj I am going to be sending to the scrap heap at some point very soon. It's got a hatched 4.0 and is generally a POS. But it did run and drive fine minus the rod trying to fly out of the block. If you need any parts lemme know. It also has a lift of some type... I haven't investigated much.
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: BobbyB on August 28, 2015, 09:17:06 AM
Bobby.... I have a Xj I am going to be sending to the scrap heap at some point very soon. It's got a hatched 4.0 and is generally a POS. But it did run and drive fine minus the rod trying to fly out of the block. If you need any parts lemme know. It also has a lift of some type... I haven't investigated much.

Let me give XJ a once over this weekend when I'm sitting at work, and I'll let you know. If you got any pics of her, wanna throw a couple up? Might see something that I haven't thought of.
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: Flyin6 on August 28, 2015, 10:04:16 AM
Bobby, I'm thinking I heard lift kit...
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: Atkinsmatt on August 28, 2015, 10:09:34 AM
Road trip.
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: OldKooT on August 28, 2015, 10:10:53 AM
I will grab a pic or two this afternoon. It's completely rust free but very ugly. It has no paperwork or maybe I'd sell it to someone as a project...that said it's pretty much a parts rig. And yes it is lifted....it has 31" rubber and slightly cut front fenders.
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: BobbyB on August 28, 2015, 10:12:07 AM
Bobby, I'm thinking I heard lift kit...

Maybe.

Road trip.

Lol work schedule isn't allowing that.


I will grab a pic or two this afternoon. It's completely rust free but very ugly. It has no paperwork or maybe I'd sell it to someone as a project...that said it's pretty much a parts rig. And yes it is lifted....it has 31" rubber and slightly cut front fenders.

Hm..
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: OldKooT on August 28, 2015, 10:15:45 AM
Bobby, what general part of the USA are you in? It's sat behind a shed on concrete for a year already. It's not going anywhere in a hurry...other than I would like not to plow around it yet another winter LoL
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: BobbyB on August 28, 2015, 12:43:38 PM
Bobby, what general part of the USA are you in? It's sat behind a shed on concrete for a year already. It's not going anywhere in a hurry...other than I would like not to plow around it yet another winter LoL

Wisconsin.

What axle is hanging under the front.
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: EL TATE on August 28, 2015, 12:56:03 PM
factory is HP d30 non disconnect
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: rpar86 on August 28, 2015, 01:12:11 PM
Bobby,

Instead of using the 'insert pic' link, attach them instead. If you scroll up a few posts, Ken posted a pic of a swivel socket but it has a little paper clip icon. When you click on the pic, it opens up in a new window, and if the window isn't large enough for the full size image, a magnifying glass icon appears and you can click the pic to make it FULL size. Yours look to be inserted into the body of the post and that's why when you click on them they open up full size.

If you're posting from your phone you may be limited in the method you can use to attach pics.

Hope that helps...

Does that still work when using imgur?

No, because attaching a file saves it on the RMT&S server. Using a 3rd party hosting site just uses a pointer to the file over on imgur's servers ([IMG] HTML tag), therefore whatever size the pic is on Imgur, it will be the same here. So, before you upload to imgur you'd need to resize the pic. The easiest way to resize is to turn down the resolution that your camera (I'm assuming your phone) takes pics at... if that's even possible?  Other than that, there are 3rd party apps for the phone or even MS Paint on the PC that can resize the pic.
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: Dawg25385 on August 28, 2015, 01:23:35 PM
...therefore whatever size the pic is on Imgur, it will be the same here. So, before you upload to imgur you'd need to resize the pic. The easiest way to resize is to turn down the resolution that your camera (I'm assuming your phone) takes pics at... if that's even possible?  Other than that, there are 3rd party apps for the phone or even MS Paint on the PC that can resize the pic.

You can resize individual pics in imgur too... Click on your pic there, then click Edit Image, and there's a resize option.

Alternatively, there's an Auto-Resize option as well that will resize when you upload to imgur

(http://i.imgur.com/PvyDeyG.png)
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: OldKooT on August 28, 2015, 01:27:17 PM
I am sure it's the original Dana 30 front axle. Although since this thing was a "off roader" I should check and see if there are any mods besides the lift.

Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: rpar86 on August 28, 2015, 02:25:03 PM
...therefore whatever size the pic is on Imgur, it will be the same here. So, before you upload to imgur you'd need to resize the pic. The easiest way to resize is to turn down the resolution that your camera (I'm assuming your phone) takes pics at... if that's even possible?  Other than that, there are 3rd party apps for the phone or even MS Paint on the PC that can resize the pic.

You can resize individual pics in imgur too... Click on your pic there, then click Edit Image, and there's a resize option.

Alternatively, there's an Auto-Resize option as well that will resize when you upload to imgur

(http://i.imgur.com/PvyDeyG.png)

There ya go! I don't use imgur so I'm not aware of some of its features. Good find Kyle!
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: BobbyB on August 28, 2015, 02:27:08 PM
No, because attaching a file saves it on the RMT&S server. Using a 3rd party hosting site just uses a pointer to the file over on imgur's servers ([IMG] HTML tag), therefore whatever size the pic is on Imgur, it will be the same here. So, before you upload to imgur you'd need to resize the pic. The easiest way to resize is to turn down the resolution that your camera (I'm assuming your phone) takes pics at... if that's even possible?  Other than that, there are 3rd party apps for the phone or even MS Paint on the PC that can resize the pic.

You can resize individual pics in imgur too... Click on your pic there, then click Edit Image, and there's a resize option.

Alternatively, there's an Auto-Resize option as well that will resize when you upload to imgur

^^ Thanks computer people ^^


factory is HP d30 non disconnect

I know, I was hoping Norm had an old one with the 44, or had you know swapped it with one, or something awesome like that. Hey I can dream.
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: EL TATE on August 28, 2015, 02:36:14 PM
I'll keep an ear to the ground for a late model wagoneer/early xj. Anything with a d44 front will be 6 lug though. And Norm probably DOES have them, he just needs to check in the other barn behind the hay bales.  ;D
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: BobbyB on August 28, 2015, 02:59:43 PM
I'll keep an ear to the ground for a late model wagoneer/early xj. Anything with a d44 front will be 6 lug though. And Norm probably DOES have them, he just needs to check in the other barn behind the hay bales.  ;D

I was actually thinking the same thing. Of course I could just stick with what I got and fix it up somehow.
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: KensAuto on August 28, 2015, 03:09:30 PM
Thanks kyle....did not know that. I've uploaded close to 3000 pics to imgur since the beginning of RMTWS, and thought I knew what I was doing.
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: Dawg25385 on August 28, 2015, 03:28:59 PM
Thanks kyle....did not know that. I've uploaded close to 3000 pics to imgur since the beginning of RMTWS, and thought I knew what I was doing.

You're welcome. Truthfully, i didn't know about the auto-resize until today. I just always did it individually, or not at all. But i'll likely use the auto-resize from here on out. I might do a sticky in the Intro's section with a little tutorial.
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: JR on August 28, 2015, 03:57:37 PM
You sure on the 6 lug guys? Ford and dodge used 5 lugs for a long time with 44's. I know they will be a lot wider, but I bet the knuckles will cross over? A 44 would sure be nice vs the 30.

I see XJs all around here built up being at the foot of the Sierras and a hairs breath from the rubicon.

Oh, the XJ shaft on the GMs gets rid of the rag joint. Popular mod on many of the truck forums.
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: OldKooT on August 28, 2015, 05:14:21 PM
Bobby... What you'd want to find in order to build a 44 front is a Dana 44 F-250 77ish-79 Ford front axle. These are reverse Rotation DS drop like your Dana 30. Most would then cut/narrow for a overall axle width of 64" for a XJ application. Then... you can pick and choose knuckles and hubs/brakes from a variety of applications depending on desired bolt pattern. And of course you'd also need to buy some custom inner axle shafts. Fabricate your brackets/steering and your done. Not all that bad of job really....You'd also then most likely want a 8.8 rear with a matching bolt pattern and gears.

Personally....a Dana 30 with quality ball joints, and 31" rubber won't be prone to breakage unless you use a air locker or a Detroit. And even then it would take some abuse. The advantage to the 44 starts becoming more obvious when ya get larger rubber (35") and a locker. Also Wis terrain is largely dirt/mud so again I'd stick with the Dana 30 front.

If you ever need custom axle or fab work of any nature done...let me know. I have many friends in Wisconsin in the 4x4 world. I also have kids/grand kids there, and we visit a few times a year.



Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: Flyin6 on August 28, 2015, 11:56:51 PM
Thanks kyle....did not know that. I've uploaded close to 3000 pics to imgur since the beginning of RMTWS, and thought I knew what I was doing.

You're welcome. Truthfully, i didn't know about the auto-resize until today. I just always did it individually, or not at all. But i'll likely use the auto-resize from here on out. I might do a sticky in the Intro's section with a little tutorial.
I'd like to see that

I manually resize everything to large before posting it
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: JR on August 29, 2015, 04:36:52 AM
Tell yah, if I wasn't building the burb and the max and a samurai in the waits. I think an XJ would be a great family 4x4 even though I am a gm guy.
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: BobbyB on August 29, 2015, 07:00:38 AM
Bobby... What you'd want to find in order to build a 44 front is a Dana 44 F-250 77ish-79 Ford front axle. These are reverse Rotation DS drop like your Dana 30. Most would then cut/narrow for a overall axle width of 64" for a XJ application. Then... you can pick and choose knuckles and hubs/brakes from a variety of applications depending on desired bolt pattern. And of course you'd also need to buy some custom inner axle shafts. Fabricate your brackets/steering and your done. Not all that bad of job really....You'd also then most likely want a 8.8 rear with a matching bolt pattern and gears.

Personally....a Dana 30 with quality ball joints, and 31" rubber won't be prone to breakage unless you use a air locker or a Detroit. And even then it would take some abuse. The advantage to the 44 starts becoming more obvious when ya get larger rubber (35") and a locker. Also Wis terrain is largely dirt/mud so again I'd stick with the Dana 30 front.

If you ever need custom axle or fab work of any nature done...let me know. I have many friends in Wisconsin in the 4x4 world. I also have kids/grand kids there, and we visit a few times a year.

As much as I"d like to go full blown crazy by swapping in a 44 after all the trimming and rebuilding, I'll more than likely just stick with what I got in the 30. As you said the terrain around here doesn't really require much more, especially since I don't do any rock crawling or mud boggin or other generally destructive things, I'm more into exploring.

I'm planning/budgeting/watching for a 3" and 31s lift in XJ's future. It's all just a when I feel like making the leap. It's on the back burner until I repair the rust and fix up a few other items on XJ. I may hit you up for contact info on the people in Wi.
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: OldKooT on August 30, 2015, 10:20:22 AM
A little late but as promised...

(http://i.imgur.com/Hh0f2G3.jpg)

As you can see it's rough...literally it's covered in bed liner. There is little to no rust per say but the body is far from "nice". It has a healthy 4spd auto, a 4.0L with a rod knock... Dana 30 front and Chrysler rear.

Interior is half way decent but not what I'd call nice.

So a parts truck with no paperwork...

What it does have of interest possibly...

(http://i.imgur.com/xE1qzjs.jpg)

Looks to be a set of lift springs and whatever goes with the lift. Also JKS sway bar disconnects as well. The rear has just a add a leaf, so I assume 3.5" lift or so. Tires in the picture are bald 31" BFG's

I am not sure "when" I will sell/dispose of this wreck, but I will most likely part it out. Or sell it to someone who wants a parts truck.

Anyway, I said I'd post some pics, so I have LoL



Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: BobbyB on August 30, 2015, 03:26:28 PM
Also JKS sway bar disconnects

Yes, possibly. PM sent
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: BobbyB on October 09, 2015, 10:00:26 AM
Update:

XJ had an amazing update.




I cleaned the windshield, inside and out. That is all.
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: Flyin6 on October 09, 2015, 10:42:30 AM
Update:

XJ had an amazing update.




I cleaned the windshield, inside and out. That is all.
Details needed!

What type of cleaner?
What type of rag used?  or paper?
In the sun or a shaded area?
Wiping back and forth, or up and down, circular motion, or free form?
Edges and corners clean as well?
What % increase in visual acquity after the modification?

Come on Sergeant, tighten up this shot group!
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: Nate on October 09, 2015, 10:57:06 AM
he may not have had enough coffee yet this morning
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: JR on October 09, 2015, 11:23:27 AM
Yep, more coffee (as I finish cup 2) for Don. Seems a tad testy this AM.

Go get that XJ
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: BobbyB on October 09, 2015, 11:46:56 AM

Details needed!

1. What type of cleaner?
2. What type of rag used?  or paper?
3. In the sun or a shaded area?
4. Wiping back and forth, or up and down, circular motion, or free form?
5. Edges and corners clean as well?
6. What % increase in visual acquity after the modification?

Come on Sergeant, tighten up this shot group!

1. Standard windex
2. Standard paper towels, doubled up
3. Cleaning operations commenced in the daylight hours at approximately 1345H (local)
4. Cleaning operations utilized all forms of cleaning techniques
5. 100% of the surface was properly cleansed
6.  100% increase in visual acquity

Bear's nose art leave much to be desired. Especially when he now knows he can jump into XJ through the open windows after exploring the woods and feels the need to lay down.


he may not have had enough coffee yet this morning

I had my standard one cup of black coffee with a TBSP of raw honey.

Yep, more coffee (as I finish cup 2) for Don. Seems a tad testy this AM.

Go get that XJ

Well those officer types don't like offputting conversation when they are having coffee. It's just not dignified.
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: Flyin6 on October 09, 2015, 12:37:00 PM
Good job

CM
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: Nate on October 09, 2015, 01:58:13 PM
bobby, my back seat stays folded down with a couple of blankets layed down to catch things that fall from the these 2
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: BobbyB on October 09, 2015, 02:45:11 PM
Good job

CM

I do what I can.

bobby, my back seat stays folded down with a couple of blankets layed down to catch things that fall from the these 2

Normally the back seat is down, if I leave it up, he can't lay down and get comfortable. However, I have some Trans fluid, Oil, Coolant, a compact shovel and some metal grating in the back. Once I get it organized more and etc, I'll put the back seat down for him and throw a couple blankets back there for him.
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: TexasRedNeck on October 09, 2015, 10:34:32 PM
If youve never used newsprint, give it a try.  Works wonders.  No lint.
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: BobbyB on October 10, 2015, 07:51:11 AM
If youve never used newsprint, give it a try.  Works wonders.  No lint.

I have, but I just grabbed the last little bit of paper towels I had left on the roll.
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: Flatlander on October 12, 2015, 07:23:05 PM
If youve never used newsprint, give it a try.  Works wonders.  No lint.

This is a great detail trick (or is that a hack nowadays?), I have been using this method for at least 30 years. Best used as a 'final' wipe down/polish for that showroom clean look.

TIP to use: Wad up a full two sheet section of black and white newspaper in to a bit of a ball and use like any other wiper. If it gets to wet it will "pill and shred" but no lint. Just grab another full sheet of the Chicago Tribune and go back to work. NEVER used colored ad paper!
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: BobbyB on October 13, 2015, 03:47:59 AM

This is a great detail trick (or is that a hack nowadays?), I have been using this method for at least 30 years. Best used as a 'final' wipe down/polish for that showroom clean look.

TIP to use: Wad up a full two sheet section of black and white newspaper in to a bit of a ball and use like any other wiper. If it gets to wet it will "pill and shred" but no lint. Just grab another full sheet of the Chicago Tribune and go back to work. NEVER used colored ad paper!

I agree it does work. Plus cheaper than buying paper towels.
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: BobbyB on November 25, 2015, 06:47:09 PM
Well, XJ has been parked in the parking lot since the 13th. I bought a 2007 Saturn Ion for a daily driver. Lots better on the gas mileage front.
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: Flyin6 on November 25, 2015, 10:10:06 PM
That's a girl's car, right?

I'm saddened...
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: TexasRedNeck on November 25, 2015, 10:38:40 PM
Don, that's just wrong.....


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Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: Flyin6 on November 25, 2015, 10:44:47 PM
Don, that's just wrong.....


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There was no danger

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Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: stlaser on November 25, 2015, 10:47:32 PM
OK, enough DOTing here. Bobby get those good parts from the farmer already.
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: Flyin6 on November 25, 2015, 10:48:08 PM
OK, enough DOTing here. Bobby get those good parts from the farmer already.
Yea!
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: TexasRedNeck on November 25, 2015, 11:09:52 PM

Don, that's just wrong.....


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There was no danger

So I took the shot!

Rofl. For real. Like guys who wear their Brietling and talk about being a pilot. Except you really have been there....


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Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: BobbyB on November 26, 2015, 08:05:28 AM
That's a girl's car, right?

I'm saddened...

I'll take 35 MPG over the 16ish that XJ was delivering.

You're saddened cause you're a pilot. Pilots have sensitive feelings. It was either a Saturn, beat up Civics or Kias..


OK, enough DOTing here. Bobby get those good parts from the farmer already.

Nope sent him a PM, so whenever he's done with the crops and etc.

Yea!

Nope.

guys who wear their Brietling

I don't think I've ever seen an actual pilot wear a Brietling. I've seen G-Shocks, and Suuntos, but then again I never really interacted with normal civilian pilots.
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: rpar86 on November 26, 2015, 09:00:46 AM
Well, at least Saturn was owned/built by GM, so you're gtg in my book!
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: BobbyB on November 26, 2015, 10:49:30 AM
Well, at least Saturn was owned/built by GM, so you're gtg in my book!

It's also a manual transmission. lol
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: Flyin6 on November 26, 2015, 10:51:52 AM
Manual trans...Well, OK, give ya a bye on that one...

Pilots with big watches? Usually only the ones who aren't spending all their time flying

Read: Wanna-be's
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: BobbyB on December 28, 2015, 02:04:59 AM
It appears as if the oil pan gasket has decided to leak. So once I get paid I'm going to have to replace some things. Thinking I'm going to throw down and replace the oil pan gasket, the rear main seal, oil pump, and MAYBE the valve cover gasket.

Why? Well because I want to, or something like that.
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: JR on December 28, 2015, 02:11:11 AM
Maybe just do the motor?
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: BobbyB on December 28, 2015, 09:14:31 AM
Maybe just do the motor?

I've already looked at and bookmarked a 4.6 or 4.7 stroker. Complete, and ready for drop in for $2,500. Or might buy another 4.0 for $300 that was pulled at 123,xxx miles and go with that. But if I do that it'll have to wait until after payday and when I get back from Reno.
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: stlaser on December 28, 2015, 09:49:24 AM
Bobby, grab the 123,000 mile unit. Go buy a comp cams (call them direct & ask them what they recommend for towing / gas mileage) & have top end redone. Then you'll have a torqueee little motor without that big price tag. I did this (cam & top end) on my 04 rubicon & noticed a big improvement in drive ability. If you want add the headers & exhaust. Just my 2 cents
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: Flyin6 on December 28, 2015, 10:54:30 AM
I have to agree with what's his name ^^^

Buy the used motor, pull the head. hand port it, well just clean up the roughness in the casting, good performance valve job with a larger seat surface. Paint up the inside and outside, weld a chunk of plate steel onto the oil pan bottom, do the cam.
Heck, send the pan to me and I'll do it for ya!
As Norm would say, toss in a High lift, short duration bump stick, and think about cam timing.
Gasket it all up and bolt her in.
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: stlaser on December 28, 2015, 11:09:35 AM
I have to agree with what's his name ^^^

Typical pilut commentary......
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: BobbyB on December 28, 2015, 11:48:39 AM
Bobby, grab the 123,000 mile unit. Go buy a comp cams (call them direct & ask them what they recommend for towing / gas mileage) & have top end redone. Then you'll have a torqueee little motor without that big price tag. I did this (cam & top end) on my 04 rubicon & noticed a big improvement in drive ability. If you want add the headers & exhaust. Just my 2 cents

I'm thinking about it, however it's a 99 and I'm not sure if all the electrical voodoo will cooperate with the 98. At least if what I'm reading is correct.


I have to agree with what's his name ^^^

Buy the used motor, pull the head. hand port it, well just clean up the roughness in the casting, good performance valve job with a larger seat surface. Paint up the inside and outside, weld a chunk of plate steel onto the oil pan bottom, do the cam.
Heck, send the pan to me and I'll do it for ya!
As Norm would say, toss in a High lift, short duration bump stick, and think about cam timing.
Gasket it all up and bolt her in.

I'm getting the oil changed today after work, and depending on what the mechanic (Guy I know and trust) says, I may get the motor if it'll work with the 98 (the motor is a 99), I'll get the motor and acquire the add ons and get it swapped out.
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: stlaser on December 28, 2015, 01:36:23 PM
Good idea, there is a difference in years but can't recall when that happened....

Edit: Bobby I researched it, as long as that motor came out of a 99 tj or xj you're gtg. If it came out of a 99 wj then it's a no go.....
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: BobbyB on December 28, 2015, 04:59:50 PM
Good idea, there is a difference in years but can't recall when that happened....

Edit: Bobby I researched it, as long as that motor came out of a 99 tj or xj you're gtg. If it came out of a 99 wj then it's a no go.....

That's good to know. Went and got the oil changed, the mechanic looked at XJ and said the trans cooler line is leaking, and the RMS is also leaking. But I can just keep adding oil if she needs it. So I'm thinking when I get back from Reno, I"ll snag that motor is its still available, and start acquiring parts.
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: stlaser on December 28, 2015, 05:30:35 PM
Good idea, slow build with an end goal as money finds itself available.
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: JR on December 28, 2015, 08:12:08 PM
123 does not sound bad at all. Do the head and seals and another 100k
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: stlaser on December 28, 2015, 08:30:33 PM
Trans cooler line is easy fix typically it's just a short piece of rubber tube connecting steel lines to tranny & steel lines to tran cooler. $5 piece of rubber hose & couple hose clamps. Lay on your back under front end & you'll see them. Same issue on my tj hose had nick in it
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: BobbyB on December 29, 2015, 03:11:06 AM
Trans cooler line is easy fix typically it's just a short piece of rubber tube connecting steel lines to tranny & steel lines to tran cooler. $5 piece of rubber hose & couple hose clamps. Lay on your back under front end & you'll see them. Same issue on my tj hose had nick in it

It snowed last night. There's drifts all around XJ. The Sheriff's dept closed on ramps to the highway south of me last night, they reopened them at 0100. So I shan't be laying in the parking lot swapping lines..

But once I get back from Reno, if I don't have it done, I'll use my parent's garage and get it done. Well that's assuming Bear will leave me alone for 15 mins.
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: JR on December 29, 2015, 03:20:05 AM
Reno, your just a couple hours from me!
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: BobbyB on December 29, 2015, 04:42:38 AM
Reno, your just a couple hours from me!

I was originally going to fly into SF and spend a day hanging out with my buddy who lives out there, then we were going to road trip to Reno for his wedding, but yea that would've added almost $1,000 to my trip, so that got nixed.


On a side XJ related note, the Duratracs and 4wd still rock in the deep snow drifts. People just left their cars in the driveways and parking lots where they got stuck last night. Semi's who stopped for the night are stuck on the on/off ramps or parking lots. Car dealerships have vehicles in drifts up to and overlapping their bumpers.. 
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: TexasRedNeck on December 29, 2015, 08:53:50 AM
"I shot a man in Reno, just to watch him die"

Quiz:  what song is that from?


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Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: Nate on December 29, 2015, 08:57:16 AM
That would be the man in black
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: TexasRedNeck on December 29, 2015, 09:20:04 AM
As our leader would say"give that man a gold star"!  Enjoy your trip to Reno Bobby. Hope there is no shooting.  And stay away from Lamar Odom's house.....


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Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: BobbyB on December 29, 2015, 09:29:23 AM
As our leader would say"give that man a gold star"!  Enjoy your trip to Reno Bobby. Hope there is no shooting.  And stay away from Lamar Odom's house.....


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Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: Flyin6 on December 29, 2015, 11:26:58 AM
As our leader would say"give that man a gold star"!  Enjoy your trip to Reno Bobby. Hope there is no shooting.  And stay away from Lamar Odom's house.....


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Beat me to it!
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: BobbyB on January 13, 2016, 02:27:19 PM
So XJ sat all by her lonesome in the parking lot. It got all polar vortex-y and this morning she was cranky on start up. But she got over it, I still had to go to work.
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: stlaser on March 02, 2016, 09:57:33 AM
You get that motor picked up?
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: BobbyB on March 02, 2016, 10:11:44 AM
You get that motor picked up?

Nope. It was sold. There are a couple more for sale so maybe sometime soon.
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: BobbyB on April 28, 2016, 04:23:21 PM
Well last week I got a call from a friend of mine who's car died on her, asking me to come pick her up. I said sure but it'd be a minute as I'd have to drive 30 mins to facilitate the pick up. Well her friend from work ended up picking her up, so I went grocery shopping, as I was about to pull out of the parking lot XJ died.

No restarting, no stuttering just straight died. Well I threw a few choice words at her, waited a few and attempted a restart. So as I'm sitting there partially blocking the exit, I went through the scenarios of what angered XJ to the point of ceasing all function.

1. XJ heard I might sell her...
  - Unlikely but who knows apparently they know everything.

2. Battery died..
  - It is an old battery, but nope.

3. Fuel pump/fuel filter fail..
  - Nope, it was running fine until I attempted to get home from the grocery store.

4. Unknown gremlin making my day miserable..
  - Most likely

5. As a chance one of the NAPA workers sprayed some starting fluid down her intake...
  - Sputtered and died ASAP

6. Alternator..
 - Ehh I think I just replaced it before winter.

At this point, I said screw it and called a tow truck and had her taken to the local dealership. In the back of my head the crankshaft position sensor was floating around, but I didn't give it much thought; I should've.

Picked XJ up last Friday, to a tune of $289.xx
 - Crankshaft position sensor... figures.  ::)
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: JR on April 28, 2016, 04:26:56 PM
Ouch for a $30 part. I have a line on one out here for about free, just come get it. I don't have the room or time.
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: BobbyB on April 28, 2016, 04:31:13 PM
Ouch for a $30 part. I have a line on one out here for about free, just come get it. I don't have the room or time.

That's the part that I had to (sorta) laugh at. Had I thought harder about it, I could've just had XJ towed to my apt complex, and bought the part and done it myself. But I also didn't want to fight with XJ. Oh well, what's done is done.
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: swbhobie16 on April 28, 2016, 07:42:03 PM
CPS are cranky old buggers. and for something so small..

word of warning, I saw something about you picking up another motor at some point. If you do, make sure you keep your existing flywheel on whatever 4.0 you stick back in there.. otherwise the CPS won't read the 'dot dash' as the flywheel spins and won't tell it to fire when needed.

ask me how I figured that on out..
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: BobbyB on April 29, 2016, 02:27:27 AM
CPS are cranky old buggers. and for something so small..

word of warning, I saw something about you picking up another motor at some point. If you do, make sure you keep your existing flywheel on whatever 4.0 you stick back in there.. otherwise the CPS won't read the 'dot dash' as the flywheel spins and won't tell it to fire when needed.

ask me how I figured that on out..

Thanks for the heads up.
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: KensAuto on April 30, 2016, 03:17:51 PM
That's the part that I had to (sorta) laugh at. Had I thought harder about it, I could've just had XJ towed to my apt complex, and bought the part and done it myself. But I also didn't want to fight with XJ. Oh well, what's done is done.

But had you replaced the CKP, it would have been the fuel pump. That's just how it works. Cars are  products of Satan.
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: BobbyB on April 30, 2016, 04:16:23 PM
That's the part that I had to (sorta) laugh at. Had I thought harder about it, I could've just had XJ towed to my apt complex, and bought the part and done it myself. But I also didn't want to fight with XJ. Oh well, what's done is done.

But had you replaced the CKP, it would have been the fuel pump. That's just how it works. Cars are  products of Satan.

This is true. But no biggie, she's all fixed now; probably.
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: BobbyB on May 17, 2016, 11:16:43 AM
Went to the pick and pull with dad on Saturday after browsing a maddenly small and over priced gunshow. Every Jeep was picked over with the stuff I was looking for, all that was left was rusted crap.. Oh well maybe I will order from Rock Auto.
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: JR on May 17, 2016, 11:47:23 AM
I just got a cat from rock auto for less than everyone even with shipping!
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: stlaser on May 17, 2016, 12:10:09 PM
You get that motor while u were there?
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: BobbyB on May 17, 2016, 12:33:10 PM
I just got a cat from rock auto for less than everyone even with shipping!

I've ordered from them before, just been awhile. The exhaust is one area that I'm going to be doing some work.

You get that motor while u were there?

Those are the first thing that place pulls; well them or the (higher quality) parts place next door pulls.
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: JR on May 17, 2016, 03:54:27 PM
Maybe look for a wrecked one for the motor. To bad your so far, some guy wants me take one from him, I just don't have room.
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: BobbyB on May 18, 2016, 02:29:51 AM
Maybe look for a wrecked one for the motor. To bad your so far, some guy wants me take one from him, I just don't have room.

Almost all the motors are pulled. You don't see many engines in that yard. The ones that are there are damaged from front end collisions and etc, so basically useless.
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: JR on May 18, 2016, 03:14:21 AM
I mean not in the yard, parts trucks on cl. I see suburban stuff all the time. Not to rub in but lots of xj's in yards.
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: BobbyB on May 18, 2016, 09:30:12 AM
I mean not in the yard, parts trucks on cl. I see suburban stuff all the time. Not to rub in but lots of xj's in yards.

I do. But I've decided to do small things first before I go to the motor.

Plus the car needs new tires, so there's that as well.
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: swbhobie16 on May 18, 2016, 01:13:06 PM
2" budget boost and 31" ATs in whatever flavor you decide on and call it done. no steering or track bar corrections with anything under 3", but a worthwhile upgrade should the need arise is a Rusty's knuckle to knuckle steering conversion. straight forward install, tosses the old Y link steering out the window to keep the same geometry no matter how far the suspension travels.
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: BobbyB on May 18, 2016, 03:32:48 PM
2" budget boost and 31" ATs in whatever flavor you decide on and call it done. no steering or track bar corrections with anything under 3", but a worthwhile upgrade should the need arise is a Rusty's knuckle to knuckle steering conversion. straight forward install, tosses the old Y link steering out the window to keep the same geometry no matter how far the suspension travels.

Well IF, I get around to lifting, 3" is what I've pretty much decided on. But everything else you said has been written down on my notepad, now if I can keep from spilling water, coffee or milk on it like my last one...
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: swbhobie16 on May 18, 2016, 05:56:21 PM
3" you'll need an adjustable track bar, (usually comes with a HD mount as well) but everything else is just the same.

I can get a pick of one we just did that is 3" and 31ish tires. looks sharp. has newer rubicon rims on it, so they're 17s. has to get wheel spacer/adapters for it. (not needed if you're keeping the same rims..)

3" looks great on those XJs with stock fenders.
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: BobbyB on May 18, 2016, 06:22:14 PM
3" you'll need an adjustable track bar, (usually comes with a HD mount as well) but everything else is just the same.

I can get a pick of one we just did that is 3" and 31ish tires. looks sharp. has newer rubicon rims on it, so they're 17s. has to get wheel spacer/adapters for it. (not needed if you're keeping the same rims..)

3" looks great on those XJs with stock fenders.

I was going to get the flat fender flares, but then realized it wouldn't look right with only 31s. But I also need to order a new passenger fender, rust ate a nice chunk out of it. Then order new stock flares.

Let's see the pic when you get a chance. I bought some Grizzly rims, that were on option on XJs supposedly. Only cost me $100 for five, but need to get them blasted then powdercoated, unless i blast them and then prime and rattle can them.
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: swbhobie16 on May 18, 2016, 08:29:36 PM
how it showed up..
(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/EAC12927-7923-4BE4-A73D-F2B24B514484.jpg)

and it promptly ended up like this  ;D
(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/53C95D1E-B8E2-41EE-B111-8DA37AC0FBBE.jpg)

front coils, sway bar links, shocks, rotors, spacers and lower control arms
(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/FDCB61E5-75EE-493A-9217-4FD64557648A.jpg)

Rusty's knuckle to knuckle
(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/EF035898-E16C-4065-9881-937EF6BF2C90.jpg)

and all together (rears are just leaf packs, nothing special there. can easily be done with shackles as well..)
(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/8B56AE3F-DA62-4307-B61E-FB2BA0E267E7.jpg)

and then this..
(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/A71D0275-C780-4B17-9172-9AD0F6527CC4.jpg)

bc of this.. notice that green liquid stuff in the cylinders  :-\
(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/FC00DC7C-6299-4ACD-B54E-70210E192403.jpg)

the problem.. cracked head. so.. I give you:
(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/5839B9E7-FA99-4837-923D-93D866371743.jpg)

all cleaned up
(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/7C29EEFD-2C4C-4DD6-8ADD-1FF966D6A78B.jpg)

and done
(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/28700589-DBE3-49A9-A24E-506D5B5B08E1.jpg)

Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: JR on May 18, 2016, 08:49:39 PM
That does look nice.
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: Flyin6 on May 18, 2016, 09:56:04 PM
That looks good!
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: stlaser on May 18, 2016, 10:07:49 PM
Bobby's thread just got the hi jack......
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: Flyin6 on May 18, 2016, 10:09:04 PM
Bobby's thread just got the hi jack......
Sweet!
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: swbhobie16 on May 18, 2016, 10:10:45 PM
Bobby's thread just got the hi jack......

bu.. but.. I thought I was helping  :-\
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: JR on May 19, 2016, 12:09:23 AM
Bobby's thread just got the hi jack......

bu.. but.. I thought I was helping  :-\

You did just fine,,,,,,,,,,,,,DOT
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: BobbyB on May 19, 2016, 02:45:52 AM
Bobby's thread just got the hi jack......

It'll happen. Now the thread will silently and slowly disappear from the top of the page.


Sweet!

We haven't forgotten about your threads!



bu.. but.. I thought I was helping  :-\

Good job on that white XJ. I've seen Rubicon wheels and tires for sale up around here, but $1,000ish.
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: swbhobie16 on May 19, 2016, 07:07:06 AM
yea.. they were not cheap. but he got what i thought was a decent deal on them. it's what he wanted, so it's what we put on. hahah. it's hard to go wrong with a set of American racing or crager black soft 8s 15" with a decent all terrains though. just makes it look clean, yet functional.

that was a relatively rise free jeep, but we did take the axles out, wire wheel the bottom and re under coated it. made a night and day difference IMO.
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: BobbyB on May 19, 2016, 09:14:41 AM
yea.. they were not cheap. but he got what i thought was a decent deal on them. it's what he wanted, so it's what we put on. hahah. it's hard to go wrong with a set of American racing or crager black soft 8s 15" with a decent all terrains though. just makes it look clean, yet functional.

that was a relatively rise free jeep, but we did take the axles out, wire wheel the bottom and re under coated it. made a night and day difference IMO.

Nice.
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: BobbyB on December 12, 2016, 06:14:49 AM
Replaced a fuel injector and spark plug on Cylinder 1. Did the re-learn on it and no code so far.
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: BobbyB on December 16, 2016, 06:03:31 AM
Last night after work, I replaced the remaining spark plugs, installed all new wires, distributor cap and rotor on XJ.

Cleared the code again....  ::)
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: BobbyB on June 28, 2017, 07:48:38 AM
XJ is gone. Got tired of it sitting in the parking lot, so I donated it to the Rawhide Boys ranch.




Thread complete...  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: cudakidd53 on June 28, 2017, 08:20:58 AM
If true, this is a sad day.  :sad:
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: Flyin6 on June 28, 2017, 08:21:57 AM
Say it isn't true!

Bobby with no 4WD?
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: cj7ox on June 28, 2017, 09:11:45 AM
 :cry: :cry: :cry:
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: Sammconn on June 28, 2017, 11:17:17 AM
Noble donation...
Bobby needs wheels...
And 4wd, good for you Bobby, what's next?
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: BobbyB on June 28, 2017, 12:35:04 PM
If true, this is a sad day.  :sad:

It's true. It was picked up and hauled off while I was at work yesterday.


Say it isn't true!

Bobby with no 4WD?

Very true. Only my car now.


:cry: :cry: :cry:

I'll survive, just means a new search.


Noble donation...
Bobby needs wheels...
And 4wd, good for you Bobby, what's next?

I'm waiting to see what pops up, no real hurry to get something. Means I can put money aside and possibly get something newer with less miles.
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: TexasRedNeck on June 28, 2017, 01:02:22 PM
And what's the status with the lady friend?


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Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: Sammconn on June 28, 2017, 01:14:16 PM
And what's the status with the lady friend?


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I'll bet she has a 4x4... :cool:
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: BobbyB on June 28, 2017, 01:35:19 PM
And what's the status with the lady friend?

She's still here.


I'll bet she has a 4x4... :cool:

She does indeed. She drives a Jeep Liberty.
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: cj7ox on June 28, 2017, 01:53:11 PM
She does indeed. She drives a Jeep Liberty.

I don't think that quite qualifies, Bobby, but at least it's a Jeep.
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: BobbyB on June 28, 2017, 05:34:21 PM
I don't think that quite qualifies, Bobby, but at least it's a Jeep.

Well the only requirement was " bet she drives a 4x4" so it qualifies! Lol even though it's all stock.. but still.
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: TexasRedNeck on June 28, 2017, 06:54:43 PM
My wife drove a liberty when her van was in the shop a couple years ago and she really really liked it.

So what's it been Bobby, 9 months?  Any serious plans developing?
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: BobbyB on June 28, 2017, 07:07:21 PM
My wife drove a liberty when her van was in the shop a couple years ago and she really really liked it.

So what's it been Bobby, 9 months?  Any serious plans developing?

Monday was 7.
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: Nate on June 28, 2017, 07:59:38 PM
DAMN............!!!!!!!!!!!!!

give the man some breathing room.....................ROFLMFAO!
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: BobbyB on June 28, 2017, 09:32:46 PM
DAMN............!!!!!!!!!!!!!

give the man some breathing room.....................ROFLMFAO!

It's no biggie. My moment of mourning over XJ's departure is over.
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: TexasRedNeck on June 29, 2017, 07:23:23 AM
I think he was referring to the "plans" comment. The fact that he knows 7 months to the day is strong evidence this is no passing thing....


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Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: cudakidd53 on June 29, 2017, 08:06:16 AM
Come on guys.......didn't you see these signs earlier?  Property search, XJ neglect, Bear not being mentioned, low post totals.......GOOD FOR BOBBY!   :beercheers:
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: BobbyB on June 29, 2017, 08:26:17 AM
Come on guys.......didn't you see these signs earlier?  Property search, XJ neglect, Bear not being mentioned, low post totals.......GOOD FOR BOBBY!   :beercheers:

In order of bold text.

1. Hate apartment living. One day there was too much noise and I finally said I'm done.

2. XJ was turning into a nickel and dime money pit and I got tired of chasing one problem into another.

3. Bear is still awesome. That's another reason I want my own place.

4. For a while I wasn't able to log on due to that bug, so I was around just couldn't post.

But thank you. And I remember the timeframe as I met her 2 days before I started my new job at work.
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: cj7ox on June 29, 2017, 11:35:17 AM
Come on guys.......didn't you see these signs earlier?  Property search, XJ neglect, Bear not being mentioned, low post totals.......GOOD FOR BOBBY!   :beercheers:

In order of bold text.

1. Hate apartment living. One day there was too much noise and I finally said I'm done.

2. XJ was turning into a nickel and dime money pit and I got tired of chasing one problem into another.

3. Bear is still awesome. That's another reason I want my own place.

4. For a while I wasn't able to log on due to that bug, so I was around just couldn't post.

But thank you. And I remember the timeframe as I met her 2 days before I started my new job at work.

 :likebutton:

Way to set'em all straight, Bobby! LOL
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: Bob Smith on June 29, 2017, 11:41:08 AM
I am thinking Bobby is not the one to pick on. He is always prepared to set it straight.
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: BobbyB on June 29, 2017, 01:27:23 PM

 :likebutton:

Way to set'em all straight, Bobby! LOL

I am thinking Bobby is not the one to pick on. He is always prepared to set it straight.


Lol thanks.
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: Flyin6 on July 01, 2017, 11:31:13 AM
Bobby,

Watching you "Grow" on your thread here is like watching an episode of "HeartLand"

It's all good and wholesome, and we all hold out so much hope for you and your future, I know it is going to be a bright one. And for my two nickles, I'm betting it will be a walk you will not make alone!

But

I do (Selfishly) want to see you in a proper 4X4...I with the Tanker on that point!
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: stlaser on July 01, 2017, 01:20:11 PM
Plenty other Jeeps to buy any day of the week.

Disregard anything big D might say about them not being proper 4x material. I believe he's just sore from rolling that one he owned years ago..... :popcorn:
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: Flyin6 on July 01, 2017, 10:56:38 PM
Plenty other Jeeps to buy any day of the week.

Disregard anything big D might say about them not being proper 4x material. I believe he's just sore from rolling that one he owned years ago..... :popcorn:
Hey I own one now!
Sort of
Well, I make the payments on it!
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: JR on July 02, 2017, 12:38:36 AM
I am gone for a week and miss all the fun.

RIP XJ  :cry:
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: rpar86 on July 02, 2017, 02:09:45 AM
Been driving a Wrangler unlimited this week on vacation... not impressed.
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: swbhobie16 on July 02, 2017, 08:12:50 AM
Been driving a Wrangler unlimited this week on vacation... not impressed.

bc you're driving a glorified grand caravan.. without the benefits of auto sliding rear doors and worse fuel mileage. hahaha.

(this is all stock, of course. they can be opened up, but enterprise isn't going to do that)
Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: BobbyB on July 02, 2017, 09:17:39 AM
Bobby,

Watching you "Grow" on your thread here is like watching an episode of "HeartLand"

It's all good and wholesome, and we all hold out so much hope for you and your future, I know it is going to be a bright one. And for my two nickles, I'm betting it will be a walk you will not make alone!

But

I do (Selfishly) want to see you in a proper 4X4...I with the Tanker on that point!

Oh I'll eventually get something to replace XJ. As of now throwing money aside for the house (still looking), getting ready to go enroll on college, and pay down debt has more of a priority for me.

Plenty other Jeeps to buy any day of the week.

Disregard anything big D might say about them not being proper 4x material. I believe he's just sore from rolling that one he owned years ago..... :popcorn:

I check out jeeps all the time. Keeping the eyes open.

I am gone for a week and miss all the fun.

RIP XJ  :cry:


It's all ok. I could've gotten you all like I got Nate. Sent him a couple pics of a 2012 lifted DMax with 86,5xx miles, told him "so this just happened." It was at my sister and brother in law's shop getting some radio/electronic work done on it. Naturally he had to park it behind my car so I had to stare at it while getting the new radio put into the car...

While it would've been epic to get it, I'm not willing to drop $40,000 on a truck, no matter how much I loved it.


Title: Re: 1998 Jeep XJ
Post by: Nate on July 03, 2017, 01:22:10 PM
 :knucklehead:
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