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Wanted 68-76 Cadillac 500 engine rebuildable core
« on: February 02, 2019, 10:43:51 PM »
472’s need not apply, just what it states looking for a complete free spinning 500 from a 68-76 caddy. Closer to Denver the better but can and will pay for shipping.

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Re: Wanted 68-76 Cadillac 500 engine rebuildable core
« Reply #1 on: February 02, 2019, 11:36:19 PM »
Almost put one of those in my '73 GMC. Tossed the seized 500 in the scrap yard and went with a 400 Pontiac instead.
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Re: Wanted 68-76 Cadillac 500 engine rebuildable core
« Reply #2 on: February 03, 2019, 12:03:46 AM »
Almost put one of those in my '73 GMC. Tossed the seized 500 in the scrap yard and went with a 400 Pontiac instead.

Well I found one in Columbus NE.......

Over in Nate & Norms stomping grounds I think? Buddy of mine had a 400 Pontiac in his M715 so think I'll pass on that. Was seriously considering an LS and although I like the idea of it and the weight it's like an opinion, everybody has one. I considered a 12v up until I decided it was way too heavy for my liking and had been done quite a bit. I tend to like unique builds and a stroked 541 that weighs in at around a SB Chevy would be pretty unique!
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Re: Wanted 68-76 Cadillac 500 engine rebuildable core
« Reply #3 on: February 03, 2019, 12:04:20 AM »
Just did a quick check, but came up empty handed. I think I can find one though. Hey, Shawn, have you considered the 8.1 Chevy? 496 cu in and lots of parts.
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Re: Wanted 68-76 Cadillac 500 engine rebuildable core
« Reply #4 on: February 03, 2019, 12:07:15 AM »
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Re: Wanted 68-76 Cadillac 500 engine rebuildable core
« Reply #5 on: February 03, 2019, 12:08:22 AM »
Just did a quick check, but came up empty handed. I think I can find one though. Hey, Shawn, have you considered the 8.1 Chevy? 496 cu in and lots of parts.


I did and it is an option but would be a couple hundred more in weight than the caddy
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Re: Wanted 68-76 Cadillac 500 engine rebuildable core
« Reply #6 on: February 03, 2019, 12:10:28 AM »
Found it

https://cincinnati.craigslist.org/pts/d/sunman-500-cadillac-engine/6804511728.html

Sunman Indiana

Want me to get it for you?


Apparently you need to take the whole car? I have a great vendor in Sunman, IN. lets hang tight for the moment and maybe I can square away this one in NE. I appreciate the offer.
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Re: Wanted 68-76 Cadillac 500 engine rebuildable core
« Reply #7 on: February 03, 2019, 12:11:22 AM »
OK, let me know
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Re: Wanted 68-76 Cadillac 500 engine rebuildable core
« Reply #8 on: February 03, 2019, 12:45:46 AM »
In case anyone is wondering why I’m looking at going this route for an engine this is a great read.

https://www.cad500parts.com/catalog/page6.htm
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Re: Wanted 68-76 Cadillac 500 engine rebuildable core
« Reply #9 on: February 03, 2019, 01:40:41 AM »
You pay my fuel and put me up for the night and ill transport for you?
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Re: Wanted 68-76 Cadillac 500 engine rebuildable core
« Reply #10 on: February 03, 2019, 02:13:26 AM »
Cool. Those suckers put down some torque, for sure. That's why I was going down that path, but the 400 my old boss sold me was a 71 firebird engine...365hp before we worked it over. Wore it out and got a 455 to build but still haven't. Ended up sticking another 400 in it that I built for a 68 Tempest... now I want to put a dmax in the poor mans goat...some day.
  And the 73 will still roast the tires off with that small big block.
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Re: Wanted 68-76 Cadillac 500 engine rebuildable core
« Reply #11 on: February 03, 2019, 08:44:48 AM »
You pay my fuel and put me up for the night and ill transport for you?

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Re: Wanted 68-76 Cadillac 500 engine rebuildable core
« Reply #12 on: February 03, 2019, 08:46:30 AM »
Cool. Those suckers put down some torque, for sure. That's why I was going down that path, but the 400 my old boss sold me was a 71 firebird engine...365hp before we worked it over. Wore it out and got a 455 to build but still haven't. Ended up sticking another 400 in it that I built for a 68 Tempest... now I want to put a dmax in the poor mans goat...some day.
  And the 73 will still roast the tires off with that small big block.

Dmax I the 73 would be cool  :likebutton:
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Re: Wanted 68-76 Cadillac 500 engine rebuildable core
« Reply #13 on: February 03, 2019, 08:12:53 PM »
Shawn, this is an intriguing idea you have. I never looked at the Caddy engine. THought it weighed in like a 6BT. I think you are on to something here. Stock build, freshened up making 500 ft lbs, lightly built another 100 and pushed making a mind numbing 800HP

So, I talked to an engine builder today over in eastern OH. Smart guy, although diesel. He likes that motor and knew about the high nickel blocks and the dead reliability of the thing...
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Re: Wanted 68-76 Cadillac 500 engine rebuildable core
« Reply #14 on: February 03, 2019, 08:17:47 PM »
Those 500s are monsters and lightweight.

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Re: Wanted 68-76 Cadillac 500 engine rebuildable core
« Reply #15 on: February 03, 2019, 08:19:12 PM »
Shawn, this is an intriguing idea you have. I never looked at the Caddy engine. THought it weighed in like a 6BT. I think you are on to something here. Stock build, freshened up making 500 ft lbs, lightly built another 100 and pushed making a mind numbing 800HP

So, I talked to an engine builder today over in eastern OH. Smart guy, although diesel. He likes that motor and knew about the high nickel blocks and the dead reliability of the thing...

Reliability is way up there too on a slightly built motor. Easy to add fuel injection with sniper or similar setups. Hei distributors available for them so one wire hookup too
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Re: Wanted 68-76 Cadillac 500 engine rebuildable core
« Reply #16 on: February 03, 2019, 08:22:23 PM »
That thing is begging for a Square body Suburban to shove around!
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« Reply #17 on: February 03, 2019, 08:23:18 PM »
That thing is begging for a Square body Suburban to shove around!

Thinking old heavy military Jeep.... :wink:
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Re: Wanted 68-76 Cadillac 500 engine rebuildable core
« Reply #18 on: February 03, 2019, 08:43:46 PM »
I know where 2 1977 caddies are sitting in a field.   Want me to inquire?


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« Reply #19 on: February 03, 2019, 08:46:17 PM »
I know where 2 1977 caddies are sitting in a field.   Want me to inquire?


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If they are in fact 1977 then no. Only made them from 68-76
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« Reply #20 on: February 03, 2019, 08:57:39 PM »
I am 99.9 positive they are 77.  Brother-in-law has a collection of them.   


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« Reply #21 on: February 03, 2019, 09:02:49 PM »
That thing is begging for a Square body Suburban to shove around!

Thinking old heavy military Jeep.... :wink:
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Re: Wanted 68-76 Cadillac 500 engine rebuildable core
« Reply #22 on: February 03, 2019, 09:06:59 PM »
I am 99.9 positive they are 77.  Brother-in-law has a collection of them.   


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If he’s your BIL by all means hit him up. My guess they maybe the 472’s if they are 77’s
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« Reply #23 on: February 03, 2019, 09:08:23 PM »
That thing is begging for a Square body Suburban to shove around!

Thinking old heavy military Jeep.... :wink:
Lighter than a burb

Might not be when I get done with the Jeep.... :wink:

Technically and I just looked it up the k20 was 100# heavier than the m715 if the m715 did not come optioned with that 500# winch....
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« Reply #24 on: February 03, 2019, 09:11:44 PM »
Return message says they had 425(?) and both got sold last summer.   Sorry


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Re: Wanted 68-76 Cadillac 500 engine rebuildable core
« Reply #25 on: February 03, 2019, 09:18:44 PM »
Thanks for asking, good friend of mine has a 429 he told me today. I’ve found two, one is near Norm & Nate but guy has yet to reply. I’d like to go see that one but there is another down south near Albuquerque too I found. Have a couple other closer leads so will check those out in the morning.
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« Reply #26 on: February 03, 2019, 09:25:27 PM »
Doubt your looking this far south, but if there’s something you stumble on and need eyes I’ll go look, and try to turn the crank. I’d imagine you’ll find one sooner than I go to the junk yard again but I’ll check next time I’m down there.

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« Reply #27 on: February 03, 2019, 09:36:08 PM »
Doubt your looking this far south, but if there’s something you stumble on and need eyes I’ll go look, and try to turn the crank. I’d imagine you’ll find one sooner than I go to the junk yard again but I’ll check next time I’m down there.

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Re: Wanted 68-76 Cadillac 500 engine rebuildable core
« Reply #28 on: February 03, 2019, 10:15:52 PM »
https://neworleans.craigslist.org/ctd/d/taylor-1955-chevy-210-2dr-wagon/6797413881.html

This guy has some cool stuff.  No caddy motor but some neat stuff
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« Reply #29 on: February 03, 2019, 10:19:13 PM »
https://neworleans.craigslist.org/ctd/d/taylor-1955-chevy-210-2dr-wagon/6797413881.html

This guy has some cool stuff.  No caddy motor but some neat stuff

If I had the extra money and real estate that coe wrecker would be mine!
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« Reply #30 on: February 03, 2019, 10:22:31 PM »
This guy may be your twin.  500 hes thinking of putting in a m37

https://neworleans.craigslist.org/pts/d/raceland-older-engines/6791949152.html

I like the 52 COE the other guy had
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« Reply #31 on: February 03, 2019, 10:26:06 PM »
This guy may be your twin.  500 hes thinking of putting in a m37

https://neworleans.craigslist.org/pts/d/raceland-older-engines/6791949152.html

I like the 52 COE the other guy had

Not sure about twin but smart guy.... :likebutton:
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« Reply #32 on: February 03, 2019, 11:15:30 PM »
Doubt your looking this far south, but if there’s something you stumble on and need eyes I’ll go look, and try to turn the crank. I’d imagine you’ll find one sooner than I go to the junk yard again but I’ll check next time I’m down there.

Thanks, what part of az again?

Sierra Vista is the closest real town. But I’m an hour from Tucson so there’s another large area for ya. Albuquerque is 6 hours from me, which is half way to Denver I believe, could meet you there with one if you found one down here.

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« Reply #33 on: February 03, 2019, 11:48:46 PM »
Doubt your looking this far south, but if there’s something you stumble on and need eyes I’ll go look, and try to turn the crank. I’d imagine you’ll find one sooner than I go to the junk yard again but I’ll check next time I’m down there.

Thanks, what part of az again?

Sierra Vista is the closest real town. But I’m an hour from Tucson so there’s another large area for ya. Albuquerque is 6 hours from me, which is half way to Denver I believe, could meet you there with one if you found one down here.

Well, I found one in tombstone but it comes with two transmissions I have no use for & looking at his asking price he’s fairly proud of it..... :rolleyes:
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« Reply #34 on: February 04, 2019, 09:56:26 AM »
Doubt your looking this far south, but if there’s something you stumble on and need eyes I’ll go look, and try to turn the crank. I’d imagine you’ll find one sooner than I go to the junk yard again but I’ll check next time I’m down there.

Thanks, what part of az again?

Sierra Vista is the closest real town. But I’m an hour from Tucson so there’s another large area for ya. Albuquerque is 6 hours from me, which is half way to Denver I believe, could meet you there with one if you found one down here.

Well, I found one in tombstone but it comes with two transmissions I have no use for & looking at his asking price he’s fairly proud of it..... :rolleyes:

That’s just down the street from the house. I saw a rat rod build in cottonwood, north of of Phoenix. He put the 500 in it, wanted 3500 for the build. What are the 500s worth? I imagine there are lots of folks who know what it is and think that it’s made of gold and ask like prices. But it’s not like an overly popular engine so they can’t be worth that much.

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Re: Wanted 68-76 Cadillac 500 engine rebuildable core
« Reply #35 on: February 04, 2019, 10:42:38 AM »
$400-$600 I think

Guys is on cl stated he was firm on price, granted he had two trans he wanted gone with it but I have no use for them. I can adapt a newer gm od auto to it easily enough.
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Re: Wanted 68-76 Cadillac 500 engine rebuildable core
« Reply #36 on: February 04, 2019, 11:12:48 AM »
You would prefer a 700r to a T400 on something with that much torque?
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« Reply #37 on: February 04, 2019, 11:27:22 AM »
You would prefer a 700r to a T400 on something with that much torque?

Thinking 4L80
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« Reply #38 on: February 04, 2019, 12:04:08 PM »
$400-$600 I think

Guys is on cl stated he was firm on price, granted he had two trans he wanted gone with it but I have no use for them. I can adapt a newer gm od auto to it easily enough.

so the guy wants 2 trans gone with the engine, is he asking that far out there for that to happen?

whats the worst that could happen, have them both rebuilt and sell them for what you have in them?
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« Reply #39 on: February 04, 2019, 12:19:19 PM »
I’ll find an engine for $600 or less w/o the extra baggage. Recall again real estate is a premium here and those trans are not in high demand
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« Reply #40 on: February 04, 2019, 12:29:55 PM »
You would prefer a 700r to a T400 on something with that much torque?

Thinking 4L80

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Re: Wanted 68-76 Cadillac 500 engine rebuildable core
« Reply #41 on: February 04, 2019, 01:05:51 PM »
Oh, didn't think you wanted electronic.
Might as well go with a 6.0 .
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« Reply #42 on: February 04, 2019, 01:17:04 PM »
Oh, didn't think you wanted electronic.
Might as well go with a 6.0 .

You mean 6l80e I’m assuming?
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« Reply #43 on: February 04, 2019, 01:48:42 PM »
I’ll find an engine for $600 or less w/o the extra baggage. Recall again real estate is a premium here and those trans are not in high demand


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Re: Wanted 68-76 Cadillac 500 engine rebuildable core
« Reply #44 on: February 04, 2019, 03:05:17 PM »
I meant a 6.0 engine.

Wait, are you talking 'bout a 4l80 without the e?  ...a 6 speed?
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« Reply #45 on: February 04, 2019, 04:24:25 PM »
Ken, I’m talking transmission. Got the motor figured out just need to find one. Ls swaps are like opinions and I’m not enthusiastic about doing another...
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Re: Wanted 68-76 Cadillac 500 engine rebuildable core
« Reply #46 on: February 04, 2019, 04:42:30 PM »
The 1991 had a stand alone PCM for the trans, only year. Mine works great in the 85 burb, not sure of the PCM though. What PCM you looking at?
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Re: Wanted 68-76 Cadillac 500 engine rebuildable core
« Reply #47 on: February 04, 2019, 04:59:14 PM »
The 1991 had a stand alone PCM for the trans, only year. Mine works great in the 85 burb, not sure of the PCM though. What PCM you looking at?

TCI, probably trans and controller....
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Re: Wanted 68-76 Cadillac 500 engine rebuildable core
« Reply #48 on: February 04, 2019, 05:31:45 PM »
I know you're talking trans. I said if you're going to use an electronic trans, you might as well use a 6.0 engine...sarcastically.

second question is which 80 series, a 4 speed (older electronic) or the newer 6 speed.
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Re: Wanted 68-76 Cadillac 500 engine rebuildable core
« Reply #49 on: February 04, 2019, 06:05:57 PM »
I know you're talking trans. I said if you're going to use an electronic trans, you might as well use a 6.0 engine...sarcastically.

second question is which 80 series, a 4 speed (older electronic) or the newer 6 speed.

Should have figured you would be giving me crap....

Honestly, don’t know haven’t researched it that far. You have a preference (scratch that) I know you have an opinion so spit it out.

Also think I may have located a motor, 1/4 mile from shop (no joke) salvage yard I’ve been meaning to stop at responded to an email today (while they were closed, open sat closed mondays) anyhow owner said we was 90% sure he had one but would confirm with yard boss in am. Next question will be what he wants for it. Found another 6 hours south in Albuquerque for 5 bills too. But i like the commute across the street!
« Last Edit: February 04, 2019, 06:21:16 PM by KensAuto »
Living in the remote north hoping Ken doesn’t bring H up here any time soon…..

 

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