Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion

[Nate]

why do all kinds of fiddling with bending pipe and such when you can just buy the correct tarp and bow set for those trailers.......?

https://www.easternsurplus.net/PartsList/161/TLRPRT

http://www.armysurpluswarehouse.com/military-vehicle-parts.html?limit=all&mode=list

https://www.google.com/search?q=us+army+hmmwv+trailer+tarp+set&oq=us+army+hmmwv+trailer+tarp+set&gs_l=psy-ab.3..33i21k1.3029.3792.0.4454.2.2.0.0.0.0.118.188.1j1.2.0....0...1.1.64.psy-ab..0.1.70.5PbPJKVh96M

just to name a couple of sites.

[Sammconn]

why do all kinds of fiddling with bending pipe and such when you can just buy the correct tarp and bow set for those trailers.......?

https://www.easternsurplus.net/PartsList/161/TLRPRT

http://www.armysurpluswarehouse.com/military-vehicle-parts.html?limit=all&mode=list

https://www.google.com/search?q=us+army+hmmwv+trailer+tarp+set&oq=us+army+hmmwv+trailer+tarp+set&gs_l=psy-ab.3..33i21k1.3029.3792.0.4454.2.2.0.0.0.0.118.188.1j1.2.0....0...1.1.64.psy-ab..0.1.70.5PbPJKVh96M

just to name a couple of sites.

But this doesn't cost money (as much), skin, blood etc.
Thinking tac topper...

[JR]

I found a cover for mine in So Cal for $600, now they are 1200.

Cool sites.

[Flyin6]

why do all kinds of fiddling with bending pipe and such when you can just buy the correct tarp and bow set for those trailers.......?

https://www.easternsurplus.net/PartsList/161/TLRPRT

http://www.armysurpluswarehouse.com/military-vehicle-parts.html?limit=all&mode=list

https://www.google.com/search?q=us+army+hmmwv+trailer+tarp+set&oq=us+army+hmmwv+trailer+tarp+set&gs_l=psy-ab.3..33i21k1.3029.3792.0.4454.2.2.0.0.0.0.118.188.1j1.2.0....0...1.1.64.psy-ab..0.1.70.5PbPJKVh96M

just to name a couple of sites.

$1125!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Nate
What are you smokin?????

[JR]

The conduit works great. Tarps are cheap and the 1101 even has loops for straps.

[Flyin6]

The conduit works great. Tarps are cheap and the 1101 even has loops for straps.

I liked the idea the second I read it

Rain tomorrow from the Hurricane, so I'll run out and score a pile of conduit, then spend the day fabbing up a cage.

Cover that with something like my wife's old quilt that I can't stand and off we go to the races!

[JR]

I used 4 posts on my little trailer (old chevy love) that has a flat rail I simply drilled into and used long bolts through pipe.

I think 4 would be fine on the 1101 but I would use 1 in.

[Flyin6]

I used 4 posts on my little trailer (old chevy love) that has a flat rail I simply drilled into and used long bolts through pipe.

I think 4 would be fine on the 1101 but I would use 1 in.

Well, when I was thinking it over I thought I'd weld longitudinal bars in to connect all of the hoops. Four sound reasonable, although I was thinking of making six. The trailer already has holes in the top rail through which I could run bolts. My idea is to bend the hoops, weld a nut up inside of the tube, then bolt through from the bottom. Simple enough and easily done

I'll fuss with it some tomorrow. I got both tanks mounted today along with a faucet mounted through the back wall. I'll post up pics tomorrow.

Had to rush off for another football game. Pre-Ranger's team smoked up another school tonight. 24-6 this time. that makes 2-0 and have scored 68 points and allowed only 12 points against them. Mine plays center and all over the defense this year.

[JR]

Congrads on the wins, must be great to watch. Daughter does cross country. I go but its a yawner.

Looking at all the mounts on the 1101, I thought a piece of 1/8 bar with posts welded on. Tarping it squeezes the out hoops so a simple brace could be in order on top.

[Sammconn]

I missed the prices. $1200 yikes!
So yeah, bend some hoops and tarp it.
Given its Big D I'd have to agree minimum 3/4" but 1" likely best (thin wall)
If it's rigid conduit, the 3/4 would likely suffice.

[Nate]

Hey now!

Im just trying to prevent another tac topper incident from happening. .......

[KensAuto]

Hey now!

Im just trying to prevent another tac topper incident from happening. .......

Yeah, we don't need another one of those!!   

[Flyin6]

Hey now!

Im just trying to prevent another tac topper incident from happening. .......

Hey G.I., you thinky me rich or sometin'??

Besides, the Tac topper was werkin' just got a bit heavy...

[Flyin6]

I missed the prices. $1200 yikes!
So yeah, bend some hoops and tarp it.
Given its Big D I'd have to agree minimum 3/4" but 1" likely best (thin wall)
If it's rigid conduit, the 3/4 would likely suffice.

I'm not that hard on stuff...It's just that stuff isn't as tough as it used to be! ;-)

[JR]

That 3/4 is stout on the little trailer but is only 5ft across.

[Flyin6]

That 3/4 is stout on the little trailer but is only 5ft across.

Mine is over 7 feet across.
Went to the lumber yard. They had 1/2", 3/4", but no 1"
I'll swing over to SLOWES tomorrow

[JR]

With being it comes in 10ft lengths it will only be about 16in high with the bends.

May want to join them in the center so you get more height out of it plus they are a little cheaper in a 10 pack.

[Flyin6]

With being it comes in 10ft lengths it will only be about 16in high with the bends.

May want to join them in the center so you get more height out of it plus they are a little cheaper in a 10 pack.

Good idea.

[Flyin6]

First fitting of the water tank with the fuel tank...It was looking pretty tight

[Flyin6]

I upsized the hose all the way to 3/4" with a corresponding fitting. It is a straight rascal, and that is going to prove to be a problem

[Flyin6]

With the H2O tank temporarily removed, I scooted the fuel tank around until I found a good spot, forward and offset to the left. That position allows easier servicing and room for the hose

[Flyin6]

I was able to hit all four bolts in the back, but none in the front side. THings are tight, and there is a whole lot of steel frame in the front. I estimate I might have needed an eight inch long bolt to get through everything!

[Flyin6]

For the front, I ran two cargo straps through the loops affixed to the tank, and anchored them to the trailer's built in lifting eye, "D" rings

[Flyin6]

I painted the trailer aft legs OD green, then secured them, pinning in the cargo strap tie-downs.

[Flyin6]

Like I mentioned, things is ah' tight!

The second pic has the water tank touching the fuel tank

[Flyin6]

Which means the trailer tailgate will not close! 

Next I fastened the 24 foot hose to the filter

[Flyin6]

This faucet is going into that hole

[Flyin6]

Which provides a good spot to protect it brom some offending tree or excavator part

[Flyin6]

Gravity feed for now to keep this project simple. I do have a pump on the ready if I need it

[Flyin6]

I'll find a 90 fitting to gain an inch or three, but even with, the gate will not close, so I will just live with it. Tank strappage is just starting to happen at this point

[JR]

Good start. No way to jockey the tank to clear the fitting? Add a fitting under the filler, lots of flat area it looks like?

[Flyin6]

Good start. No way to jockey the tank to clear the fitting? Add a fitting under the filler, lots of flat area it looks like?

I considered blocking that off and installing a bulkhead fitting somewhere else. Jury is still out on that one. Not completely done, and not super comfortable with boring a hole in the side of that tank...

[Sammconn]

It looks like there may be room foreword of the tank, or was that pre strapping?
Just rotate the tank a few degrees, and move the bung out of the way.
Unless it will still be in the way of other stuff.

[stlaser]

I was able to hit all four bolts in the back, but none in the front side. THings are tight, and there is a whole lot of steel frame in the front. I estimate I might have needed an eight inch long bolt to get through everything!

All thread

[Bigdave_185]

A little left from s good idea but what about warming up the plastic tank and molding it a little tighter into the fuel tank.  Risky for sure but doable with a good heat gun and some thick gloves


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[stlaser]

I think he just needs a bigger hammer and work on that tail gate a bit......

I mean he owns heavy equipment, hook that trailer to a tree & use the bucket on the excavator to massage the tail gate a little......

[KensAuto]

Come on guys, lets be a little more serious here. He could easily cut one side of that tank off, with a chainsaw, and it would clear the tailgate. Bending the tailgate seems a little extreme.  :)

[TexasRedNeck]

Don will a big extension on a drill/driver and some self drilling screws not work on the front of that fuel tank?


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[cudakidd53]

I was thinking rotate the water tank a bit counter clockwise might work?  Of course Shawn and Ken had valid ideas too.....

[Bigdave_185]

You can't rotate it because it has molded sides for wheel wells, check the photos in post 75


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[cudakidd53]

There is room for rotation, evidently not enough as it's already pointed toward 5:30.  Don, what if you mounted the large screw in bung from the inside and mounted the hose end 180 degrees opposite from how its is now?  Hose would be recessed inside tank allowing just the hose to protrude almost even with the exterior of the tank.  Obviously this would require inserting a pre-ranger by their ankles to screw it in the interior and also depend upon the threads extending all the way to the inside as well.  Just thinking outside the box/inside the tank!

[Flyin6]

I was thinking rotate the water tank a bit counter clockwise might work?  Of course Shawn and Ken had valid ideas too.....

Shawn and ken are brain dead, certifiable, of course! ;-)))

No one listens to em!

The tank is already rotated as much as it will go...And I was just at HD and forgot the dang blast 90 fitting!!!!!!!!

What kind of cut with the chain saw??? And what pitch chain? 8-0

[Flyin6]

I picked up 14 pieces of conduit.

Check this out. At the local lumber yard, they were asking $15.60 for one stick of 3/4"
I ended up going with 3/4" because I am going to build a lot more than just four hoops. Anyway, I paid $3.84 a stick at HD!

I picked up some 1.5" and some 3/4" gray PVC also to bury for a new circuit running from the shed addition to the camper and shelter additions. I'll have the load to carry more heater for this coming cold spell.

[TexasRedNeck]

Don I can't tell from the photos but can you notch the tailgate to clear the tank? Or just bow it out with the track hoe....


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[KensAuto]

someone didn't read the comments from above^^^

(or maybe he did, and sided with the hippy?)

[Flyin6]

someone didn't read the comments from above^^^

(or maybe he did, and sided with the hippy?)

Sorry Kenneth, still love ya man!

[stlaser]

 

[Flyin6]

Gotcha man, here goes:

So today I fetched all the parts for the hoop system. I decided to make it simple and quick, albeit gud-enough. That's a state of being where the darned thing can't be seen anyway, so let's just get this thing done already!

[Flyin6]

Had to pause there for some spaghetti with the grand kids. The smallest one is wearing about half of it, and the rest was happily consumed. The middle of the pack girl when asked, "Who's your favorite, Poppy or the dog?", answered, "Poppy!" So I'm ridin an emotional high right now, having nudged out scout for the fav for the evening.

FYI, all you Armee trailer, HMMV style, owners out there. All those mystery holes contain a 3/8" SAE coarse thread nut-sert

[Flyin6]

So I fabbed up four pieces of angle which I salvaged from the Sawmill crate into the hoop bases which each catch two of the bolt holes