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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #750 on: March 10, 2019, 01:29:43 PM »
Yeah, some pics would be nice. You know, no pics and it didn't happen.

Nice FA kit, was it about $150?

You do like getting things messy don't you. Bet a few words flew as the blood ran down your arms.           

I like magnaflows, went on my last 2 exhausts.
OK, but it may sadden you. Only a frame and a bed remains!
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #751 on: March 10, 2019, 03:47:35 PM »
You can steal me the fuel station door.   I’ll hang it on my wall


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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #752 on: March 10, 2019, 04:23:48 PM »
Yeah, some pics would be nice. You know, no pics and it didn't happen.

Nice FA kit, was it about $150?

You do like getting things messy don't you. Bet a few words flew as the blood ran down your arms.           

I like magnaflows, went on my last 2 exhausts.
OK, but it may sadden you. Only a frame and a bed remains!
Scratch that, bed just sold, now just a frame, hood snorkel and fender remains
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #753 on: March 10, 2019, 05:00:30 PM »
Yeah, some pics would be nice. You know, no pics and it didn't happen.

Nice FA kit, was it about $150?

You do like getting things messy don't you. Bet a few words flew as the blood ran down your arms.           

I like magnaflows, went on my last 2 exhausts.
OK, but it may sadden you. Only a frame and a bed remains!
Scratch that, bed just sold, now just a frame, hood snorkel and fender remains

This is simply amazing. A complete truck (albeit non running) down to a few pieces of body. God is definitely good!

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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #754 on: March 10, 2019, 05:14:26 PM »
Yep, knocking on the door of $30K! Might get past it...
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #755 on: March 10, 2019, 05:20:08 PM »
So, looking down the road, I'll have some decisions coming up in the near future

I am now looking at the Tuff Stuff 4X4 Ranger tent (3 man) or the "Elite" which is a 5 man. They say five man, but at 79" wide and 94" long, with some foot or head room to throw the clothes into, it is really a comfy two person tent. But that's a big footprint. Spanning 80" of roof and weighing in at around #200, it is a hoss. I could still probably fit a small basket in front to store the chairs and rain fly, but If I went with the Ranger with its smaller footprint, I would sacrifice some comfort, but gain valuable roof space to store stuff. I am going to look like one of those hopelessly overloaded trucks you see in Africa with like 40 people laying all over 15 feet tall stacks of reeds or cotton...
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #756 on: March 10, 2019, 05:24:09 PM »
^^^^^ Elite  has two ladders, Ranger has but one^^^^^^^^^
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #757 on: March 10, 2019, 05:52:16 PM »
Why not get a small trailer and mount it to that? Pull that and be able to not have to break camp and still use the suburban? Modify that one single axle military trailer you have with a real off road independent suspension (it’s simple, shoot me a message if you need info) and have the best of everything. You could even easily make that trailer have a top and be lockable.
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #758 on: March 10, 2019, 06:04:20 PM »
Why not get a small trailer and mount it to that? Pull that and be able to not have to break camp and still use the suburban? Modify that one single axle military trailer you have with a real off road independent suspension (it’s simple, shoot me a message if you need info) and have the best of everything. You could even easily make that trailer have a top and be lockable.

This is what we had! We had an Eezi Awn Globetrotter on top of an M416 trailer. Pulled it behind our 4 runner. Wife and I often reminisce about that setup, it was wonderful! However, the globetrotter today is stupid expensive.

I second turning the trailer into a lockable trailer top tent!!!

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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #759 on: March 10, 2019, 07:57:24 PM »
Why not get a small trailer and mount it to that? Pull that and be able to not have to break camp and still use the suburban? Modify that one single axle military trailer you have with a real off road independent suspension (it’s simple, shoot me a message if you need info) and have the best of everything. You could even easily make that trailer have a top and be lockable.

Sure, mount up a fiberglass topper, cut the top, add a boat trailer winch or two and....

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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #760 on: March 10, 2019, 07:59:16 PM »
Trailers don’t leak oil, lots of travel capacity added. I like the base camp idea also.   Trailer for the win!!


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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #761 on: March 10, 2019, 08:02:55 PM »
But then Don wouldn’t look like this when he has camp set up. I really do think he should go for the paint job.



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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #762 on: March 10, 2019, 08:38:12 PM »
But then Don wouldn’t look like this when he has camp set up. I really do think he should go for the paint job.



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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #763 on: March 10, 2019, 08:39:04 PM »
Trailer hugh...
Does the Warrant Officer have the time remaining to get that pulled off??
Trailer, hmmm
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #764 on: March 10, 2019, 08:39:29 PM »
That looks like SD before he painted it!!

I would not go with a trailer. You want to travel, not just camp. There will be 3 of you right? 1 in the back, 2 up top keep it simple and light. Easier to drive, better mileage and no backing issues.

If it becomes a camping vehicle, go with a trailer. Haul it out, drop it and you still have rig to run and a base camp.

Funny thing is I saw a 1011 on CL out here setup like that. Soft top with those camping bunk-beds and still plenty of room for a chair and fans.
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #765 on: March 10, 2019, 08:54:11 PM »
Why put a tent on the roof when you can throw one on the ground, and stored in something the size a duffle bag? Then get a fabric car topper to store baggage and what not into.
The second part is what I plan to do on my little trip since I'll have much less room than a burb has.
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #766 on: March 10, 2019, 09:11:41 PM »
Why put a tent on the roof when you can throw one on the ground, and stored in something the size a duffle bag? Then get a fabric car topper to store baggage and what not into.
The second part is what I plan to do on my little trip since I'll have much less room than a burb has.
About a 30 pound duffel bag is a pretty big tent too...

Then it’s on the ground. And a much easier everything...
I just don't want to wind up missing a digit or limb.  I can sometimes get in a hurry to get results.
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #767 on: March 10, 2019, 09:22:56 PM »
I like the idea of a small tent/trailer.  Mo storage and can be left set up for when you want to take Ravin8 to the store.


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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #768 on: March 10, 2019, 09:50:03 PM »
Trailers don’t leak oil, lots of travel capacity added. I like the base camp idea also.   Trailer for the win!!


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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #769 on: March 10, 2019, 10:45:57 PM »
1 of those quick setup tents and you are GTG. Trailers are for staying somewhere for a few days or hauling something. Sounds like this first trip is a "travel trip". Get a motel every few days to shower (or use a knuckleheads) and you are set.
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #770 on: March 10, 2019, 11:05:46 PM »


I can’t find any other pictures of the trailer we had. Still looking for some with the tent on it, but this is the picture from the day we picked it up. Great little thing!

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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #771 on: March 11, 2019, 12:49:07 AM »
That looks like SD before he painted it!!

I would not go with a trailer. You want to travel, not just camp. There will be 3 of you right? 1 in the back, 2 up top keep it simple and light. Easier to drive, better mileage and no backing issues.

If it becomes a camping vehicle, go with a trailer. Haul it out, drop it and you still have rig to run and a base camp.

Funny thing is I saw a 1011 on CL out here setup like that. Soft top with those camping bunk-beds and still plenty of room for a chair and fans.
Sounds like Jr is saying the boss can’t handle a little trailer backing


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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #772 on: March 11, 2019, 08:40:26 AM »
That looks like SD before he painted it!!

I would not go with a trailer. You want to travel, not just camp. There will be 3 of you right? 1 in the back, 2 up top keep it simple and light. Easier to drive, better mileage and no backing issues.

If it becomes a camping vehicle, go with a trailer. Haul it out, drop it and you still have rig to run and a base camp.

Funny thing is I saw a 1011 on CL out here setup like that. Soft top with those camping bunk-beds and still plenty of room for a chair and fans.
Sounds like Jr is saying the boss can’t handle a little trailer backing


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Well if that’s the case he could upgrade to a Ford....  :popcorn:
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« Reply #773 on: March 11, 2019, 08:55:30 AM »
Upgrade? Caugh caugh


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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #774 on: March 11, 2019, 09:56:45 AM »
Wow, my thread just blew up (Again!)

Lots to think about...

Backing up a trailer...?? 50/50 at best

Boys used to go silent when i was backing up my long trailer at night, after a long hard day at the farm.

Once I asked, Why?

THey said they were counting the cuss words!

Apparently they'd wager between each other how many curse words would come out of Dad's mouth before I got the trailer nestled in its parking birth.
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #775 on: March 11, 2019, 10:14:17 AM »
Quick search, just found this:

Local guy builds them. M416 wanna-be

For roof top tents and stuff...?

Possible solution??
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #776 on: March 11, 2019, 10:33:05 AM »
I like it. I’ll bet you like driving it with a lower center of gravity.

Oh, wait. Piluts don’t pay attention to gravity....center or otherwise


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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #777 on: March 11, 2019, 10:51:22 AM »
I like it. I’ll bet you like driving it with a lower center of gravity.

Oh, wait. Piluts don’t pay attention to gravity....center or otherwise


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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #778 on: March 11, 2019, 11:16:50 AM »
Looks like it’s lighter than the military style trailers.   I’d see about lug pattern match to the burb,  see if it comes in other shades of blue



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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #779 on: March 11, 2019, 11:33:36 AM »
Personally I would like deeper sides, larger tires and an independent axle setup versus the ground dragging regular tube axle. Then add a lockable lid, my 2 cents or 4 needed upgrades.....

Edit: and add some tube angled out to those fenders from front and rear so it doesn’t get those fenders hooked on every obstacle you drag it by. Never know where this little tug might go!
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2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #780 on: March 11, 2019, 11:39:58 AM »
I don’t know what one of those cost but it’s be hard for me to go that route if I already had a mil trailer. Is your trailer the same lug pattern as Ravin?


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2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #781 on: March 11, 2019, 11:47:25 AM »
Similar thought to longball, not sure of the cost on that trailer but your existing trailer could be made to work for cheaper. And you may be able to find an actual 416 or CDN101 for cheaper. The 416s are getting a bit more difficult because of so many folks love them, and understandably so, they’re the perfect size for a trailer top tent, great storage, and pull great.

They also have the A1 version both the 416 and the CDN101, its the version with the inertia brake built in. That being said, our fully loaded 416 with globetrotter on top pulled and stopped just fine behind our 02 4runner.

Here’s an example, not real close but you get the idea...

https://owensboro.craigslist.org/search/sss?query=M416+trailer&sort=date&searchNearby=1&nearbyArea=558&nearbyArea=465&nearbyArea=377&nearbyArea=227&nearbyArea=32&nearbyArea=348&nearbyArea=342&nearbyArea=229&nearbyArea=360&nearbyArea=670&nearbyArea=58&nearbyArea=220&nearbyArea=45&nearbyArea=672&nearbyArea=361&nearbyArea=133&nearbyArea=671&nearbyArea=202

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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #782 on: March 11, 2019, 12:37:00 PM »
I don't Don couldn't handle the trailer, but do you really need it? The burb will handle it fine too.

Just thinking with 3 of you, nice time of year with the tent and the miles you want to drive the Sub should be fine.

Plus you are adding another fluid change (that's what we call rebuilds here) on top of finishing the sub.

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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #783 on: March 11, 2019, 01:24:06 PM »
I vote you buy a stand alone tent - less hassle, options are endless, stores easy, like in a roof top basket, along with cots and what not.  Cheaper, doesn't resemble tac-topper and doesn't limit where you can take the Burb!
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #784 on: March 11, 2019, 01:56:29 PM »
Still agree with Mike ...KISS.

but if you want something awesome, this is pretty cool:

https://www.expeditionportal.com/forum/threads/m101a3-expedition-trailer-for-jeep.158959/

..or just throw a camper in the Mil trailer, then it could be removed and put back into farm duty.

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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #785 on: March 11, 2019, 08:51:01 PM »
Well, I found this thing locally and was thinking I just may be able to make it work. This guy manufacturers these trailers for $4K, but this one, a custom is left over. It was built for a guy who was a no-show. He has it listed for $2800.

I'm not for sure on it to be certain. It looks to have trailer type shortie springs which are kind of a no-go for a true off road tugger. I asked him in a message tonight if he might consider selling it without the axle, wheels and tires. I could pdq slap in an 8-lug axle and use the same tires/wheels. But not my first choice.

I can't use my farm trailer, it has a lot of stuff in it along with 600 lbs of fuel and the water tank, and the...

But I would consider picking up another 1011. They are great trailers and pretty big!

I may not go down this new alley at all. The plan I had for a roof top tent was a doable plan, albeit with some problems and limitations.
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #786 on: March 11, 2019, 08:57:19 PM »
I would not mess with a trailer unless you plan on staying in an area long term.  it will also limit your "on the fly" decision if you have to backtrack to get the trailer.

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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #787 on: March 11, 2019, 08:58:48 PM »
Today I got the transmission all buttoned up

The pan is super clean and the coating looks...acceptable for something meant only to be corrosion resistant
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #788 on: March 11, 2019, 09:00:35 PM »
I liked the stock gasket a lot more than the usual floppy rubber offering that came with the new filter, so I skim coated it with some gray silicone and reused it
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #789 on: March 11, 2019, 09:01:39 PM »
Transmission got a brandially new filter
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« Reply #790 on: March 11, 2019, 09:02:25 PM »
Then the pan was thrown back on and snugged up
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #791 on: March 11, 2019, 09:03:50 PM »
I then drained the transfer case and removed the driveshaft to axle bolts, and while I was at it, pulled the new/old exhaust system back off
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #792 on: March 11, 2019, 09:07:15 PM »
The Merchant transfer case pump fix-it kit showed up, so I decided to just dive right in. The camera died...No longer recognizes its own lens, so there are no more pics.

Continuing, I cleaned and cleaned beneath the truck to get that automatic trans fluid up, and finished with scrubbing the floor.

While that was all wet, I switched to fitting the B&M trans cooler in place of the factory micro cooler. I may just retask that as a power steering cooler!
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #793 on: March 12, 2019, 09:38:00 PM »
So here is the B&M plate style cooler that will be replacing the stocker and that POC fastened to the AC condenser
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« Reply #794 on: March 12, 2019, 09:39:51 PM »
You can see, the B&M unit just dwarfs the tiny stocker in all ways
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #795 on: March 12, 2019, 09:41:40 PM »
This thing is gone like Donkey-Kong
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #796 on: March 12, 2019, 09:43:29 PM »
I started by pulling everything off in front of the cooling stack
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #797 on: March 12, 2019, 09:44:53 PM »
I gave the front end a good cleaning. Soap and water and a chemical cleaner as well, then replaced the parking light lenses and all of the remaining bulbs
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #798 on: March 12, 2019, 09:46:44 PM »
I painted the metal and covered it with an epoxy bed liner ahead of the new bumpers which are coming right up

Then I reversed the stiffener to create more room for this much larger cooling unit
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #799 on: March 12, 2019, 09:48:14 PM »
After cleaning and painting the hood release, I created some mounting tabs from a couple layers of galvanized steel captured by some riv-nuts
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