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Re: 2008 Jeep Jk 4 Door
« Reply #900 on: June 22, 2019, 12:18:49 AM »
Can you please post a photo of jeeep as is, once tires are mounted


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Re: 2008 Jeep Jk 4 Door
« Reply #901 on: June 22, 2019, 08:27:18 AM »
My wife actually has rubicon jeep dreams after our trip,  looking at the idea and I know zero about them.    Moab capability is required.


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Majority of Moab can be done on 33's and a rear locker only. The newer 3.6L motors are a must have 2012 and newer I believe (rubicon model is not) as you can do 33's on any stock jk axle with a little common sense. Add a low range box from whomever as long as the trans is auto (it goes between the trans and transfer case) and have Tate send you a rear locker. Moab capable for a third the price......
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Re: 2008 Jeep Jk 4 Door
« Reply #902 on: June 22, 2019, 09:41:34 AM »
I think i would like to see 37’s and read about doing the super duty conversion which seems reasonable also


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Re: 2008 Jeep Jk 4 Door
« Reply #903 on: June 22, 2019, 09:57:49 AM »
I think i would like to see 37’s and read about doing the super duty conversion which seems reasonable also


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Superduty is pretty much front axle only, rear will contact gas tank so then it’s custom tank to do it right. 14 bolt rear would work and convert front unit bearings to 8 on 6.5 to match 14 bolt. 14 bolt will need hubs machined to accept wheel speed sensor.
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Re: 2008 Jeep Jk 4 Door
« Reply #904 on: June 22, 2019, 10:48:38 AM »
The rental jeep we had sat a tie bit low, it had 35’s they rubbed pretty heavily on a full tire stuff into the rear fenders, I think he said it was a four inch lift

Momma wants a four door or at least the longer wheel base of the four door.

I told her it needed a second set of tires for off-road use, a basic built cage, a six inch lift and bumpers.   

We didn’t use the front locker in Moab it did fine with out it.   Next trip will be to sand hallow just outside of Saint George


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Re: 2008 Jeep Jk 4 Door
« Reply #905 on: June 22, 2019, 10:54:00 AM »
Mine has 3.5” and trying different fenders. Bump stops will need adjusted and stockers are shot anyhow so there you go. I don’t like tall jeeps, big tires and low stance.
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Re: 2008 Jeep Jk 4 Door
« Reply #906 on: June 22, 2019, 11:04:58 AM »
Mine has 3.5” and trying different fenders. Bump stops will need adjusted and stockers are shot anyhow so there you go. I don’t like tall jeeps, big tires and low stance.
Can you elaborate on why?


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Re: 2008 Jeep Jk 4 Door
« Reply #907 on: June 22, 2019, 12:05:08 PM »
Mine has 3.5” and trying different fenders. Bump stops will need adjusted and stockers are shot anyhow so there you go. I don’t like tall jeeps, big tires and low stance.
Can you elaborate on why?


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Because I’m not 20 years old anymore and putting a rig on its lid isn’t as much fun as it used to be. Then physics, bigger tires make for smaller rocks. Because if you ain’t running at least 37’s you’re just not cool either.......  :wink:

Or were you asking about extended bump stops?  :tongue:
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Re: 2008 Jeep Jk 4 Door
« Reply #908 on: June 22, 2019, 01:37:06 PM »
The reasons for all,   I doubt she will go money on a Jeep this week, at lease I hope not dad wants a new truck!!

We will talk more and see what works and doesn’t.  Who knows maybe I buy a burb that will be for sale soon and do a sas on it and be all set.


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Re: 2008 Jeep Jk 4 Door
« Reply #909 on: June 22, 2019, 02:14:48 PM »
Extended bump stops will keep tire too much up travel and stuffing it cutting up the tire on the inner fender well etc.
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Re: 2008 Jeep Jk 4 Door
« Reply #910 on: June 22, 2019, 08:18:17 PM »
Big tires and little lift.  My favorite mantra. 
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Re: 2008 Jeep Jk 4 Door
« Reply #911 on: July 02, 2019, 09:09:57 PM »
In order to fit large rear tires I’m going with aftermarket fenders and as such the bumper needed trimmed and freshened up before her big date.....
















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Re: 2008 Jeep Jk 4 Door
« Reply #912 on: July 02, 2019, 09:16:53 PM »
So that’s where it ended up today. Yes, I used dimple dies on 3/16” plate. Anti seize on the draw bolt and a big impact did the trick. Large holes take a couple stabs at it, tighten then loosen and retighten worked best.

I tried texting Big D first thing this morning to find out if the HF bedliner was UV resistant? I believe we figured out the meaning of life during those texts but it is still not confirmed on the UV rating of the cheapo bedliner spray available from HF.....  :rolleyes:

Oh and Ken still loves H!  :tongue:
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Re: 2008 Jeep Jk 4 Door
« Reply #913 on: July 02, 2019, 09:33:10 PM »
Ken still loves H because it will take 400 years to cover all that ground


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Re: 2008 Jeep Jk 4 Door
« Reply #914 on: July 02, 2019, 10:33:24 PM »
Holes for weight loss? I like the die idea though.
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Re: 2008 Jeep Jk 4 Door
« Reply #915 on: July 02, 2019, 11:02:17 PM »
Holes for weight loss? I like the die idea though.

Weight loss and I’ve stood on that bumper with muddy boots or in rain it’s pretty slick. So reverse dimple die’d holes will work for both accounts.
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« Reply #916 on: July 03, 2019, 10:23:24 AM »
Ken still loves H because it will take 400 years to cover all that ground


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Re: 2008 Jeep Jk 4 Door
« Reply #917 on: January 11, 2020, 04:02:37 PM »
OK, my apologies as it's been awhile. So long in fact I had to thumb back through 4 pages of DOT activity to find out where I left off. SO my hats off to all you DOT'ers great job! There will be none of that incessant whining like the old crusty guy who owns this place about junking up threads.....  :popcorn:

For those of you who follow instagram most of this is rehash. Progress has been slow but shop is finally about 95% setup the way I would like and we've been busy with other axle builds and projects in general. So the lights will stay on another year I suppose at least.

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Re: 2008 Jeep Jk 4 Door
« Reply #918 on: January 11, 2020, 04:03:58 PM »
Next was to get the new 99-04 front superduty 60 completed to install and this included modding the brakes to the 8 on 6.5 pattern in the mill





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Re: 2008 Jeep Jk 4 Door
« Reply #919 on: January 11, 2020, 04:09:50 PM »


During this one of the things we were doing in the shop was upgrading the twenty year old diff cover designs to accept lube locker gaskets properly









stud mounting kit we offer with the covers



and one thing we have always prided ourselves on is building our covers in machined fixtures to keep the gasket surface flat as you can see here. Many of our competitor's who copied our design do not do this and they need to machine them after welding. The problem is most of them start with a 3/8" thick gasket flange and then surface it removing material. We start with 1/2" and keep it there so you receive a cover with full 1/2" gasket flange. I believe the foundation is everything, picture is worth a thousand words.





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Re: 2008 Jeep Jk 4 Door
« Reply #920 on: January 11, 2020, 04:11:33 PM »
Picture of the new PSC steering gear next to old stock unit. PSC is always our go to for steering gears and pumps.

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Re: 2008 Jeep Jk 4 Door
« Reply #921 on: January 11, 2020, 04:32:40 PM »
Axle was hung before Christmas with care....





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Re: 2008 Jeep Jk 4 Door
« Reply #922 on: January 11, 2020, 04:36:11 PM »
Limit straps for front were installed



stock front frame side track bar bracket removed



New one temporarily tacked in place (most likely incorrectly as it needs to go forward more yet)



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Re: 2008 Jeep Jk 4 Door
« Reply #923 on: January 11, 2020, 04:40:34 PM »
Rocksliders being built













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« Reply #924 on: January 11, 2020, 04:42:43 PM »
So the long tubes of the rocksliders are tapped for bolts to hang from pinch weld but I wanted something to attached at frame for added support. So we found these studded rubber mounts and tapped them into frame then ran outriggers to the inside of the long tubes on the rocksliders



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« Reply #925 on: January 11, 2020, 04:46:40 PM »
We also made our own quick disconnect sway bar end links



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Re: 2008 Jeep Jk 4 Door
« Reply #926 on: January 11, 2020, 05:25:09 PM »
Clean work. Looks great!

Thinkin' you should bring 2 of those crappy covers down when you visit...14 bolt and d60. It'll save you the pain of trying to sell them.
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« Reply #927 on: January 11, 2020, 05:31:01 PM »
Clean work. Looks great!

Thinkin' you should bring 2 of those crappy covers down when you visit...14 bolt and d60. It'll save you the pain of trying to sell them.

Thanks Ken! We got you covered......  :tongue:
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Re: 2008 Jeep Jk 4 Door
« Reply #928 on: January 11, 2020, 05:48:07 PM »
OK, so rear drive shaft is a CV head 1350 setup from Jesse at High Angle Driveline out of Paradise, CA. Just to note he does quality work and I have been using his family owned shop for twenty years. That shop was also consumed in the fires last year and he is in the process of rebuilding his facility. Through all of this he has kept up with his product demand.

This is the front flange from HAD, I was considering modifying a front superduty 1350 shaft but I think the best bet is to just call Jesse which I will be doing shortly once I get an accurate measurement. Still need to set castor yet.

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« Reply #929 on: January 11, 2020, 05:51:29 PM »
While I was under here I decided to upgrade the stock transmission cross member and throw in a new rubber molded mount.

stock unit braced to come out



side by side comparison of two cross members



new molded mount and installed







I also took the time to wire brush the guards on transfer case and gas tank then used some rubberized undercoating on both
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« Reply #930 on: January 11, 2020, 06:58:10 PM »
So here is the stance as it is currently, still need to finish a few things but list is getting shorter







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« Reply #931 on: January 11, 2020, 07:21:31 PM »
Sweet!

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Re: 2008 Jeep Jk 4 Door
« Reply #932 on: January 11, 2020, 07:22:36 PM »
That is some nice work..

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« Reply #933 on: January 11, 2020, 07:29:47 PM »
Thank you
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« Reply #934 on: January 11, 2020, 09:17:21 PM »
Very sharp. Good looking stance


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« Reply #935 on: January 12, 2020, 04:38:39 PM »
Nice little beast there.
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« Reply #936 on: January 12, 2020, 06:27:30 PM »
OK, my apologies as it's been awhile. So long in fact I had to thumb back through 4 pages of DOT activity to find out where I left off. SO my hats off to all you DOT'ers great job! There will be none of that incessant whining like the old crusty guy who owns this place about junking up threads.....  :popcorn:

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« Reply #937 on: January 12, 2020, 06:28:25 PM »
We also made our own quick disconnect sway bar end links




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« Reply #938 on: January 12, 2020, 09:06:06 PM »
OK, my apologies as it's been awhile. So long in fact I had to thumb back through 4 pages of DOT activity to find out where I left off. SO my hats off to all you DOT'ers great job! There will be none of that incessant whining like the old crusty guy who owns this place about junking up threads.....  :popcorn:

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Re: 2008 Jeep Jk 4 Door
« Reply #939 on: January 12, 2020, 10:30:26 PM »
I’ll give ya $12k for it


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« Reply #940 on: January 12, 2020, 10:39:39 PM »
I’ll give ya $12k for it


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Lol, bet you would.  :knucklehead:
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« Reply #941 on: January 13, 2020, 12:27:25 AM »
With or without the wing nuts, $12,001?
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« Reply #942 on: January 13, 2020, 09:32:56 AM »
Lookin' really clean there buddy, nice work
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« Reply #943 on: January 13, 2020, 10:39:13 AM »
Thanks Tate, for the rest of you DOT’ers this isn’t a $1 auction site......
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« Reply #944 on: January 13, 2020, 11:18:36 AM »
OK, my apologies as it's been awhile. So long in fact I had to thumb back through 4 pages of DOT activity to find out where I left off. SO my hats off to all you DOT'ers great job! There will be none of that incessant whining like the old crusty guy who owns this place about junking up threads.....  :popcorn:

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« Reply #945 on: January 13, 2020, 01:28:36 PM »
Lookin' really clean there buddy, nice work

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« Reply #946 on: January 13, 2020, 09:35:15 PM »
Thanks guys
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« Reply #947 on: January 17, 2020, 03:50:38 AM »
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« Reply #948 on: May 08, 2020, 07:27:32 PM »
So, not sure where I left off or what I haven’t posted yet. However, Baylee is finishing this off and will be driving it daily here within the week. Today we sprayed a few things w/ raptor liner. Very short punch list and it will be road worthy. Little sis is turning 16 in sept and will be taking the reigns of the tj.

Oh, and yes Baylee is mean dogging me while I take pictures. Just like her momma!!










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« Reply #949 on: May 08, 2020, 10:07:41 PM »
Proud new owner

Congrats Baylee!

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