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Title: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Post by: JR on July 10, 2015, 08:03:50 PM
Well, you do a makeover of course!!

I bought this truck new in 2006 after the insurance paid off after a garage fire. I actually bought a 1500hd first with the 6ltr gas but it never had the power or mileage I desired. So I traded it in for 5k less than I bought it for, which I thought was a good. Finding the Dmax I wanted was no trouble, but getting the $$ I wanted for it was.

The 1500hd was the same color and trim but had the 9.5 rear. Best I ever got in mileage was 16 coming back from LA and driving like a baby.

You can see the result of the fire in the background. (I have a build thread here; http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=704660&highlight=garage

Then I added tires, wheels, exhaust and a tuner. You can see my 96 burb for sale back there to.
Title: Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Post by: JR on July 10, 2015, 08:24:40 PM
I had put a shell on it, but can't find the picture. No biggy as it is on the DMax now! Here was the first stop, the tire store!!

And here is how it looked right after,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Title: Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Post by: Dawg25385 on July 10, 2015, 08:33:31 PM
Oil/fluid change???


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Title: Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Post by: JR on July 10, 2015, 08:34:16 PM
On both you may notice the truck is not stock height. I had added the Cognito UCA to the 1500 with Bilstien 5100's and they swapped right over to the DMax alone with 3 inch rear blocks.

Sure may you have cranked up the UCAs for a little more clearance which is OK for about 2 inches. After that you loose down travel and the "ride" of the vehicle. By adding after market UCAs arms you gain more travel both ways and it improves the geometry in the process.
Title: Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Post by: JR on July 10, 2015, 08:35:38 PM
Oil/fluid change???

Yep, but this is about 9 years in the making now. Just shy of BD fluid change.
Title: Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Post by: Dawg25385 on July 10, 2015, 08:54:45 PM
Well I'm in, and will try to derail wherever possible ;)


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Title: Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Post by: Flyin6 on July 10, 2015, 10:18:46 PM
I'm in too
Title: Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Post by: TexasRedNeck on July 10, 2015, 10:53:20 PM
Dot army en masse.


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Title: Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Post by: Sammconn on July 10, 2015, 11:14:07 PM
Hooah! We got us another place to hang out.
Title: Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Post by: Nate on July 10, 2015, 11:24:09 PM
that's all we get for a night?! 

for sale: 2006 gmc sierra 2500HD 4x4
pewter, leveled, aftermarket tires and rims, old man camper shell, never driven over 55MPH because I live in CA and im a little scared of all the power, water/meth tank in the bed.  ill take 10K for it, first one to make an offer can get it for 9K.............any takers?
Title: Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Post by: JR on July 11, 2015, 01:40:11 AM
that's all we get for a night?! 

Had to wait for you to go to bed, here is a little more.

Added 4 inch exhaust and lost the muffler. Don't need no stinking muffler with a turbo.

Added TTT mirrors as I didn't the GM towing mirrors, nor the Cipas.

Even some old man running boards so the little ones could climb in.

Title: Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Post by: JR on July 11, 2015, 01:48:23 AM
Played with tuners starting with the Diablo that really worked good, but you always want more.

Next step was EFI live and I played with swapping and modding tunes a little. Still a little above my head but I turned off some of the "reporting" and trouble CEL lights. For instance the EGR was "fixed" and the PCV was rerouted.

I also installed a transgo jr kit and adjusted for the larger tires and top end speed. I think it is 125mph, but have never got that far, but well over 100 for sure. 
Title: Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Post by: JR on July 11, 2015, 03:49:38 AM
I was heavy into RC aircraft at this time and got a trailer I was going to build into a toy hauler/repair station. The sub had served well for this hobby but was just a 1/2 ton. It did however get me to San Diego a few times as well as LV, Grand Canyon and a couple trips up to Canada.

I added a nice shell that had been on the 1500hd and a Bedslider. Bedsliders are cool and just a lighter version of what you see in many emergency vehicles. You loose a tad of strorage but gain so much much versatilty!!!

Title: Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Post by: JR on July 13, 2015, 01:27:17 PM
Ran the Nitto's for some time then ran the Yokahamo Geolanders. I really liked those tires but they had a funny harmonics at around 65-70. Best tire I ever drove in snow. Drove Got threw the roadblocks on I 80 during snow storm and drove the 75 miles with hardly a hitch. I even tried to break em loose in the snow and they were solid!

Went to Toyo Open Countrys with new rims and got $1000 for the Yokos!
Title: Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Post by: moto123 on July 13, 2015, 01:45:00 PM
I am confused... I see three different wheel sets and three different side mirrors sets.  I know you said you did this over 9 years, but where are we in the build progress so far?  Did you get it new and it now has 115K and you are thinking of doing another change?  Or is this a summary of changes from the past?  Either way it looks awesome!
Title: Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Post by: JR on July 13, 2015, 02:01:40 PM
1st truck is the 1500HD I had for 6 months and traded for the 2500HD. 1500 had tow mirrors I never liked so I got the HD with stock mirrors and upgraded to the TTT mirrors.
Title: Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Post by: JR on July 17, 2015, 12:43:40 AM
In keeping with my model plane hobby. I wanted a trailer to build for shows and repairs (I was/am really big into this). So I ordered up a custom trailer and went to Las Vegas to pick it up (any excuse will do, right!!)

It was 20ftx8.5ft with HD axels and led lighting. I took it to a few shows and was about to make it a real TH. But family took over little and I sold it for what I paid. I had added a nice alum box up front with 2 deep cycle batteries, roof AC, awning, a 3000 watt generator, Fridge and 2000watt inverter.

For repairs I had 2 Craftsman benches, mini lathe and mill with tools and supply's for anything!!
Title: Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Post by: JR on July 17, 2015, 01:05:36 AM
A little out of place, but this is how much I used to be into Models Plans. I was a rep for a Model helicopter company for a while and beta tested for many more.

My trips took me to San Diego and Canada, with many in between. Many fly or drive all over the country(s).

Right after 911 I went up to Chilliwack, BC in Canada for a fun fly. This is how I set up and this is what I saw on the way home, Memorial weekend.
Title: Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Post by: Flyin6 on July 17, 2015, 12:52:51 PM
Sweet!
Title: Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Post by: JR on July 18, 2015, 12:58:02 AM
Thx BD, it was fun while it lasted. The trailer that is, still play with the toys.

When I sold that I rolled it right over to this;
Title: Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Post by: Flyin6 on July 18, 2015, 08:52:01 AM
Yea...

I want something more in that size range say 21-25 feet, no bigger

Been lookin' at that big Lance. I think a trailer that size needs a foldout, then call it good!

Something an air conditioner could actually cool and something that discourages grand kids and their parents from jumpin' in!  :)
Title: Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Post by: cudakidd53 on July 18, 2015, 10:16:31 AM
LOL- two foot-itus hits a saturation point and then reverses flow!  That's why parents sell their home and "down size" so the birds can't re occupy the nest!

We have a 28' with a slide- very comfortable for the three of us and room for a guest of our daughters or two; beyond that, you gotta REALLY like someone to cram any more in it!  Water discipline usually keeps that at bay, as most don't realize they're not at home where a running faucet is a non-issue!
Title: Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Post by: JR on July 18, 2015, 04:57:04 PM
Thats a 23fst above, no slides. While we 5 can sleep in there easy, there is room for more, but it can get crowded.

We don't live in it, we sleep in it and the kids enjoy a movie now and then. Separate bedroom up front is nice. This is not a lightweight either, DMax does just fine.

I think a 23-35ft with a slide, lightweight would be just right. For pulling alot a 5th is the way to go.

Title: Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Post by: JR on July 31, 2015, 02:42:56 PM
Spent thursday at Ice House lake right near the entrance to the rubicon. Kids had a blast in their kayaks, caught a few little fish and beat the 108 heat down in the valley.

Darn cat would even go outside!!

Heard a rattle on the front of the dmax going up, so when the kids played I jacked up the left side. Found another bad upper ball joint (heard it last week at Lassen). This is the second one in 2 years. Called Napa and got a couple Spicers for it vs the Moogs that just don't seem to last.

Oh wait, the mail is here, guess what showed up!!!!

Oh, and this is what my ankles look like at the end of a day,,,,,,,,,
Title: Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Post by: KensAuto on July 31, 2015, 05:25:48 PM
They don't look so good. Better kick back and watch some telly today.

...oh, nice barrel!
Title: Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Post by: cudakidd53 on July 31, 2015, 06:42:37 PM
OUCH those don't look very good there JR, have you tried compression sox?
Title: Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Post by: Nate on July 31, 2015, 07:08:10 PM
what meds are you taking that you are retaining water like that?
Title: Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Post by: JR on July 31, 2015, 07:19:04 PM
They don't look so good. Better kick back and watch some telly today.

...oh, nice barrel!

Thats how they look everyday, don't feel that good either.

Yes it is!!!
Title: Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Post by: JR on July 31, 2015, 07:33:19 PM
what meds are you taking that you are retaining water like that?

PMS, oh no!!!!

That is how they get after walking a little, sitting a lot. A full day on them and I am in agony and motrin or aleeve does nothing!
Title: Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Post by: JR on July 31, 2015, 07:42:50 PM
Anywho, have to address the upper ball joints. Just came back from Napa with some spicer/napa units that are supposed to be better. Have a new idler and cognito peices too.
Title: Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Post by: Flyin6 on July 31, 2015, 10:23:19 PM
JR,

I think you probably know thin, but are you getting enough aerobic exercise? A cardiologist friend of mine makes me do 45 min a day. I cheat, but get 4 days a week done.

The reason I mention it is when the pump starts to lose efficiency, it first manifests in the ankles, as in swelling. Weaker heart can't move fluids as well and they begin to collect in the lower extremities.

By no means get alarmed or anything,  just want to cover the bases, that's all.
Title: Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Post by: Sammconn on July 31, 2015, 11:16:55 PM
That sucks with the ankles.

Question for you, back on the makeover topic.
Have you done the pump run fix yet, or are you like me, on borrowed time?
I ask because I'm approaching 200k without doing it yet. I believe it is due to my miles coming in very large chunks as opposed to city stop and go.
I have the kit sitting on my bench, for about 50k now. Lol. I really need to get at it I suppose.
Title: Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Post by: Nate on August 01, 2015, 12:38:33 AM
Would you rather spend a few hours doing the fix or would you rather spend lots of $k on a new case half and then doing the upgrade.......?

Truthfully guys, i did it like 3.5 hrs.....just make sure you have a good set of snap ring pliers and a 15mm stubby wrench for the very top bolt on the case where it mates to the tranny.
Title: Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Post by: JR on August 01, 2015, 04:11:09 AM
I am on borrowed time on the case pump. I did a quick fix and it is holding. It will get done with the rest of this thread during the lift and several little other things.

On my pump Don. There is some anemia I'm sure, but actual cardio is out. It swells around and above the ankles, not all the way up. 
Just moving around the pool makes em hurt, but that is playing with the kids. You can see blood pooling above the heals, there is some real damage in there.

My bike is the best bet right now. I have dropped 25+ so far, but have a good 30 to go, but working on it. Even on the camping trips, I can keep up with the kids cept for the ankle/foot pain. Not to say I am in great shape, but I don't fall on my face either. They said I need it scoped now and the tech was on vaca until 8-1, so its time.
Title: Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Post by: Flyin6 on August 01, 2015, 10:07:55 AM
Dag-gone JR, I don't like hearing that

Are you seeing anyone about that?

You ever heard of Nathan Morris?

Goggle him...perhaps make it to one of his healing services. I worked the one at my church. I was right beside him for hundreds of these healing prayers...unbelievable!
Title: Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Post by: JR on August 01, 2015, 01:15:02 PM
Xrays showed chips and rips hat pulled bone off the tibia. Had an MRI and now they want a scope before surgery.

As I said, good days and bad days, need to get this done.
Title: Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Post by: JR on August 02, 2015, 05:34:01 AM
Been under the max all afternoon and into the wee hours now. Called it quits after midnight. Need to use tools that make noise but not bug the neighbors, too much,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

New upper ball joints, cognito steering braces, sway bar spacers, new idler and up the injection to the 530ml nozzle. Will finish and post tomorrow.
Title: Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Post by: JR on August 03, 2015, 01:34:57 AM
So here is the story on the Dmax.

Heard a little clicking under the front last week at camp with the boys. For some reason I just didn't think of looking into it until I heard again up Ice House (near the Rubicon) I check it quick up there and find the upper left ball joint is sloppy, again! I had replaced it 2 years ago after a Shasta trip >:(

SO pull it down and say what the heck and do them both, but used spicer instead of moog this time. Also decided to do the idler and add the Cognito steering brace I have had a for a couple years ::)
Title: Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Post by: JR on August 03, 2015, 01:47:27 AM
I also find this rip in the HD Cognito tie rod boot as it rubbed on the sway bar. Now I have the Cognito sway bar kit which is supposed to address this, but it is still a little to close. The easy fix here a stack of washers under the mount, and we are good!
Title: Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Post by: JR on August 03, 2015, 01:56:03 AM
Then I get to the ball joints. These are spicer units sold by Napa. I have never used the included bolts as a 5/16 fits in there just fine vs the 1/4 crap. Torque em to 30ft lbs and you are ready to go. The lower bolt gets 90ft lbs.
Title: Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Post by: JR on August 03, 2015, 02:00:07 AM
Then I replaced the stock Idler with a new Moog unit with a cool little grease fitting. It is cast iron, vs the stock alum unit.

The fitting is nice if you have ever tried to grease the circled zerk.
Title: Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Post by: JR on August 03, 2015, 02:02:55 AM
The idler is now greased form here;
Title: Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Post by: Sammconn on August 03, 2015, 08:25:36 AM
That remote grease zerk is the answer!
I really hate getting my big paws and the grease line up in there.

Looks good there JR.
Title: Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Post by: TexasRedNeck on August 03, 2015, 09:55:51 AM
Did that zero come with the part or is it available separately?


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Title: Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Post by: rasimmo on August 03, 2015, 10:28:47 AM
Did that zero come with the part or is it available separately?


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I had the same question. With the power of Google I found the part number. K6714

PDF of the complete idler that lists the part number.
http://www.moogproblemsolver.com/_pdf_En/MOOG_PS_Bulletin_27027_K6714_En.pdf
Edit: This does not list newer than 07, but I think the grease fitting should be the same.

Google search for that part number.
https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=moog+k6714
Title: Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Post by: JR on August 03, 2015, 12:26:52 PM
Yes it is a sweet upgrade, but think you could make it up.

I think the 2 zerks on the top of the center link need 90 zerks too. Trying to get the gun on them is a bare. You have to crank the wheel to either side to get your mugs up there.

Title: Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Post by: JR on August 03, 2015, 12:31:48 PM
So next with all the parts on I lowered it down and drove it around the block. It felt better but I hear lots of tire noise. Looking down both sides it looked like I had toe out, a lot!!

So jacked her up and put a line around each tire with a grease pen then set it back down (not good to check jacked up)

I found I had 3 inches of toe out! Nothing like dragging miles of use off the tires. I guess I really did need a few parts down there.
Title: Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Post by: JR on August 03, 2015, 12:37:18 PM
Now I am no alignment guru but I had to clean this up to get it down to the shop.

So after about 10 minutes and 3 adjustment I got I felt was about 1/8 toe in, but it still has some serious camber to address.

It will be cool to see the spec sheet on how far off I am, was. I was getting some good pocketing on the old Toyos when I took them off.
Title: Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Post by: Flyin6 on August 03, 2015, 01:51:38 PM
Nice little trick with that zerk extension, JR
Title: Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Post by: cudakidd53 on August 03, 2015, 05:26:29 PM
Home made tool for checking toe:  piece of scrap electical conduit and weld 12" - 18" long 1" wide thin sheet metal thick enough to hold itself straight but thin enough to bend by hand.  You keep the pipe flat on the floor and use the flat stock to check the toe front and back at spindle height on tire.  You cut the pipe to a length that suits your needs, or you can rig up an adjustable length one.
Title: Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Post by: JR on August 03, 2015, 06:31:47 PM
I used to set truck axles with something similar. We used a plate on the ground with a sharpened tube on it to scribe the tire, then measure from there. Worked really well. I may have been closer this time if I was not in the street and used pieces of metal like we used to under the tires.

Just got back from the alignment shop and I was still 1 9/16th out. Talk about scrub! Camber is out 3/10 of a degree, but in spec at least.

Sums it up and why I will put the lift on. Tired of ball joints going out or even thinking of it.
Title: Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Post by: JR on August 15, 2015, 02:27:16 PM
Did a little camping these last weeks with the kids. Truck is running fine but found out I have no 4wd low. 4wd high worked fine.

The lift is on the short list now. Doing just some mild wheeling showed the stock "leveled" is a little harsh, has a stiff feel to the front end.

Brakes are squealing bad too, pads are fine. I may get the rotors turned to clean them up.

Camped near Twin Lake at about 8000ft. Great little site, deer running through camp, close to the water lots of shade.
Title: Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Post by: JR on August 15, 2015, 03:15:13 PM
Oh, it was in the 80s. I have no idea why he was wearing the hood.
Title: Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Post by: Nate on August 15, 2015, 04:31:51 PM
looks like a great spot.  just don't show Darren another wildlife pic, he may start saying its a cat and want to domistacate it.............ROFLMFAO!
Title: Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Post by: JR on August 16, 2015, 08:24:38 PM
The great thing about up here is you are far enough to play with these alot. Even for Ca.

Ruger 22/45 with my youngest.
Title: Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Post by: KensAuto on August 16, 2015, 08:29:48 PM
Nice place. I couldn't even get near a mountain lake in Az this time of year.
Title: Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Post by: Flyin6 on August 16, 2015, 10:32:05 PM
JR, my boys were shooting the same gun on the farm this weekend!
Title: Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Post by: JR on August 17, 2015, 03:43:02 AM
I like the "quiet" version better. But very hard to get that in this state.

They do shoot nice though don't they? My MP 15/22 is very finicky on ammo. The Ruger likes anything!
Title: Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Post by: JR on August 17, 2015, 03:49:25 AM
Nice place. I couldn't even get near a mountain lake in Az this time of year.

There another lake in a little farther west called meadow lake. Bigger but camping is not as good. Blue lakes (upper and lower) get crowded.

One suv, one motorcycle and one helicopter came by while we were there. Yup the heli even landed, kids were jazzed and had to walk out to an island on the dam to go see it.
Title: Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Post by: Flyin6 on August 17, 2015, 11:07:10 AM
AS-350

French helo

Blades turn backwards

French...
Title: Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Post by: JR on August 17, 2015, 02:02:34 PM
Well, its french. Of course they turn backwards!!

3 people in that thing to check some little water level bucket, 8k ft, it was not happy. Had to turn away and fly over the lake to get altitude.
Title: Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Post by: Flyin6 on August 18, 2015, 08:23:36 AM
Well, its french. Of course they turn backwards!!

3 people in that thing to check some little water level bucket, 8k ft, it was not happy. Had to turn away and fly over the lake to get altitude.
That helo in the B3 configuration is decent, but most of them are French jet rangers

I don't like jet rangers
Title: Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Post by: JR on August 19, 2015, 03:13:34 PM
I can hear a Ranger or a Huey for 5 miles before they arrive. I knew a heli was coming up the canyon, but had no idea what this was until is was there. 
Title: Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Post by: JR on August 19, 2015, 03:19:07 PM
OK, back to the max. Had a talk with Tate and it cost me $1300,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, (er thanks?)

Since the new tires it lost its drive and mileage is way down. It needed a little help before with the 285s but the 35s put it over the edge. Plus the mild wheeling showed how inflexible the front is with just being cranked up.

Package on the way from Randy's with 4.56 gears for the front and back. Not sure about a locker yet, but I know the gov-lock is not the deal.

So I will get Spartan on the road (waiting on a few parts) and do the gears and lift at the same time.
Title: Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Post by: JR on August 20, 2015, 04:02:47 PM
Randys is fast, gears are here. I really want to do the rear soon and look for a front housing to build it before the lift.

The night before the truck was dead, 4 cells were low on water. Filled and charged it up and it ran fine for the day. Dead again today, off the Costco. They have dumped their Kirkland batteries for Interstate. Cost nothing as just 3 years old and these are maintenance free, so we will see. Glad they lasted through the trips in the mountains.

I have changed A LOT of Kirkland batteries after 2-3 years,,,,,,,,,,,,
Title: Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Post by: JR on August 25, 2015, 03:12:37 AM
Man 4 days already!! Been working on life. Spent most of today on the tow bars.

Decided with the lift and the gear change I wanted to build up the front diff before hand so the lift would be smoother. IE, not setting up a diff in the middle of the lift!
 
Anyway, after a little searching and lots of calls I was having no luck finding a 9.25 housing. So I put an add on Craigslist and the next morning I had 2 calls. 1 guy wanted 3-400 and the other name a fair price. I said 150 and it was a done deal. Had a broken upper mount, but its getting cut off anyway.
Title: Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Post by: TexasRedNeck on August 25, 2015, 07:06:51 AM
looking forward to seeing the inside of one of those in the event that I need to get in the one on my LB7
Title: Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Post by: Nate on August 25, 2015, 08:02:27 AM
Just hope that the c clip on the driverside releases.
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Post by: Flyin6 on August 25, 2015, 09:00:24 AM
Tate sells a E-Locker for that 9.5...The one in my LML has a different housing, E-Locker no fit!
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Post by: EL TATE on August 25, 2015, 04:18:50 PM
E locker no se existe ya. Eaton killed it a few months back since the H2 line is dead and they are no longer mass producing it for GM exclusively. There is also the fact that AAM changed the front design towards Don's style and upwards probably had a lot to do with it too, but if you can find an eaton e locker for a 9.25 ifs GM or solid axle 03+ dodge, buy it because I can't find them any anywhere.
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Post by: TexasRedNeck on August 25, 2015, 08:50:59 PM
Is that the only locker option or does someone like ARB make an Air Locker?
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Post by: EL TATE on August 26, 2015, 06:53:22 PM
ARB is now the only game in town. There is a true trac out there for dodge, but requires major surgery to get the GM snap ring design to work. I have sold it in one application in 6 years.
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Post by: JR on September 11, 2015, 10:31:30 AM
ARB is now the only game in town. There is a true trac out there for dodge, but requires major surgery to get the GM snap ring design to work. I have sold it in one application in 6 years.

Some traction device would be nice, but not in the plan as of now. I did drain the oil so I could move it around and it looked pretty good.

The drivers side front bearing is going again, thats gets done today with my spare. Then it will get new Timkins during the lift.
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Post by: JR on September 11, 2015, 09:32:55 PM
So got the hub replaced, getting good at it  ::) Couldn't find a 6 point 15m and had to get that, one head was rounded but I already had s few new bolts ($6ea).

Cept for the store run it was under 2 hours.

THEN I found that I had slop in the steering that I had just done! Ended up being one of the UBER $$$ Cognito HD tie rod  >:(

Still had my old ones so I grabbed one, matched the lengths (flat to zerk) and bolted it in. The other side was fine and I am back on the road.

This was a cheap hub I had for a spare as the lift looms ever closer with lots of new front end parts!

So what are the other options for the tie rod ends. With the lift they will be in line better with the new knuckles. Stocks are week and need a sleeve at minimum.

What else have you guys used and why did you chose em??
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Post by: TexasRedNeck on September 11, 2015, 10:39:23 PM
Im about to begin the process of neutering the LB7 from a 12 inch lift to a 6.

I'm eyeballing the Kryptonite system.  Idler mount and arm and Cognito PISK along with the Kryptonite centerlink and tie rods.

Muy Muy Muy $$ but seems to be the way to go and has a lifetime warranty
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Post by: JR on September 12, 2015, 12:44:34 AM
I have the Cognito center kit and a new idler.

My new kit is the Cognito 4-6 and I already have their UCA. I am about 3 inches now and plane to go right in the 4-5 area. Want to keep it under 7 ft for parking.
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Post by: BobbyB on September 12, 2015, 06:26:19 PM
Im about to begin the process of neutering the LB7 from a 12 inch lift to a 6.

I'm eyeballing the Kryptonite system.  Idler mount and arm and Cognito PISK along with the Kryptonite centerlink and tie rods.

Muy Muy Muy $$ but seems to be the way to go and has a lifetime warranty

Thought you were going to stick a solid front axle under the Bus?
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Post by: TexasRedNeck on September 12, 2015, 06:49:27 PM
I was Bobby, but its, expensive and rides harsh and requires a lot of fabricating and chasing down parts.  I'm just going to completely rebuild all the parts and put a smaller lift on it and then drive it and put free miles on it.  It just hit 137K!  I'll probably park the dually for a while unless I'm towing the redneck hotel
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Post by: BobbyB on September 13, 2015, 09:17:06 AM
I was Bobby, but its, expensive and rides harsh and requires a lot of fabricating and chasing down parts.  I'm just going to completely rebuild all the parts and put a smaller lift on it and then drive it and put free miles on it.  It just hit 137K!  I'll probably park the dually for a while unless I'm towing the redneck hotel

But it LOOKS cool! But I get your point.
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Post by: JR on October 20, 2015, 12:11:23 PM
Been gathering parts as I finish some yard work. new timken hubs (thx Nate) , Napa HD tie rods with TC sleeves (lifetime warranty)

3 kids in sports, scouts and all the other good stuff slows down build times.
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Post by: JR on September 07, 2016, 01:34:01 AM
Can't believe it has been almost a year on this. Guess an update is in order.

Shuffled things around and this along with a LS engine swap will get done before the Spartan conversion. Spartan has not changed, been getting parts for it. But I need the room and fewer projects before I tackle that engine swap. I even find myself looking on CL for diesel subs, and have found a few but price, location and funds don't meet.

So as I flip the 1500 sub, I will do the lift on this. First here will be the gear swap on the front housing. I am also seriously thinking of going to coilovers on the front (with the IFS) even though I have the no TBD lift. I am now sitting on 130k and it still runs sweet but the ride could be better.

Maybe Ken or Sean can give some input on the CO's? Looks to be almost a bolt in, but I may mode the upper mount and do a brace over the engine. Any thoughts on this guys?
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Post by: stlaser on September 07, 2016, 08:53:06 AM
My experience with CO's and all off road once you get them dialed in with correct spring rates etc they are great. Not sure I would do them on a DD as there is some maintenance that needs to be kept up on but then again how much do you plan on driving it? The over the engine brace really helps stiffen things up & I always did it. Mine had adjustments at both ends with heims to help dial it in.
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Post by: KensAuto on September 07, 2016, 09:58:16 AM
I don't have any experience with that type of conversion JR. I will say, that if you're starting from scratch, it might take a while ($$$) to get it dialed in just right.
Title: Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Post by: JR on September 07, 2016, 10:00:20 AM
What would be the issue with a DD, many vehicles come with them now. I am not a hard core off roader with this at all.

Seems to be lots of info out there on this and some kits, but wow are they $$$$$. Would also not like to drop 2K on a set of CO, but want something solid.

One issue would be the brace since there is not a lot of room over the top the dmax setup.
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Post by: stlaser on September 07, 2016, 12:29:03 PM
They're considered a high performance piece of equipment. A daily driver needs to drive, why complicate it by installing a component that will need adjustment & routine maintenance. The clause here is maybe they have low maintenance units out there now, all I recall is messing with them all the time. Walk thru the pits of any off road race & you'll quickly see what I mean....
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Post by: Bear9350 on September 07, 2016, 01:22:19 PM
I looked into doing this on my 03 before I decided to sell it.  I found a few guys that had done it.  They appeared to beat on them fairly hard and the last time I checked had over a year with no issues.  They didn't have any extra re-enforcements added.  This was on the DD forum.  Most of the guys that had done it were doing it to lower the front some and remove weight for racing.  There was one or two that were lifted though.  I think there biggest issue was finding the right springs for the application.
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Post by: JR on September 07, 2016, 02:09:01 PM
So lets say I do this. There is what, King, Fox, QA1, Bilstien and probably a few more you guys know of.

I already have Cognito UCA, so what is the maint issue on CO vs keeping em clean?
Title: Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Post by: stlaser on September 07, 2016, 10:01:46 PM
JR, what are you asking? It's a truck, why is being clean a concern. I don't understand, Ken will probably say it's a hippy thing..... ::)
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Post by: JR on September 07, 2016, 10:12:08 PM
He mentioned they need maintenance, just wondering what?
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Post by: stlaser on September 08, 2016, 09:46:51 AM
JR, my experience is seals, amount of oil, valving & spring rate tuning. Seals are good for so many cycles this great for an off road toy you "want" to wrench on.

Now with all of this said if there are "kits" which you said were pricey then what you're paying for is their due diligence in taking the time & headache to figure it out for you.

I guess where I'm at (& it is a different place than when I was 20) is that I have to weigh in the pros versus the cons. You drive a Chevy & no offense but they're the closest truck to a Cadillac out there & you want a better ride yet? If you needed to save weight (racing) or needed the room versus a leaf spring setup whatever I get it. But to take a suspension with 50 billion man hours in testing & development to reinvent the wheel I just don't see why you would spend the hard earned dollars on this upgrade if it is in fact an upgrade.

Again this is just me and one opinion but you wouldn't catch me doing this.
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Post by: JR on September 08, 2016, 10:13:06 AM
Changed the #6 glow plug again with an NGK(AC not in stock) vs generic and CES is gone finally.
Title: Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Post by: JR on September 08, 2016, 10:33:50 AM
Well Sean, I can't say it rides bad, but think it could be much better. As for shock seals, why would a coilover seal be worse or better than a regular shock? I run bilstien 5100 now which work well.

Now I attribute much of that to having the TB turned up with little down travel. The Cognito UCA help there, but I am using up spindles and upper ball joints. Been through some tie rod ends too. Now much of that will be fixed with the cognito lift I have, bringing things back into alignment. Perhaps with that and new shocks a better ride will occur. Either way I have to get new shocks with the lift and I got the NTBD lift to keep a cleaner look.

Thanks for the input, not sure yet.
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Post by: JR on September 14, 2016, 12:58:46 AM
Anyway, she is running great, but the stock tune just sucks air. (had to see the emissions, passed with flying colors)

Saw a lifted 16 today, but those TB were nasty hanging down. It had less clearance than mine and was taller!

Still like the idea of the CO for the front.
Title: Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Post by: JR on March 22, 2017, 11:12:01 AM
Anyone have a GM 2500/3500 CV outer or the whole shaft? Looking to mod my engine stand and need that for my upgrade.
Title: Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Post by: JR on September 20, 2018, 05:44:40 PM
Well, with life doing its normal thing all this has been on hold for the past year.

I have decided to go SAS though and found a Dana 60. Selling the cognito stuff will offset its cost. It is a 1988 HP from a F350, 4.10 open (per the billvista code) Mounting is 36.5 and have been researching kits, but looking more like a complete DIY. Need to get Spartan running first since I just paid the tags for another year and need multi pass vehicles.

Got some 37/12.5-17 Coopers MTPs for it too, so the lift is needed for those. Will move the axle 1in forward with 5-6 lift on the SAS.

Also got some carb legal manifolds for the exhaust as I still have to mess with Ca smogs.
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Post by: JR on September 20, 2018, 07:28:26 PM
Those are not my rims, just a pic of the tires,,,,,,,
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Post by: rpar86 on September 20, 2018, 09:29:46 PM
Which cognito lift do you have? The 4-6??


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Post by: JR on September 20, 2018, 09:59:13 PM
Which cognito lift do you have? The 4-6??


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Yep the 4-6 front non torsion bar drop and I have their upper A arms on the truck now. New Timken hubs and few other little things. I just looked and just the kit is $1780. Going to throw it up here, CL and pirate PDQ. Would add the UCA too but they are still in use, those are over $500 now! I figure $1500 for the lift and other stuff, add $300 for the UCA when they come off.

Guess I kinda did put it up here first  :facepalm:   
Title: Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Post by: rpar86 on September 20, 2018, 10:02:47 PM
I?d be interested if I had the cash available :(


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Post by: JR on September 20, 2018, 10:05:33 PM
That's always the biggie and shipping would be up there.
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Post by: rpar86 on September 20, 2018, 10:51:07 PM
You?re only an 8hr drive.


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Title: Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Post by: JR on September 20, 2018, 10:59:50 PM
Reno is about a 3rd of the way and I'm due for a trip. (let me out of here!!)
Title: Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Post by: JR on September 22, 2018, 02:50:01 AM
Got the 60 out so I can wood for the fence tomorrow. $8 dolly from HF and a couple 4x make for easy moving. MC jack was not working at all!

Listing a few things on CL and pirate to recoop some funds.
Title: Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Post by: JR on September 22, 2018, 02:58:05 AM
Didn't realize I started this thread well over 3 years ago! I now have just under 160k on it, runs great but needs a better tune.
Title: Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Post by: BobbyB on September 22, 2018, 08:06:55 AM
I know what you cna do with an 06 with 160K on it... sell it to me! Just kidding.. for now
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Post by: Farmer Jon on September 22, 2018, 09:11:59 AM
I know what you cna do with an 06 with 160K on it... sell it to me! Just kidding.. for now


I have an 07 classic with 160k on it that I have been considering selling. I just dumped 5 grand in it so I am going to want a little more than the book says its worth.
Title: Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Post by: JR on September 22, 2018, 01:08:41 PM
I see them on CL for around 25K around here, not terrible.

I can see a trans build for me in the next year or so. Never had an issue and has the transgo jr, but I push it time to time and it gets hot to easy.

Title: Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Post by: rpar86 on September 22, 2018, 09:25:36 PM
About $25k is what I value mine at as well. Only 113k on it.


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Title: Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Post by: Flyin6 on September 23, 2018, 11:56:09 AM
JR, SAS, gutsy move Mav!
Title: Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Post by: JR on September 23, 2018, 02:28:02 PM
Nice thing is I have most of the axle/steering parts already. Sean has a set of RC gears. I make hangers, go with chevy 56in springs (cheap with many options) and I am set. Biggest expense will be shocks.

Dang, those 37s are big!!
Title: Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Post by: stlaser on September 23, 2018, 02:42:08 PM
I like those tires
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Post by: JR on September 23, 2018, 02:57:29 PM
Those are the STT, I got the MTP made for DT by Cooper. They have a little friendlier center treat for maybe longer wear and a touch quieter.

Those are the 37s I'm getting with my worn 35s behind em. Nice thing with DT I can get either tire!

We need to talk some more to see what I can get from you on this.
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Post by: stlaser on September 23, 2018, 03:08:46 PM
Those are the STT, I got the MTP made for DT by Cooper. They have a little friendlier center treat for maybe longer wear and a touch quieter.

Those are the 37s I'm getting with my worn 35s behind em. Nice thing with DT I can get either tire!

We need to talk some more to see what I can get from you on this.

I understand, hit me up this week and I can text you some pics etc until new site is ready.
Title: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Post by: Bigdave_185 on September 23, 2018, 05:07:10 PM
Why not get the newer ford front end style sas kit. ?

http://www.wfoconcepts.com/cr/Chevy-GMC-2500-3500-HD-00-10/9105/10446

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Title: Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Post by: JR on September 23, 2018, 05:58:58 PM
Those are the STT, I got the MTP made for DT by Cooper. They have a little friendlier center treat for maybe longer wear and a touch quieter.

Those are the 37s I'm getting with my worn 35s behind em. Nice thing with DT I can get either tire!

We need to talk some more to see what I can get from you on this.

I understand, hit me up this week and I can text you some pics etc until new site is ready.

Will do, plus the gears. They are Tate approved,,,,,,,,,,,,
Title: Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Post by: JR on September 23, 2018, 06:07:52 PM
Why not get the newer ford front end style sas kit. ?

http://www.wfoconcepts.com/cr/Chevy-GMC-2500-3500-HD-00-10/9105/10446

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Well, its $1500 to start with and not made for my axle. It has crossed my mind (carefull)

Plus I want leafs so I don't have to mess with coil over mounts and coil overs that cost as much as the truck! The normal spring for this is 47in. If I use a gm 56in spring I can get about any rate I want and they are cheap!
 
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Post by: Bigdave_185 on September 23, 2018, 06:16:05 PM
That kills the ride quality a fair amount doesn?t it?


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Title: Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Post by: JR on September 23, 2018, 10:14:58 PM
Leaf springs? Can't ride worse than a torsion bar and its a truck. I like a firm ride not an Escalade.
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Post by: Bigdave_185 on September 24, 2018, 12:17:53 AM
I hear H does too.  Ol Ken!?


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Title: Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Post by: TexasRedNeck on September 24, 2018, 08:27:46 AM
JR. How do you determine the right spring rate?  I imagine it would ride funny if the spring rates were way off.  Is there a way to get it right without having to do trial and error?
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Post by: TexasRedNeck on September 24, 2018, 08:34:56 AM
Dave, thanks for that link.  I think I'll get those shackle flip kit and get rid of the crappy blocks.

Next thing, after replacing the hydroboost that has been sitting on my bench for 5 months... is to put a grizzly locker in the rear.  The G80 is toast.
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Post by: stlaser on September 24, 2018, 08:59:36 AM
Dave, thanks for that link.  I think I'll get those shackle flip kit and get rid of the crappy blocks.

Next thing, after replacing the hydroboost that has been sitting on my bench for 5 months... is to put a grizzly locker in the rear.  The G80 is toast.

Buy stock in some tire companies first..... :popcorn:
Title: Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Post by: Flyin6 on September 24, 2018, 10:02:30 AM
Dave, thanks for that link.  I think I'll get those shackle flip kit and get rid of the crappy blocks.

Next thing, after replacing the hydroboost that has been sitting on my bench for 5 months... is to put a grizzly locker in the rear.  The G80 is toast.
You'll come to love that Grizzly
Just remember to use liberal amounts of grizzly grease while assembling.
Title: Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Post by: JR on September 24, 2018, 12:38:35 PM
I plan on a rear locker since I'm doing gears, as well as the shackle flip.

Should be done, well before Square D is,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, :cool:
Title: Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Post by: JR on September 24, 2018, 09:39:59 PM
I want to start getting parts for this as I rebuild the front end.

Pretty sure I can use almost everything from my dodge dana 60 on this, cept the gears and that is covered. That should cover the cross-over steering and internals, less outer 35s?

So I need spring brackets, springs, shocks and hoops. Not sure if I want to fill the frame when I cut all the stuff off. It would look cleaner though. Also do I need a panhard bar, GMs don't use em. Then a pitman arm for the crossover and I will use tierod ends. A anti sway bar is in the plans.

Hopefully Tate and Sean are watching this and will chime in.
Title: Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Post by: stlaser on September 24, 2018, 10:08:17 PM
Track bar, yes I would. Lift springs etc. good idea.....

I have any lower shock brackets you might need all formed from 1/4?, straight, 45 degree or 90 degree to axle shafts. Torch stock ones off an upgrade while moving them higher so they are not dragging on things off road.
Title: Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Post by: EL TATE on September 25, 2018, 09:16:41 AM
Gears, lockers, axle shafts, I've got them all in Fresno, just let me know what you're looking for JR.
Title: Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Post by: JR on September 25, 2018, 11:13:32 AM
Hoping I can use most pf what I have for the dodge dana 60 on the ford. Which outers might be a question with the ford hubs, but the outers can switch over right? Fords are .6 longer and have diff brakes than the dodge.
Title: Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Post by: stlaser on September 25, 2018, 12:42:06 PM
Ask Tate or even Norm but I think you can trim those stubs down and run them on the Dodge setup

Edit: think I had that backwards in my head. You have the shorter dodge stubs already so no cutting down to work
Title: Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Post by: stlaser on September 25, 2018, 12:53:04 PM
Also something to consider the Ford oem knuckles I think are the weakest of the bunch. May not be a bad idea to upgrade those to run other components you have already
Title: Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Post by: JR on September 25, 2018, 01:18:41 PM
Have talked to Tate a little. Prob keep the axle as it is more or less. Sure gears and rebuild even keeping the ford brakes.

I do need to address the tone ring, which looks to be a 55. Kits are around for it, about $100 and machine the hubs (which I can do).

Also need to address the tcase. Will need a yoke eliminator kit and rear case since I got the rub. Thinking about upgrading to better case and going manual. Its a 263XHD and there are a few compatible (mp1225/6, mp1625/6). Need a 29 spline input and a 31 rear slip.

Lots of little things to get together. 
Title: Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Post by: JR on October 03, 2018, 12:29:11 AM
Got the lift sold, just waiting on funds and boxed it up for fasenal shipping.
Title: Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Post by: JR on October 03, 2018, 01:04:37 AM
At first it seemed simple, but there is no SAS kit for the Dmax and a HP D60 with 36.5 leaf mounts. I want to stay with leafs, coilovers break the bank in many ways.

Now Sky has a kit for the later HP D60, but it has the 8x170 bolt pattern and ball joints. That D60 also has 38.5 pads and uses angled shackles. I thought why not just push my mounts out 1 inch or so and go with the same idea, but with a small twist (well no twist). The SKY SAS kit is not expensive, but all I need are front and read hanger and some shackles, right?

So my idea is to move the pads out a little on the axle. 1 side is easy and the HP side is a little more work but not hard. This may not even be needed once I measure some more, but my frame is 38 inside to inside now.

So front mounts can go where I want really, just match the pad width. Shawn tells me keeping the spring mounts sorta level works best and caster can be managed with shims if needed. For the rear mounts you drill the frame and weld bushings in place. Plenty of meat there on the frame, inside and out. So why not extend the upper tube and use a longer bushing vs the angled shackle? Then on the spring end just use an alum spacer (or weld a steel spacer) giving me straight shackles? This would add about an inch to each rear shackle bolt.

Just wondering if the stress on the longer bolts would be to much? The upper should be no concern as the shear would be on the ends just like a short bushing. The lower with the spacer might be a concern, but would it?

After posting I think a welded steel spacer on the shackle would be a better idea placing all the stress on the bolt ends as is the normal

Here is a pic showing how SKY does it and my idea.
Title: Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Post by: KensAuto on October 03, 2018, 10:22:26 AM
Looks fine to me but there will be a lot of twisting on the spacer, so I would probably leave it loose over welding it and weekening the shackle.

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Title: Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Post by: stlaser on October 03, 2018, 10:28:43 AM
Ditch that aluminum spacer or steel one, bend the outside shackle so it has a dog leg in it. Long bolt on top and standard bolt on bottom....
Title: Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Post by: KensAuto on October 03, 2018, 12:04:05 PM
Sounds like something a hippie would do.
JR likes things symmetrical, don't you know.
See that redwood fence? Probably wasn't more than 20 thou out over the entire length!

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Title: Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Post by: JR on October 03, 2018, 02:16:01 PM
So you like the dogleg over the straight shackle? Shorter bolts will be stronger and allow more flex.

You know the diff between a contractor and a enviromentalist? The environmentalist lives a house in the woods, the contractor wants to build a house in the woods.

Title: Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Post by: stlaser on October 03, 2018, 07:14:34 PM
I like the dog leg version.....
Title: Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Post by: TexasRedNeck on October 03, 2018, 08:03:36 PM
Why not just re position the spring pads and save all the extra engineering?


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Title: Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Post by: EL TATE on October 04, 2018, 09:46:56 AM
Hey, you quit that sense making talk there Charles!
Title: Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Post by: stlaser on October 04, 2018, 10:51:19 AM
Why not just re position the spring pads and save all the extra engineering?


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That wasn't an option.... can't you read pictures!   :rolleyes:

Quit thinking outside the box, bad comrade!  :facepalm:
Title: Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Post by: dave945 on October 04, 2018, 11:17:11 AM
Or if you want to save some work, just reposition the left one and shift the whole axle so the right one lines up.


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Title: Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Post by: KensAuto on October 04, 2018, 12:59:39 PM
Or if you want to save some work, just reposition the left one and shift the whole axle so the right one lines up.


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 :facepalm:
Title: Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Post by: JR on October 04, 2018, 01:32:22 PM
Or if you want to save some work, just reposition the left one and shift the whole axle so the right one lines up.


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How would that work? One wheel out 2 inches more that the other  :huh:


Anyway I had a nice long post and never submitted it  :popcorn:


Yep, easiest is to move the pads, use the kit, done. Shawn wants me to go with deaver springs, love to but a grand for springs!!
Title: Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Post by: Bob/OlallaWa on October 04, 2018, 01:37:12 PM
A grand for springs is a small part of the project it sounds like to me. Good springs mean a lot in the end game
Title: Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Post by: stlaser on October 04, 2018, 03:09:09 PM
For the record, I told him do it right once and be done....

Deaver has about the best name and I told him to call them and let them help him get the correct spring for his build, they are the experts imo.

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Title: Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Post by: cudakidd53 on October 04, 2018, 03:11:26 PM
Or if you want to save some work, just reposition the left one and shift the whole axle so the right one lines up.


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How would that work? One wheel out 2 inches more that the other  :huh:


Anyway I had a nice long post and never submitted it  :popcorn:


Yep, easiest is to move the pads, use the kit, done. Shawn wants me to go with deaver springs, love to but a grand for springs!!

When your teeth are chipped and your eyeballs look like googly eyes on springs.......$1000 will be well worth it!
Title: Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Post by: KensAuto on October 04, 2018, 04:42:54 PM
Same guy that wants you to put a shackle in the vise and beat it with a hammer wants you to go with primo springs? Is this guy from Denver or somethin'? :)
Title: Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Post by: stlaser on October 04, 2018, 05:00:41 PM
Same guy that wants you to put a shackle in the vise and beat it with a hammer wants you to go with primo springs? Is this guy from Denver or somethin'? :)

Hey H lover, I sold JR a press brake for his hf bender. Apparently us hippies are a little more refined then you all down in the desert using vices and hammers to bend things. You may want to drink some fluids I think your dehydrated and starting to get a bit confused....

BTW, this is going to be a daily driver and I know how much you chevy guys like your trucks to ride like cars so that was the other thing I took into consideration when making that recommendation.  :tongue:
Title: Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Post by: cudakidd53 on October 04, 2018, 07:08:57 PM
Same guy that wants you to put a shackle in the vise and beat it with a hammer wants you to go with primo springs? Is this guy from Denver or somethin'? :)

Hopefully some day you?ll have to put Hildabeast?s shackles in a vice to take her on a date behind some thick walls and high fences!  Better yet, put her in a vice and beat her with a hammer!
Title: Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Post by: wilsonphil on October 04, 2018, 08:23:07 PM
Or if you want to save some work, just reposition the left one and shift the whole axle so the right one lines up.


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How would that work? One wheel out 2 inches more that the other  :huh:


Anyway I had a nice long post and never submitted it  :popcorn:


Yep, easiest is to move the pads, use the kit, done. Shawn wants me to go with deaver springs, love to but a grand for springs!!


I agree with the Deaver spring, you will not regret paying the money.
Title: Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Post by: JR on October 05, 2018, 03:28:40 AM



When your teeth are chipped and your eyeballs look like googly eyes on springs.......$1000 will be well worth it!

I look like that now!

Deaver vs Alcon? (this is fun!)
Title: Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Post by: wilsonphil on October 05, 2018, 10:18:21 AM
I had a very poor experience with Alcon!
Title: Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Post by: Flyin6 on October 05, 2018, 02:04:04 PM
Not trying to introduce a spirit of devisiveness

but

I had Alcan build me a custom set for my Tundra project that I made into a SAS and those springs worked well for years.

I think Deavers use more, thinner leaves and are actually at the upper end

Check out Atlas Spring too.
Title: Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Post by: JR on October 05, 2018, 02:18:55 PM
My research was showing more complaints on the deavers vs alcons. I did a worksheet on alcons but have not heard back

Have my gears on the way and looking at other things. (spring vs preload steering arm on the 60)
Title: Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Post by: EL TATE on October 05, 2018, 04:43:12 PM
Check these guys out JR. https://www.aalbubrothers.com/ they did the re-arch on my 8" lift springs for the Wagoneer. They are OLD SCHOOL, grumpy, dirty, and the shop usually has a pile of misc stuff laying around, but their tools are always meticulously clean and organized. That tells me all I needed to know. Plus I drive past them on my way home and could check in on the build before they ship out.
Title: Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Post by: JR on October 05, 2018, 06:39:13 PM
If I don't go with a big name there is a local shop here I have used. Valley Spring Works in Dixon and Sacramento Spring too.

No website but I have used them a couple times for both a re-arch and the military add on to my sub build.
Title: Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Post by: JR on October 05, 2018, 11:35:27 PM
Keeping with leafs both for price, ease of install and keeping from getting 10 inches of lift.

I ran across the idea of using sliders instead of the shackles. Reviews look good, really good. They say they help with stability since you don't have that shackle being twisted in turns.

These would also allow me to keep the spring pads as is. Allow a lower front mount with these flat on the frame with maybe just a plate and gusset, or even a bolt on mount?

Anyone used em at all? 

Title: Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Post by: stlaser on October 05, 2018, 11:59:43 PM
I wheeled with a guy last winter who had them on a built Dakota with 38?s

I watched his suspension as he went over obstacles, for leaf springs it did alright....
Title: Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Post by: Flyin6 on October 06, 2018, 09:37:41 AM
Never heard of those...

Innovation, where does it lead next???
Title: Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Post by: JR on October 16, 2018, 03:20:05 PM
How about some input here guys as I throw a few things around. 1500 is about done and will have Spartan to drive during this.

Now I can do leafs or coilover, cost is about the same (read below). I will buy some brackets but most will be DIY. Plus the idea is to keep it around a 6 inch or less lift for my 37s.

Coils are more work but should ride better, allow some adjustability both in height and can be rebuilt. Bilstein came out with a new 60mm coilover they say will handle an SAS. (#33-225616) Have to get shocks anyway so stepping to coilovers is like buying custom springs. It would be radius arm, not 4 link.

Leafs will be much easier, really more time removing the IFS than building the setup. I may loose some turning radius most use the 32.5 over the 36.5 axle I have. Many of the kits are for a 38.5 axle so radius may not be a big issue at all.
Title: Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Post by: stlaser on October 16, 2018, 05:01:30 PM
With leafs it?s once and done, with coil overs you?re increasing your maintenance load. I like trucks to ride like trucks though, I know a foreign concept to you Chevy guys.....
Title: Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Post by: JR on October 16, 2018, 06:54:44 PM
Thx Shawn, I like trucks to ride like a truck too. Another reason to go with leafs. If I want foofoo, I will get a Denali,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Plus with your background, maybe you have done this once or twice.
Title: Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Post by: Bob/OlallaWa on October 16, 2018, 07:43:50 PM
Thx Shawn, I like trucks to ride like a truck too. Another reason to go with leafs. If I want foofoo, I will get a Denali,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Plus with your background, maybe you have done this once or twice.



I had to go outside and look,just kidding, but my Denali has leafs. The Denali is what they had in the color I wanted. I finally used the sliding rear window too, Hauled my tree trimmer and it had to sit inside the cab a ways as it is too long for the truck bed.
Sounds like you are getting close JR. What are you going to do with all the room in front of the house when you trim down the heard?