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Title: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on August 25, 2017, 10:20:55 PM
Well, the boneheads junked up the last thread, Part 4 so bad, that I have abandoned it. I'll just pick up here in part 5 where I left off there. Those useless DOTs managed to swell that thread out to 39 pages making it long enough to cause psychological damage and TAS (Thread Addiction Syndrome)!

So first up, I ripped a cylinder apart on the 4720 again. so I have removed that for repair, again.

The fault was with my weld. That steel that the piston rod is made from is very brittle, and apparently pretty hard to weld right. Even though I had a very hot weld, there was poor penetration, and it was my weld that actually let go. I'll detail that later on
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on August 25, 2017, 10:21:50 PM
Here are the new set of steps which provide access to the mechanical room:
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on August 25, 2017, 10:23:48 PM
They aren't square, but they are level. I guess getting one out of two is good enough!

Just below those steps and near the camper, I excavated the embankment to make room for another set of natural limestone steps
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on August 25, 2017, 10:25:26 PM
Here's the steps

A bit disorganized at the moment. but believe you-me they will be

Just have to give up some sweat, a few spinal column disks and some swear words!
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on August 25, 2017, 10:27:34 PM
And I started modifying my Armee HMMV trailer to carry water and fuel. I am detailing that build in the trailer section
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Nate on August 26, 2017, 09:59:18 AM
 :likebutton:
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Bigdave_185 on August 26, 2017, 04:53:38 PM
What type of wood did you use for the treads on the steps?


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Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: stlaser on August 26, 2017, 05:24:30 PM
Complaining about DOT's, making piss poor welds & tearing up equipment, building poorly engineered steps that are missing a hand rail so Don ends up falling and breaking a hip then ends with a pile of rocks he calls steps......

Only in the Tuck!

 :likebutton:

Trailer looks mo better
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Sammconn on August 26, 2017, 06:11:00 PM
I don't think part 5 will stop the DOT...
More carnage, to be expected...on this thread anyways.
Trailer looks real good, the combo paint mix turned out a good olive.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on August 26, 2017, 09:24:25 PM
What type of wood did you use for the treads on the steps?


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Pressure treated SYP 2 X 4, and 2 X 6
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on August 26, 2017, 09:25:18 PM
Complaining about DOT's, making piss poor welds & tearing up equipment, building poorly engineered steps that are missing a hand rail so Don ends up falling and breaking a hip then ends with a pile of rocks he calls steps......

Only in the Tuck!

 :likebutton:

Trailer looks mo better
Ah, it all gonna be a-ight!
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on August 26, 2017, 09:28:58 PM
I don't think part 5 will stop the DOT...
More carnage, to be expected...on this thread anyways.
Trailer looks real good, the combo paint mix turned out a good olive.
Sam, I think so.

It's not really going for the tacti-cool look but more or less just fit in with all my green stuff.

The camo was a semi gloss, the JD green was a gloss, and of course adding hardener will gloss up any paint.

So it is a bit more than semi gloss, but not full on gloss

Here it is today. Still taped up and in my view, curing, but completely dry to the touch. I'll unmask it in the morrow and continue with the creation of this refuel/water service trailer
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on August 26, 2017, 09:39:02 PM
Spent another day on the road widening and smoothing, working this seriously narrow constriction which already claimed one dump truck and one of my air bags
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on August 26, 2017, 09:41:53 PM
There is quite a bit of earth to remove here.

First cut is about two feet straight into the bank. Once that is made along a couple hundred foot advance, I make a second and third cut laying the vertical embankment back to something a bit less than 45 degrees
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on August 26, 2017, 09:43:37 PM
That yielded several piles of earth, which I spread out here and there and flattened it somewhat, although I will smooth all that out with a tractor and a box scraper once the rough in is complete
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on August 26, 2017, 09:46:05 PM
Here the steep embankment has been cut away. This is a good point to leave the cut, as it now requires a finer touch that my JD tractor can provide when it is not broken down
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on August 26, 2017, 09:47:42 PM
Pre-Ranger Bravo was set against a four board fence with brush in hand and a gallon of black paint
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on August 26, 2017, 09:49:41 PM
He used all of it and didn't finish. I later found out he laid down three coats to get the coverage he felt he needed. Talk about blowing through paint! He finished most of one side:
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on August 26, 2017, 09:51:49 PM
Meanwhile, pre ranger alpha ran around in circles atop the 2720 tractor cutting grass for about 5 hours!
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on August 26, 2017, 09:53:32 PM
They even squeaked out a bit of fun time

The well worn in Honda CR-80
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: KensAuto on August 26, 2017, 11:04:38 PM
Found your dump truck.  :p

http://surplusmilitarydepot.com/1990-general-m929a2-rebuilt-military-6x6-dump-truck/
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Bigdave_185 on August 26, 2017, 11:39:45 PM
Um that thing is bad!!! Buy that!


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Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: cudakidd53 on August 27, 2017, 10:28:38 AM
Pre-Ranger Bravo was set against a four board fence with brush in hand and a gallon of black paint

You got a "Pre-Ranger" who's doing the job right the first time?  BUY MORE PAINT AND SMILE!  :knucklehead:
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: stlaser on August 27, 2017, 10:45:44 AM
Pre-Ranger Bravo was set against a four board fence with brush in hand and a gallon of black paint

You got a "Pre-Ranger" who's doing the job right the first time?  BUY MORE PAINT AND SMILE!  :knucklehead:


X2, then get your kid a helmet for the 80 (yes I know we didn't wear them as kids either & survived, barely) but it's a good idea........
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on August 27, 2017, 07:11:44 PM
Pre-Ranger Bravo was set against a four board fence with brush in hand and a gallon of black paint

You got a "Pre-Ranger" who's doing the job right the first time?  BUY MORE PAINT AND SMILE!  :knucklehead:


X2, then get your kid a helmet for the 80 (yes I know we didn't wear them as kids either & survived, barely) but it's a good idea........
He has a helmet!

Remember, he's a pre-Ranger, not a pre-Pilot!
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on August 30, 2017, 09:27:58 PM
Refuelling and water trailer project if pushing ahead. Picked up all the parts to get that finished and built up the tank today. Water tank was painted with a two part epoxy and is currently drying and poisoning the neighbors...Its all good!
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on September 01, 2017, 09:11:11 PM
Trailer progressed to this point today:
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on September 03, 2017, 10:23:22 PM
No farmage today due to Hurricane Harvey having visited the area for two days. So I'll continue on the trailer build. Today I created the frame, although incomplete at this point, a good start. The trailer gets covered with canvas or bear pelts, whichever I can scratch up to keep the sun and mother nature on the outside
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on September 05, 2017, 09:19:38 PM
Two days more spent changing the place up.

Memorial day, we had a family thing down there. But we also had some fun with the heavy machinery as well.

My soon to be new son, when he gets the tux and wedding gown thing done, operated these things in the past. He would tell people asking where does he work, "In a glass room."

He told me pretty quickly that my Kobelco was set up for John Deere controls, and not CAT. Heck, I thought it was Cat, but I can say it does take getting used to.

At first he was bumping into stuff, but as we went along, he had that thing speaking french. He commented that it was a great machine. Very smooth, powerful, quiet, and problem free. Watching it dig in the hands of someone who actually knows how to work it was a pleasure
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on September 05, 2017, 09:20:52 PM
Of course, Scout was hanging out in the water like normal
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on September 05, 2017, 09:22:32 PM
This all started out when the daughter asked me to show her what the thing could do

I dug a little while, then offered it up to the potential moving target
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on September 05, 2017, 09:24:47 PM
But he just kept digging and digging. So I felt inspired and jumped in Sarge.

Before long we were moving some serious dirt
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on September 05, 2017, 09:27:49 PM
He was pretty good on Chief

He was separating out a pile of boulders, which I used all day today building a wall and flattening what spinal column discs I have remaining
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on September 05, 2017, 09:31:59 PM
As nightfall settled in, we just kept digging and moving dirt

We are cutting a shelf here which I will move down to take the planet down another eight feet closer to sea level, then dig another shelf and repeat until I have something visible from orbit

That little bit of digging allowed me to push a ten foot wide section of the "Dam" outward 3-4 feet

It also left me with a small mountain of dirt still to move
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on September 05, 2017, 09:33:09 PM
Here's that stack of stonehenge builders:
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on September 05, 2017, 09:35:05 PM
Someone mentioned that I could actually sell those things!

Who'd ah thunk it?

One was so big that the J-Deere could only grab it and rotate it, but could not lift it

Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on September 05, 2017, 09:36:53 PM
That tire was pushed down to about half height!

I was anticipating the explosive rupture, but those heavily plugged and patched tires held in there to fight another day

I found a place for that stonehenge part
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on September 05, 2017, 09:37:41 PM
Dog didn't mind its placement near his crash pad
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on September 05, 2017, 09:40:46 PM
So the technique turned out to be, load Sarge's bucket up, then rumple in the organ jarring machine over to near the job site, a couple hundred meters away, then grab the tractor and use it to place the stones. Oddly enough when the tractor couldn't move the stones, I'd dismount, grab my now bent spud bar and pry them into position

I used them to build one of the many rock walls going up
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on September 05, 2017, 09:41:59 PM
Believe you, me, there is a considerable work effort into the placement of a single stone!
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on September 05, 2017, 09:44:52 PM
I hand dug the spot for each stone, then leveled and bedded it with strategic piles of gravel, then locked it into position with the adjacent stones with #57 gravel poured all around the rock.

Look at the size of those things
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on September 05, 2017, 09:46:05 PM
The first course is always the most difficult, but finally I had it!
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on September 05, 2017, 09:48:40 PM
I followed that with a second and a third course, then a top cap bolder to anchor it in place. I did not finish, but am pretty close to. However, I am out of builder stones, so I'll have to do some more work with chief.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on September 05, 2017, 09:51:00 PM
At this point it was maybe ten hours of straight work with no food and only energy drinks twice. I had to load the tractor to get ready to drive home so I called it a day for the heavy stuff here
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on September 05, 2017, 09:53:24 PM
I plan to stuff some LED landscape lights into the larger crevices in the rock to light the path, but not broadcast a ton of light everywhere

Last chore was to repair this heavily used and abused picnic table. I screwed everything back together and called that good for another several years
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on September 05, 2017, 09:54:00 PM
Didn't turn out too shabby!
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on September 05, 2017, 09:55:04 PM
But its not done. THe whole thing gets that cap stone, and I need to finish out this course of stones
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on September 05, 2017, 09:56:02 PM
Dog is ever present!

30 ton pile of #57 is well under ten tons at this point!
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on September 05, 2017, 09:58:20 PM
And of course, the ever present CARREP

Apparently, someone got a wee bit too aggressive with the tractor whilst pushing stonehenge builder block numba hanna into place. THe side caved in without my ever hearing a thing

Well, I can't hear anyway, so can't say if it made a sound
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on September 05, 2017, 09:59:05 PM
OK, off to a well deserved shower and sleepy town

CYA!
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: KensAuto on September 05, 2017, 10:53:26 PM
That looks really_other  :)________ Don. My back hurts just thinking about it.
BDE (Big Don Edit)Edit: Ken, you forgot a word...Choose one (Good, Bad, Neat, Crappy, Useless, Cool...Other)
I've watched some of those "fancy pool" shows, where they use similar stones from Tennessee (and probably the tuck among others) to build grottos and such.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Bigdave_185 on September 05, 2017, 10:56:24 PM
That rock looked pretty darned massive, that's the best place to put it?


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Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: cudakidd53 on September 06, 2017, 06:48:41 AM
That rock looked pretty darned massive, that's the best place to put it?


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It's there to protect the water house from damage.....:undecided:
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on September 06, 2017, 10:35:35 AM
That rock looked pretty darned massive, that's the best place to put it?


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Well, that's as far as the tractor could move it!
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: wyorunner on September 06, 2017, 01:14:23 PM
When chief grows a thumb you might have to reposition that massive piece of creation.


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Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: BobbyB on September 06, 2017, 01:17:23 PM
Watching it dig in the hands of someone who actually knows how to work it was a pleasure

Bet he didn't break anything/cause an unintended leak/dent/scratch.. or cause any otherwise pricey problem...
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: TexasRedNeck on September 06, 2017, 03:36:56 PM
   Don there is something about stones being put in an orderly fashion into the landscape that lends an air of permanence and quality. Nicely done sir.


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Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Sammconn on September 06, 2017, 07:54:37 PM
Yes looks real good.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on September 07, 2017, 10:30:49 AM
When chief grows a thumb you might have to reposition that massive piece of creation.


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You come up here, and you can install that thumb!
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on September 07, 2017, 10:32:13 AM
   Don there is something about stones being put in an orderly fashion into the landscape that lends an air of permanence and quality. Nicely done sir.


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Three elements

Rock, glass, wood

I'm keepin' it simple
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on September 10, 2017, 08:06:33 PM
Well the last couple days, I took the newly modified Armee trailer down farm side transferring 84 gallons of dino oil to Sarge, Chief and into the rebuilt storage tank.

That storage tank is now at around 75 gallons, whilst, Chief has 56-70 and Chief has another 75.

I can run for awhile on that thank goodness!
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on September 10, 2017, 08:09:36 PM
The first afternoon and into the night I moved dirt with Sarge to track in and enlarge the levee impounding my canine swimming hole
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on September 10, 2017, 08:12:10 PM
The next morning it was rock n' roll time. (Load up the rocks, and roll them up the hill with Sarge
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on September 10, 2017, 08:13:45 PM
Then I finished stacking in the southeast wall. One down, four to go!
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on September 10, 2017, 08:15:29 PM
I'll throw in some 12 vdc wiring for landscape lighting next time down there before final backfilling

I honored my alma mater with the proper T-Shirt!
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on September 10, 2017, 08:16:57 PM
Then I moved to the front entrance, 3/4 mile away and cleaned all that up
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on September 10, 2017, 08:19:19 PM
My neighbor and I will add in a 20 foot gate in the immediate future to secure his property and double secure mine. Two grand old trees sit opposed to each other and make perfect posts and sit perfectly for a 20' fence
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on September 10, 2017, 08:21:48 PM
Its funny, I was loading boulders easily weighing over a ton and likely closer to 3,000 lbs for an hour and no worries.

Dare to push on a cedar tree and Whamo...a CARREP

Another broken loader cylinder!
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on September 10, 2017, 08:24:38 PM
I think the cylinder rods must be sintered iron. Otherwise, why are the welds not penetrating?

Oh well, nice thing about a project this big, is that there is always something else to do...Back to earth moving
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on September 10, 2017, 08:27:03 PM
Those two work so well together!

Chief can dig a pretty big hole in a short space of time for sure
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on September 10, 2017, 08:29:57 PM
But this little gizmo started leaking again. I must have a bac O-ring, so I'll replace that and be back in business in no time
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on September 10, 2017, 08:31:06 PM
No other leaks anywhere on the machine. I tell you, this is a great piece of hardware!
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on September 10, 2017, 08:33:29 PM
In a fairly short time, I moved a lot of dirt. the excavation down to the "Shelf" is going rapidly
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on September 10, 2017, 08:36:08 PM
And on the levee side that thing is widening quickly. I also cleaned up the field below it to make room for the coming flood
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on September 10, 2017, 08:39:45 PM
Some settling has occurred, but very minor IMO
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on September 10, 2017, 08:41:53 PM
Chief is fast approaching some fresh paint. I have it all figured out except for this bad door, and rocker panel (Can I call that a rocker panel?)
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on September 10, 2017, 08:43:21 PM
Everything seems AOK and only needs cleaning and sanding to be ready
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on September 10, 2017, 08:46:21 PM
Everything seems AOK and only needs cleaning and sanding to be ready

Look at these huge "Builder-Bob's" I found in that hillside. Couldn't be better for stacking into another wall
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: stlaser on September 10, 2017, 10:13:57 PM
Its funny, I was loading boulders easily weighing over a ton and likely closer to 3,000 lbs for an hour and no worries.

Dare to push on a cedar tree and Whamo...a CARREP

Another broken loader cylinder!

Don, two ideas. First bevel the end of that rod back a 1/4" on the diameter. When welding triple pass it. First weld will be the root weld filling that bevel back in. Second or first rather get you a temp stick (welders supply stores sell them in varying temps) mark both the rod and the collar then pre heat them before starting the root weld.

Edit: after further review it also appears from the crap pic you may have porosity in your weld....
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on September 11, 2017, 06:48:24 PM
Its funny, I was loading boulders easily weighing over a ton and likely closer to 3,000 lbs for an hour and no worries.

Dare to push on a cedar tree and Whamo...a CARREP

Another broken loader cylinder!

Don, two ideas. First bevel the end of that rod back a 1/4" on the diameter. When welding triple pass it. First weld will be the root weld filling that bevel back in. Second or first rather get you a temp stick (welders supply stores sell them in varying temps) mark both the rod and the collar then pre heat them before starting the root weld.

Edit: after further review it also appears from the crap pic you may have porosity in your weld....
I thought it may be that that rod material needed to be preheated prior to welding
I concur, I should grind a good bevel first before filling with weld.

Are the rods Iron by any chance? Or some sort of super hard cast steel? I mean there is NO bending them back, they just pop like a freezer hardened hershey bar that my wife is tryin' to hold onto and one of the pre-rangers wants very badly!
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on September 19, 2017, 08:40:34 PM
I repaired the broken cylinder

THis time I cut a deep bevel into the steel rod, about 30% of its depth, then made three very hot passes around the exterior in a skip weld fashion. It looks strong to me, but time will tell. It goes on tomorrow
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on September 19, 2017, 08:58:26 PM
And, I finished the service trailer all except for the canvas cover which is coming at a later point so I can get this puppy into service now
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: stlaser on September 19, 2017, 10:15:49 PM
I repaired the broken cylinder

THis time I cut a deep bevel into the steel rod, about 30% of its depth, then made three very hot passes around the exterior in a skip weld fashion. It looks strong to me, but time will tell. It goes on tomorrow

The shaft is hardened steel & then chrome plated. Hardened steel doesn't like being bent in a press as you found out.....
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Bear9350 on September 20, 2017, 07:46:51 AM
Hard steel also does not weld very well.  There is some porosity there but the weld isn't what failed.  It doesn't look like there was any penetration into the shaft.  Hopefully the beveled edge will give it a little more area to hold onto and the extra hot welds will get some penetration into the shaft.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on September 20, 2017, 08:46:35 AM
I think this weld is many times stronger than anything that was on there to begin with.

And the shaft was welded to the pin by someone at some point...
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: TexasRedNeck on September 20, 2017, 08:54:07 AM
I guess we'll find out this weekend


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Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: stlaser on September 20, 2017, 09:30:02 AM
I agree with bear that hardened steel welds different. It needs more heat essentially, thus the pre heat idea. However, the fact Don triple passed it does essentially the same thing. It's tru on his first pass the starting portion wasn't preheated. By the time he was coming around his first pass if he welded hot the unit was essentially preheated. The subsequent final two passes were then laid in while the unit was toasty. It should hold, however former ARMEE piluts (particularly this one  :knucklehead:) have been known to break bowling balls with rubber ducks so time will tell.

I'm also positive that all the local welders near Don are living a much more peaceful and carefree life due to the fact he welds all his own stuff..... :popcorn:
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on September 20, 2017, 08:12:20 PM
Yep, time will indeed tell.

The rewelded cylinder is now bolted back in place and the other broken one is back at my home shop for repair also
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on September 20, 2017, 08:15:59 PM
For the time being, I am running two different cylinders, but I will return with the repaired black one and have a matched set again
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on September 20, 2017, 08:17:38 PM
I worked on the newest pile of dirt, this time from the opposite side. I am continuing to stretch our and widen the levee portion of the pond
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on September 20, 2017, 08:20:55 PM
The dirt is all tracked in which really packs that clay/dirt solid.

I am about to do a property wide bush hogging. It sure needs it.

This year I allowed the natural grass to reach maturity so it would provide cover for the animals, and go to seed to scatter on the wind to replant the bare spots. It does this quite well.

The short spots are where that new JD 2720 with its 72" deck made short work of the weeds and grass
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on September 20, 2017, 08:23:29 PM
The new trailer was put to work right away, topping up the water tanks to their 660 gallon capacity

Its parked in the pasture near the saw mill for now
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Bigdave_185 on September 20, 2017, 11:05:01 PM
How is the solar water heating system working for now? Has it cut back on the Gas usage on your trailers water heater? Are your catch funerals working?


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Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on September 21, 2017, 10:48:29 AM
How is the solar water heating system working for now? Has it cut back on the Gas usage on your trailers water heater? Are your catch funerals working?


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The output temp of those solar collectors is surprising. Mind you, only a small bit of them are exposed to sunlight because of the summer heat, but with only the small patch exposed the output is 10-20 degrees more than the ambient temp.

I'd expect to see ambient + 50 degrees of better when I unshroud the collectors.

Heated water for now is on a different system. Gas useage is minimal. I installed that tank last winter and it has only now hit 50% capacity. I'll fill it when the weather breaks to the cold and this year run the furnace to keep the place 50 degrees when i am not there.
Seeing the potential of this free solar heat, I am definitely not finished developing that technology all over the farm. I want to add a hot water coil to the roof of the camper to heat the underbelly area of the camper to cut down on gas consumption, and maybe even provide for hot water for showering.
That project is just an idea at this point, I have to complete the water collection tank and solar panel mechanical room first....Then the well house, finish the gabion wall, connect the rooms, build a bunch of other stuff, wreck the barn.

Oh and I had a cool idea the other day. Looking at the property, you can't tell by the photos very well, as they tend to push the view toward the two dimensional, but there is a deep valley which narrows at its exit between my camper area and the far field. If someone were to clear out the trees and build a dam across that, it would produce a cool lake. Then that far pasture would be a grassy hill overlooking all of that. That would be one perfect spot for a little country church. A white one with a steeple. A place off the grid to come to worship, or come to be married, or to meet with your creator. I wonder if he gave me that vision or its just me??
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on October 01, 2017, 10:26:37 PM
Another building trip in the bag.
On the collectors, with half of the thing exposed to afternoon sun the outside temp was 73F and its output temperature was 113F. That's a cool +40F delta. THat ought to keep some water in a liquid state during the cold pushed which are fast approaching!
Should have photo'd that, but forgot to.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on October 01, 2017, 10:30:31 PM
Picked up this new set of earphone noise deadeners. The old sets have succumb to tractor tires and immovable objects. I used these awhile on Sarge and I have to say they are great. They advertise a 34 Db noise reduction. Not sure what sarge puts out, but it was pretty quiet. Normal conversation is 55-60 Db so Sarge is probably in the near 100 range.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on October 01, 2017, 10:34:56 PM
I moved more dirt over to the growing retaining wall which is well over twenty feet tall on the low side. Things were going pretty well for a couple hours, then for some reason I drove into a pile of dirt and started to lift, and the bucket wouldn't lift anything. Before it was killin' it, just muscling through everything. Now" NADA!

Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on October 01, 2017, 10:35:39 PM
First thing was to check and add hydraulic fluid. I had misplaced the key I locked the tank up with, so out came the bolt cutters

I added a gallon to the tank which seemed fine and rechecked. It still wasn't working. I guess I have some bigger issues going on
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on October 01, 2017, 10:37:20 PM
These coffin sized boulders which were going to be moved by Sarge a couple hundred meters to a site where I am building a retaining wall are now the tractor's problem to deal with
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on October 01, 2017, 10:39:40 PM
I was going to fix that leak on Chief, but since Sarge gave it up, there was no need to make the pile of dirt any larger when I currently no longer have a means of moving it. Moving that with the John deere is laughable. Heck, I'd be a month os sundays moving all that dirt!
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on October 01, 2017, 10:42:22 PM
This big heavy thing is a hydraulic bucket coupler.

I was considering just removing it and attaching the bucket directly to the stick to have fewer moving parts to eventually wear out.

But I just ran across a 20" ditching bucket that would be ideal to dig that electrical and water pipe trench from the well up to the cabin area, so I guess I'll just clean it up and paint it along with the rest of Chief
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on October 01, 2017, 10:44:31 PM
I still can't believe my 66HP tractor could lift those boulders, but it did. The largest one, it would only loft maybe an inch so I slowly bounced if off terra-firma all the way to the wall site
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on October 01, 2017, 10:46:11 PM
Oh yes,

CARREP: WHile maneuvering with one of those stones and trying to tip the tractor over I heard a "Crunch."

I later discovered what made the sound
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on October 01, 2017, 10:48:47 PM
Using the big tractor to move and position boulders, and the smaller "Cute" one to haul gravel, the wall came up bit by bit and became very stable. I'm thinking that ought to do some retaining of the hillside!
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on October 01, 2017, 10:50:06 PM
Then a couple yards of Kentucky's finest #57 to finish off the job
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on October 01, 2017, 10:52:52 PM
^^^^Obviously loads of work still to perform there as I go around the corner and hand stack the rest of it bit by skin crackin bit

Have a wee bit of a problem with mice (Get it: "Wee bit" as in mice are tiny?? ;-)

I've had a few, so in preparation for the cold when they come home to roost, I have left some gifts for them!
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Bigdave_185 on October 01, 2017, 11:04:51 PM
So no idea what is wrong with the bull dozer


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Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: TexasRedNeck on October 01, 2017, 11:50:51 PM
early bird gets the worm....but the second mouse gets the cheese....

Plan on bar-b-qing the mice?
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on October 02, 2017, 03:48:38 PM
So no idea what is wrong with the bull dozer


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I've got Richard and Larry of Southeastern on it

They are great people!

Richard is going to figure out how to set up a pressure gage which I will then attach to the SCV (Secondary Control Valve) and do a pressure check

From there we will know if it's a SCV problem or the hydraulic pump itself.

Either way, it will get fixed and Sarge will get back in service soon...I need it to work!
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Bigdave_185 on October 02, 2017, 04:18:27 PM
Not being familiar with those.  What drives the trac? Is there a hydrologic system that turns the drive wheels? Some of the large systems use electric motors,  I just don't picture a transmission and drive shaft with that much weight


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Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Nate on October 03, 2017, 09:00:04 AM
Try one of these for your mice problems

https://www.automatictrap.com/shop/a24/
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Bear9350 on October 03, 2017, 09:30:57 AM
A simple trap that we set-up at the cabin and other places that we don't check daily.  Fill a 5 gallon bucket or similar half full of water.  push a stick or rod through an empty soda can.  Put a couple strips of peanut butter down the can.  Place the can over the bucket so that the can is in the middle of the bucket.  The idea is that the mouse will crawl out to the can on the rod.  When it crawls up on the can to get the bait, the can rotates and the mouse drops into the bucket and drowns in the water.  The can should still have bait on it and continue to work.  Depending on where you place the bucket you may need to build a ramp up to the bucket.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on October 03, 2017, 09:42:33 AM
Not being familiar with those.  What drives the trac? Is there a hydrologic system that turns the drive wheels? Some of the large systems use electric motors,  I just don't picture a transmission and drive shaft with that much weight


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Its an ingenious system wrought from the minds of engineers
The engine turns several hydraulic pumps, one of which is called a charge pump. This charge pump supplies pressure for a torque converter and a control valve system.
Now this torque converter powered by the hydraulic pump and driven by the engine flywheel drives a transmission which has forward/reverse and high and low range.
That transmission connects to a right and a left transmission which are bolted to each track's final drive. Those transmissions also have a high and a low. Essentially you have three different speed ranges along with forward and reverse. That is how the thing is steered. Since thery are independent of each other, one track can be in forward low and the other in reverse high or middle or low. The different track speeds account for different turning radius(s) which allows me to tear up all sorts of virgin field grass!

Now the hydraulic system which is acting up is not associated with this drive system at all. It has a much larger pump which provides pressure and flow for a couple of 5" cylinders and a couple of 4" cylinders (Read: Lotza fluid needed)
Verstande?
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on October 03, 2017, 09:44:00 AM
A simple trap that we set-up at the cabin and other places that we don't check daily.  Fill a 5 gallon bucket or similar half full of water.  push a stick or rod through an empty soda can.  Put a couple strips of peanut butter down the can.  Place the can over the bucket so that the can is in the middle of the bucket.  The idea is that the mouse will crawl out to the can on the rod.  When it crawls up on the can to get the bait, the can rotates and the mouse drops into the bucket and drowns in the water.  The can should still have bait on it and continue to work.  Depending on where you place the bucket you may need to build a ramp up to the bucket.
That's clever!
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Bigdave_185 on October 03, 2017, 11:00:06 AM
Got it


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Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Bob/OlallaWa on October 03, 2017, 12:18:14 PM

A simple trap that we set-up at the cabin and other places that we don't check daily.  Fill a 5 gallon bucket or similar half full of water.  push a stick or rod through an empty soda can.  Put a couple strips of peanut butter down the can.  Place the can over the bucket so that the can is in the middle of the bucket.  The idea is that the mouse will crawl out to the can on the rod.  When it crawls up on the can to get the bait, the can rotates and the mouse drops into the bucket and drowns in the water.  The can should still have bait on it and continue to work.  Depending on where you place the bucket you may need to build a ramp up to the bucket.
That's clever!


The bucket trap is included in the hunting camp supply list when the wall tents are used.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Sammconn on October 03, 2017, 12:22:54 PM
A simple trap that we set-up at the cabin and other places that we don't check daily.  Fill a 5 gallon bucket or similar half full of water.  push a stick or rod through an empty soda can.  Put a couple strips of peanut butter down the can.  Place the can over the bucket so that the can is in the middle of the bucket.  The idea is that the mouse will crawl out to the can on the rod.  When it crawls up on the can to get the bait, the can rotates and the mouse drops into the bucket and drowns in the water.  The can should still have bait on it and continue to work.  Depending on where you place the bucket you may need to build a ramp up to the bucket.
That's clever!
Might even be genius!

Now sort ole Sarge out so you can get back at dirt movin'.
Sounds like the plan is in place.
And really, only a shovel in the CARREP, that's pretty good.
I'm not counting Sarge getting ornery as part of it, as stuff happens, you didn't break it, well CARRRP worthy as of yet.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on October 07, 2017, 09:41:41 PM
The preliminary test was completed to test the hydraulic pressure of the hydraulic pump.

The test indicates the system is operating at only 700 psi, well below the 2150 psi that would be ideal.

Now the smart guys can chew on the test results and come up with what's next
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on October 07, 2017, 09:45:20 PM
Well the past few days has been festooned with one CARREP after another.

It started about as soon as i showed up. I flipped on the air compressor to find the air hissing and escaping from a broken fitting. The thing just snapped in half with not so much as my even touching it.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on October 07, 2017, 09:48:58 PM
CARREP #2: I fixed that then went off to do a little bush hogging. I have another 30+ acres to get done before the rains come in.

I was backing over small cedar trees with the cutter raised, and one of the blades let loose. I guess having it hit so many rocks in its short life must have cracked the hardened steel. This time it did not come flying through the side like the last time.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on October 07, 2017, 09:50:23 PM
The thing has been working well, although has been taking a beating
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on October 07, 2017, 09:52:57 PM
With the old John Deere cutter laying where I parked it, I thought I could just pull the blades off of it and bolt them onto the Land Pride...But the stump jumper discs were of different diameters
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on October 07, 2017, 09:55:31 PM
So, off to the nearest tractor store, a Massey dealership who actually had some Land Pride parts and the exact blades I needed! $122 later and I was back in business
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on October 07, 2017, 09:57:18 PM
Just for reference, I photoed the blade part number. Here is the remaining blade that is not in bad shape at all
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on October 07, 2017, 09:59:14 PM
And I put the cutter to the test:
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on October 07, 2017, 10:02:09 PM
The other objective to this trip, other than testing Sarge, was to get the frame into place for the outhouse. It is long past due to get that thing delivered and placed into service.

First I cemented four posts into the ground a few feet from the hole the boys dug
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on October 07, 2017, 10:03:42 PM
Then I got busy with the sawmill and cut the framing timbers out of some dried Cedar logs I harvested some time ago
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on October 07, 2017, 10:05:58 PM
The outhouse will sit in one corner of a small deck. I also cut up some true dimension 1 1/4" planks for the decking
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on October 07, 2017, 10:07:09 PM
Here is all the framing pieces, well, almost all of them
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on October 07, 2017, 10:09:09 PM
I cut one post then leveled the remaining three using that post as a reference
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on October 07, 2017, 10:11:15 PM
Then I countersunk holes for some long 1/2" lag bolts which secured the long beans to the piers
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on October 07, 2017, 10:12:48 PM
I canted the left side (Facing the outhouse front door) to best utilize the slope of the terrain and add some architectural interest to the decking to come

Funny, but if you drop anything, guess where it is going?
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: stlaser on October 07, 2017, 10:12:58 PM
 :likebutton:
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: TexasRedNeck on October 07, 2017, 10:13:53 PM
Don, one thing I've learned is to keep spare parts on hand.  If I break blades, I order two sets so that I always have extra on hand.  When I use the spares, I order more so that I always have some.

Looking good. Sorry to hear about Sarge.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on October 07, 2017, 10:15:00 PM
Don, one thing I've learned is to keep spare parts on hand.  If I break blades, I order two sets so that I always have extra on hand.  When I use the spares, I order more so that I always have some.

Looking good. Sorry to hear about Sarge.
Ah, it's just part of the process...
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on October 07, 2017, 10:19:27 PM
Cranking those lag screws in was a workout! But I needed a good "Lose your breath" workout and this thing delivered several times over!

I can't believe I had just purchased a new 20 volt dewalt impact gun. Would have been perfect for this job. But it would have probably ended up in the hole!

So the base frame is in. THe outhouse 63" X 51" will rest on the rectangle. THe rest will be deck space along with a short ramp
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on October 07, 2017, 10:23:15 PM
CARREP #3: One can never, ever, ever, bushhog anything without something falling apart. Man, my helicopter vibrated a lot as well, darned glad it was more reliable. But then again I didn't smash the rotor blades into rocks (Trees, yes) every five minutes.

Can you see what happened?
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on October 07, 2017, 10:25:19 PM
LIke always with only one side holding on, it was cutting just fine!

That was around 1730, and with the weather coming in, I parked it and called it a good days work
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on October 07, 2017, 10:26:51 PM
And, they wanted to go home
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: stlaser on October 07, 2017, 10:37:36 PM
Bush hogs are like off road race trucks, you need to do a bolt check every couple hours of use.....
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on October 07, 2017, 10:46:12 PM
Bush hogs are like off road race trucks, you need to do a bolt check every couple hours of use.....
The pins and clips keep falling out. No loose bolts.

Here is my proposed fix: Obviously new pins to replace the lost ones, but this time, no clips, but actual bolts with nylon lock nuts to retain them
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: stlaser on October 07, 2017, 10:49:41 PM
What kinda clips you been using?
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on October 08, 2017, 02:58:42 PM
What kinda clips you been using?
All kinds Shawn.

The black spring circular clips last the longest. I have the standard punch in clothes line lookin clips of all sizes. I have used cadmium plated and black oxide, I have used American, Mexican, and Chinaman clips, but none last.

I hear Farmers use the bolts and lock nuts with great success.

That stepped pin that fell out of the bush hog tabs costs $30, and that's the second one that has fallen out.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: stlaser on October 08, 2017, 04:18:59 PM
Copy, bummer
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: TexasRedNeck on October 08, 2017, 07:35:54 PM
yeah, maybe a visual inspection before use would be a good idea....jus sayin.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Nate on October 08, 2017, 09:19:06 PM
But warrant occifer dont do pre fights..........stickpoke......
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on October 08, 2017, 09:52:11 PM
yeah, maybe a visual inspection before use would be a good idea....jus sayin.
I do...These things fall apart during use. The excessive vibration and a number of sticks working through the voids are the likely culprits.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Mrwoody on October 08, 2017, 10:04:46 PM
30.00 would buy a lot of safety wire or crimp to fit mini cables
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: stlaser on October 08, 2017, 10:13:28 PM
Safety! Whoa hold up there now....... I don't think Big D will be using anything with the word safety in it! :popcorn:
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on October 08, 2017, 10:55:00 PM
Safety! Whoa hold up there now....... I don't think Big D will be using anything with the word safety in it! :popcorn:
Naw, no safety needed here

That stuff can kill (from boredom!)
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on October 13, 2017, 05:45:06 PM
I can't believe it has taken this long to get this out-house project closed out. Last night I finally started installing the roof. I'm using the same 40 year metal that went up on the pavilion and will eventually adorn everything down there.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: KensAuto on October 14, 2017, 10:33:25 AM
Very nice .

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Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Bigdave_185 on October 14, 2017, 10:51:44 AM
Nice enough to poop in


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Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: stlaser on October 14, 2017, 11:11:22 AM
Nice enough to poop in


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Well that's a little crappy...... :tongue:
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: EL TATE on October 16, 2017, 11:02:53 AM
Hey, it's a big job, but he'll feel much lighter when it's done :shocked:
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on October 16, 2017, 07:20:57 PM
Almost have it done. Having to do bits and pieces here and there.

First up I finished building the roof metal
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on October 16, 2017, 07:22:41 PM
Including poking the hole in it for the vent stack. A rubberized boot will fit over the pipe then flush to the roof. I notched it where the rib on the roof metal runs and plan to seal it with caulk or rubber something or another
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on October 16, 2017, 07:24:38 PM
Finished up the last vent for the rear. It will be outside temperature, at least that is the current plan. I may cover that hole up and build up a passive solar heater like I did for the water storage shed, dunno. At this time I just want it done and fully installed.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on October 16, 2017, 07:26:43 PM
I then removed the plywood throne topper and discarded it in favor for a piece of cheap countertop. Once I get it all fitted and cut all the holes into it, I'll coat the bottom with fiberglass resin or something like it to completely seal it against what may be a relatively moist atmosphere on the other side...
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Tommy13 on October 17, 2017, 11:05:01 AM
Don, it looks like that Scag mower has been completely destroyed by dust and dirt. 
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on October 17, 2017, 06:13:23 PM
Don, it looks like that Scag mower has been completely destroyed by dust and dirt. 
It's lost to be sure. No recovery for that one. Must be time for a bigger mower!

But what can I get? This one has a big block engine makin' 32HP which is a chunk of change for a mower.

I'm not buyin' anything green, that's for sure!
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: KensAuto on October 18, 2017, 12:24:54 AM
What can you get? 2 cows and 4 goats might be best....and a horse so that you can still claim horsepower!

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Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Bear9350 on October 18, 2017, 08:25:01 AM
Throw a couple sheep into the mix as well I think.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: stlaser on October 18, 2017, 08:34:33 AM
Throw a couple sheep into the mix as well I think.

Yes, we need big D shearing sheep and spinning wool. Then he can knit us all RM beanies as he sits on his front porch of the casa overlooking his spread in retirement...... :tongue:
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: BobbyB on October 18, 2017, 11:54:32 AM
Couple horses on that land wouldn't be bad.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: EL TATE on October 18, 2017, 12:50:40 PM
4-6 goats would keep the grounds neatly trimmed 3 seasons.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: TexasRedNeck on October 18, 2017, 01:29:59 PM
And I bet Tate has a great Cabrito  recipe for the 4th season....


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Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Sammconn on October 18, 2017, 01:43:46 PM
Where did the rogue cattle go?
They would help some too...
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: EL TATE on October 18, 2017, 02:58:09 PM
And I bet Tate has a great Cabrito  recipe for the 4th season....


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This one looks good. I'll bet la caja china works great on goat too.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on October 18, 2017, 05:22:32 PM
Where did the rogue cattle go?
They would help some too...
They're gone!
I can hear them from time to time, but no new cow pies in my working AO!

As for critters, I think without my living there full time would be problematic. I want chickens first up, then a pasture for a horse and a couple cows. Will try and get some geese in on the pond when I finally get that done, and of course have at least one of them stocked with protein (eatin') fisheses.
I'll build a martin house this winter and nail that sucker to a tree stalk I saved just for that. Idea there is to cut down on the bugs. Between those and Chickens you can get pretty bug free!
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: TexasRedNeck on October 18, 2017, 06:30:14 PM
Tate that?s a great set up!

I?m with you Don. Until I?m at my place full time the coyotes are a real problem


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Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: wyorunner on October 18, 2017, 07:12:30 PM
Don, it seems you are down there enough you could already have chickens, turkeys, ducks, geese and guineas. They're pretty self sufficient animals. Especially if you set up a "auto feeder", essentially something that can hold 100lbs of feed! They'll be good between the couple days to a week your not down there.

If you do this make sure their all hens, so you don't come back to a broody bird sitting on a clutch of eggs.


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Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Tommy13 on October 19, 2017, 09:26:33 AM
Don, would you give the Scag your endorsement?  I'll be in the market for a new machine soon.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: TexasRedNeck on October 19, 2017, 12:03:04 PM
I?m a big fan of the husqvarna higher end models as long as you get the Kawasaki motors.


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Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on October 21, 2017, 10:58:22 AM
Don, would you give the Scag your endorsement?  I'll be in the market for a new machine soon.
Totally!
It's the best I have every owned. I can't break the thing...
Have tried for a couple years now to find an excuse to buy a newer zero turn so I could cart the Skagg down farmside, but the thing, a Cheetal, just keeps going. I have even towed with it!
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on October 21, 2017, 10:59:50 AM
Don, it seems you are down there enough you could already have chickens, turkeys, ducks, geese and guineas. They're pretty self sufficient animals. Especially if you set up a "auto feeder", essentially something that can hold 100lbs of feed! They'll be good between the couple days to a week your not down there.

If you do this make sure their all hens, so you don't come back to a broody bird sitting on a clutch of eggs.


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I would almost go there, but last night a group of Coyotes ran right through there and very close to the camper. Scout was barkin' up a storm and I just wanted to get back to sleep...
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: wyorunner on October 21, 2017, 11:06:27 AM
Don, it seems you are down there enough you could already have chickens, turkeys, ducks, geese and guineas. They're pretty self sufficient animals. Especially if you set up a "auto feeder", essentially something that can hold 100lbs of feed! They'll be good between the couple days to a week your not down there.

If you do this make sure their all hens, so you don't come back to a broody bird sitting on a clutch of eggs.


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I would almost go there, but last night a group of Coyotes ran right through there and very close to the camper. Scout was barkin' up a storm and I just wanted to get back to sleep...

Familiar! We have coyotes in significant numbers around where we live, drives the dogs nuts which in turn drives me nuts because they don't stop barking! Haveta go outside shoo the dog into the kennel then go back to bed.... usually only to be woken up again within an hour.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on October 21, 2017, 11:35:26 AM
Well, first up I repaired the bush hog which had fallen apart and become partially disconnected. Dunno, but for an industrial unit, I think I am finding its limits. It's looking a bit banged up after making all that gravel from the native chunks of limestone
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on October 21, 2017, 11:38:10 AM
So, I replaced almost all the various clips and keepers with gool old 1/4" and 5/16" bolts and nylon locking nuts. And guess what?

It worked!

Yep nothing fell apart after bush hogging 20-30 acres!

YIPPEE!
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on October 21, 2017, 11:40:07 AM
The property always looks best this time of year. With a fresh cut and most of the weeds in their dying stage, the look will last for some time
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on October 21, 2017, 11:43:19 AM
But I did have more carnage

Darn!!!!!!!!!!!

For no apparent reason, the grapple stopped working!

I was yanking some branches off some locust trees, and when I tried to open the thing it would only move a couple inches. Now, the switch is working because you can hear the sound of the pump laboring, and the lines jerk from being slammed with pressure, but the jaw will not open nor close

Grrrrr....
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on October 21, 2017, 11:44:24 AM
...And I made the next few tests to Sarge, and that thing is still all buggered up and not working!
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on October 21, 2017, 11:45:15 AM
But the truck is still running fine! :likebutton:
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on October 21, 2017, 11:47:02 AM
The shed is holding up well. Ready for another winter. But that fancy epoxy paint that nothing can affect has failed miserably. The north facing wall (Little sunlight) has faded completely and chalked
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on October 21, 2017, 11:49:41 AM
...Always looking to upgrade efficiency of the operation, I added this water jug filled with soapy water for use in the saw mill operation. I need to add some window cleaner as an antifreeze.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: TexasRedNeck on October 21, 2017, 01:04:25 PM
Don I'm a big fan of Sherwin Williams Duration paint laid on with a sprayer.  Get a HVLP and just pop the top off the little opening in the 5 gal pail and drop the suction hose in.  Paint away!  That stuff is really tough.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Dawg25385 on October 21, 2017, 05:01:05 PM
Don I'm a big fan of Sherwin Williams Duration paint laid on with a sprayer.  Get a HVLP and just pop the top off the little opening in the 5 gal pail and drop the suction hose in.  Paint away!  That stuff is really tough.
That?s what our house and shop are covered with. I concur with Tex


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Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on October 21, 2017, 08:03:33 PM
Don I'm a big fan of Sherwin Williams Duration paint laid on with a sprayer.  Get a HVLP and just pop the top off the little opening in the 5 gal pail and drop the suction hose in.  Paint away!  That stuff is really tough.
I just re-read my post...
I was referring to the paint on the front door. No, the paint on the rest of the thing is like the day they sprayed it. Good to go for probably 10 years

I concur about the SW good stuff. Have used it myself.

No with a HVLP mind you, but with a roller, a brush and the normal pressure sprayer made for this kind of painting.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on October 30, 2017, 10:42:08 PM
Last night the temp dipped down to 22F, cold enough to do damage to pipes. Luckily the camper is mostly PEX and everything I am doing now is PEX so I made it OK. But today I was taking no chances, so i drove down there and turned on the furnace. It is set at 42F which should keep everything above freezing and not eat all of my precious LP gas up.

This little pipe, however will be a freeze problem:
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on October 30, 2017, 10:44:17 PM
I just invested in some foam pipe insulation and made several wraps with that. I have an average of three thicknesses of the foam insulation covering the pipe. I ran out of reflective tape, but I plan to cover it completely and see if that can keep the water in liquid form through the winter
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on October 30, 2017, 10:46:29 PM
Then I went after the building housing the water tanks.

First I looked for obvious air leaks or openings. It has stayed pretty much intact and is fairly well sealed. But the doors were not fitting properly, so I adjusted them and added some foam insulation to seal them a bit better
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on October 30, 2017, 10:47:45 PM
I unshrouded the solar collectors and they immediately started pumping heat.

Now, it was an overcast day and windy, but look at the temp differential after just a half hour or so:
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on October 30, 2017, 10:50:20 PM
^^^Cloudy day folks, and that's free heat

Then I inspected the collectors and found the lexan panels were all loose and some of the foam had decomposed. OK, so I'll need to scrape and apply some different foam product, but for now I screwed the panels in place which will increase their efficiency a bit I would think.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on October 30, 2017, 10:51:47 PM
The tractors all started, so all batteries are looking good to go into winter operations where I will be using the grid heater a bunch more than in summer.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on October 30, 2017, 10:54:22 PM
CARREP. Apparently the bush hogging killed a tire. I just started to move this tractor and the tire came off the bead!

But with some fiddling, I got it resealed and reinflated

This is a great example of one of the laws of work which accurately states:

To do any work, one must first have to work on something just to be able to work.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on October 30, 2017, 10:55:21 PM
THis tire has taken a beating. Look at this chunk out of the sidewall:
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on October 30, 2017, 10:56:21 PM
I still have to finish this gable end. Hope to get it done PDQ, along with mounting the outhouse over its hole
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on October 30, 2017, 10:57:37 PM
In spite of exposure to the elements, things are holding up fairly well
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on October 30, 2017, 11:00:37 PM
And I fixed the big tractor!

Turned out while bush hogging which I have learned over the years (decades) is about as destructive as the 24th Infantry Division during Desert Storm. I damaged the tractor.
That's not news, it's expected
Some stick dogged into the hydraulic lines and opened a quick release connector. Now it appeared to be connected, but was actually disconnected. I pushed it back together and full hydraulic function returned!
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on October 30, 2017, 11:01:48 PM
This thing has been eating itself through millions of weeds, stalks of grass, branches, small critters and even ran over and bush hogged a car leaf spring assembly!
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on October 30, 2017, 11:02:52 PM
So, I'm back in business...Back to the salt mine and hoping to get some things done, but not this week. This Friday we marry off one of the daughters!
One down, two to go!
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on November 11, 2017, 08:50:53 AM
Following Some durability testing of my tools yesterday, sadly I must report that sthil chainsaws are not rated to be driven over by tractors
Neither are log splitter mauls!
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on November 11, 2017, 08:52:46 AM
I can also report that right front tractor tires are not designed to hold air for very long
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on November 11, 2017, 08:54:19 AM
But I can report the untimely death of a nice 6 point buck
Taken bu a Navee SWC guy with a British .303
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: cudakidd53 on November 11, 2017, 06:39:40 PM
Following Some durability testing of my tools yesterday, sadly I must report that sthil chainsaws are not rated to be driven over by tractors
Neither are log splitter mauls!

Coming soon to a theater near you: Kentucky Chainsaw Massacrer - Staring Don Harward
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Sammconn on November 11, 2017, 09:28:13 PM
But I can report the untimely death of a nice 6 point buck
Taken bu a Navee SWC guy with a British .303
Pics or .... You know the rules boss!

And I have a soft spot for that rifle.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Bigdave_185 on November 12, 2017, 12:16:36 AM
You kidding me!! You ran over a chainsaw?  Who leaves a saw out where it either gets lost or forgotten?   


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Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: BobbyB on November 12, 2017, 09:42:36 AM
I love the SMLE 303
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on November 12, 2017, 10:20:53 PM
But I can report the untimely death of a nice 6 point buck
Taken bu a Navee SWC guy with a British .303
Pics or .... You know the rules boss!

And I have a soft spot for that rifle.

Pics tomorrow...Broke my camera as well...Had to take pics with my phone
Tough weekend
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: rpar86 on November 12, 2017, 11:48:19 PM
But I can report the untimely death of a nice 6 point buck
Taken bu a Navee SWC guy with a British .303
Pics or .... You know the rules boss!

And I have a soft spot for that rifle.

Pics tomorrow...Broke my camera as well...Had to take pics with my phone
Tough weekend
Did you break it, or forget to put the SD card in again? ;)
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: EL TATE on November 13, 2017, 01:15:20 PM
Or park the tractor on it?? :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: rpar86 on November 13, 2017, 02:15:07 PM
Or park the tractor on it?? :rolleyes:

He's gonna fire us west coast guys...
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Bigdave_185 on November 13, 2017, 10:45:36 PM
Still amazed wrecked a bright orange saw


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Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Sammconn on November 13, 2017, 11:01:10 PM
Still amazed wrecked a bright orange saw


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This!
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: dave945 on November 14, 2017, 07:39:15 AM
I have to wonder if all his problems would be resolved if he only operated his equipment at night, all blacked out, wearing NVGs. We could probably throw in a little random small arms fire to keep him :knucklehead: alert.  Of course, we might all have to climb on the back of the tractor and ride around with him so he could get the full effect though.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: kampfitt on November 14, 2017, 09:27:03 AM
 :likebutton:
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Bigdave_185 on November 14, 2017, 02:26:33 PM
Story time,

My grandfather was much so my mentor in many things in my life, from working with my hands, hard work, so on...

When I was about 13 years old I tackled the idea of wanting to build a shed and my widowed mother and grandfather said sure we can aid in this.   

One of the tools grandpa brought out for me to use was a hand held wood plane. Beautiful wood handle polished and machined accents.  Well each night I cleaned up my cords, hammers, nails and so on.   The one night I left that plane out it rained and rusted it to Holley hell after the storm was done and the sun out I returned to my task of shed building to find that it was trashed!  Grandpa to the day he died would point out that plane in my garage and cringe at my lack of care for tools and still my lack of someone else?s tools.   

I also left a shovel to close to the bin fire at the farm and one side of that shovel is charred black and he had my purchase him a brand new shovel and he got the new one, two years after he has passed I still have that shovel from when I was a punk ass teen.  It hangs in my garage as a reminder to take of my stuff,

I can?t imagine the beating I would have taken for leaving a saw out let alone trashing it with the mower! 


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Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on November 14, 2017, 08:59:46 PM
Or park the tractor on it?? :rolleyes:
Something like that
Canon EOS

Holy Crap...It works!
I recharged the battery, cleaned the mud off of it, picked away the broken plastic and darned if the thing didn't turn on and capture a picture!
Now, having dropped off my Stihl saw at the small engine shop, they all came up to take a look at it. I told them I was having a hard time keeping the chain on it!
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: stlaser on November 14, 2017, 09:24:51 PM
I figured you told them you were using it as a pry bar......
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Atkinsmatt on November 15, 2017, 05:49:23 AM
Or a chock block
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: EL TATE on November 15, 2017, 10:14:56 AM
high lift jack, chain driven
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on November 18, 2017, 07:39:50 PM
I pulled those swivel fittings off of the bucket quick change cylinder and manifold. I still had a bit of a leak, so I'm tired of playing with it. I'll have new lines made and new fittings ordered and solve this dilemma once and for all
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on November 18, 2017, 07:41:13 PM
Chief has been leaking some fluid, albeit a bit at a time, but checking it out, I'd say I am down 10-15 gallons. Here's some mixed with nasty pond water
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on November 18, 2017, 07:42:06 PM
Other than that 20 minute fix, the machine is running great. I'm really happy with it.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on November 18, 2017, 07:44:35 PM
Here's the area that I recently cleared around the original pond. I imagine it was once a perfect little farm pond, but has obviously filled with decaying plant matter over the decades. I plan to make it a place of beauty once again. Soon as I get these new lines/fittings, I'll finish mucking the thing out
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on November 18, 2017, 07:45:36 PM
Still a lot of work to do in the pond and in the area immediately around it
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on November 18, 2017, 07:46:36 PM
One of two new piles of trees and debris:
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on November 18, 2017, 07:47:36 PM
The damp winter weather has set in, but amazingly, the road work I did mid summer is holding up and the normal deep ruts are not forming
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on November 18, 2017, 07:48:27 PM
Scout approves, he is viewing the pics on the computer screen
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: TexasRedNeck on November 19, 2017, 07:09:15 AM
What?s the story on getting gravel for the road?


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Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Bigdave_185 on November 19, 2017, 01:41:29 PM
What?s the story on getting gravel for the road?


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Also never addressed the issue with the bull dozer.  Is it still pushing half power


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Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on November 19, 2017, 06:06:50 PM
What?s the story on getting gravel for the road?


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I finished spreading the gravel out that I had.

It's now too late to have any new gravel hauled in. Once the road gets wet, it cannot support heavy trucks. It does OK with pickups, especially those with big mud tires, but little else. So, the next opportunity will be when the thing freezes, then another wet spell in spring, then summer...Summer is best
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on November 19, 2017, 06:16:34 PM
What?s the story on getting gravel for the road?


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Also never addressed the issue with the bull dozer.  Is it still pushing half power


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Sarge is still not able to raise the loader more than 3/4's height.
Its pretty complicated. The troubleshooting process requires a flow meter a bunch of plugs, hand pumps, made up lines and so forth.
If it is the whole system which affected, then that would suggest a pump or a primary pressure valve.

I can't tell if the roll back circuit is functioning normally or not, I mean how could I find out when the thing will not raise a decent load?

So its really difficult to really determine exactly what is actually going on. Now if it is a specific circuit, such as only the lift circuit, then the problem could be with either the secondary control valve, or it could be a cylinder with an internal O-ring failure. It could also be the poppet valve for that circuit.

A service call is going to be hundreds, maybe over a grand. To ship the machine to the shop would cost me $1,500 both ways, then $120 an hour + parts. The troubleshooting alone will be one to two thousand. Then the repair costs...Well you get the idea.

So I am trying to get the best idea about what might have happened. I'm thinking of just replacing the hydraulic pump and rebuilding the primary control valve. If that fixes it, I'm golden. If not, I just blew a couple thousand and all I have is a tractor that doesn't work with a couple new parts.

It's a tough call, especially around Christmas with a wedding, a 50th birthday, annual taxes, and who knows what else...

Bottom line is, I can't afford to move forward at this time...
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on November 23, 2017, 12:23:08 PM
I practiced the first axiom of work which states: One must first work to be able to work.

For review, the others:
2. Work begat work
3. Just because you're done working, is no reason to stop working
4. Just as work creates work, not working also creates work
5. Work can be created, but it cannot be destroyed
6. If one begins a project, it will create more work/projects
7. Work transcends death (# somebody else's mess)
8. Even the act of dying (While working or not) creates work
9. Work was the first thing created (It apparently created itself)
10.Work is never done, if one thinks so, he has not examined the issue closely enough
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on November 23, 2017, 12:24:41 PM
I had to fix the excavator prior to using it to dig

It got new hydraulic lines/fittings
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on November 23, 2017, 12:26:53 PM
Then I pushed and dug a bunch more scrub trees out, cleaning up another corner of the farm
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on November 23, 2017, 12:31:42 PM
Then I got an hour in mucking out the old pond. I pulled this gray muck that was at least six feet thick everywhere. I might add that that stuff was very dangerous. It looks like marshy ground, but it can support almost no weight at all. One step on it and you are waist deep or better immediately. I felt it best to pull all of it out of the hole and start anew.

I suspect this muck is pretty rich as a nutrient, so I piled it up to drain and dry, then I'll spread it all over and plant fresh field grass on top
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on November 23, 2017, 12:32:55 PM
Another satisfying day in the bag...Scout approves and was ready to get warmed back up in C-Max
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: JR on November 23, 2017, 10:48:12 PM
Finally got caught up, missed the last 6 pages!

Looks like the tracts on Chief are wearing a gilly suit.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: stlaser on November 23, 2017, 11:42:11 PM
Probably doesn?t freeze down that hard at your hide. Up in NE IN we had to drive the tracked vehicles up on 2x12?s during the winter so they wouldn?t freeze down in place.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on November 24, 2017, 01:06:52 AM
Probably doesn?t freeze down that hard at your hide. Up in NE IN we had to drive the tracked vehicles up on 2x12?s during the winter so they wouldn?t freeze down in place.
It got down to -26F two winters ago. Last winter it wasn't below freezing all that much. I don't get it, no consistency, just pot luck I guess
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on November 29, 2017, 09:15:10 PM
Just picked up another new Stihl MS311 saw. Should be back in business soon cutting up those pesky trees
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: rpar86 on December 01, 2017, 12:57:20 AM
Maybe attach one of those orange ATV flags to this one? ;)
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on December 01, 2017, 09:18:16 AM
Going to mount one of these to it:

http://shop.industrialemart.com/index.php?route=product/category&path=59_61&_vsrefdom=ppcgoogle&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_term=%2Bbeacon%20%2Brotating%20light&utm_campaign=products&gclid=Cj0KCQiAmITRBRCSARIsAEOZmr4MB8zOLNYsLxTH9eE2OIpqWMe55UkCMW71YobirWuc1LkCMsFkH38aAmXlEALw_wcB
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: JR on December 01, 2017, 11:32:37 AM
Maybe attach one of those orange ATV flags to this one? ;)

 :likebutton:
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: rpar86 on December 01, 2017, 11:44:07 AM
Going to mount one of these to it:

http://shop.industrialemart.com/index.php?route=product/category&path=59_61&_vsrefdom=ppcgoogle&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_term=%2Bbeacon%20%2Brotating%20light&utm_campaign=products&gclid=Cj0KCQiAmITRBRCSARIsAEOZmr4MB8zOLNYsLxTH9eE2OIpqWMe55UkCMW71YobirWuc1LkCMsFkH38aAmXlEALw_wcB

Won't that require a power source? So now you've got a big 12v battery attached to the thing... then you'll end up setting the saw down in a soft patch and the weight of the battery will just suck it down into the mud and you'll lose another saw. On the bright side, someone a couple hundred years from now while excavating the farm will dig up said saw and it will be quite the conversation piece as to why there is a beacon attached to the thing....  :knucklehead:
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Nate on December 01, 2017, 12:08:10 PM
Going to mount one of these to it:

http://shop.industrialemart.com/index.php?route=product/category&path=59_61&_vsrefdom=ppcgoogle&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_term=%2Bbeacon%20%2Brotating%20light&utm_campaign=products&gclid=Cj0KCQiAmITRBRCSARIsAEOZmr4MB8zOLNYsLxTH9eE2OIpqWMe55UkCMW71YobirWuc1LkCMsFkH38aAmXlEALw_wcB

just go old school don and use some 550 cord and secure it to your body so you wont loose it....kind of like what we do for privates when they loose things.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: wyorunner on December 01, 2017, 12:44:20 PM
Going to mount one of these to it:

http://shop.industrialemart.com/index.php?route=product/category&path=59_61&_vsrefdom=ppcgoogle&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_term=%2Bbeacon%20%2Brotating%20light&utm_campaign=products&gclid=Cj0KCQiAmITRBRCSARIsAEOZmr4MB8zOLNYsLxTH9eE2OIpqWMe55UkCMW71YobirWuc1LkCMsFkH38aAmXlEALw_wcB

just go old school don and use some 550 cord and secure it to your body so you wont loose it....kind of like what we do for privates when they loose things.


Two votes from our house for this option!
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Atkinsmatt on December 01, 2017, 12:59:17 PM
The pilot assist cord.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Nate on December 01, 2017, 03:56:06 PM
The pilot assist cord.

good one matt   :likebutton: :likebutton: :likebutton: :likebutton: :likebutton: :likebutton:
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: TexasRedNeck on December 01, 2017, 07:58:46 PM
Maybe a chainsaw holster on the tractor with an ignition interrupt switch. If the saw is not in it the tractor won?t run


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Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: JR on December 01, 2017, 08:39:51 PM
You mean a DEAD MAN SWITCH!!!
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Bigdave_185 on December 01, 2017, 11:19:36 PM
Maybe a chainsaw holster on the tractor with an ignition interrupt switch. If the saw is not in it the tractor won?t run


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We could add that to the tac track thread, maybe get an oil change going, soon it will have a Cummins swap and light bars and extra fuel tanks, spare tire rack, shovel and high lift jack, pop top topper add some dust and we can have a..... oh wait we already have square tire dodge


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Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: rpar86 on December 02, 2017, 11:58:12 AM
Maybe a chainsaw holster on the tractor with an ignition interrupt switch. If the saw is not in it the tractor won?t run


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That's too practical!
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on December 02, 2017, 08:39:05 PM
Is everyone done?

Should I parse out another page or two for the "Helpful" suggestions  :facepalm:

OK, back at it. Two more days of reconfiguring nature down farmside.

First, check out the passive solar heaters. Can you believe the efficiency of these things? Outside air temp (in the sun, actual static temp was mid 50's. And the sensor located at the output of the heaters shows 100.6F Almost a forty degree delta there folks!

When I opened up the water tank storage shed doors, I was greeted by heat! As in it was actually hot in there. The high angle summer sun has some effect, however not all that much. The low angle winter sun just pushes photons into those black painted aluminum tubes. So far this thing is a stunning success. I will be using more of these things in my upcoming construction
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on December 02, 2017, 08:41:15 PM
OK, well the awning has completely failed. I guess you could call it a CAREP although it has been a long time in the making
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on December 02, 2017, 08:43:30 PM
I will be adding something a bit more of a permanent nature, although still easily moved should this camper be replaced by the one I really want.

First up, off with the old in preparation for the new deck/roof thing
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Bigdave_185 on December 02, 2017, 08:44:09 PM
Is everyone done?

Should I parse out another page or two for the "Helpful" suggestions  :facepalm:

OK, back at it. Two more days of reconfiguring nature down farmside.

First, check out the passive solar heaters. Can you believe the efficiency of these things? Outside air temp (in the sun, actual static temp was mid 50's. And the sensor located at the output of the heaters shows 100.6F Almost a forty degree delta there folks!

When I opened up the water tank storage shed doors, I was greeted by heat! As in it was actually hot in there. The high angle summer sun has some effect, however not all that much. The low angle winter sun just pushes photons into those black painted aluminum tubes. So far this thing is a stunning success. I will be using more of these things in my upcoming construction
Not fully remembering the build of this. Could you use the same idea on the roof of the shed? Would that work as well to gen heat?


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Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on December 02, 2017, 08:46:34 PM
I am building the thing simply by leveling in concrete precast piers which hold 4X4s. Later on I will use a mobile home anchor thing to put some hold between it and the ground
 
Building this way will allow me to get something roofed in quickly. I started Friday and planned to depart Saturday afternoon after the framing was complete.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on December 02, 2017, 08:50:42 PM
Is everyone done?

Should I parse out another page or two for the "Helpful" suggestions  :facepalm:

OK, back at it. Two more days of reconfiguring nature down farmside.

First, check out the passive solar heaters. Can you believe the efficiency of these things? Outside air temp (in the sun, actual static temp was mid 50's. And the sensor located at the output of the heaters shows 100.6F Almost a forty degree delta there folks!

When I opened up the water tank storage shed doors, I was greeted by heat! As in it was actually hot in there. The high angle summer sun has some effect, however not all that much. The low angle winter sun just pushes photons into those black painted aluminum tubes. So far this thing is a stunning success. I will be using more of these things in my upcoming construction
Not fully remembering the build of this. Could you use the same idea on the roof of the shed? Would that work as well to gen heat?


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I'm going to add it to the walls of the shed. I will soon build the engineering room which contains the 1500 gal tank which collects rain water from the roof. I plan to go up a second story which will cut into the roof and create a space which will become a bathroom. Then further down the side, I will take another section of roof out and build a shed dormer with an attached deck which will be about 15 feet above the ground.

On those flat wall surfaces, I will attach some more of these solar heater units, including one dedicated to making hot water, and warming the floor near the bath and bed.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on December 02, 2017, 08:51:48 PM
This is about how far I got Friday evening. It took a considerable amount of time to pick up the lumber, then drive down.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on December 02, 2017, 08:53:38 PM
Yes the uprights are not plumb. But the deck is square and that's all I was shooting for at this point in the build.

That finished the day
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on December 02, 2017, 08:55:48 PM
Inside, I hooked up a cheapo Blue Ray disc player and stacked up a slew of new movies. Normally after working all day, I'll grab a nice hot shower, then eat dinner while watching a movie. When done, it's lights out and a good night's sleep
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on December 02, 2017, 08:58:14 PM
The sled dog stayed out all night. Hard to get that thing to come inside when the temps dip. The next morning was frosty which makes for great working weather. The dog's water froze during the night
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on December 02, 2017, 08:59:50 PM
Next up, floor joists

That crooked post is growing on me ;-))
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on December 02, 2017, 09:03:16 PM
Next up some bracing and the whateveryoucallem boards that the rafters set on.

I made this a very shallow slope. First I wanted a minimum of eight feet beneath the roof, and secondly to see how a shallow pitch works with rain and snow. I will likely use a much shallower pitch on the dormers that are upcoming.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on December 02, 2017, 09:05:12 PM
And now for some rafter action. No hurricane ties yet...forgot to buy them so I'll add them later on
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on December 02, 2017, 09:08:44 PM
That's a 8 X 14 deck BTW, and will have a generous overhanging metal roof, same as the pavilion standing next to it

Next up are the roof nailers. I used 2 X 4 X 16 to give me that added coverage. I laid the nailers in such a way as to provide 6" more clearance on the west side, the direction all our weather comes from
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on December 02, 2017, 09:11:56 PM
And I made it!

Finished just as the sun's sphere touched the horizon. I was packed up and motoring out before EECT

Anyone know what that is?

Or EENT?

or EEAT?

No nails in this except for the special nails used in the joist hangers. HD screws were used throughout. 3.5" for most of the framing and 3" for the 2 X 4 nailers
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: stlaser on December 02, 2017, 09:47:15 PM
 :likebutton:

Those precast blocks are perfect for this sort of thing.....
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: dave945 on December 02, 2017, 10:15:18 PM
That?s looking good. I had to look up the abbreviations, I had an idea what they were, but not exactly.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Bigdave_185 on December 02, 2017, 11:04:28 PM
What happened to the saw mill that was going to save thousands of dollars on lumber?  Buying wood at HD?


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Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: stlaser on December 02, 2017, 11:13:22 PM
 :popcorn:

What happened to the saw mill that was going to save thousands of dollars on lumber?  Buying wood at HD?


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Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: JR on December 03, 2017, 01:19:13 AM
I have been using these on my build. I hate those nails!

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Simpson-Strong-Tie-10-1-1-2-in-External-Hex-Flange-Hex-Head-Structural-Connector-Screw-100-Pack-SD10112R100/202071154?cm_mmc=Shopping%7cTHD%7cG%7c0%7cG-BASE-PLA-D22-BuildingMaterials%7c&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIhZjk65jt1wIVQrjACh3DKAsCEAQYASABEgLrQ_D_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds&dclid=COq2_vqY7dcCFUXCwAodFIABgA
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: TexasRedNeck on December 03, 2017, 07:39:15 AM
https://www.lowes.com/pd/Bostitch-Framing-Nailer/3348476

Best $50 I ever spent.  Makes installing those simpson nails a piece of cake.  Much cheaper than the simpson screws (although those do have their place)

I love those torx drive screws and will never use phillips deck screws again.

Question Don:  Why do you need hurricane straps on that roof when the base is held down by gravity?  By the time the roof wants to fly off it will be taking the whole base with it....

Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on December 03, 2017, 09:51:15 AM
What happened to the saw mill that was going to save thousands of dollars on lumber?  Buying wood at HD?


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Hey, you're banned, didn't you see that on the other thread where you were giving Jared some very bad advice about poking me? So you shouldn't even be commenting here. I tell ya, people don't even respect being banned around here. This one is gettin' just like that Shawn, and that's not good!

But since you managed to get through somehow...Yea, I was conflicted about powering up the mill to cut the timbers. One thing I have found it that it takes a pretty good sized Cedar to make a big beam. The trunks are very convoluted and that makes finding a clear/strong path in the length you want a bit of a challenge.
I did want to snatch a couple big oak logs out of the barn to slice and dice up to make the actual decking surface from...We'll see
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on December 03, 2017, 09:56:58 AM
https://www.lowes.com/pd/Bostitch-Framing-Nailer/3348476

Best $50 I ever spent.  Makes installing those simpson nails a piece of cake.  Much cheaper than the simpson screws (although those do have their place)

I love those torx drive screws and will never use phillips deck screws again.

Question Don:  Why do you need hurricane straps on that roof when the base is held down by gravity?  By the time the roof wants to fly off it will be taking the whole base with it....


Good question!

Here's my reasoning. The only thing that will get any wind exposure is the roof. I expect it to move some, although I am planning on some better trussing to tighten it up some more. With the constant wind that place sees, I was thinking more along the lines of constant flexing tearing at the two cross set screws I have holding the rafter in place. I thought a hurricane strap might limit that flexing.
Additionally, there will be some weight on the deck surface in time and I will have it "Screwed" into the ground with mobile home anchors, so in all reality, it should be fairly solidly anchored at some point.

For now, I had a great couple days of good weather I wanted to capitalize on to get it framed. Goal being to get something to screw down a roof to before the wet sets in.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: cudakidd53 on December 04, 2017, 06:45:52 AM
Don, are you going to engineer an angled overhang for the trailer side of the roof?  Would help the wind go over instead of under the tin and create slight down force.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on December 04, 2017, 10:43:23 AM
Don, are you going to engineer an angled overhang for the trailer side of the roof?  Would help the wind go over instead of under the tin and create slight down force.
Hadn't thought of it Mikey

What are you thinkin' bout?
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on December 04, 2017, 10:44:44 AM
Actually, I was going to hang a section of something like HD tar paper down from the deck roof onto the camper roof
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: cudakidd53 on December 04, 2017, 12:03:59 PM
Just a 1-2 foot section angled down from the high spot over hanging over the camper with about a 1-2 inch gap to keep it off the rubber Rv roof allowing air to flow over it.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on December 04, 2017, 02:53:23 PM
Just a 1-2 foot section angled down from the high spot over hanging over the camper with about a 1-2 inch gap to keep it off the rubber Rv roof allowing air to flow over it.
And why the air gap?

Abrasion prevention?
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: cudakidd53 on December 04, 2017, 03:11:50 PM
Just a 1-2 foot section angled down from the high spot over hanging over the camper with about a 1-2 inch gap to keep it off the rubber Rv roof allowing air to flow over it.
And why the air gap?

Abrasion prevention?

exactly, with the two sitting independent and free of each other, the rocking might wear into the roof of the trailer.  Ever been in one when it's really blowing?  In 2012 during the hurricane that hit the east coast so bad, I was in Michigan killing a day due to storms inside mine.  All 4 corners leveled, wheels chocked, and locked and the thing was rocking 2+ inches side to side!  On the outside, it must of looked like Jannett Reno and Hildabeast were going at it inside!  If you wanted, you could put some roofing starter strip or valley seal to bridge that gap without causing any potential damage.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: TexasRedNeck on December 04, 2017, 10:53:40 PM
If tha trailer's a rockin don't bother knockin....
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on December 12, 2017, 07:07:41 PM
I glued up a bunch of 2 X 10's to 2 X 4's creating a 13" wide beam from which I'll create some arches for the new deck
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on December 12, 2017, 07:13:50 PM
I noticed some wobble in the spindly 4X4s I'm using so it needs more bracing to be sure. I had already placed in 2X4X30 angle bracing which I will be removing and replacing with a wider brace which is nearly four feet long.

Since the brace will be attached much lower on the post, I didn't want it getting in the way, so I decided to build this arched thing. I was also hoping to add a wee bit of architectural detail to try and lure the female farm owner down there every once in awhile.

This is what I was thinking about:
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on December 12, 2017, 07:17:44 PM
After allowing the glue to set up overnight, I cut the 45's on each side, then marked off 2" segments to transfer the measurements accurately. The scale of the drawing is 2" per block to make that part easy.

After marking off the arch I came up with something that looked rather "Fat," and not at all slender yet strong.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on December 12, 2017, 07:19:51 PM
So I redrew it and attached a marker to a long string and used that to trace out the arches, coming up with a much better design
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on December 12, 2017, 07:21:50 PM
I cut up the rest of the blanks I had, but still have three curing so a bit more cutting tomorrow to be done with these. They sanded up fairly nicely so I'll go with it as is
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on December 12, 2017, 07:26:23 PM
Believe it or not, I still had a couple things left to do on the outhouse so I knocked almost all of them out. I cut the business hole out of the laminate counter top so things would have a place to go, and the vent could be attached. Then the underside got two coats of primer sealer. It will be ready to reinstall tomorrow. THis will finish the privy build and I get it loaded and hauled down there and mounted on that foundation I built early in the fall.

It's all about just completing the open projects I have all over...SquareD, outhouse, deck, pavilion roof thing, rock wall, pond,... and ...
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on December 12, 2017, 07:28:39 PM
I scored a fantastic deal on a recon Dewalt 20 volt scroll saw. What a great tool this thing is. I paid $114 for it and man, its worth every cent. I have been adding tools to my 20 volt collection which I'll talk about over in the tool section.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on December 16, 2017, 09:04:53 PM
Drilled holes into one end of the arch through which I'll insert some structural 5/16" screws
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on December 16, 2017, 09:06:15 PM
Brief interlude as I finish the privy

The seat was cut out, then laid onto a bed of silicone.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on December 16, 2017, 09:09:17 PM
Yea, its a bit dusty, but it will get cleaned up after we bolt it down on the foundation over the boy's summer digging project.

The vent pile was sealed up with silicone as was all the seams around the box and floor. Then the outside was capped and pumped full of poly foam.

No pics, but obviously I pulled the excess foam off
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on December 16, 2017, 09:10:07 PM
The door and frame had swollen so I trimmed those up and now have a good fit
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on December 16, 2017, 09:12:10 PM
Lastly, I sealed up all the gaps up in the roof and screwed down the vent insect screen. At this point the thing is buttoned up pretty well and should be nearly bug proof.

It is now completely done and ready to get loaded, and hauled down to the farm
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on December 16, 2017, 09:14:07 PM
Down farmside, I boxed in the posts, readying the structure for the 5/4" deck board

Here is the stack of 16 footers ready to be screwed down to give us a surface to stand on
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on December 16, 2017, 09:15:02 PM
I started in front of the door with a short piece spanning between the posts
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on December 16, 2017, 09:16:22 PM
Adding each board and coaxing it into position
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on December 16, 2017, 09:18:37 PM
Yep, came up two boards short!

Next up the short step with a 6 3/4" rise in front of the door
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on December 16, 2017, 09:19:50 PM
Next up, my trusty assistant readies himself to install the arches
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on December 16, 2017, 09:21:25 PM
I have 6" X 5/16" structural screws with a T-40 head which that Dewalt nut driver loves to hammer away at. I recessed the holes 1" or so so that nothing shows
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on December 16, 2017, 09:22:25 PM
And here the first two go up and are firmly attached
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Nate on December 16, 2017, 09:22:49 PM
Thats lookin really good.

What happened to sarge.........did you put a blanket on him?
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on December 16, 2017, 09:23:11 PM
Makes for a clean installation
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on December 16, 2017, 09:24:02 PM
Thats lookin really good.

What happened to sarge.........did you put a blanket on him?
Covered with a tarp Nate. Pulling apart stuff I don't want exposed to the weather. Hope to have it up soon
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on December 16, 2017, 09:25:35 PM
Here's a corner with the temp bracing, then the arches.

I like the curves, how they give the thing a Lord of the Rings elvish look
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on December 16, 2017, 09:27:29 PM
The arches make a stunning difference in my view. I'm glad I took the time to build them
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on December 16, 2017, 09:28:45 PM
Nice sunset, holding just above freezing, time to roll up shop and call it a day
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: cudakidd53 on December 16, 2017, 09:30:33 PM
Really looking nice there Don! The Mrs. should really like it too  :likebutton:
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: JR on December 16, 2017, 10:18:38 PM
Looks great Don. Good to see everyone doing a little on it.

Is the ceiling in the outhouse the only unsealed wood?
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on December 17, 2017, 02:02:05 PM
Looks great Don. Good to see everyone doing a little on it.

Is the ceiling in the outhouse the only unsealed wood?
It is painted OSB, and has a soffit seal. Other than that it has no other prep
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: TexasRedNeck on December 18, 2017, 09:13:12 PM
Looking good Don.  Quite the infrastructure you are building there...
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on December 19, 2017, 10:40:09 AM
Looking good Don.  Quite the infrastructure you are building there...
That's exactly what it is Tex, as you know so very well.

Way I see it, no matter what I plan for I will have to support more than what I have imagined.

Kids/their husbands, their babies. Being that they are young and not yet established, where do you think they are coming?

So lots of water, lots of power, lots of food/ability to create.

So as I bring this little project to a close, I am already sketching out a shed to support the shed and my continued expansion. Thinking about a 12 X 16 to house one of the tractors, get all the paint and lubricants out of the main shed, which now serves as an overflow sleeping area for guests.

The outhouse is going down there PDQ, really, as soon as I get enough strong men to help me lift that thing onto the trailer for transport. That will support those basic needs for a host of peeps for quite awhile so I feel good about having that. The deck really just repaired and expanded on the camper which supports the building effort. But aside from that getting the water/power room built is job 1 as that should answer my need for emergency water to about 50%. Tying in the well, finishes that along with the two filled 6000 gallon storage tanks.

Following that, I think I'll throw up a single enclosed raised bed like you have, then the fun begins.

I want to cut into the side of the hill in a circular fashion. In that newly created pad, raise a frequency 3, 24 foot geodesic dome which will be a green house. It will also have a fish tank inside where the droppings are extracted and used as fertilizer. A wall of peas will feed the koi/carp and I'd hope to find some level of synergy. (Man I'm gettin all hippie here)

Of course outside I'll have a 60mm cannon that one of my buddies builds on the sly for my amusement!
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on December 19, 2017, 11:03:33 AM
Oh and hit another milestone today

I paid off my tractor!

I know, making payments...not good

But sometimes I get to buy the equipment I like and finance it at 0% interest, even after negotiating it to the price I am comfortable with. It may be hard to believe, but that tractor is so fitted out with extras, it went out the door priced in the mid $40's! Yea, that was an expensive one!

When I can buy like that, I tend to keep my money stashed everywhere in a host of bank accounts, shoes, under rocks, in safes and probably some lost in places I forgot (Am I a distant cousin to Norm??) It makes sense to me to just use John Deere's money and not mine, although I do not like owing anyone money.

I own everything down there free of debt. I own the land, the buildings, the excavator, Sarge, the tractor, the tools, the weeds, the opossum, the stickers, the poison ivy, cedars, all of it! Well, actually I owe on the little tractor...was 0% as well!

Almost free at last, almost free at last, My God in heaven, almost free at last!
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: cruizng on December 19, 2017, 02:38:39 PM
Congrats Don! It is nice to be free of debt... or at least they tell me! Nice looking spread. A lot of sweat equity.  :beercheers:
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Nate on December 19, 2017, 02:51:31 PM
that's awesome.

Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on December 21, 2017, 09:38:39 PM
Just getting back in

Pushed the ball down the field some more

Racking up in the "Gettin' things finished" column

Pics tomorrow
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: TexasRedNeck on December 21, 2017, 10:10:16 PM
I hate debt too Don, but using someone else's money is a smart thing and keeps credit rating topped off.  Funny how credit works.  If you never use it , it atrophies..


Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on December 21, 2017, 10:26:33 PM
I hate debt too Don, but using someone else's money is a smart thing and keeps credit rating topped off.  Funny how credit works.  If you never use it , it atrophies..



Yea, I don't like what i now know about credit

I got to looking at my credit rating. I remember seeing a 750 some time back, but today the number is no where near that. When I review the reasons, the report states, amongst other things, that I do not have enough revolving credit (I have none at all.) Apparently they want to see me have six forms of revolving credit to improve this category.

Now that seems counterintuitive to me, but it's a bankers game you see. They want people constantly feeding their kitty. They do not want financially independent people who simply use their own money.
I could have borrowed 25K to buy the excavator, but instead, I just used my own cash. Could have borrowed against something to buy Sarge or the saw mill or a host of things, but I just wrote checks.

Money is (In modern society), power along with information. When the money remains in the pockets of the people, that degree of freedom and power remains intact with the individual.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: TexasRedNeck on December 21, 2017, 10:33:23 PM
Yeah, the way I keep my credit rating up is use 2 credit cards to buy everything and pay them off each month and never pay interest.

One of the cards puts 2% of what I spend into my kids 529 fund so I put everything I can on it.  I tried to put my dually on it but the dealer didnt want to honor the deal I cut if I was going to use the credit card.

Charlie Mike, Sir.....
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: stlaser on December 21, 2017, 10:41:26 PM
Credit score system is a joke, a good banker will admit that to you even. I have a great credit score, don?t ask me why or how. I don?t do anything particular in fact it used to be 100 pts lower when I actually used credit all the time. I say get a good banker and make sure he knows who the customer is in that relationship.  :tongue:
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: OldKooT on December 21, 2017, 11:14:33 PM
Congrats Don... feels good doesn't it?

Debt free here 15+ years and enjoying it.



Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on December 22, 2017, 10:56:13 AM
So, had another great weather day down farmside
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on December 22, 2017, 10:56:54 AM
Hauled in the trim boards and the rest of the decking
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on December 22, 2017, 10:59:18 AM
So, pushing the project right along, I had the shotgun lovin pre-ranger hold the trim pieces up while I screwed them down. Then with these nice neoprene flat knee pads I scored, I set about screwing down seven sections of 40 year green metal roof metal
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on December 22, 2017, 11:01:46 AM
I used the tractor to keep everything supported, but had to dump about a gallon of old deer blood out beforehand...yuck!

Anyone notice that superior john deere paint on the hood turning all chalky? Quality stuff right there, right up there with the best that Chinamen are buildin' these days
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on December 22, 2017, 11:03:25 AM
Then just like that the roof was mostly done. I still have to add a spoiler to the camper side to break up the air foil aspect to the roof
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on December 22, 2017, 11:05:52 AM
Then I cut in the remaining deck boards and screwed down a temporary toe kick to the step at the door to the camper
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on December 22, 2017, 11:08:14 AM
Next I screwed the trim boards to either side of the pavillion in preparation to rain gutters which are forth coming ricky tick
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on December 22, 2017, 11:09:30 AM
That took me to sundown and a pretty productive day...
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on December 22, 2017, 11:11:30 AM
And then there's this:

Burn day coming up pdq. Plan is to remove a percentage of it and burn close by, then push remainder into basement and burn it there. Remove metal, take to scrap yard and donate money to some young men who are struggling, then clean the site up for what's next
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: KensAuto on December 22, 2017, 12:54:18 PM
Looks great!!

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Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: cj7ox on December 22, 2017, 12:55:32 PM
Looking good, Don! You've made a lot of progress.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on December 22, 2017, 01:03:21 PM
Looking good, Don! You've made a lot of progress.
Je vous remercie
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: TexasRedNeck on December 22, 2017, 04:48:40 PM
Looking good Chief.

Not that you asked for suggestions or need extra work but some matching curved braces on the pavilion there would tie it together nicely.


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Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on December 22, 2017, 05:51:01 PM
Looking good Chief.

Not that you asked for suggestions or need extra work but some matching curved braces on the pavilion there would tie it together nicely.


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Why yes they would.

I am doing that as well, you'd see it in a week give or take.

This time I have seven posts, so 14 arches, all matching and slightly different, as I will simply cut them from a 48" 2 X 12

Then some trim paint on the butter trim, then the gutters, then the end pieces and soffits to complete
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Jared Herzog on December 22, 2017, 06:24:55 PM
We have burned a couple houses down. We donate them to the fire department who do training while they burn the house down. Then the house is considered a donation for tax purposes.
If that is what you intend with the burn day post?
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on December 22, 2017, 07:50:58 PM
We have burned a couple houses down. We donate them to the fire department who do training while they burn the house down. Then the house is considered a donation for tax purposes.
If that is what you intend with the burn day post?
I had given a thought, but decided to do it myself. But maybe I should do that and then make a donation to the VFD for the service...
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: stlaser on December 22, 2017, 07:53:29 PM
Never hurts to have the local vfd on your side, they used to come to our door once a year for donations & we always have something.....
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Jared Herzog on December 22, 2017, 08:17:19 PM
We have great VFD guys and gals here. It helps to have them on site around here so they can chase off all the tree hugging liberals who see the smoke and want to complain loudly. 
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Bigdave_185 on December 22, 2017, 09:07:55 PM
Don are you going to apply some sort of environmentally safe finish to that wood you just put up?   I have heard of making your own linseed stain and oils but never dug much Further into the topic.

The outdoor stuff on the market now is good for about two rain storms and some light dog traffic in my experience


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Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on December 23, 2017, 01:01:57 PM
Don are you going to apply some sort of environmentally safe finish to that wood you just put up?   I have heard of making your own linseed stain and oils but never dug much Further into the topic.

The outdoor stuff on the market now is good for about two rain storms and some light dog traffic in my experience


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I already laid down my usual base coat of DDT. Will follow up with something caustic.

Actually over the DDT, I think I'll lather some paint onto the trim, a green perhaps to match the biggish water tanks, then apply some home made stain onto the cedar and pine.

I start with a base of mineral spirits, then add linseed oil, along with some pigment. Honey colored or oxford brown works well with this type of wood.

Also laying down the MS and Linseed then allowing to weather gray, then covering with  this wood preservative stuff, which I can't remember the name of just now, well use slave labor (My children) to paint that stuff on later on
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on December 23, 2017, 01:06:37 PM
But yea, tree hugger water based stuff is only good for other tree huggers. It does not actually work on anything, so I shy away from that stuff same as I do them!

Oh you'll love this. Being the CHRISTmas season right now, I am having a heck of a good time laying on the "Merry Christmas" and "God Bless yous" to all these marty milktoast seaweed suckin confused/fat/stupid children/people that look like adults out there. I do it early on to get the reaction. If I'm lucky and I get that coy little smile, then it's game on. Thank you man, and isn't it great celebrating Jesus's birthday? Gotta just love God!
I somehow enjoy stackin' those embers up on their heads!
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: JR on December 23, 2017, 01:42:32 PM
I am laying it on also. Weird out here but I get great reactions from it, mostly good!
Title: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Bigdave_185 on December 23, 2017, 04:33:41 PM
We don?t have that here to much.   In a work meeting my manager said merry Christmas than asked me after if they should have said that.    I told her if she celebrated Christmas than merry Christmas it IS!!


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Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Dawg25385 on December 26, 2017, 08:29:04 AM
Yeah, the way I keep my credit rating up is use 2 credit cards to buy everything and pay them off each month and never pay interest.

One of the cards puts 2% of what I spend into my kids 529 fund so I put everything I can on it.  I tried to put my dually on it but the dealer didnt want to honor the deal I cut if I was going to use the credit card.

Charlie Mike, Sir.....

We do the same thing. EVERYTHING goes on a credit card that can, and gets paid off monthly. We use the Alaska Airlines card, and as a result rarely pay for a flight (use points). And credit cards have better fraud protection than debit too.


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Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: KensAuto on December 26, 2017, 12:20:09 PM
Not to dot anymore, but...my hunting partner and his wife tried to buy a new bumper pull the other day. They wouldn't give him a loan even though they make about 100k between them...no history pay cash for everything. .the 350k house with perfect payment history didn't count. The trailer dealer told him to go buy a new truck first because it would be easier, then come back when the truck was paid off, to show good credit. Smh

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Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on January 01, 2018, 09:15:07 PM
Cold day spent down farmside today. Not Sam kind of cold, but nearing 0F with a bit of breeze is really cold for us. This global warming is about to freeze me to death

So plan for the day was to get the out-house loaded, transported, then mounted to the frame I built for it this past summer.

We used the truck's winch to get the thing loaded onto the snow covered trailer.

We really paid attention to strapping it down, cribbing and blocking. The result was an event free transport along the twisties to the off load site.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on January 01, 2018, 09:20:50 PM
Once there, it was pretty easily moved with the 4720, although the sloppy ground made the short move dicey at times
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on January 01, 2018, 09:25:44 PM
Darned hole has a foot of water in it and some minor cave in on the sides...Have to fill those spaces in ;-0
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on January 01, 2018, 09:27:18 PM
Almost lost it here, as in roll over of the thing which was strapped to the tractor!
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on January 01, 2018, 09:29:57 PM
But, very slowly, inch by inch...
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on January 01, 2018, 09:39:54 PM
And I had good help from two buddies from church who had spent the day there bow hunting (Saw seven, but with a bow, all were out of range)

Next, I'll throw in the joists, cover the deck with 3/4" plywood. Then cover that with roof felt down to the ground on all sides, backfill with dirt and put proper decking over that and finish with some railing, the mulch from the chipper and a couple shrubs and call that little thing a done deal.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on January 01, 2018, 09:42:01 PM
I anchored it with 5/16" X 8" timber-lock bolts, ten in total, so it isn't going anywhere soon!

End of a successful day! What a great feeling.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Dawg25385 on January 01, 2018, 10:58:45 PM
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Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: JR on January 01, 2018, 11:15:24 PM
Looks great. Should I ask how you planning to fill the holes in,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, :facepalm:
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: KensAuto on January 02, 2018, 12:06:54 AM
Nicest crapper in the tuck no doubt, almost as nice as that red hat you were wearing !


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Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on January 02, 2018, 10:22:48 PM
Looks great. Should I ask how you planning to fill the holes in,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, :facepalm:
Happens naturally, I hear...!
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on January 03, 2018, 08:22:31 PM
Neck, I cut about half of those arches you suggested today. These are just a tad larger to try and keep the appropriate scale. Hauling some down farmside in the morrow.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on January 03, 2018, 08:27:26 PM
OK, so tomorrow I'll put up those, build the steps to the deck, and start the shed project there called "12 square"

It will be a 12' X 12'

I get a 26 ton load of dense grade tomorrow, which I'll scrape and massage into a 13 X 13 level pad, then build the deck directly on the ground. Thinking about it, I decided late today not to go boring a bunch of holes and making the thing taxable and permanent. This way I can stick two paddles out of the windows and use it as a boat when this darned relentless cold abates and we resume the global warming which will melt the ice caps and give me ocean front property.

That's the whole deck surface and sub structure right there, along with a few bags of crete to help stabilize things

Linky to 12 Square project thread:

http://real-man-truckworks-and-survival.com/index.php?topic=3249.new#new
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on January 03, 2018, 10:06:09 PM
And, in the spirit of constantly adding capability and abilities to get things done, I picked up a new framer bels with suspenders

I'll throw in that knife/chisel that Kyle recommended, a Stanley 20 oz hammer, extra wide 30' tape measure, rafter square, level, knife, pencils and of course some sharp things to impale my fingers on.

Never heard of the brand, but with knowing the dogs will chew on it, I'll leave it outside a time or two, run it over with sarge, and forget that its under that pile of brush that is burning, who cares!
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: rpar86 on January 04, 2018, 02:37:27 AM
Uh oh... another ?square? thread...


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Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Bigdave_185 on January 04, 2018, 06:31:32 AM
Do you have a good chalk line?


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Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: TexasRedNeck on January 04, 2018, 08:02:26 AM
I got my chiselthingy that kyle recommended as well.  Pretty cool little tool.

Don  one suggestion from the cheap seats, if I may.  A good plumb bob has been indispensable for me in building my casita.  With bows and such in lumber the plumb bob helps me get stuff straight.  Especially working by myself where I can hang it from a nail and go  to the bottom of the wall and make adjustments and fasten while watching the bob.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Jared Herzog on January 04, 2018, 08:21:48 AM
In a pinch most chalk lines these days are built to act as a plumb bob. Not as good as an actual plumb bob but pretty accurate.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: TexasRedNeck on January 04, 2018, 08:35:09 AM
Jared, keep an eye out for a post in your oracle section.  I have some questions about doors in 2x6 walls.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: JR on January 05, 2018, 12:29:41 AM
So you are building an ARK now?? That will be a thread!!!
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on January 06, 2018, 12:26:56 PM
Thawing out, give me a bit and I'll post up the latest improvements

When I started yesterday it was +1F...Worked outside all day, into the night

Then drive home

Hot bath

Must have fallen asleep

Now its morning and I found three areas that aren't sore...

Off to a wrestling meet...I hear I'm working at it :-(((
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: TexasRedNeck on January 06, 2018, 01:13:20 PM
bet you could rig up a heated toilet seat for the mrs that runs on a 20v dewalt battery.....
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: cudakidd53 on January 06, 2018, 05:10:19 PM
^^^THIS^^^    :shocked:
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on January 06, 2018, 07:14:11 PM
I'm gonna spare Tex the obvious comment(s) and leave that one alone!

OK, movin on. I have no doubt spent the hardest work day of my life yesterday. I think I am still recoverin'

Wow, what a day. It was around 0F in the morning then again at night on the other end of a lot of stuff. I just stayed in it. Started the day with a bowl of cereal at, what 0630ish, then when it got light enough to do stuff I was in it to win it. That lasted until under protest, my body just shut down after dark sometime. The cold got to me along with the utter fatigue.

I think that for a man to work that hard in temps that low (Low for the Tuck) is a good thing. Yea, I hurt all over, but I did not give in to it. At one point my Frau called and told me to get indoors and stop working. I mumbled something about being a soldier, and she countered with something like I wasn't a soldier any longer, and I mentioned it is not something we do, it is what we are, as in present tense. We argued, she hung up on me and I went back at it!

So, the objective was to get the shed foundation in and the deck screwed down to it to create a square dance platform for the upcoming polka party I have planned for the third of NEVER!

I got that done.

But the project had to start with my putting in a level gravel base and starting up from that.

Remember how I have stated that the "Road" into my place is cursed? Well the tri-axle blew out his PTO shaft which killed gravel delivery I had set for Thursday in the AM.

Since that wasn't happening, I was off to the next most pressing project, which I felt were adding steps to the newly built deck
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on January 06, 2018, 07:21:10 PM
Oops, The Warrant Officer meant to say, repair the busted water lines. yep, that's it...water leaks

So I think I have found the limits of the effectiveness of this water containment structure. It has bees in the single digits, dipping well below zero for awhile now, and that has frozen up things I have never before seen frozen.

Those two big water tanks...330 gal ea...THose? Yep, frozen.

Pumps, lines, filter...Yep, frozen

Water availability to the camper: Zero point nothing!

So first up was to get some heat going in there and pull out some electrical "Heat cord" I purchases a long time ago.

I pulled the insulation wrap off the outside line, wrapped that sucker, then looped the cord all over things I didn't want to freeze on the inside
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on January 06, 2018, 07:23:14 PM
Heat works quite well, I discovered. THose tanks went from ice to some water in about four hours and the faucets inside the camper returned to a really cold version of normal
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on January 06, 2018, 07:25:02 PM
Shortly after thawing I discovered the water filter housing was severely cracked, so I had to bypass it completely
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on January 06, 2018, 07:29:27 PM
The PEX tubing works remarkably well, suffering no known cracks or leaks

I had to run every heater I had on site, and for that I fired up the 5.5KW gen which goes right through a tank of fuel. I exhausted that fuel around 0440 Friday morning, and around 0600, I was all frozen up again.

I am able to maintain the hot oil heater in the structure to prevent more damage, but without more electrons, I can kiss that outside supply line good bye.

I do have a plan to reroute the hot water heater exhaust (Propane powered) to a box I think I'll put together all around that line. It might just push this over the top...Who knows!
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on January 06, 2018, 07:33:15 PM
OK, back to the steps.

First you don't see them

And then you do!

Thee is a pretty big lip overhanging the step which will catch one's foot. It is there because I forgot to bring my scroll saw which I was going to use to make a "Cute" little curved cutout in the deck that the wife would like, but I care little to nothing about! ;-)
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on January 06, 2018, 07:34:03 PM
And for the meantime, everything is holding OK
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on January 06, 2018, 07:42:04 PM
Oh, and allow me to give CarHartt a plug for an excellent HD work jacket. I layered with a cotton T, Midweight hoodless Fleece sweatshirt, and that gem of a hooded CarHartt. I chased that with thick socks, flannel jams under some Army Multicam combat trousers and I was GTG for the duration.

Oh and my Elmer Fudd red n black plaid, fur lined "birth control head wear"

Ah, forgot me gloves. leather work gloves. My recipe: First coat your hands with that 3-way antibiotic cream, followed with bees wax and when your hands are the same consistency as the CV axle boot on a month old Prius of other kolean kar, shove em in those gloves and get to hammerin' on things.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on January 06, 2018, 07:45:34 PM
Remember your first axiom of work?

To be able to work, one must first work

So to be able to do the dirt (Ice??) work I made the tractor (The just paid off one!!!) go from summer mode to winter mode:
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on January 06, 2018, 07:49:57 PM
First up was to get the gravel delivered and put down

You're looking at a $1,000 bill right here, some 52 tons of stuff we call Dense-Grade.

Amazing stuff that will work like sand or any light gravel, but once you put the weight to it, as New Yorkers like to say, "Forget ah bout it." It's like the third ice age kind of solid, as in aint moving, as in "you really want to dig that out by hand, boy? What chew thinkin' about anyway?"
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on January 06, 2018, 07:52:56 PM
Then I had to rebuild that poorly thrown together rock wall (Ranger wall) the boys have labored on. That and add a bunch more "Bob-the-builders" to its height, bedding everything in with the third ice age stuff. Did I mention that was like, back breaking work?
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on January 06, 2018, 07:55:43 PM
Next came the grading in and building of the actual pad on which the shed will rest

Here's the spot, marked by the sled dog who had instructions to go find the location of the new shed and park her butt right in the equatorial center...She did!
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on January 06, 2018, 07:57:39 PM
Then the gravel games began
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on January 06, 2018, 08:00:37 PM
Go to the "12 Square Shed build for the detail located here:
 
http://real-man-truckworks-and-survival.com/index.php?topic=3249.msg68320#msg68320
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on January 06, 2018, 08:04:13 PM
But with a goal in mind of having a deck to stand on at day's end in mind, after a whole lot more work, I arrived here, almost square dance ready.

Actually I got all the sheets on, but my camera finger stopped operating due to being frozen in a hooked position accurately showing the outside dimension of a DeWalt 20 volt screw gun.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Nate on January 07, 2018, 11:31:45 AM
Just a question here, cause something dose not seem right or maybe im just jumping ahead.....?

Are you building that shed base flat on the ground with absolutely no barrier between the wood and ground (read quick wood rot), or are you going to put that thing up on some pier blocks?
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Bigdave_185 on January 07, 2018, 11:47:05 AM
I do believe I read it the same as you, he plans on leaving it in/on the ground. 


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Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: rpar86 on January 07, 2018, 11:51:52 AM
Maybe all the rock provides enough drainage...?


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Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Nate on January 07, 2018, 01:31:22 PM
Drainage i dont believe would be the problem, i believe the problem to be the fact that raw wood is in contact with the bare ground?
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: KensAuto on January 07, 2018, 01:32:32 PM
Come on guys, if bossman  was going to leave it on the ground so it might rot, he would've used pressure treated, right?  (Sarc) 

This post is just to prove that I'm not worthy of my job here.


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Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: stlaser on January 07, 2018, 04:09:44 PM
Come on guys, if bossman  was going to leave it on the ground so it might rot, he would've used pressure treated, right?  (Sarc) 

This post is just to prove that I'm not worthy of my job here.


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We didn?t need further proof Ken....... :tongue:

For the record, KY?s state flag is a blue tarp waving off the back of a pickup truck or trailer that isn?t required to have a license plate or working brake lights even. I don?t think some treated boards touching gravel is out of the norm......
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: JR on January 08, 2018, 01:35:06 AM
Think he said he was building as is to avoid the tax man. Now PT on gravel shouldn't be to bad and he is on a hill.

Now I know why I don't like cold and lots of snow. Fun to visit, not to live,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on January 08, 2018, 04:00:31 PM
Simmer down there little doggies!

The base is pressure treated lumber rated for direct ground contact

It is resting on a gravel base which is elevated from the surrounding ground

THe fill inside the voids, below the OSB is some distance below the actual plywood

THe roof system will have about a 10" overhang and I'll do something around the base along with rain gutters.

I've done this sort of construction before...It works fine for longevity. Termites are a greater threat than rot, believe me!

And me driving anything wheeled or tracked anywhere IVO any structure is a greater threat than termites...
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: stlaser on January 08, 2018, 04:09:59 PM
Only thing I might have done different for a portable structure would have been to use treated plywood for the floor. It's pretty pricey but tough and a solid floor at 3/4" thick. My current shed sitting on treated posts uses this same material.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: KensAuto on January 08, 2018, 10:32:18 PM
Oh I guess boss did use PT on the base. My bad.   Wink wink

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Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: JR on January 09, 2018, 12:07:42 AM
Only thing I might have done different for a portable structure would have been to use treated plywood for the floor. It's pretty pricey but tough and a solid floor at 3/4" thick. My current shed sitting on treated posts uses this same material.

I was thinking the same.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on January 09, 2018, 05:57:13 PM
Oh I guess boss did use PT on the base. My bad.   Wink wink

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Instigator!
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Bigdave_185 on January 09, 2018, 09:16:32 PM
If you put a front porch on the east side you could use more wood


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Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on January 16, 2018, 10:14:59 PM
Couple of things

The 12 X 12 shed project is coming together in my workshop at my home. When finished, it will be broken down, and reassembled on the foundation already created on site.

Secondly, I am completing purchase of my next piece of capital equipment, a Kubota SVL-75 Compact Track Loader.

I anticipate delivery in a week to 10 days.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: JR on January 17, 2018, 12:41:03 AM
Nice little machine there. That looks safe enough for the pre rangers to drive.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on January 17, 2018, 12:31:57 PM
Nice little machine there. That looks safe enough for the pre rangers to drive.
I will test that theory!

My goal for the Pre-Rangers by summers end is to have them able to operate that, the excavator, the tractors and Sarge if we still own it.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Bear9350 on January 17, 2018, 01:26:00 PM
How old are the boys.  By the age of 12 I was operating similar equipment with exception to the excavator.  I was probably closer to 18 before I got behind one of those.  More a factor of availability then anything though.  As long as they can reach all the pedals etc..  I would expect them to do just fine.

Big question is does the cost of operation go up or down as the boys take over operations (Who is going to cause more carnage)? 
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Bigdave_185 on January 17, 2018, 01:43:37 PM
I assume boys will have some inhibitions about what they do vs pops who is more of a hit it with a bigger hammer to make it fit kinda guy.


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Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Sammconn on January 17, 2018, 01:58:43 PM
I assume boys will have some inhibitions about what they do vs pops who is more of a hit it with a bigger hammer to make it fit kinda guy.


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THIS!
The prerangers should be gtg as stated above.
I was on backhoes by 12-13.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on January 17, 2018, 05:27:49 PM
The current crop is 13/15
I had been driving a couple years by the time I was 15...
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: TexasRedNeck on January 17, 2018, 07:49:05 PM
I had a full license at 14.  My oldest is 14 now and I couldnt fathom her driving around Houston in this traffic.

Its a wonder I'm still alive
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on January 17, 2018, 10:26:50 PM

Nice little machine there. That looks safe enough for the pre rangers to drive.
I will test that theory!

My goal for the Pre-Rangers by summers end is to have them able to operate that, the excavator, the tractors and Sarge if we still own it.


That thing with the brush cutter on it could really be a money maker for the kids school fund. They could rent it from you and hire out around the area clearing and thinning. That is the underbrush and berry patches not the forest trees. :smiley:
Copy that...I may just do some myself. I have a lot of stuff I want to fund. Remember that single mom with the two girls we gave Christmas to? Well, she needs a place to live she could afford. I'd like to have a fund that I could sow into people who are trying. Say give her $200 a month toward rent to bridge the gap and get that family safe. If I could earn a few thousand hera and there, I could keep a thing like that going.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on January 17, 2018, 10:29:20 PM
More progress on the 12 square shed project. Now have the walls within striking distance of being finished. I only need to build four more wall panels and I'm done with the four walls!
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Bigdave_185 on January 17, 2018, 10:40:08 PM
You have some shed inception going on, shed inside a shed ....


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Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on January 17, 2018, 10:49:24 PM
You have some shed inception going on, shed inside a shed ....


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That's the basement of my casa, Bro...


Basement has a 25 X 25 wood working shop
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Bigdave_185 on January 17, 2018, 11:01:00 PM
What?s your sq of the main level?


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Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on January 17, 2018, 11:11:40 PM
What?s your sq of the main level?


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Heck, I don't know

5,320 all three floors heated, 7,500 total sq/ft with shop, storage and two garages.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: JR on January 18, 2018, 01:22:50 PM
Heck, that is the size of many lots!!
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Sammconn on January 18, 2018, 02:31:27 PM
I believe it falls into casa size large.

I like the tall ceiling in the basement.
At least that was done right!
Builders that realize the importance of having eight foot plus headroom are nice to find.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: JR on January 18, 2018, 03:02:02 PM
My lot is just 8000, moms is 7000. I will admit my house is on the small side, including the upstairs is around 2200 now.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: TexasRedNeck on January 18, 2018, 10:32:42 PM
I'm over the large house.  I'm wanting to reduce my taxable footprint.  Tired of writing stupid checks for property taxes to the gubment.

My goal is to reduce the size/cost of my house and pay less in taxes.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on January 19, 2018, 08:56:14 PM
I'm over the large house.  I'm wanting to reduce my taxable footprint.  Tired of writing stupid checks for property taxes to the gubment.

My goal is to reduce the size/cost of my house and pay less in taxes.
Me 2!

House was Kat's concept

She did all this while I was living on a sheet of plywood in Kandahar

Came home to this castle and just stared

My garage is all I really cared about. I haven't even taken a seat in all of the bathrooms yet!

Nossir, I am plenty happee down farmside in my camper. That thing is like 80 times more space, 1000 times more privacy, and 10,000 times quieter than my flat in Kandahar.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: dave945 on January 19, 2018, 10:12:13 PM
Kandahar was quiet.......if you don?t count the 100 brits in the tent with me, or the tanks starting up at oh dark thirty or the sirens when someone decided to lob a mortar round into the base.  But they did have a Tim Horton?s and a Burger King when I went there, as welll as a hockey rink for the Canadians.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: stlaser on January 19, 2018, 10:35:01 PM
I'm over the large house.  I'm wanting to reduce my taxable footprint.  Tired of writing stupid checks for property taxes to the gubment.

My goal is to reduce the size/cost of my house and pay less in taxes.

 :likebutton:

I agree, next place is gunna be even less going to guberment. Part of reason I am finishing basement myself. The permit alone is $2k then the additional property taxes they heap on when they find out it?s finished & has more bathrooms.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on January 20, 2018, 04:55:11 PM
Kandahar was quiet.......if you don?t count the 100 brits in the tent with me, or the tanks starting up at oh dark thirty or the sirens when someone decided to lob a mortar round into the base.  But they did have a Tim Horton?s and a Burger King when I went there, as welll as a hockey rink for the Canadians.
I remember all those things coming in there

Believe it or not, KAF only had some 7,000 peeps when I first stepped off the plane there, not tens of thousands it had when I left. It had no tanks, just a few Canadian IFV that the T-ban all but destroyed in 06. I remember the day Timmy Hortons showed up. The board walk was only the south side and a bit of the east walk. There was a pizza inn, burger king and subway if you can call it that, and dirt. On the long side was a telephone hut, a couple vendors and nothing else. A rocket hit about halfway down that side and killed a girl and a guy who were dating. I remember walking by there later...strangest thing...but the engineers had simply dumped a pile of 2 x 4's near the wreckage and two of them fell to make a perfect cross about where she died. I remember walking down to the old blown up hangar on Kilo ramp that we first occupied and seeing that. I stopped with a CW5 who pointed to that cross and nodded. Something unworldly was going on with that.
And remember the Dutch mess hall just across the street from the boardwalk area? I was there when another 107mm landed in it during the evening meal. One of the luckiest shots those idiots ever made in my opinion.

Yep, I remember KAF
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on January 22, 2018, 09:46:23 PM
Knocked out two more wall panels today and attached all the inside door latches.

Two more panels and it's paint time then teardown and transport time for the wall sections
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on January 23, 2018, 09:32:53 PM
Two developments

1. Got all the wall panels built for the 12-square shed

and

2. Cancelled the SVL-75-2 purchase, and purchased a SVL-95-2 instead YIPPEE!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: rpar86 on January 23, 2018, 10:33:18 PM
75 vs 95 = more power to rip up implements faster?


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Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: TexasRedNeck on January 24, 2018, 06:16:47 AM
wanna come dig my pool?
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on January 24, 2018, 10:57:23 AM
75 vs 95 = more power to rip up implements faster?


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Possibly

TWT (Time will tell)
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on January 24, 2018, 10:58:57 AM
wanna come dig my pool?
Would love to!

Good fellowship on the drive down (Cause you're gunna pick me up in that big red dually, then cart my butt home afterward along with Spud!)
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: TexasRedNeck on January 24, 2018, 02:45:22 PM
Would be an honor, sir!


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Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on January 24, 2018, 07:25:54 PM
Would be an honor, sir!


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Well, we may just have something then...
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on January 24, 2018, 07:27:42 PM
Painted trim/door stuff like that on 12 Square

Watched You-Tube vids on Kubota SVL-95's wrecking trees and digging up stuff
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Armalite on February 05, 2018, 09:50:58 PM
 :likebutton: :popcorn:
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: EL TATE on February 06, 2018, 09:31:09 AM
I knew Ash was out there lurkin'. Lookin good Chief! how's the knee holding up?
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on February 06, 2018, 12:09:06 PM
I knew Ash was out there lurkin'. Lookin good Chief! how's the knee holding up?
First, Hello Ash

Knee: MRI tonight
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: stlaser on February 06, 2018, 12:31:17 PM
Is that a pigeon cutout on top of that window? :tongue:
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on February 06, 2018, 04:48:40 PM
Is that a pigeon cutout on top of that window? :tongue:
Nah, just my artsy-fartsy side coming out

Throwback from my youth actually. Uncle was a cabinet worker. He taught me the trade. He used that pattern often enough, I remembered it. Heritage, legacy and all that, so i incorporated it. Was only meant to remind me of earlier times.

May do an owl window though.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: rpar86 on February 06, 2018, 08:33:12 PM
Kind of makes me think of an eagle spreading its wings.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on February 26, 2018, 09:53:16 PM
Well, its been a month since I tore my knee all to heck and gone. And almost three weeks since the operation to repair it. I just couldn't wait any longer so today, I got to work on the farm again. I took delivery of the Kubota SVL-95 compact track loader. The thing is a beast. It just flies through the work
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on February 26, 2018, 09:55:16 PM
To train myself on the characteristics of the machine, I first used the tooth bucket to spread some dense grade graven over the wet spots in the driveway nearest to the shed
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on February 26, 2018, 09:57:56 PM
I got more done than what the pics show, but failed to photo the rest of the work. Steering it in loose gravel does tend to push up material into piles.

With the gravel spread over the soft spots, I went out onto the "Road" into the place and smoothed a hundred foot section of very rough excavation I had done with Sarge back in the summer. It did a great job with dirt, mud, rocks, trees, anything really!
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on February 26, 2018, 09:59:53 PM
Then when I went to check on the ponds, I was shocked to discover both were completely full and were running out over the levees. One levee was getting close to failure, so much had washed away, so I got to work patching up the hole, then built up the thing a foot higher.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on February 26, 2018, 10:02:02 PM
Spud moves dirt quickly and efficiently. The precise control and your great seating position allows one to pour the dirt exactly where you want it. No guesswork. I moved over half of the grub pile and built the levee about a foot higher.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on February 26, 2018, 10:04:26 PM
I haven't seen the place in over a month, but was pleasantly surprised to discover that aside from some wind damage, it had weathered the harsh winter pretty well
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on February 26, 2018, 10:05:43 PM
My two tracked loaders. One is big and moves a LOT of dirt. The other is fast and moves dirt more than twice as fast. Good pair here!
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on February 26, 2018, 10:07:04 PM
Judging from all the bird droppings, they are taking shelter in the arches
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on February 26, 2018, 10:09:06 PM
The shed base has held up, although the OSB has expanded showing big time signs of having soaked in a bunch of water. I will need to take some emergency steps to save it at this point. Heck, I thought OSB was imperious to rain...guess not!
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on February 26, 2018, 10:11:58 PM
I have 5.0 hours on the machine now. And although I was spinning the tracks a lot and doing a lot of pivot turning, the rubber casting marks (Tiny grid lines) are still visible. I am told tracks can last upwards of 1,000 hours. My JD 4720 which I purchased in 2012 still only has about 275 hours on it, so if the track life story holds true these will be around for years to come
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on February 26, 2018, 10:13:06 PM
Running back and forth on wet ground does produce some damage and wear as seen here:
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on February 26, 2018, 10:15:45 PM
Tomorrow is set to be sunny and 63F so I think I'm going to get on those ponds with the excavator and make room for some more water. I'm thinking of laying down grub piles onto the levee, then use Spud to work them out. Hopefully, I can strengthen the levee, make it a bit taller and make some more volume for the rain coming in Wednesday and Thursday.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Bigdave_185 on February 26, 2018, 11:41:18 PM
How long do you give it till that pond water clears up?  Is there enough water flow to support fish?


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Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: stlaser on February 26, 2018, 11:48:29 PM
Then when I went to check on the ponds, I was shocked to discover both were completely full and were running out over the levees. One levee was getting close to failure, so much had washed away, so I got to work patching up the hole, then built up the thing a foot higher.

Don, install an 8? tile (pvc pipe works fine too) at the height you want the water to crest at & run it through the dike. Then it will stop eroding the dike & overflowing the berm.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: JR on February 27, 2018, 12:05:04 AM
Looks like Spud is going to work out fine. An overflow of some type would be good for sure. Maybe something more than just dirt for the levee also.

OSB hates water. It will shed off some but it gets soft when soaked. Maybe spray some sealer on there until its covered. I had my upstairs flood during construction with over an inch of water years back. Got it off fast (drilled holes) and it is still solid and flat.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on February 27, 2018, 08:18:20 AM
How long do you give it till that pond water clears up?  Is there enough water flow to support fish?


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Well, plenty there now to support fish, either pond. More than an acre/foot in the big one, I'd guess

It will take some time to clear up. With all the digging it will see today and next week, it will look bad for some time I'd imagine.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on February 27, 2018, 08:20:15 AM
Then when I went to check on the ponds, I was shocked to discover both were completely full and were running out over the levees. One levee was getting close to failure, so much had washed away, so I got to work patching up the hole, then built up the thing a foot higher.

Don, install an 8? tile (pvc pipe works fine too) at the height you want the water to crest at & run it through the dike. Then it will stop eroding the dike & overflowing the berm.
I will Shawn, but first, I need to back dig the pond some to get the level down. I can't trench anything now or I'll start a flood, its too full.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Sammconn on February 27, 2018, 08:23:30 AM
Then when I went to check on the ponds, I was shocked to discover both were completely full and were running out over the levees. One levee was getting close to failure, so much had washed away, so I got to work patching up the hole, then built up the thing a foot higher.

Don, install an 8? tile (pvc pipe works fine too) at the height you want the water to crest at & run it through the dike. Then it will stop eroding the dike & overflowing the berm.

^^This.

And depending on volume, you may need more than one.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: stlaser on February 27, 2018, 08:37:53 AM
My old pond NE IN with quite a bit of rainfall (lots of lake effect precipitation, Lake Michigan & Erie) was 3.5 acres & on average probably 15? deep (deepest was close to 30?) across the acreage. We had a 10? on ours & it never had an issue. The pipe that went thru the dike was about 5? below crest. Then it came thru about 5? into pond side & had a 90 push on pvc fitting with gaskets in it that allowed the vertical section to get pushed back and forth when it froze over in the winter. Come spring I would adjust it back to level I wanted the pond at for the year. Worked really well and was not my design.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on February 27, 2018, 08:34:23 PM
Had some help today, and man, do the results show it!
Keith showed up and worked the whole day long on a couple different things. The main emphasis was the overflowing pond, but we started with applying a layer of deck paint to the floor of the soon to be installed garden shed walls.

Keith trimmed off the piece of OSB that was hanging off one side that I had not trimmed back in December when I built it. Right after that I got busy, which led to a very cold month, then the knee in just, and now its the end of Feb and I am just now coming out of all of that stuff
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on February 27, 2018, 08:36:44 PM
Here's the purpose made deck paint. Luckily when I showed up to purchase the stuff, they had an unpurchased recently mixed can which was an awful Lima bean green color.
I had them turn that into a red oxide brown which was acceptable I thought
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on February 27, 2018, 08:39:24 PM
It took the whole gallon to do one coat. In my view it should have gotten two coats, but I am thinking of double sheeting the floor since there will be a one ton tractor resting on it, so this surface is really just half of the floor. I'll paint that newer floor as well, but this in between layer will be protected to some extent.
First pic is freshly applied, the second some 6 hours later on
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on February 27, 2018, 08:41:41 PM
OK, on to the pond project. But remember the 1st axiom of work?

1. To work, one must first have to work, just to be able to work.

Well the batteries in Chief were on their last leg, so we had to drive Chief down there and jump Chief. With power, it immediately roared to life
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on February 27, 2018, 08:44:15 PM
Yes, I drove it down there with the top securely tied into place!

So the plan was for me to dig with the excavator, then have Keith use Spud to work off the grub pile and spread the dirt onto the levee. The plan worked great, but that Kobelco can stack up dirt so quickly that poor Spud stood no chance trying to keep up with the growing pile.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on February 27, 2018, 08:46:05 PM
From the cab of Chief, looking down maybe 16-18 feet, I would excavate a hole to what I believed to be the current depth of the water, then break the wall, and dig that out. The plan worked well.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on February 27, 2018, 08:47:37 PM
I'd say with each successive "Hole" I created and cleared, the pond would get perhaps 30%-50% wider as shown in this shot:
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on February 27, 2018, 08:51:56 PM
The grub piles were massive, and it literally took Keith the entire afternoon to clear the largest one off. But what a difference it all made. He was able to add uniform height to the entire pond and really widened the levee a bunch. Where before the narrow spot was not much wider than the actual track width of spud, by the end of the day that levee was wide enough to park my Chevy truck and spud side by side with room to spare! Keep in mind that the downhill side of that levee is around 20' tall! That's a lot of dirt!
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on February 27, 2018, 08:52:53 PM
Better shots:
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on February 27, 2018, 08:54:02 PM
After digging and while Keith moved dirt, I got on the tractor and started pulling the stones out of the dirt and stacking them in the field for future use
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on February 27, 2018, 08:55:45 PM
Sometimes you can back drag a pile of earth, then scoop it out and reposition it...Looks like this:
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on February 27, 2018, 08:57:07 PM
I think I'm set for the next two days of rain. Nothing hard like this past Saturday, so we should be able to stay within the banks I'm hoping.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Bob/OlallaWa on February 27, 2018, 09:13:00 PM
Yes , I agree time to put in the overflow piping. I would go with one larger pipe rather than two smaller but it isn't my pond. Size the overflow and leave some room for bigger runoff. Better to be too much at first than fighting a failure later. Other idea would be a  rock lined overflow swale area. That must be some real clay soil as muddy as the water is.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on February 27, 2018, 09:30:27 PM
Yes , I agree time to put in the overflow piping. I would go with one larger pipe rather than two smaller but it isn't my pond. Size the overflow and leave some room for bigger runoff. Better to be too much at first than fighting a failure later. Other idea would be a  rock lined overflow swale area. That must be some real clay soil as muddy as the water is.
Total clay

Packs in so hard it's like rock in the summer
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: stlaser on February 27, 2018, 10:24:32 PM
Well from the looks of things you have already utterly destroyed that kubota with filth..... :popcorn:
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: JR on February 27, 2018, 11:51:58 PM
Yep, all used up now, time to trade it in. Looks like it does the job you want.

Maybe you can put a couple of those hay roll thingy's to filter the runoff coming into the pond if there is a clear area for it.

Now would be the time to add a drain or 2, as you build the levee up so as not to dig it out.

So who's batteries were almost dead, Chief or Sarge?
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: cruizng on February 28, 2018, 08:02:17 AM
And no carnage... Can't decide if I'm disappointed or not.. :)  Very nice looking rig.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on February 28, 2018, 09:03:26 AM
Well from the looks of things you have already utterly destroyed that kubota with filth..... :popcorn:
I think that technically, the clay coating is actually a good base protective layer...Think of it as "Primer!"
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on February 28, 2018, 09:03:58 AM
And no carnage... Can't decide if I'm disappointed or not.. :)  Very nice looking rig.
Yea, isn't that weird?!
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on February 28, 2018, 09:06:30 AM
Yep, all used up now, time to trade it in. Looks like it does the job you want.

Maybe you can put a couple of those hay roll thingy's to filter the runoff coming into the pond if there is a clear area for it.

Now would be the time to add a drain or 2, as you build the levee up so as not to dig it out.

So who's batteries were almost dead, Chief or Sarge?
Yea, going to add the drain...Shawn seems to have the best idea on how to...But the pond is way too full

But like always I have a plan

Don is gonna excavate a whole new area of equivalent size. Then cut the wall between the two sides

Then when the pond level drops several feet, I'll get in there and install the overflow before the pondage back-fills to the current level.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: stlaser on February 28, 2018, 10:23:42 AM
Yep, all used up now, time to trade it in. Looks like it does the job you want.

Maybe you can put a couple of those hay roll thingy's to filter the runoff coming into the pond if there is a clear area for it.

Now would be the time to add a drain or 2, as you build the levee up so as not to dig it out.

So who's batteries were almost dead, Chief or Sarge?
Yea, going to add the drain...Shawn seems to have the best idea on how to...But the pond is way too full

But like always I have a plan

Don is gonna excavate a whole new area of equivalent size. Then cut the wall between the two sides

Then when the pond level drops several feet, I'll get in there and install the overflow before the pondage back-fills to the current level.

Marking this date on the calendar, the boss said I had a good idear.... :tongue:
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on February 28, 2018, 10:40:28 AM
Yep, all used up now, time to trade it in. Looks like it does the job you want.

Maybe you can put a couple of those hay roll thingy's to filter the runoff coming into the pond if there is a clear area for it.

Now would be the time to add a drain or 2, as you build the levee up so as not to dig it out.

So who's batteries were almost dead, Chief or Sarge?
Yea, going to add the drain...Shawn seems to have the best idea on how to...But the pond is way too full

But like always I have a plan

Don is gonna excavate a whole new area of equivalent size. Then cut the wall between the two sides

Then when the pond level drops several feet, I'll get in there and install the overflow before the pondage back-fills to the current level.

Marking this date on the calendar, the boss said I had a good idear.... :tongue:
Yep!

That's one in a row!
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: wyorunner on February 28, 2018, 11:27:05 AM
And no carnage... Can't decide if I'm disappointed or not.. :)  Very nice looking rig.
Yea, isn't that weird?!

No this isn?t weird! A new piece of equipment should get AT LEAST three days of work before carnage ensues! You?re  in it two. Job well done.

Do you have an eventual size you?d like the pond to be? Or is the plan to just keep adding until it?s big enough to swallow chief whole?
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on February 28, 2018, 12:26:53 PM
It will end up a bit larger than twice the size you currently see.

And it will already swallow up Sarge, chief spud, SquareD, 12 square, you, your ramcharger, and Shawn's girly jeep!
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: cruizng on February 28, 2018, 05:12:52 PM
And no carnage... Can't decide if I'm disappointed or not.. :)  Very nice looking rig.
Yea, isn't that weird?!

Well I didn't want to have to point this out but weren't you on the excavator (sitting in one spot for long periods of time) and Keith was in the NEW Kubota? At least if I was reading this correctly.  :shocked:
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: JR on February 28, 2018, 05:38:37 PM
Thats why its not broken.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on February 28, 2018, 08:04:40 PM
You people have so little faith!
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: JR on February 28, 2018, 11:31:30 PM
Faith we have, that is another story.

I believe carnage is time tested, or is that just me?
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on March 03, 2018, 08:15:50 PM
No camera recordin's but I got some stuff done today.

First I just intended it to be a shooting instructional day. M$ for the big one and .45 1911 for the blond haired one.

Stretch was able to shoot a 1" group at 25 meters consistently by days end and around 200 rounds. Gunslinger six was grouping five rounds in a soccer ball at the same distance. I picked up a 12" piece of 2 X 4 and tossed it. Told the pre-rangers if they wanted a ride home, I had better see some holes in it before days end. THey did it just fine. Darn that .45 blows up stuff!

Beside that, I got the oil changed in the little Deere, refueled the Spud thing, and mounted some tools. I hooked the cutter up to Spud and went off killing trees. It will take out a 6" tree pretty easily, but it has to chew on the tree for a bit. I think a Fecon forestry head will be in the works, but at $30K for a new one, and I don't trust used, I may just have to wait on that.

So plan is to get right back down there and get the shed walls up, then get a deck nailed down around the privy to get that project done. I need shop space downstairs to create the rafter trusses to be able to dry in the shed, so that will be the priority after tomorrow...We are hopeful to carry the walls down to the site and get them erected by COB tomorrow.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Bigdave_185 on March 03, 2018, 09:17:03 PM
That?s good to hear fun happens down at the farm,  not just carnage and distraction and more work!


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Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: JR on March 03, 2018, 09:52:37 PM
Sounds like a full day chief. Maybe a gopro mounted might help out?
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on March 04, 2018, 09:31:24 AM
Sounds like a full day chief. Maybe a gopro mounted might help out?
Yea, I'd like to have one, and helo mounted, but the bucks, man, the bucks!!!

Cause,

I have an insane bill to pay on this web site! (%#)(*!@#!!!!!!  $567!

Just to keep all you boneheads happie!

Ridiculous!

And what exactly do these hosting companies do??? Provide me a tiny bit of disc space for all your conversations and a dedicated server of 10 TB for all the pics I have loaded up ! ;-))
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: wyorunner on March 04, 2018, 11:46:34 AM
Sounds like a full day chief. Maybe a gopro mounted might help out?
Yea, I'd like to have one, and helo mounted, but the bucks, man, the bucks!!!

Cause,

I have an insane bill to pay on this web site! (%#)(*!@#!!!!!!  $567!

Just to keep all you boneheads happie!

Ridiculous!

And what exactly do these hosting companies do??? Provide me a tiny bit of disc space for all your conversations and a dedicated server of 10 TB for all the pics I have loaded up ! ;-))

You?re a good man! Paying, literally, to put up with all of the shenanigans on here! God is good!!! Thanks Chief!
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Bigdave_185 on March 04, 2018, 12:34:18 PM
We can delete that square D pages and probably cut the storage needs in half  lol I am fired now


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Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on March 05, 2018, 11:44:52 AM
We can delete that square D pages and probably cut the storage needs in half  lol I am fired now


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Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on March 05, 2018, 11:47:59 AM
Yesterday was expensive!

Not in terms of money, but in deposits to the BPB (Body Pain Bank)

We assembled the shed walls on site, skipping church because of the rarity af it being a great day, but throughout the day, I was getting more and more sore, and now I think I have bees set back a week or more.

But, we did it so here's how it started, We loaded the panels onto the trailer, went over to HD and purchased more 3/4" flooring and motored off to the Farm
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on March 05, 2018, 11:48:59 AM
Clean slate:
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on March 05, 2018, 11:50:00 AM
Which we laid down a second layer of 3/4" exterior rated 3/4" OSB
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on March 05, 2018, 11:52:14 AM
Yes, I do believe in the concept of enslaving one's off spring. I watched them work while I sipped sweet tea on the background. I would crack the whip as necessary to keep the work going at a brisk pace!

First up we assembled the "Guide corner" from which everything else was constructed
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on March 05, 2018, 11:52:52 AM
Then came the left door
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on March 05, 2018, 11:53:48 AM
And then the right along with its corner and a couple other panels
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on March 05, 2018, 11:56:16 AM
This was a S&S operation

(Squarin' and Screwin')

With the floor level and square, I only really needed to pay attention to placing the panels precisely into place, then fastening them in place. I used 3.5" #10 screws for fastening to the base, and 3" #9 screws to fasten each panel to its neighbor
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on March 05, 2018, 11:57:57 AM
Then the other side and finishing with the back panels. The last panel tucked into place with maybe 1/8" clearance which the screws sucked up as quick as you can whistle dixie!
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on March 05, 2018, 11:59:18 AM
And just like that, it was cold/late/sore/time to go

Have to fab up the roof trusses next and get some coverage in there
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Bigdave_185 on March 05, 2018, 03:17:30 PM
We can delete that square D pages and probably cut the storage needs in half  lol I am fired now


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Do it quick or you're really fired!
Well seems as I figured out I was fired before you did that has to count for something, meaning less time severed. So how about 24 hours of not posting in this thread?


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Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on March 05, 2018, 04:15:27 PM
We can delete that square D pages and probably cut the storage needs in half  lol I am fired now


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Do it quick or you're really fired!
Well seems as I figured out I was fired before you did that has to count for something, meaning less time severed. So how about 24 hours of not posting in this thread?


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We'll go with time served!

Just never, ever, as in never bring up the Chief's shortcomings...Not that there are or ever were any...Copy? ;-)
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on March 09, 2018, 08:21:31 PM
Got another day in on the Hide. Today, I was concentrating on clearing off the encroaching trees along the "Road" leading into the Hide. The concept is to get the brush cut back, then do the final shaping of the ground with a box scraper, then throw in some wild grass seed, then bush it from time to time for maintenance. THis is the right time of the year to get this part done, and now, it finally is!

I made several passes in the front. First to clear the brush, then to mulch it in better, then finally, I went and reduced the piles of brush that had been piled in place to place over the years. THe new owners mentioned that those brush piles could block some of the deer and animal trails, so I grounded them down to nearly nothing.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on March 09, 2018, 08:23:31 PM
Moving further back, I continued to open the place up to allow for mowing and to steer around developing water holes. In the near future, I plan to fill in and track over the wet spots then flatten the road some more
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on March 09, 2018, 08:25:44 PM
But just like every time I do this super destructive kind of work, my machines suffer. At about 16 hours of machine time, while backing up an tree limb found its way up between the cutter and the arms, and ripped off the line to the quick-tatch locking unit. By luch, the cutter stayed attached and I was able to work it for another hour.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on March 09, 2018, 08:26:16 PM
There was other damage too, but I'll post that over on the Spud thread
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on March 09, 2018, 08:27:39 PM
I was able to push the forest back 15-20 feet along part of one of my fields. It's starting to open up, and all of this is still viable and useable field space
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on March 09, 2018, 08:29:05 PM
Here is the drive out in sequence:
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on March 09, 2018, 08:30:30 PM
The middle section:
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on March 09, 2018, 08:31:51 PM
And the rest out to the highway:
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: OldKooT on March 09, 2018, 08:37:29 PM
Look good Don, that's a better road than our county road LoL
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on March 09, 2018, 08:45:18 PM
Look good Don, that's a better road than our county road LoL
... :likebutton:
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: cudakidd53 on March 09, 2018, 09:37:21 PM
WOW that is like a highway compared to when I dragged my trailer down it!  Still got that killer rock next to the electric pole!
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Nate on March 09, 2018, 09:54:37 PM
So 2 questions i guess....
1. Whos these new owners you spoke of
2. Whos camper you got hauled in there?
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: KensAuto on March 09, 2018, 11:00:31 PM
Yeah what he asked^^^

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Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: JR on March 10, 2018, 01:38:27 AM
That looks great Don.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on March 10, 2018, 09:09:52 AM
WOW that is like a highway compared to when I dragged my trailer down it!  Still got that killer rock next to the electric pole!
It's just waitin' for ya Mikey!
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on March 10, 2018, 09:11:20 AM
So 2 questions i guess....
1. Whos these new owners you spoke of
2. Whos camper you got hauled in there?
The large strip of land adjacent to me was purchased by a great local family some time ago...Such a relief to have good neighbors.

The camper was Mikey's...He came down for a couple days once
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: cudakidd53 on March 11, 2018, 10:11:26 AM
^^^ I believe that question was in reference to the new one near the entry point on the new gravel with the KU tire cover.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: BobbyB on March 11, 2018, 05:15:15 PM
So how're the tunes treating you?
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on March 11, 2018, 07:16:24 PM
So how're the tunes treating you?
Tunes?
As in radio in the Kubota??
I don't have a radio in it Bobby...
Could though, it's wired for it
But Working it and listening to the engine is good enough for me
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: rpar86 on March 11, 2018, 11:49:42 PM
I believe Bobby was asking about the EFI-live tunes in C-max...


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Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on March 12, 2018, 01:48:37 PM
I believe Bobby was asking about the EFI-live tunes in C-max...


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Oh, those tunes...

I only use the light towing tune, #3, I think. It is a performance booster to be sure. Very driveable and all the power with a load I'd ever need.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: BobbyB on March 12, 2018, 03:26:24 PM
Oh, those tunes...

I only use the light towing tune, #3 I think. It is a performance booster to be sure. Very driveable and all the power with a load I'd ever need.

Yep those tunes. It's never been brought up after you installed the dial on the dash, so I figured I'd ask.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on March 12, 2018, 09:40:18 PM
Oh, those tunes...

I only use the light towing tune, #3 I think. It is a performance booster to be sure. Very driveable and all the power with a load I'd ever need.

Yep those tunes. It's never been brought up after you installed the dial on the dash, so I figured I'd ask.
Sure Bobby...I have only experimented with the other four. Three is equivalent with as much power as i have ever seen in my truck. tune 4 and 5 must be for burning off tires or messing with 5.0 mustangs. Those two are very powerful,
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on March 12, 2018, 09:42:35 PM
I built most of the shed's roof trusses today over on the 12 square thread.

Hope to get them all assembled and mounted to my shed roof along with the laits for the roof steel this week...weather dependent. I really just want to get some of my stuff under a roof...Tired of seeing everything sun damaged
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: EL TATE on March 13, 2018, 11:08:36 AM
Maybe it's just me, but wouldn't it be easier to just yank out that lone tree that makes your road seem awfully narrow at one point? looks like it's already been pretty scuffed up anyhow. Good progress Don, looking forward to seeing that pond clear up. Will just be picturesque at that time IMO.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on March 13, 2018, 01:52:02 PM
Maybe it's just me, but wouldn't it be easier to just yank out that lone tree that makes your road seem awfully narrow at one point? looks like it's already been pretty scuffed up anyhow. Good progress Don, looking forward to seeing that pond clear up. Will just be picturesque at that time IMO.
You are totally correct.

That lone walnut is there for a purpose of restricting wide vehicles. When the time comes for me to carry 16'wide building halves down there it could disappear with the approval of the land owners. Also, I want to keep it nice for them, it is their land and keeping it looking as nice as I can manage is the right thing to do. I will invest more time and $$$ smoothing and planting there. THinking of a wildflower mix along the drive, then bushhog in the fall. but cut a 5' strip during the summer.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: EL TATE on March 13, 2018, 02:28:16 PM
I forgot that was part of the easement. Carry on sir.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on March 13, 2018, 05:20:09 PM
I forgot that was part of the easement. Carry on sir.
Roger

-CM
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on March 15, 2018, 10:11:44 PM
I had about eight hours of tractor time today smoothing out all the excavations I had made late last summer. Although the road is now of a usable surface (When its dry) the area where I cut the bank away has been more or less rough. ALthough I have been working on it here and there, Today, I actually got it ready for seed and nearly even and leveled out

Its hard to tell because of the clodding of the clayish dirt, but the embankment is no longer all chopped up in appearance
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on March 15, 2018, 10:14:03 PM
I'll be pleased never to have to work on that stretch again, but I'm afraid it's just not the nature of fire roads and access trails
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on March 15, 2018, 10:19:40 PM
And like always, aggressive work of this nature is not without its attendant issues.

I confess, I am growing a bit weary of always breaking something. I am going to fault these best in the world tractors some. John Deere's quality is simply not there. Stuff is hanging low to get caught, the transmissions and gearboxes break down, and I think the smaller tires on this heavier 66HP tractor are simply too small. This time I was just pushing dirt and the tire popped off the rim. The weight and HP of this tractor just overloads the tire. A larger tire would likely survive. This time the tire has been destroyed, as in no sealing bead remaining
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on March 15, 2018, 10:20:32 PM
For the record, the brand and tire size:
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on March 15, 2018, 10:25:35 PM
I am never going to purchase another John deere anything...Nothing except parts I can't find at Kia! For now on I'll look at Mahindra, Kioti and Kubota.
John deere lost a $**,000 sale when I purchased the SVL-95, and looking at it, the JD unit is a joke by comparison. Mine has High flow, wide tracks, 96 HP and the J deere had standard flow, skinny tracks and 75 hp...what a joke!

And BTW that new 2720 tractor I picked up last year which now has 60 hours on it??? Won't stay in 4WD! YEa, needs another transmission...What a piece of junk!
I'm going to turn it in for warranty and hopefully the thing will burn up along with the product line. Then just cut grass with it...Man for $20K I hope it can at least cut dry grass!
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on March 15, 2018, 10:26:44 PM
And of course another line got torn free! A blade of grass must have touched it and caused it to fall apart!
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on March 15, 2018, 10:27:31 PM
This is normal stuff: Lines getting pinched or folded or ripped off!
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on March 15, 2018, 10:29:25 PM
And here's another high quality J Deere part, their construction grade box scraper. Notice that the tines are all bent up or ripped off! I must have accidentally touched the dirt with them and destroyed the thing.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on March 15, 2018, 10:30:09 PM
I have to wrap everything with heavy plastic to even have a chance of surviving the day
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on March 15, 2018, 10:31:20 PM
Oh, forgot to mention, I sprung for the premium grill guard which can protect the radiator and grill against anything...or not!
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on March 15, 2018, 10:33:00 PM
I installed the new line onto Spud. The one that tore apart was really cheap, just a single wire low pressure unit. We built a 3000psi hose which is a great deal more stout
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on March 15, 2018, 10:34:35 PM
This machine is holding up really well. It remains a beast. Like nothing that it can't do.It digs like a chipmunk hot on the scent of a misplaced easter egg!
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on March 15, 2018, 10:36:15 PM
I'm really into recycling all the stone I keep unearthing. Next up will be another retaining wall near the camper. I plan to level that area, then build a sizeable fire pit where we can have evening fires...bon fires
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on March 15, 2018, 10:37:24 PM
The pond is staying at about the same height. That would be like 5-6' of water depth
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on March 15, 2018, 10:38:50 PM
That pond will grow to more than 100 feet wider than it is now!

I spent some time widening the Levee. You can see the new additional space to the right of the highly beat up still living tree.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on March 15, 2018, 10:41:10 PM
^^^That part of the Levee is at least 20 feet tall at this point. I'll make it another 5 feet wider, then build a ramp/road coming up the side to make it easier to run a cutter to cut the weeds

On the business end, look at how much dirt I have to excavate just to get to the top of the water level!
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on March 15, 2018, 10:44:15 PM
I'm going to have to repair this highly questionable area on Chief. The "Rocker" is all buggered up, and impinging the radiator access door. I'm just going to hammer the dog crap out of it to get some shape, then straighten the door and skin it with some new sheet metal. A surplus door from the salvage yard costs $800, so NO WAY!

Inside it is just a bit dirty, but in great shape other than the dirt and grease
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on March 15, 2018, 10:46:20 PM
The truck is running great!

It got 18.0 mpg on the return trip

The tires work very well with the grizzly and the wheelbase and weight. All in all, its a great truck for this type of useage.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on March 15, 2018, 10:47:54 PM
In an effort to manage the rainfall, I built up a little swail on the roadway to direct that runoff into the pond. Before it was draining into the field and down the hill, but no more.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: stlaser on March 16, 2018, 12:37:02 AM
And like always, aggressive work of this nature is not without its attendant issues.

I confess, I am growing a bit weary of always breaking something. I am going to fault these best in the world tractors some. John Deere's quality is simply not there. Stuff is hanging low to get caught, the transmissions and gearboxes break down, and I think the smaller tires on this heavier 66HP tractor are simply too small. This time I was just pushing dirt and the tire popped off the rim. The weight and HP of this tractor just overloads the tire. A larger tire would likely survive. This time the tire has been destroyed, as in no sealing bead remaining

Weld on beadlocks
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Nate on March 16, 2018, 08:51:42 AM
isn't this a brand new piece of equipment?
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: TexasRedNeck on March 16, 2018, 09:09:01 AM
yeah, that boy could break a bowling ball......
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: JR on March 16, 2018, 10:24:00 AM
Heck, I broke spindles and teeth all the time. But never lost a tire or hoses like BD does.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: EL TATE on March 16, 2018, 11:27:48 AM
 
yeah, that boy could break a bowling ball......
   :laugh: THIS^!!!!
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on March 16, 2018, 11:51:49 AM
I'm gonna go find a bowling ball!
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on March 17, 2018, 05:20:00 PM
Went down there yesterday with the thought that I'd stay the night, then wake and do it again all day Saturday
But in early morn, came the pitter patter of rain drops on my tin roof.

Anyway, the objective was to knock out the deck around the Privy, get that backfilled, mulched, and graveled. The fuel tank is going in adjacent, so that was all going to happen as well...Oh, Well...

I started with this, and a hole 3/4 filled with rain water!
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on March 17, 2018, 05:21:45 PM
I'll put a sump pump in there and pump out the water, not really worried about that at the moment

First I rammed a log into the bed mud, like bedrock, but gooier. Then fastened that to the frame to give some more foundation.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on March 17, 2018, 05:23:17 PM
Then framed out the front "box"
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on March 17, 2018, 05:24:16 PM
Sheeted that...
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on March 17, 2018, 05:26:03 PM
Then the side...
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on March 17, 2018, 05:29:25 PM
Then the backside...

Because of my late start, I decided to throw in the claw hammer at around 1900 and finish in the morrow (That got rained out). Next up would have been a covering of tar paper, then deck board along with lining the side with cedar half rounds harvested from the sawmill scrap. I'd backfill the half rounds and lay in cedar mulch from the sawmill as well, plant a few things and call it G-T-G

Have to wait I guess...

Back to building out big things for the shed for now...
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Bigdave_185 on March 17, 2018, 06:09:16 PM
Care to explain how this will work? You defecate in said hole, it feels up with well crap and than what?


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Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on March 17, 2018, 08:29:00 PM
Care to explain how this will work? You defecate in said hole, it feels up with well crap and than what?


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Once the water is out, the deep hole will fill over time (decade ++) and decompose, then I'll die and its the kids concern
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: stlaser on March 17, 2018, 08:32:28 PM
Move outhouse, dig new hole and cover old one. Repeat....
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on March 18, 2018, 06:54:26 PM
Oh, forgot to post this...SOmething moved into my camper over the long winter.

Dunno who,

But my mind got busy with killing thoughts
I think I have come up with a mouse killer of epic proportions...
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Nate on March 18, 2018, 09:35:21 PM
I would be having night mares on what he could have possibly have done to other things behind those walls
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Bob/OlallaWa on March 18, 2018, 09:59:54 PM

Oh, forgot to post this...SOmething moved into my camper over the long winter.

Dunno who,

But my mind got busy with killing thoughts
I think I have come up with a mouse killer of epic proportions...


Good luck with your thoughts on this. Many people have tried and failed, you could be rich if you have the answer to keeping these things out of the camper
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Bigdave_185 on March 18, 2018, 10:32:53 PM
One reason I can?t wait to convert my mobile storage unit into a trailer.  After the house that is


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Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on March 19, 2018, 10:19:07 AM

Oh, forgot to post this...SOmething moved into my camper over the long winter.

Dunno who,

But my mind got busy with killing thoughts
I think I have come up with a mouse killer of epic proportions...


Good luck with your thoughts on this. Many people have tried and failed, you could be rich if you have the answer to keeping these things out of the camper
I'm not so much thinking of how great the thing may be, but of just inflictin' a lot of pain in the process!!!!
If that mouse agrees to put back the insulation, and walks away...nobody gets hurt!
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: TexasRedNeck on March 19, 2018, 12:08:29 PM
You probably already know this but don?t poison them. They die in the most inconvenient locations and then stink up the place for a year or more dead in the wall

Use mechanical means. Sticky traps or other. (No not the Benelli M4, too much collateral damage)


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Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on March 19, 2018, 12:37:23 PM
You probably already know this but don?t poison them. They die in the most inconvenient locations and then stink up the place for a year or more dead in the wall

Use mechanical means. Sticky traps or other. (No not the Benelli M4, too much collateral damage)


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Thinking drowning and electrocution...I have an idea...
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Sammconn on March 19, 2018, 01:02:01 PM
Oh, forgot to post this...SOmething moved into my camper over the long winter.

Dunno who,

But my mind got busy with killing thoughts
I think I have come up with a mouse killer of epic proportions...
That sucks.
I no longer have my camper due to mouse infestation.
Long, long story, but it is now a write off...

Still have it insured and the tires?
My policy covered rodents.

I know it serves as your casa at the hide.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: KensAuto on March 19, 2018, 04:22:52 PM
My buddy uses mothballs when in the mountains, and it has worked so far. I think I would rather have rats than that smell permeating the rv.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: TexasRedNeck on March 19, 2018, 05:27:30 PM
Aww Ken. Reminds me of grandma


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Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on March 22, 2018, 08:31:06 PM
Posted elsewhere, but finished the gable dormer ends and whipped up those new mouse traps
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on March 23, 2018, 09:24:26 PM
So today I was testing the depth of the mud everywhere farmside, and it was definitely very muddy

I unlocked the gate while Scout circled me and the gate area. That's when I noticed some brown something near a developing burrow that I thought was a groundhog.

I saddled back up and started driving toward the shed, and that's when Scout noticed the brown mass and took off after it. It stood up with its arms outstretched as Scout charged it.

A Coon! And in the daylight...oh no! Coons will pull the eyes out of a dog quick, so without any time, I pulled the 12 gage from the mount, leveled it on the critter and squeezed off five shots with 00 buckshot at about 75 yards. I was hoping for a hail mary, and I got one. One round connected. I saw the coon spin, but stood up and jumped on Scout as they met. Scout threw him about ten feet, and I was hobbling and reloading. The coon paused just long enough for me to level and pull off three fast ones. Down to 30 yards, the buckshot made contact and ended the match.
I didn't like killing the poor coon, but I was not going to risk my dog's health, so the coon had to go bye bye!
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on March 23, 2018, 09:27:07 PM
First I replaced the tire/wheel on the 4720. I found a super heavy duty 10 ply mining tire for it. The dealership, knowing me, did. They said, "Just try to destroy this one!"
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on March 23, 2018, 09:28:51 PM
Back to work!

One thing I have noted since taking delivery of the Kubota.

When you get to the Farm, you work on the John Deere,but you use the Kubota to actually work!
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on March 23, 2018, 09:30:19 PM
I just planned to do earth moving today, but I did pick up the deck board to complete the out house project.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on March 23, 2018, 09:31:44 PM
Then I removed the bucket and installed the grapple onto Spud
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on March 23, 2018, 09:33:11 PM
The plan today was to move most of those boulders from where I pulled them out of the pond and stack them up on Ranger Wall.

Before starting, here is the progress point:
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on March 23, 2018, 09:35:58 PM
Here it is growing taller with each boulder.

Spud had zero problem lifting even the heaviest of those rocks, and that grapple is so powerful, that it sheared several boulders in half just by squeezing!
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on March 23, 2018, 09:38:02 PM
After several hours:

The technique is to level and back fill with the dense grade gravel, then wiggle the next stone into place, then back fill again, and so forth until reaching the desired height
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on March 23, 2018, 09:40:40 PM
These stones would not easily produce an even wall that had some better aesthetics. Rather than go for the look, I am just going for soil retention with a site sourced product. All this is costing me is the price of the fuel and the gravel.

The tracked Kubota definitely tears the place up a bunch more than my tractor used to.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: TexasRedNeck on March 23, 2018, 09:43:02 PM
thats one tiny coon. You should see the ones in Texas.....
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on March 23, 2018, 09:44:21 PM
I grabbed the 2720 Deere to haul to the stealership. It's over 10 hours so is no longer reliable. It pops out of 4WD constantly, and when going down hill with the loader full of gravel, suddenly losing the traction you need to keep from bob-sledding has happened WAY too many times

America's very best tractors, these John Deeres!

They look great and really if you use them as intended. on a level lawn carrying perhaps 15 pounds no more than a couple times a month, they will actually last and not break down!
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on March 23, 2018, 09:44:53 PM
thats one tiny coon. You should see the ones in Texas.....
Concur, he's about mid size.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on March 23, 2018, 09:46:38 PM
I also picked up the roofing lats and the roof trim boards. Its supposed to snow a bunch tomorrow, so everything got stacked indoors
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Bob/OlallaWa on March 23, 2018, 09:49:23 PM
Took a lot of shells to stop him to.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Bob/OlallaWa on March 23, 2018, 09:50:53 PM
The rock wall looks good to me, after all it is rustic down there right?
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on March 23, 2018, 09:58:09 PM
The rock wall looks good to me, after all it is rustic down there right?
Absolutely!

I hope to use some refinement when I start building from timber that is sawmill produced, though. First will be a retaining wall under the roof beside the camper, but later on, a full deck/porch around the shed
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Bear9350 on March 23, 2018, 10:04:06 PM
thats one tiny coon. You should see the ones in Texas.....
Concur, he's about mid size.

That's a baby compared to what we have here in Wisconsin.  They feed on corn silage from open bunkers and feed piles all year round. 
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: JR on March 24, 2018, 12:24:57 AM
That is some good stone for making things, even better it is free on site!

Heck, my coon was around 20lb and took a few pellets to kill. I hate how they tear up the yard and they are known for carrying rabbies.

Sounds like the kabota has a happy owner. Fix the JD and sell it.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: BobbyB on March 24, 2018, 07:50:38 AM
Found you and the youngun's a farm truck.

http://www.govplanet.com/for-sale/Pickup-Trucks-1989-Chevrolet-R2500-Crew-Cab-Pickup-Kentucky/1362449?h=5000%2Cct%7C3%2Cc%7C2271%2Cmode%7C2&rr=0.5&hitprm=&pnLink=yes



So going to make your coonskin cap for wearing down on the farm now?
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on March 24, 2018, 09:58:26 AM
Found you and the youngun's a farm truck.

http://www.govplanet.com/for-sale/Pickup-Trucks-1989-Chevrolet-R2500-Crew-Cab-Pickup-Kentucky/1362449?h=5000%2Cct%7C3%2Cc%7C2271%2Cmode%7C2&rr=0.5&hitprm=&pnLink=yes



So going to make your coonskin cap for wearing down on the farm now?
That's a keeper

Dash is cracked...Can't work with that
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on April 06, 2018, 09:22:20 AM
Threw up most of the roof on top of the new shed:
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on April 07, 2018, 01:39:24 PM
So, back on the never ending punch-out list

First up was spending buld dollars refuelling the machinery. That 100 gallon tank in the back of the Armee trailer extracted $259 from my wallet for one fill-up from the Costco. That in turn got divided amongst the hungry beast of the farm.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on April 07, 2018, 01:42:06 PM
Despite my recent addition of a third more pond, the darned thing filled up and ran over again!

So did the smaller one. Runoff cut part of the road away! I made that one 6-8 feet deeper than before...

I'll continue with the digging and widening and adding depth. Next time I will bust the levee between the two when I have pipe in hand, so that I can quickly trench and install the drain before the next water gathering event.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on April 07, 2018, 01:43:26 PM
Similarly, the well has around 30 feet of water in it. Need to get that solar pump dropped in and running soon to pump those two 3,000 gallon tanks full.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on April 07, 2018, 01:46:46 PM
So, onto the privy (Punch-out list)

First up was site cleanup, and wrapping the thing with heavy roof felt/tar paper.

Then I stacked all the debris in and around the paper to protect it against the dirt that would soon be pressing inward. I feel this "Skirt" will seal the outside up against critter intrusion and escaping of unwanted gasses
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on April 07, 2018, 01:48:05 PM
Then I cut in the deck board, (Yea, Dave, still using the treated pine...) around the trim
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on April 07, 2018, 01:49:15 PM
Adding more and more until I ran out. Dang-it! I didn't have enough to finish, short, maybe three boards! Grrrrr...
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on April 07, 2018, 01:53:33 PM
Then I grabbed Spud and let that beast do its thing. I added a lot of dirt, completely recontouring the land to form a flat rise where the throne room is resting at the top.

This is only rough grading. I plan to drag it all a bit flatter, then add seed/straw to some, cedar mulch and a couple shrubs to another side and finish with a flat area of gravel to the right, then move the 300 gal fuel tank to that spot, it's permanent home

But it's good enough for now. Outhouse looks well planted now!
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on April 07, 2018, 01:55:01 PM
Spud got a couple bumps and bruises out of some close encounters of the cedar kind!
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on April 07, 2018, 01:57:15 PM
Next up, I went to deploy the mice killars'

Filling them with water I discovered that weld spatter will burn a hole right through a brand new pail!

Hmmm, not nearly as sturdy as my cardboard welding tables of the past!
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Bob/OlallaWa on April 07, 2018, 01:58:37 PM
Shucks, touch it up with some JD green paint and all will be well. In a couple years doing that the thing will match the other JD tractors.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on April 07, 2018, 01:58:43 PM
But 100MPH tape sticks underwater, so I patched her up and here are the pits of death in their final incarnation:
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on April 07, 2018, 01:59:08 PM
Shucks, touch it up with some JD green paint and all will be well. In a couple years doing that the thing will match the other JD tractors.
;-))
Title: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: rpar86 on April 07, 2018, 03:08:26 PM
Don, I?m sure this has already been asked... could you get the dyed off-road diesel for the machinery and save a few bucks? Of course if there are no stations that carry it nearby/on your route that would eat up potential cost savings in fuel/time.


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Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on April 07, 2018, 09:54:29 PM
Don, I?m sure this has already been asked... could you get the dyed off-road diesel for the machinery and save a few bucks? Of course if there are no stations that carry it nearby/on your route that would eat up potential cost savings in fuel/time.


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From everything I see, red diesel is a big lie! Saving money with it is just not true.

First of all if I were to put any of that stuff in any of my fuel tanks, then i could never use that tank to transfer fuel for use in my truck.

Next point, the gas stations that sell it charge more for it than i can get the low sulfur stuff for at Costco.

Next point, companies who deliver it do not give discounts, and charge for delivery. You end up paying 25 to 50 cents more per gallon that at a pump. The only reason I can see that farmers buy it and have it delivered is that they buy big quantities which makes doing what I do, hauling in 100 gallons at a time, impractical.

Cheapest way is for me to grab 100 gal at Costco on my way down to the farm, then transload it into my tank there.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: KensAuto on April 07, 2018, 11:46:45 PM
The crapper, and backfill turned out really nice. Good job
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: rpar86 on April 08, 2018, 01:34:39 AM
A simple ?it?s mo-expensive? would?ve sufficed ;)

But all of that makes total sense!


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Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on April 08, 2018, 11:40:13 AM
A simple ?it?s mo-expensive? would?ve sufficed ;)

But all of that makes total sense!


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Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on April 11, 2018, 08:46:44 AM
Two dead mice!

Not in the bucket, but stuck to the glue traps nearby

Word on the street: The sight of the water death obstacle scared the mice into a frenzy which caused one to die from a heart attack, then apparently his buddy carried him over onto the glue trap and became stuck there himself!

Amazing, but true! ;-)
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on April 11, 2018, 08:48:30 AM
Darned knee is giving me fits...Can barely walk,

But

I can drive!  :smiley:

So I drove to the farm and finished the outhouse grading

Before/after
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on April 11, 2018, 08:50:12 AM
Managed to tear up a deck board with the tractor @(*%#$!!!)

But seeded it with construction mix 50/50 annual rye grass/Kentucky 31
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on April 11, 2018, 08:51:58 AM
Then I graveled in a pad next to it for the diesel tank and placed it there in it's newest semi-permanent home
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on April 11, 2018, 08:56:10 AM
^^^ Need to get my implements under some cover some day soon!

Next, I grabbed Spud and decided to cut a ramp up from the road to the front of the sawmill. I used the dirt as fill for a project going on just opposite it down hill from the camper.

Level ground in the Tuck is optional, and I didn't get that option with this farm. If you want a thing, you have to create that thing!

So here is the before pics showing un-spudded (unmolested) land. Left side is where rampage will happen, right side is to become flatter.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on April 11, 2018, 08:57:40 AM
This CTL thing is a beast!

Look at what I got done in maybe 3 hours and a quarter tank of fuel:
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on April 11, 2018, 09:01:55 AM
There is more grading to come, obviously, but the major stuff is all done. I'll cut in the banks of the ramp, and overlay with gravel. The flat "Parking lot will get some rockage, grading, gravel, and grass seed to finish. The end closest to the camper will be the site for a burn pit that is coming right up.

I can't believe how much dirt this machine can move in such a short time!

The backside needs to be tracked in and overlaid with top soil, then planted with weeds. I think I'll let nature do the last part!
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on April 11, 2018, 09:05:26 AM
There was another reason I did that in that fashion: The pond

The runoff from the house downhill was just going, well, downhill. But now this new swail will redirect that water to the pond where it will later wash away the levee and cause me untold problems! But for now, I am happy with my hippie thoughts of an ordered and managed farm.

In time I will build in a drainage ditch to catch water from the field nearest the sawmill and from water from the hill all the way down near the well. That way, I should guarantee a looming disaster!
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: stlaser on April 11, 2018, 09:10:37 AM
Johnstown remake here we come!  :facepalm:
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: cudakidd53 on April 11, 2018, 09:19:29 AM
Fire Pit = Old House/Basement, fuel oil & match.............
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Atkinsmatt on April 11, 2018, 09:31:07 AM
^ this was my memory as well.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on April 11, 2018, 09:32:17 AM
Donstown remake here we come!  :facepalm:
Fixed it! ;-)
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: stlaser on April 11, 2018, 10:42:36 AM
In your version how many casualties are inflicted?  :huh:
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on April 11, 2018, 10:49:57 AM
In your version how many casualties are inflicted?  :huh:
Exactly how many liberals you say are attending???
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on April 11, 2018, 10:52:33 AM
In your version how many casualties are inflicted?  :huh:
That's a one time usage!
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: JR on April 11, 2018, 11:27:05 AM
Were we all thinking about a burn?

Nice work otherwise. To bad about the knee. Mine is finally back to just OK.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: stlaser on April 11, 2018, 12:18:39 PM
In your version how many casualties are inflicted?  :huh:
Exactly how many liberals you say are attending???

Well, I think Ken is the only one we know & im not sure he qualifies as a liberal, more likely just really confuddled....
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: TexasRedNeck on April 13, 2018, 10:53:24 PM
I saw a rig like don?s svl95 today and I have to say, up close it?s a lot bigger machine than your typical track loader.  It?s a beast.


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Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on April 14, 2018, 04:21:29 PM
I saw a rig like don?s svl95 today and I have to say, up close it?s a lot bigger machine than your typical track loader.  It?s a beast.


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And size matters. Size and weight = Traction. This machine has 12,000+ lbs of tractive force and weighs 12-13ish with an attachment. so it's pretty efficient.
Owning and having worked Sarge (old Technology) There is no way Sarge could produce but maybe 50% of the output that the SVL-95 can. ANd factor in riding in heated/AC comfort vs throwing gear shifts all over the place while rumbling on 30K of noisy (and slow) steel, and these neg gen CTL's are hands down winners

But, everything has a place, and for the very biggest jobs, only a Cat 953, or my Case 1150 or similar would be able to get it done.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on April 14, 2018, 04:24:35 PM
PK, so today was the pressure wash of Chief, stage 1. I think this will take two parts to be sure. Here's how I did it:

Carried down 325 gallons of water, then hooked that to my pressure washer, picked a nice slick muddy area to work in, then let the thing fly!
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on April 14, 2018, 05:53:32 PM
Details are over on the "Chief" thread but the cleaning was a pretty big success. Next attack will be to remove the grease blobs and blast away some of the mud. Thinking about it, after knocking away the majority of the undercarriage mud, I'll move it some more so I am not sanding/painting in a dusty/muddy area, then wash it a third time
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on April 14, 2018, 05:58:49 PM
Next up, I graded out the whole new lawn addition/flattened area. I used the box scrapper and a couple hours of tractor time.
The Deere did not break down! Someone wanna make a note! That's like one in a row of useful days I got on that blessed machine.

I didn't get pics of the finished product because I had just pressure washed my camera which rendered it to paperweight status and bringing up the need for a:

CARREP: One Cannon EOS Rebel with a Cannon 18mm-55mm lens. As of this writing which is CIT + 28 hours (Carnage Incident Time)
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on April 14, 2018, 06:02:57 PM
Then I went around and topped up all my machines, then dumped the remaining into the newly situated DRP (Diesel Refuel Point)

That's, what, a 300 gallon tank? Showing somewhere around 1/2 tank?

So 150 in that, 95 in the excavator, 60 in Sarge, 30 in Spud, and say 15 in the tractor.

So total of 350 gallons on site...I think I'd be comfortable with 1,000 to 1,500. Have to slowly build capacity and add to that.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on April 14, 2018, 06:11:19 PM
I also started trimming out the shed. I really want to continue putting these projects away. Complete the shed, then complete the pavillion, then build a pump house for the well, then some shelter for the sawmill and implements...(Can anyone say "A barn?) ;<{ )
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: cudakidd53 on April 14, 2018, 09:46:00 PM
A barn, made from all the logs inside a collapsing barn that will be dragged to the saw mill and made into serious boards from well seasoned wood?  Sounds interesting!
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on April 15, 2018, 08:59:42 AM
A barn, made from all the logs inside a collapsing barn that will be dragged to the saw mill and made into serious boards from well seasoned wood?  Sounds interesting!
I think I am going to saw all that into planks and sell it on the general market. Imagine thousands of board feet of oak, walnut, Chestnut, ash, elm, cherry...
Might fetch a pretty penny.
My plan is to continue to develop the place, then at some point start to make money there from what is already there. Lumber, Landscaping stones, Cedar planks for fences, and who knows what else!
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: stlaser on April 15, 2018, 09:14:31 AM
Something to be said about recycling and using what?s there to build that place out. Imagine how cool of a house you could build with all of that lumber? Literally wouldn?t have to buy any trim or finish just send it out & get it milled.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on April 15, 2018, 02:09:15 PM
Something to be said about recycling and using what?s there to build that place out. Imagine how cool of a house you could build with all of that lumber? Literally wouldn?t have to buy any trim or finish just send it out & get it milled.
Shawn, I keep mulling that over and over in my mind.

I could literally raise a house out of the ground that I pay for as I go.
So I see that building all these small structures how much lumber is increasing in cost. I could literally remove that factor and only have to purchase the fastners, the paint, hardware and other things I couldn't source.
So I could dig the basement for free
I could build the basement walls with stones from my property. Cost is for mortar only. I could frame anything bit by bit as i sawed up the sticks I needed. I could cover with bat style exterior for free as well, just saw boards until my brain is numb.
I have thought about dedicating 6 hours a day for three days a week to such an undertaking. See if I could build a $30,000 home. Finish it our with all reclaimed stuff. I'll bet I could be happy with the result.

In the meantime, I am building out the "Shed" into a habitable home to get that experience and have a cabin, and later on, a guest quarters available.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: stlaser on April 15, 2018, 03:28:33 PM
I?d start by digging out the hill side for the basement. Use those big flat stones for the basement floor / foundation. Do it right & build drain / sump into the floor in one corner deep back in the hill side of the basement (any water run off that seeps from top of hill could go to sump / drain). Build the walls just like they did 120 years ago with smaller field stones. I would frame & roof house with dimensional lumberyard lumber. But you could do the basement for literally 5K or less. Then save up and knock out the structure quick with a roof. Get it closed in then work on it bit by bit with the materials you have at your disposal.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on April 30, 2018, 09:19:45 PM
I set up a semi circle of stones that will encircle a future fire pit. Watching Tex sip on some of Kintucky's finest while warmint his tootsies has me all green with jealousy. Now I am not building a beautiful thing like the gentleman from Texas has, but more of a rustic design. I really want to source materials from the site whenever possible and just "rearrange" them to my liking and purposes.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on April 30, 2018, 09:21:14 PM
After some more gravel to level and some grading and work with the stones. Spud picked up the largest one there effortlessly. That is one formidable machine!
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on April 30, 2018, 09:22:36 PM
Got a little more rock wall work in and did the final grading on the newly created falt area.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on April 30, 2018, 09:24:09 PM
I came up with the crazy notion to collect flowers! Yea, why not!
So we planted a couple hundred bulbs in that upper bed to get started. Might be fun to see if we can create a Bee-happy environment, then see if we can get a hive or two in there to make honey with.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Nate on April 30, 2018, 10:13:01 PM
Nice looking area!

Hows that gen set holding up for you?
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: TexasRedNeck on April 30, 2018, 10:18:48 PM
:like


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Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: stlaser on April 30, 2018, 11:11:23 PM
Ok, so this picture was taken last night in east Texas at guess who?s new place.....

Yes that is my truck & that is in fact a five foot wide x three foot tall real man cooking machine right there. Don, I think you need this for your new fire pit area. It worked great btw as I waddled away stuffed afterwards!


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Title: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: rpar86 on May 01, 2018, 12:08:22 AM
Got a little more rock wall work in and did the final grading on the newly created falt area.

Whose Lexus? You must have really improved the road for that to be able to get in there.


Edit: just read about the daughter in the c-max thread. Yikes!!

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Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on May 01, 2018, 12:33:24 AM
Nice looking area!

Hows that gen set holding up for you?
Works great. I run them (I have a few) in the late winter/spring to get rid of any residual fuel. I use them to run electric stuff when I am remote from the powered part of the farm.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on May 01, 2018, 12:35:27 AM
Ok, so this picture was taken last night in east Texas at guess who?s new place.....

Yes that is my truck & that is in fact a five foot wide x three foot tall real man cooking machine right there. Don, I think you need this for your new fire pit area. It worked great btw as I waddled away stuffed afterwards!


(http://i.imgur.com/npQsrH1.jpg)
That would be Mr. Ashleyferd!

How is your brother?

Yes, I like that cooker!
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on May 01, 2018, 12:36:50 AM
Got a little more rock wall work in and did the final grading on the newly created falt area.

Whose Lexus? You must have really improved the road for that to be able to get in there.


Edit: just read about the daughter in the c-max thread. Yikes!!

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Youngest Daughter
Hospitalized at the moment
Needs surgery to repair one or both of the breaks.

Likely will happen Wed/Thur. Still waiting on doctor politics to play out. She is on Morphine, OxyCodone, and Tylenol! (All at the same time

And you can bet your arse that we are watching that very closely. This is how people get addicted to opioids!  :angry:
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: TexasRedNeck on May 01, 2018, 05:05:29 AM
Shawn I thought my hippie radar went off while I was at my weekend place. You were only about 75 miles away


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Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: EL TATE on May 01, 2018, 10:45:06 AM
Got a little more rock wall work in and did the final grading on the newly created falt area.

Whose Lexus? You must have really improved the road for that to be able to get in there.


Edit: just read about the daughter in the c-max thread. Yikes!!

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Youngest Daughter
Hospitalized at the moment
Needs surgery to repair one or both of the breaks.

Likely will happen Wed/Thur. Still waiting on doctor politics to play out. She is on Morphine, OxyCodone, and Tylenol! (All at the same time

And you can bet your arse that we are watching that very closely. This is how people get addicted to opioids!  :angry:

I got hit by a car when I was 10. Joe Namath knee destruction and double compound fracture on the lower leg. I got the morphine in the ambulance but then went into shock and respiratory shut down. they had to give me the overdose med, Narcan I think, which fixed the problem, but I had to ride out the full pain for several hours until surgery, so I really get her ordeal with travel to the hospital. although now my pain tolerance is somewhere north of "oh I guess that finger really is broken, huh." Good thing is, even with kidney stones and other such painful nonsense I don't really need anything stronger than advil anymore so I don't have to worry about those devil drugs causing strife. I really hope she recovers quickly and PT is easy for her. Nothing worse than struggling to get back to just normal.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: JR on May 01, 2018, 10:43:29 PM
Yep, I am the opposite. You have to drug the heck out of me. Last time I took 6 shots and the dentist and it still hurt.

PT, know who you get. My last was great but the last visit put me back weeks, knee says hi there!
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: stlaser on May 01, 2018, 11:44:44 PM
Shawn I thought my hippie radar went off while I was at my weekend place. You were only about 75 miles away


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Don, sorry about your daughter hope she comes out ok.

Yes, was at Ashley?s place, pretty cool setup if he ever decides to visit us and give an update. Can?t say I?m not a little envious of this home he he has now.

Charles, didn?t realize you were that close. Wife and I are talking about going back down in next year. Direct flight from DIA to Shreveport daily I think now.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on May 12, 2018, 09:10:36 AM
OK, through the ACS (Allie Crisis Situation)

So the weather is perfect, so I'm piling on the big projects

I will be finishing the shed, but also doing some heavy forest clearing and log production while the temps are moderate. When it gets to upper 80's-90's with high humidity, hard work becomes almost impossible.

So, the theme has always been to push back the forest to the original boundaries that some Amish settlers first cleared to create this farm. That outline is one of hardwoods which then has an inner ring 30-100 feet wide of Cedar trees. Some are ancient, and I will be leaving, but most are just good sources of timber and therefore useful

I wanted a better view of the pond from the camper, and later on, a bit further up the hill from the main shed and then someday a house. I could then on opening day, shoot my pick of deer near the pond with coffee at the ready in my PJ's

Here's what i am starting with:
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on May 12, 2018, 09:11:18 AM
Some of these cedars stand in defiance!
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on May 12, 2018, 09:12:04 AM
And so it begins!
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on May 12, 2018, 09:13:41 AM
Looking down the other direction, Mike, this is the field we shot in, this is what most of the fields look like, heavily encroached by these fast growing invasive cedars
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on May 12, 2018, 09:16:29 AM
Since I installed that 10 ply tire meant for mining equipment onto the Deere, no more flats. I think I'll get the other side shod with the same brand.

It worked well the three days I pressed it to do a lot of heavy lifting. Here seen carrying one half of a cedar tree. THe bottom part was turned into a log which will become a cant, and finally some sawn lumber.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on May 12, 2018, 09:19:22 AM
So here are the transition pics.

After this I raked the forest some, shoving all the bramble down into erosion ditches. The rabbits might love that, but then again, the coyotes may love it more!
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on May 12, 2018, 09:20:55 AM
Here is the pile of logs that clearing produced

So nice that this valuable wood will go into projects and not be wasted in fire
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on May 12, 2018, 09:22:21 AM
Brought the shed#2 up to within striking distance of being finished

Lacks only soffits, trim, some grading
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Nate on May 12, 2018, 10:18:28 AM
looking good.

I wish I had access to some of that cedar, I could make some really cool wood projects out of it.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on May 12, 2018, 12:07:53 PM
looking good.

I wish I had access to some of that cedar, I could make some really cool wood projects out of it.
What do you need nate?
Anything I could mail/ship?
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: cudakidd53 on May 12, 2018, 02:38:14 PM
Looking down that stretch of field I?m amazed I hit a beer can on the first shot with a 1x Red dot optic?

How?s the well level holding and did you ever have the water tested?

Every thing is looking good, now go down there and pick up your chainsaw before you mow again!
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on May 12, 2018, 03:25:59 PM
Looking down that stretch of field I?m amazed I hit a beer can on the first shot with a 1x Red dot optic?

How?s the well level holding and did you ever have the water tested?

Every thing is looking good, now go down there and pick up your chainsaw before you mow again!
Chainsaw secured!

Same lane!  And folks Mikey is a one eyed guy, Right Mike?

But the boy can shoot. Heck, I had a half zero'd M4 shooting beside him and he was hit, hit, hit...Mine was up and left, lost, lost...

Water, not yet. Had an idea to get a hippie to climb down in there and swim around for awhile, then watch him for a couple days...No volunteers yet. Water level is never less than 6 feet, but up to 30-35 feet at times. Well is 52 0r 54 feet deep, I forgot...
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: stlaser on May 12, 2018, 04:21:29 PM
Didn't know Ken could swim? But great idea!  :facepalm:
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: cudakidd53 on May 12, 2018, 05:40:43 PM
Bad right eye, hence I shoot lefty.  Got a local coven of witches that need dunking?
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Bigdave_185 on May 12, 2018, 06:30:27 PM
If the hippie dies in the hole doesn?t that contaminate the water?   We don?t need no Hillary water on the farm,   Or.   Is that how hippies reproduce? One dies other around are contaminated with hippie stuff


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Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: JR on May 13, 2018, 05:56:58 PM
Looks good and no carnage cept the truck tire?

Have to teach my oldest to shoot with his left eye. Right has a blem dead center.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: cudakidd53 on May 13, 2018, 06:22:25 PM
Looks good and no carnage cept the truck tire?

Have to teach my oldest to shoot with his left eye. Right has a blem dead center.

Been there and done that!  :likebutton:
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on May 13, 2018, 10:25:00 PM
Looks good and no carnage cept the truck tire?

Have to teach my oldest to shoot with his left eye. Right has a blem dead center.
Just the trailer tire:

Won't hold air

I'll take it in and get a good patch on it in the morning
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: dave945 on May 13, 2018, 11:20:25 PM
Where did you get your soffit at?
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: JR on May 14, 2018, 12:17:11 AM
It holds air fine, just no pressure.

How in the heck you do that?
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on May 14, 2018, 08:48:26 AM
Where did you get your soffit at?
ABC Supply - Erlanger, KY
3 Floridian Dr
Erlanger, KY 41018-1330
P: (859) 341-4500
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on May 14, 2018, 08:50:27 AM
It holds air fine, just no pressure.

How in the heck you do that?
Looks like something hit the leading edge of the fender, that shoved the fender lip back onto the tire, which sawed it apart.

I used the tractor bucket to straighten the fender back out...Well, it's not all that straight, but it is no longer contacting the tire! ;-))
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Bigdave_185 on May 14, 2018, 09:25:12 AM
Just cut them off. You don?t need those anyway


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Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Nate on May 14, 2018, 09:47:53 AM
looking good.

I wish I had access to some of that cedar, I could make some really cool wood projects out of it.
What do you need nate?
Anything I could mail/ship?

I'm good, I was just commenting on how great it would be to have access to fresh cut timber, and not have to deal with that crap out of the stores.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on May 14, 2018, 10:02:26 AM
Just cut them off. You don?t need those anyway


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True!
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on May 19, 2018, 10:24:45 AM
Next up: Rain collection system part 1

I will be using this roof to collect rain water for use in the camper:
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on May 19, 2018, 10:26:15 AM
First up was the measuring and snapping the chalk line to establish the angle necessary to drain, then I just slapped on standard 5" gutter
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on May 19, 2018, 10:28:02 AM
Using 3" PVC, I simply positioned a standard 90 degree elbow directly beneath the drain spout then connected up a 3" drain pipe leading to the rain collection tanks in the water containment shed.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on May 19, 2018, 10:30:10 AM
I placed a "T" in the system with the length of 3" Pictured which is capped off. THe purpose of that is to siphon off the first few gallons of water off the roof which may contain contaminants. The sump fills first hopefully catching sediment, thus providing for some early filtering of the water.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on May 19, 2018, 10:32:59 AM
So that the water does not remain captured in the sump, I drilled a 1/4" hole in it so that the water constantly drains off.

I did a little observing and learning during the subsequent rain shower, and determined that a 1/4" hole is a bit to big for a light rain, as the rain fall will not overcome the 1/4" hole's capacity to drain the sump, meaning all the catchment gets drained off and not captured. I think I'll plug and drill a 1/8" hole next.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on May 19, 2018, 10:33:33 AM
The whole thing fit pretty well, and is not all that unsightly
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on May 19, 2018, 10:34:14 AM
Here is the activity of that weep hole during another light shower
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on May 19, 2018, 10:37:26 AM
After that I screwed a bolt into the orifice since the roof and pipe seemed to be flushed. During the night we had about two hours of a light rain and some rain showers. During the two hours the tank filled some 40 gallons.

With variables as wide as they are, the early math suggests 20 gallons of water an hour during light rain...not too bad. That's a day's worth of water usage in a camper setting from one light rain.

The nature of thunder storms of which we have many are going to produce much. much more water. I would expect those tanks to just continue to fill regardless of the demand I place on them.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on May 19, 2018, 10:38:10 AM
View of the outhouse from beneath the deck awning
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on May 19, 2018, 10:39:10 AM
The JD 2720 has been repaired and has found a new home inside the new shed.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on May 19, 2018, 10:40:18 AM
Next up is more work on the shed. THis time it's soffits

Hard to see but I just screwed down the "J" channel
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on May 19, 2018, 10:42:25 AM
The soffit comes in 12' lengths which you need to cut down to the proper length. That was 11 3/4" for my application

I only had time for just one side with the constant rain coming and going.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on May 19, 2018, 10:43:14 AM
The old place is coming around. Little bit, by little bit.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: stlaser on May 19, 2018, 11:23:03 AM
So that the water does not remain captured in the sump, I drilled a 1/4" hole in it so that the water constantly drains off.

I did a little observing and learning during the subsequent rain shower, and determined that a 1/4" hole is a bit to big for a light rain, as the rain fall will not overcome the 1/4" hole's capacity to drain the sump, meaning all the catchment gets drained off and not captured. I think I'll plug and drill a 1/8" hole next.

Don, the volume of that drop pipe is considerable, I?d not go smaller on the hole. It will plug, install a valve & crack it slightly. Then if you want to clean it out, crack the pvc valve wide open.....
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on May 19, 2018, 04:18:47 PM
So that the water does not remain captured in the sump, I drilled a 1/4" hole in it so that the water constantly drains off.

I did a little observing and learning during the subsequent rain shower, and determined that a 1/4" hole is a bit to big for a light rain, as the rain fall will not overcome the 1/4" hole's capacity to drain the sump, meaning all the catchment gets drained off and not captured. I think I'll plug and drill a 1/8" hole next.

Don, the volume of that drop pipe is considerable, I?d not go smaller on the hole. It will plug, install a valve & crack it slightly. Then if you want to clean it out, crack the pvc valve wide open.....
OK
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: stlaser on May 19, 2018, 05:42:48 PM
It all looks good, that cap you have on the drop pipe can be drille / tapped for npt pipe fittings if you didn?t want to remove it.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on May 19, 2018, 08:50:57 PM
It all looks good, that cap you have on the drop pipe can be drille / tapped for npt pipe fittings if you didn?t want to remove it.
I already did it...Just didn't grab a pic of it...
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on May 23, 2018, 09:43:45 PM
Back on the shed project

Finally got the Soffit finished, well sort of. It still needs s trim piece to cover the gutter board and wrap beneath the exposed edge of the soffit.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on May 23, 2018, 09:45:07 PM
Then I added a loft to the inside, four feet wide and full width to handle bulky/lighter stuff
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on May 23, 2018, 09:46:57 PM
Next came some storage shelving, four on each side. I figure the right side is for lubricants and automotive stuff, while the left side will be for paint, chemicals and gardening stuff
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on May 23, 2018, 09:48:21 PM
I was able to fit the tractor, two generators, and all the paint and lubricants with room to spare
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on May 23, 2018, 09:49:39 PM
I cut out all the trim pieces and got a coat of green paint on them, but did not have enough time to get them screwed onto the exterior
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on May 23, 2018, 09:52:47 PM
So, this is kind of cool.

The black mark was where the water level was when I first installed the rain collection system. You can see, the level is coming right up. I am showering every day, washing dishes and normal hygiene stuff. I have nearly doubled the water (Accounting for all that I have used) so this thing looks like it replenished quickly during the spring months.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on May 23, 2018, 09:53:58 PM
This could be the first time I drove in on my "Road" and didn't trash out the truck.

I avoided the mud holes and went very slowly!
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Nate on May 23, 2018, 10:20:41 PM
Looking good
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: stlaser on May 23, 2018, 11:26:14 PM
That truck needs much larger tires....
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Bigdave_185 on May 24, 2018, 12:39:11 AM
Long ball has some.  Pick his up. 


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Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: rpar86 on May 24, 2018, 01:11:02 AM
Soffit on a shed - awfully fancy for down on the farm! Looks nice though!


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Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on May 24, 2018, 08:35:09 AM
That truck needs much larger tires....
They may look small, but they sure work well. Remember those are 37's!
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on May 24, 2018, 08:37:26 AM
Soffit on a shed - awfully fancy for down on the farm! Looks nice though!


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Yea, I want to give it a flower garden feel so I can attract not only butterflies and bees, but on occasion, the wife as well.
There's already a ton of testerone down there with all the construction, shooting, heavy equipment and general out-doors camping feel to the place, too much in fact to keep her there!
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: rpar86 on May 24, 2018, 11:36:26 AM
You mean she didn't know what she was getting herself into when she married you?  :knucklehead:
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Superwhdm on May 24, 2018, 11:45:46 AM
Don, do you worry about the plywood floors if the tractor is put up wet over time?

I just may use this tutorial to go ahead and put one on our property.  Much needed storage.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on May 24, 2018, 09:10:56 PM
Don, do you worry about the plywood floors if the tractor is put up wet over time?

I just may use this tutorial to go ahead and put one on our property.  Much needed storage.
In a word: No

That floor has two layers of 3/4" OSB

That's 1.5" of OSB over all of it. That's pretty strong wet or dry. The first layer was paint sealed. The second layer was water-proof sealed. I think I'm good.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: JR on May 25, 2018, 02:23:39 AM
This could be the first time I drove in on my "Road" and didn't trash out the truck.

I avoided the mud holes and went very slowly!

Thats no fun, but saves washing.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: stlaser on May 25, 2018, 06:21:06 AM
Don, do you worry about the plywood floors if the tractor is put up wet over time?

I just may use this tutorial to go ahead and put one on our property.  Much needed storage.

I'm surprised he didn't go for a cedar floor in that shed, would have given it a longer life span I think...?.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on May 25, 2018, 07:50:07 AM
Don, do you worry about the plywood floors if the tractor is put up wet over time?

I just may use this tutorial to go ahead and put one on our property.  Much needed storage.

I'm surprised he didn't go for a cedar floor in that shed, would have given it a longer life span I think...?.
I'm about to get started on sawing a lot of cedar up. Plan for that roofed area with dirt unfinished walls to get a perimeter of 2.5" thick cedar boards with roofing felt on the dirt side, then back filled. I was saving the cedar logs I am accumulating for that project. Depending on how that goes, I may saw up enough for a porch on the main shed as well.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on May 30, 2018, 10:32:37 AM
This is one morning last week looking right out the camper window, within 50 feet:
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on May 30, 2018, 10:36:53 AM
So, I spent some days clearing more land and finishing the shed along with other things

The cutter I purchased with the SVL95 CTL is just a beast. It will cut anything. Steel, trees, rocks, rope, fencing, anything.

I am sharpening the blades every day now, but it will just work on anysize tree until it chops it down. Then depending on how much time I want to devote to chopping up the trunk, it will eventually do that too

Here I have just cleared out a fence line of scrub trees. I believe the cedars are going to come out as well, leaving just a few large hardwoods to keep it "pretty" and shady, but also open too
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on May 30, 2018, 10:38:02 AM
That work did cost me a bit

I'll have to make a CARREP:

Severely bent, one steel guard for the tree killin cutter:
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on May 30, 2018, 10:42:24 AM
My work was interrupted by several large thunderstorms. Proving to be not dangerous, they looked ominous and had me concerned several times

In the end they just filled my water tanks a bit more with each storm
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on May 30, 2018, 10:44:17 AM
And the water level keeps increasing over my daily usage. This past time I spent five consecutive days there and ended with more water than I started with.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on May 30, 2018, 10:46:55 AM
Next, I graded all around the old pond which I had mucked out last year. The gooey gray/blue clay inside the grubb pile was still wet after sitting piled up for 12 months!

The pond is doing well, completely refilled and maybe 8 feet deep in the middle where it had been a foot to eighteen inches when I started.

I think its ready for some fish
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on May 30, 2018, 10:48:56 AM
The shed is finally (mostly) done.

Trimmed out and water tight with security and working doors, it now houses a myriad of supplies and equipment, freeing up space to work in the shop of the main "shed."
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on May 30, 2018, 10:50:51 AM
I re-graveled around the main and auxiliary shed, raising the ground level to where it makes for an easy step in/out and creates a slope away from the buildings
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on May 30, 2018, 10:53:16 AM
I added gravel to the parking area, and walkways to the living area, and added some dense grade to the 3/4" "roller bearing" material I had mistakenly (without thought) poured on the slope up to the main shed.

I now have firm traction positive surfaces to stand on as opposed to skiing on! ;-))
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on May 30, 2018, 10:56:12 AM
Later I went to clearing an old fenced in corral which was hopelessly overgrown. I just tore the whole thing out, and that cost me a bit

CARREP:
This is the first significant damage to the CTL, a busted light and mount. I only have to wonder just how industrious a branch needed to be to find its way into this very protected area to crunch that light like that.
GRRRRR..........
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on May 30, 2018, 10:57:00 AM
The view continues to improve:
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Sammconn on May 30, 2018, 10:14:53 PM
Looking really good there chief!

Definitely some good storms you?ve seen blow by.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: TexasRedNeck on May 31, 2018, 06:39:47 AM
Seems like a long run to the outhouse when the ?chili kicks in?.....


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Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on May 31, 2018, 09:38:07 AM
Seems like a long run to the outhouse when the ?chili kicks in?.....


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Helps loosen things up! ;-0
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: stlaser on May 31, 2018, 01:39:41 PM
Seems like a long run to the outhouse when the ?chili kicks in?.....


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Helps loosen things up! ;-0

Careful Don, you?re getting old too loose might be a problem.....
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on May 31, 2018, 02:17:48 PM
Seems like a long run to the outhouse when the ?chili kicks in?.....


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Helps loosen things up! ;-0

Careful Don, you?re getting old too loose might be a problem.....
No comment
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: TexasRedNeck on May 31, 2018, 10:07:49 PM
At that age you never trust a fart


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Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: dave945 on May 31, 2018, 10:11:27 PM
At that age you never trust a fart


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Reminds me of something my uncle told me at my dad?s 80th birthday party.
1) never waste an erection
2) never trust a fart
3) never pass by a bathroom without stopping.

Sorry Don.


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Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on June 07, 2018, 06:11:58 PM
Well, after running both tractors most of the day, we managed to cut 30+ acres of field grass. Its just maintenance to keep the trees from sprouting and giving the ky#31 grass a chance to take over.

The large tractor did fine, but the little 2720 threw the belts and grenaded a pulley so it is back to the shop for it
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on June 15, 2018, 10:11:35 PM
I added to my capability a couple days ago.

I traded in my heavily worn 6 lug trailer (10K??) for a Big Tex 14K, 8 lug, 18 foot unit with knee ramps. They gave me a grand in trade for the old unit so I walked out the door owing $3200 for this new, really stout unit.

Reason you ask? Well, the old one was really getting beat up. It sheds parts on that "driveway" into the farm to the point my neighbor down there is picking up stuff that breaks off. Then considering I have no way to tow Spud if I need to take it in for service or warranty work, and well, it was just time to upgrade.
The trailer weighs 3,200 I think. It has a 14K limit which leaves 10,800. Now here comes the tricky part. Spud weighs 11,572 leaving 770 lbs sorta unaccounted for. I'm going to get a weight of the trailer on a scale and try and do the same thing with spud, knowing that published weight numbers are not always accurate.

So why not a 16k trailer you ask??? Well the flat bed units have a gooseneck, and I don't do GN's. Going up to a 16K dump trailer would have more than doubled what I paid, and I felt that 10,500 ish for a trailer was just too much.

So I stayed with a 14,000 rated unit and will give it a run and see how it fares. It is already all muddy from being down there, and although it is wider (83") on the deck making towing on narrow roads downright harrowing, it pulls great empty or loaded. The larger diameter 10 ply tires roll over rocks much easier than before making the loaded pull through mud holes out of the farm much easier as well.

I'll keep an eye on it as we progress...
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Bob/OlallaWa on June 15, 2018, 10:26:54 PM
Don, I am not a trailer builder, but what size axles are under it and the max tongue weight for your hitch? You could very well be road legal depending on how you load it and how much weight you can leave at the farm like attachments and tools. Might want to change the spring paks at some point depending on what you have now. Or move it when the weight police are having coffee and doughnuts and not change anything.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on June 15, 2018, 10:33:05 PM
Don, I am not a trailer builder, but what size axles are under it and the max tongue weight for your hitch? You could very well be road legal depending on how you load it and how much weight you can leave at the farm like attachments and tools. Might want to change the spring paks at some point depending on what you have now. Or move it when the weight police are having coffee and doughnuts and not change anything.
I'm pretty sure the axles are each 7,000 lb, 8 lug units with load range E tires

This trailer is known in these parts. Some grossly overload it and have been for years. We have almost no "Load police." Kentucky is just not like the eastern or western socialist/police states. Everyone around here pretty much just leaves things alone. We are not even required to put license plates on trailers. Just buy them and use them until they're dead.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: TexasRedNeck on June 15, 2018, 11:30:02 PM
If you put 12,355 on the trailer and add the 3200 for the trailer and you have 10% hitch weight you will only have 14,000 on the trailer axles




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Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: stlaser on June 15, 2018, 11:34:30 PM
If it?s the trailer I think it is, when you overload it too much and the front a-frame starts to tear from where it goes under the front of the deck give me a call & I?ll tell you how to fix it for good.  :popcorn:  :likebutton:
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Nate on June 16, 2018, 12:20:57 AM
If it?s the trailer I think it is, when you overload it too much and the front a-frame starts to tear from where it goes under the front of the deck give me a call & I?ll tell you how to fix it for good.  :popcorn:  :likebutton:

Now why did you have to open that can of worms.....HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: KensAuto on June 16, 2018, 12:51:13 AM
Why you gotta rain on his parade Shawn? lol

(even if it's not the one you're thinking of, the tongue is still far from being safe with Don using it)   :cheesy:
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: stlaser on June 16, 2018, 08:57:20 AM
Why you gotta rain on his parade Shawn? lol

(even if it's not the one you're thinking of, the tongue is still far from being safe with Don using it)   :cheesy:

Just being helpful.....
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on June 17, 2018, 10:30:26 PM
It's gonna break?

I mean knowing my history with stuff...

And get this, We broke the thing the very first day we used it

We just winched the daughters Lexus onto the deck and had the truck disconnected and turned around so i could use the winch to pull her car up the ramp. Well, the thing had its front "Foot" resting on a 6X6 section and it fell off.

When we went to crank the handle to raise it up, nothing worked. No movement! It was all locked up

So I had to get the tractor to raise the front up, then jam the handle around and it finally freed up, Not sure if I should take it back to the dealer or leave it be???

Then while pulling it home, one of the pre-Rangers heard what sounded like a chain dragging...It was!

One of the chains had fallen off the frame. The retaining pin somehow fell out and the chain was hooked to my bumper, but no longer to the trailer. On the second day I owned the thing!!!!

My luck with mechanical things: Not so great!
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on June 17, 2018, 10:34:07 PM
We have been working down farm side but in this heat wave, I grounded operations for now. Nearly all of us fell out from heat exhaustion. Dizziness/headache, weakness/ Nausea X all three of us!

But the good news is that we started off with pulling annual maintenance on the saw mill and afterward, after sitting dormant since last fall, it fired up on the first pull, and cut a pile of logs up without a hiccup.

I plan to build a half dozen adirondack chairs which required a nice pile of fresh cut cedar. I may just cut the parts out without drying it since its going outside anyway...
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Bigdave_185 on June 17, 2018, 11:22:13 PM
Take a photo of what type of jack is on the trailer? One of the simple bolt on jobs are not worth weight as a boat anchor.    The 7 ton capacity weld on to my enclosed and out dump trailer have been smashed on curbs and sidewalks over and over.


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Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: stlaser on June 18, 2018, 12:46:22 AM
They tend to stress fracture over time & then tear (slow process), best bet is to reinforce it from the start so it never goes anywhere while it?s straight. Really it?s the only weak link on them other than normal stuff like suspension & axle parts & maybe a coupler at some point if it?s not a pintle setup.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on June 18, 2018, 08:58:30 AM
They tend to stress fracture over time & then tear (slow process), best bet is to reinforce it from the start so it never goes anywhere while it?s straight. Really it?s the only weak link on them other than normal stuff like suspension & axle parts & maybe a coupler at some point if it?s not a pintle setup.
Mine is a pintle

I'll ask over there about the cracking thing, to see if this unit is given to any of that

Thanks
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on June 19, 2018, 04:24:38 PM
A small update...

Most of the work at this time of the year is simply maintenance. Given that its spring/early summer the fields need cutting, but with the new machine I am expanding them with every visit. Years of encroachment is giving way to the blade, and the felled trees are becoming useful lumber.

The water collection system continues to stay abreast or ahead of our usage, so that's a positive note. For reference the black line was the level of the water when the system was installed
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on June 19, 2018, 04:26:17 PM
The sawmill is getting plenty of use. This pile of timbers are cedar, cut to 1.5" thickness which will be used for a retaining wall soon when i have enough material processed
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on June 19, 2018, 04:28:07 PM
The leftover scrap is ground up into chips which I am currently using as a mulch like material. I am considering bagging it in 25 lb bags and selling as pet litter. The great smell of eastern cedar is hard to beat!
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on June 19, 2018, 04:29:12 PM
And the earthworks around the out house site has just about grown in nice enough to start mowing.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Bigdave_185 on June 19, 2018, 06:49:54 PM
That green green green grass all around looks good


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Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Nate on June 19, 2018, 08:19:35 PM
 :likebutton:
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: stlaser on June 19, 2018, 08:45:43 PM
Sawmill needs some shade, the rest is looking good.

I was wondering about the catfish pilots house, did they choose to rebuild?
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Bigdave_185 on June 19, 2018, 11:09:45 PM
Hillary helicopter?


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Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on June 20, 2018, 09:09:55 AM
Sawmill needs some shade, the rest is looking good.

I was wondering about the catfish pilots house, did they choose to rebuild?
Its complicated. He set conditions to rebuild which are very difficult to meet. I think they are now leaning toward selling the lot and buying/building somewhere else.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: rpar86 on June 20, 2018, 10:38:11 AM
That?s a shame - after he built that amazing garage/shop, but can always build again on the new parcel.


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Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on June 20, 2018, 11:57:02 AM
That?s a shame - after he built that amazing garage/shop, but can always build again on the new parcel.


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He can...
But he is older now, interests changing somewhat me thinks...
With his son as his primary focus, there is just about zero time for projects, and that is not going to change for years to come...
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: JR on June 21, 2018, 01:21:35 AM
I'm amazed at what you get done Don with the rangers needs.

Sure takes up a lot of my time, but that is what it is.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: TexasRedNeck on June 21, 2018, 06:35:31 AM
Looking good Chief. And no CAR REP this time.


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Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on June 22, 2018, 10:46:31 AM
I'll start a build thread over in the construction and building area...But I wanted to take a tree from it's living form all the way to a finished piece of useable furniture.

The spirit of the farm is to repurpose the things there into other things that i can use. Like stones excavated from the pond dig made into a stone retaining wall, and other things like that

I own a sawmill, and maybe 60 acres of trees, so it is time to fire that whole thing up to full production and start to create things from the trees I own.

As I clear the unwanted Cedar trees ringing my fields to open those areas back up into useful pasture and garden plots, I am using the cedar tree trunks for building purposes. I am currently sawing up a bunch of the stuff to create a retaining wall in the sheltered area I created in the side of the hill near the main shed. I will call that place the cedar pavilion as it is rapidly becoming a showcase for that beautiful wood.

I wanted to go one step better and more finely crafted so i decided to build some adirondack chairs from boards sawn from those otherwise waste trees. I use all of the tree, BTW. Whatever is not sawn up is chipped up and used for animal bedding or a mulch like ground cover to keep weeds at bay.

So, again, look to the new thread over in the construction tab, but here's a look at what's happening:
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on June 25, 2018, 04:21:50 PM
Finished two chairs which will now take up residence on that deck next to the camper.

Total cost for those two chairs so far is $6.23!
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: cruizng on June 26, 2018, 07:28:55 AM
They look really sharp!  :likebutton:
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: cudakidd53 on June 26, 2018, 08:30:23 AM
Last picture looks like a showroom shot!  Nice enough for inside the house too- favorite part of those chairs besides the easy sit; mini-table under each arm!  Coffee/Bourbon have a classy place to rest too- :likebutton:
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on June 26, 2018, 10:50:00 AM
Last picture looks like a showroom shot!  Nice enough for inside the house too- favorite part of those chairs besides the easy sit; mini-table under each arm!  Coffee/Bourbon have a classy place to rest too- :likebutton:
Hmmm  :likebutton:
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: stlaser on June 26, 2018, 11:07:37 AM
You know, find a couple retailers and you could probably find the farm off of these. Add a couple nice optional added value features and you could easily pull $500 a pair retail. Just a thought....
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on June 26, 2018, 11:16:22 AM
You know, find a couple retailers and you could probably find the farm off of these. Add a couple nice optional added value features and you could easily pull $500 a pair retail. Just a thought....
$500 a pair!
That much?
Well, thinking about it, the labor is there, and the wood if I had to pay for it is somewhere from $2.50-$3.00 a board foot...
But this wood looks better than the stuff I have seen for sale, and thicker. Starting with a 1" thick board, it only takes a single pass on each side, not too deep to get it glass smooth, less than a 1/4 inch for sure, so I am a bit thicker than 3/4" thick I'd say.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: BobbyB on June 26, 2018, 01:55:18 PM
$500 a pair!
That much?

All in the wording of the ad. Much like the overuse of the word tactical to sell items.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: moto123 on June 26, 2018, 01:56:08 PM
Actually I think $500 a pair is a reasonable price compared to what is out there in the market.  If you are able to pre-finish the boards and ship it in a box that just needs final assembly it would be pretty awesome.

Do the financials work to provide some extra income?  Sort of.  It helps that the wood is essentially free.  But it really depends on how you value your time.  How many hours would you have in each pair of chairs?  Just for round numbers, if you have $100 in actual costs for each set (hardware set and fuel / maintenance of tools) and assume you spend 8 hours per set at $25 per hour.  The cost of them is $300 each.  "profit" $200 each.  Now you sell 8 sets per month, it would initially appear you would pay yourself a salary of $1600 plus the business would profit $1600 each month.  Seems awesome at first, but not so fast, if your total sales is $4000, you will end up paying significant taxes on that.  Something on the order of 40% since you are the owner and employee of the business.  Yes you can deduct actual expenses, but of the $100 per set that might only be $50 in usable receipts.  So your deductions total $400 out of $4000, $3600 taxable income.  40% taxes is $1440.  So of your $1600 in initial profit after paying yourself for hours worked, you lose $1440 to taxes resulting in $160 each month of true profit.  The good news is that you can pay yourself a salary and end up with a little profit on top.  But it's not a huge amount.  Unless your time spent is essentially free.  Then you are banking $160 in profit plus $1600 salary.  You're not going to get rich doing that, but it's a nice way to keep money flowing in for farm expenses.  If you are able to build each set of chairs in 4 hours it looks even better, getting paid $50 per hour.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on June 26, 2018, 04:30:45 PM
Well, I have a good retirement salary that is beyond adequate os unless I am motivated by money, and I'm not, the numbers are just not there. At times in the past I made in excess of a grand a day, continuously and that didn't impress me either. (The wife liked it though! ;-)

My time means a great deal to me, and if I can spend it making these chairs to give away as gifts, they have even greater meaning to me. Not saying if pressed, I would not make some for a fee, but my intention is to just make them as best as I can, then give them away.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: stlaser on June 26, 2018, 04:54:38 PM
You know, find a couple retailers and you could probably find the farm off of these. Add a couple nice optional added value features and you could easily pull $500 a pair retail. Just a thought....
$500 a pair!
That much?
Well, thinking about it, the labor is there, and the wood if I had to pay for it is somewhere from $2.50-$3.00 a board foot...
But this wood looks better than the stuff I have seen for sale, and thicker. Starting with a 1" thick board, it only takes a single pass on each side, not too deep to get it glass smooth, less than a 1/4 inch for sure, so I am a bit thicker than 3/4" thick I'd say.

I live in hippy land, you?d sell them for $500 a pair all day long out here....
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Bigdave_185 on June 28, 2018, 02:16:12 PM
I am gonna go ahead and say in Utah that would be to much for sure


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Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on June 28, 2018, 08:14:37 PM
Just the same, as I really don't want to build a hundred of these things!

I actually set out to build several items. First up was a good adirondack chair, which I think I found

Next up is a table to place between two chairs, then a adirondack style rocking chair, and finally a glider rocker for the outdoors. I have a design for the rocking chair I am considering:
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on July 01, 2018, 03:47:08 PM
Picture-Free Update:

First of all, Sorry Nate for butt texting you. Apparently while I was getting bounced around inside the CTL, I was typing out messages in gibberish to Nate! Amazing how junked up these I-Phones are.

So after a couple more days farmside, in some really high/humid temps, we actually got a lot done. Weed control is working with some Ag style weed killer. Everything I sprayed is dead, dried up and blowing away!

We sawed up some more Cedar logs and I departed with twenty of so Cedar boards of maybe 8" width and averaging ten feet in length. With those I'll finish the four adirondack chairs and tool up for the first two cedar rocking chairs which is next. After that a Cedar glider...

One of the prerangers mowed about 15 acres like a lawn, and I managed to cut the overhanging branches and smaller trees away from another 100 yards of fence line.

During the hottest day, I set one of the prerangers making chips out of waste from the sawmill and after creating a five foot tall pile of the stuff, that operation is about complete.

Meanwhile while I was building their character, I sat in the AC inside Chief and dug a whole bunch more on the pond, then sat in more AC inside Spud to move the small mountains of dirt.

I;m not sure what size bucket is on the excavator, but I'd say it's easily over a yard and measures something just under 48" wide. I can create a pile of dirt in twenty minutes that takes me two hours to clear off with the loader! And that loader is grabbing a yard at a time.

Without pics, it is hard to "picture," but I cleared off a corner between two fields in like twenty minutes. That Kobelco 250 is so powerful that i can simply push over a 35'-40' tree in seconds simply by extending the stick with the bucket maybe ten feet off the ground. The area I cleared was where there was a pretty good drop off. All the dirt excavated from digging went into filling that in creating a 30 foot wide shelf upon which I will gravel in a new farm road. The area of the old road is now a big hole and will soon be filled with water from my ever expanding pond project.

Speaking of water, the ran catchment system all but topped the tanks off! They are holding maybe 600-620 gallons out of a possible 660 max fill! So that system really works and all from a 12 X 16 roof! The water is now so fresh, having diluted the old city water that I had added some bleach to, to combat bacteria and algae formation.

More and more this place is moving toward actually being able to support life without the need of anything outside the gate.

Someday...
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Bigdave_185 on July 01, 2018, 08:38:38 PM
What is the plan once water tanks have come to full capacity? I don?t remember if you built in a overflow or a shut off from the roof or which


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Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Nate on July 01, 2018, 08:40:39 PM
no worries on the txting, I figured I would let you know before you sent some to other folks.

instead of using bleach don, get you some of this:

https://www.google.com/search?source=hp&ei=PnM5W4ezO8S4sgXylqrQDA&q=calcium+hypochlorite&oq=calcium+hypoc&gs_l=psy-ab.3.0.0l10.923.4678.0.7454.13.10.0.3.3.0.124.1024.5j5.10.0....0...1c.1.64.psy-ab..0.13.1084...0i131k1.0.zZOJ-FsbT4I

and heres how we used it as far as us army field sanitation went:

https://www.google.com/search?source=hp&ei=lnM5W8LFLsrIsQXMvLuoDg&q=calcium+hypochlorite+us+army+field+sanitation&oq=calcium+hypochlorite+us+army+field+sanitation&gs_l=psy-ab.3...1469.7276.0.7700.26.22.0.0.0.0.449.2277.4j12j4-1.17.0....0...1c.1.64.psy-ab..9.13.1496...0j33i22i29i30k1j33i21k1j33i160k1.0.LxztaZ2tDVg

its the actual active ingredient in bleach......the only down side of bleach is that is diluted down to like .0005% or some tiny amount like that.  1 MRE spoon of the real stuff will sanitize a water buffalo amount of water.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on July 02, 2018, 10:05:09 AM
What is the plan once water tanks have come to full capacity? I don?t remember if you built in a overflow or a shut off from the roof or which


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Dave,
I'm just keeping it simple. The tanks will simply spill out over the top. I have the entire building set atop a base of 4" of #57 coarse gravel, so it will simply find its way out.
There are no complex electrics in there nor plumbing. It is essentially water and moisture resistant stuff. We will soon see if I am right about it
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on July 02, 2018, 10:07:27 AM
no worries on the txting, I figured I would let you know before you sent some to other folks.

instead of using bleach don, get you some of this:

https://www.google.com/search?source=hp&ei=PnM5W4ezO8S4sgXylqrQDA&q=calcium+hypochlorite&oq=calcium+hypoc&gs_l=psy-ab.3.0.0l10.923.4678.0.7454.13.10.0.3.3.0.124.1024.5j5.10.0....0...1c.1.64.psy-ab..0.13.1084...0i131k1.0.zZOJ-FsbT4I

and heres how we used it as far as us army field sanitation went:

https://www.google.com/search?source=hp&ei=lnM5W8LFLsrIsQXMvLuoDg&q=calcium+hypochlorite+us+army+field+sanitation&oq=calcium+hypochlorite+us+army+field+sanitation&gs_l=psy-ab.3...1469.7276.0.7700.26.22.0.0.0.0.449.2277.4j12j4-1.17.0....0...1c.1.64.psy-ab..9.13.1496...0j33i22i29i30k1j33i21k1j33i160k1.0.LxztaZ2tDVg

its the actual active ingredient in bleach......the only down side of bleach is that is diluted down to like .0005% or some tiny amount like that.  1 MRE spoon of the real stuff will sanitize a water buffalo amount of water.
Good one Sarge!
I'm on it!
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Nate on July 02, 2018, 11:07:57 AM
no worries on the txting, I figured I would let you know before you sent some to other folks.

instead of using bleach don, get you some of this:

https://www.google.com/search?source=hp&ei=PnM5W4ezO8S4sgXylqrQDA&q=calcium+hypochlorite&oq=calcium+hypoc&gs_l=psy-ab.3.0.0l10.923.4678.0.7454.13.10.0.3.3.0.124.1024.5j5.10.0....0...1c.1.64.psy-ab..0.13.1084...0i131k1.0.zZOJ-FsbT4I

and heres how we used it as far as us army field sanitation went:

https://www.google.com/search?source=hp&ei=lnM5W8LFLsrIsQXMvLuoDg&q=calcium+hypochlorite+us+army+field+sanitation&oq=calcium+hypochlorite+us+army+field+sanitation&gs_l=psy-ab.3...1469.7276.0.7700.26.22.0.0.0.0.449.2277.4j12j4-1.17.0....0...1c.1.64.psy-ab..9.13.1496...0j33i22i29i30k1j33i21k1j33i160k1.0.LxztaZ2tDVg

its the actual active ingredient in bleach......the only down side of bleach is that is diluted down to like .0005% or some tiny amount like that.  1 MRE spoon of the real stuff will sanitize a water buffalo amount of water.
Good one Sarge!
I'm on it!

and for others, heres the 2 links to the realman knowledge base:

how to make your own homemade bleach:  http://real-man-truckworks-and-survival.com/index.php?topic=437.0

field sanitation manual: http://real-man-truckworks-and-survival.com/index.php?topic=73.new#new
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on July 07, 2018, 10:08:26 PM
After viewing Tex's thread on hos spa/survival/hide site, I am ashamed to even mention I did anything.

His work is spectacular and top notch...always

Mine, not so much...

I have some really big things going on down there at the moment, and the camera battery died, just as I started taking some pics.

First of all, the water collection system completely topped off to the point of over-running. Showers from that fresh rain water are really nice. Gentler is how I'd describe them.

We removed some more large Cedars and turned them into 6 X 6 beams for the cedar retaining wall that has started.

While that is ongoing, I continue to run Chief for 20 minutes, creating two enormous grub piles that then take the Spud machine two hours to scoop and haul off.

The excavation is the ongoing expansion of the pond which continues to get larger with every visit. I have created a large deck just above the water after removing 8+ feet of overburden. My "bob-the-builder" pile of boulders has grown quite large, plenty enough for another retaining wall or two.

The shelf/flat spot I created adjacent to the pond has also grown quite large, maybe 30 feet deep, 80 feet wide and standing at an average height of say, 14 feet. That's a lot of dirt, and the future base for the new road which will have to wrap around the pond on the uphill side.

We burned one of the new piles of tree parts, and cleared more of the sides of the field adjacent to the saw mill, pushing one spot back 30 or more feet. The place is really opening up, and cleaning up as well!
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on August 05, 2018, 03:09:16 PM
OK, another update

I spent two days on maintenance, mostly cutting grass, killing weeds, and cleaning up.

But I did get some time to dig some more on the pond. It is going well, it's just a lot of work. I literally created a grub pile with the excavator in about 30 minutes of digging that, this time took about 8 hours of CTL work to clear, and sort out the boulders for use elsewhere and later on.

I am enlarging the shelf, first having to clear massive trees and process them for the mill, then pushing down the smaller trees with Chief. I scored some nice Cedar timber from the deal which completes the need for 6" X 6" posts for the retaining wall. So far, cost of that wall is $0!.

But from all the work, some Carnage occurred!

CARREP: While working a 15 foot tall grub pile of dirt and rock, a decent sized, 200-300 pound rock tumbled down, bounced off the loader bucket and came through the windshield to its final resting place in my glass covered lap. I had so many cuts, I must have looked like a piece of meat. Everywhere a little shard of glass struck me with force, it punched a hole in the epidermis. It was quite a trick getting out of the cab, just moving about was cutting me up more. So, yea, I'll need a new windscreen and a few plastic parts. Plan to go down farmside shortly to load Spud up and tote it off to eh Orange tractor store!
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: TexasRedNeck on August 05, 2018, 03:22:10 PM
Maybe an Earnhardt bar is in order?


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Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: stlaser on August 05, 2018, 03:23:59 PM
 :popcorn:
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Bigdave_185 on August 05, 2018, 04:07:44 PM
As glad as we are that you are not seriously injured.


No trusty cell phone photo of this? Why don?t we have a keyed power source for a camera on everything you drive?




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Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: KensAuto on August 05, 2018, 04:24:16 PM
If you described it as"bad", I'm going to assume the actual event would be described as a horrible disaster. Pics are needed for verification of my theory.

To go with that theory, we will need an address to the hospital so we have a place to send cards filled with prayers, tears and Spud reconstruction funds.

Seriously tho, hope you're ok. The being trapped part would make it a little scary.

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Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: stlaser on August 05, 2018, 04:27:34 PM
You know, it?s Don so we need to look at it via a different lense. This is like a personal record I believe, you know owning a piece of equipment this long without a major break of said machine.  :popcorn:
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: TexasRedNeck on August 05, 2018, 04:33:55 PM
It was probably the size of a coconut......

:wink


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Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: JR on August 05, 2018, 05:09:16 PM
No report for a month, then this with no pics!!

Hope you wern't there alone when it happened, this could be an eye opener.

Sounds like you are OK, buts thats a nice rock you dropped on yourself.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: JR on August 05, 2018, 05:14:10 PM
Would lexan be a better window?
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: stlaser on August 05, 2018, 06:31:03 PM
Would lexan be a better window?

FIFY

Would bullet resistance glass like at a 7-11 in Chicago that is 6? thick be a better window?  :tongue:
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: KensAuto on August 05, 2018, 08:43:33 PM
I was going to say, only if Lexan knows how to drive a skid steer. ..but I would never say something like that. :popcorn

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Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on August 06, 2018, 01:09:46 PM
The glass is going to be a point of some energetic discussion about to come up. I thought I purchased the blast proof front windshield designed to run forestry devices, since they fling large football sized chunks of wood at some pretty fearsome velocities.

But this rock was maybe 10" thick and the size of a small coffee table, so I doubt anything would have stopped it from crushing inside the cab.

Yes, there is other "Car-wreck" like damage like bent stuff and shattered plastic, but I just plan to repair everything back to like new.

I'll get a pic
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: JR on August 06, 2018, 01:22:44 PM
A nice 1/2 sheet of lexan would not break. Scratch yes, but not break.

Now to tease Don a little about pics. Same story when he flipped the little motorcycle, no pics. Kinda sounds like H emails that are missing, russians have some I bet!
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on August 06, 2018, 01:40:00 PM
Holy Flippin Crap!

I got good news!

Turns out I have insurance!

Who-da thought!

Kubota really treats its customers right. I purchased the insurance at time of purchase and now armed with a claim number, I just called my dealership, and they are going to pick it up, repair it, and bring it back all for my $250 deductible!

YIPPEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :laugh: :cool: :laugh: :cool: :likebutton: :likebutton: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: JR on August 06, 2018, 01:46:07 PM
Pictures???  :likebutton: :likebutton: :beercheers: :beercheers: :cool: :cool:
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: stlaser on August 06, 2018, 01:48:11 PM
No kidding? They must not have known you..... :popcorn:
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on August 06, 2018, 02:02:05 PM
I tell ya, I must be doing something right! Seems the Lord has blessed me on this one!
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: cudakidd53 on August 08, 2018, 08:34:40 PM
Glad to hear that you HAD insurance.......policy under review while repairs are made and a full investigation, starting with the rolled jeep on the Tank course at Ft. Knox........Great Candy Bar Fire.......Horizontal Levitation while working on Square D.... :facepalm:

Seriously, glad you're ok and insured - heck, hide side pick-up is worth it alone!
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on August 09, 2018, 11:24:21 AM
Glad to hear that you HAD insurance.......policy under review while repairs are made and a full investigation, starting with the rolled jeep on the Tank course at Ft. Knox........Great Candy Bar Fire.......Horizontal Levitation while working on Square D.... :facepalm:

Seriously, glad you're ok and insured - heck, hide side pick-up is worth it alone!
I think you're gonna be amazed the next time you stop by the place

BRW, your camper a 30 amp plug?

I thought I'd run a couple of plug ins out for campers, one 30 and one 50amp should cover most all units me thinks.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Nate on August 09, 2018, 01:51:17 PM
how many are you thinking of putting in?
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on August 09, 2018, 02:09:23 PM
how many are you thinking of putting in?
One of each near the shed and maybe the same at a different location nearby

Depends on how I add in electrical power on the off grid system

Have a very cool power generation system coming up as a cold weather project...
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: cudakidd53 on August 09, 2018, 02:42:45 PM
Yes on 30amp plug - spending 25 days living in that camper it?s amazing that AC, Microwave and coffee pot ran on that simultaneously!
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Nate on August 09, 2018, 04:48:47 PM
how many are you thinking of putting in?
One of each near the shed and maybe the same at a different location nearby

Depends on how I add in electrical power on the off grid system

Have a very cool power generation system coming up as a cold weather project...

is there a spot just a little ways from that whole area that you could flatten out, drop a little gravel, run a few electrical lines and maybe some sort of a sewer tank system?  basically make a spot for campers that is just away from the main area as to not clutter it up ?
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on August 09, 2018, 07:19:28 PM
how many are you thinking of putting in?
One of each near the shed and maybe the same at a different location nearby

Depends on how I add in electrical power on the off grid system

Have a very cool power generation system coming up as a cold weather project...

is there a spot just a little ways from that whole area that you could flatten out, drop a little gravel, run a few electrical lines and maybe some sort of a sewer tank system?  basically make a spot for campers that is just away from the main area as to not clutter it up ?
Yep, sure could Nate...Watcha thinkin'?
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Nate on August 09, 2018, 09:08:22 PM
what I am trying to get at, is a few things.

1. have you sat down and actually sketched out exactly how you want the hide/farm/or whatever it is becoming now to be when complete?  just asking, as that's something that shouldn't be shared for the world to know.

2. I understand "YOUR" camper being where its at, because that is the only one down there and that is also serving double duty as a command center.  is it smart to have campers kind of just pulling up where ever and being scattered all over with no sort of organization?

3. here is a picture not to scale of what I was trying to propose/recommend
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: TexasRedNeck on August 09, 2018, 09:46:05 PM
Did I mention I?m pretty good with electrical.....jus sayin.  And I work cheap


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Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Bob/OlallaWa on August 09, 2018, 11:46:11 PM
here is a picture not to scale of what I was trying to propose/recommend



I would agree with the concept, however before you start developing a small camping site, you do need to think about pull through or back in sites. Pull throughs don't need as much road width or free movement area to get into or out of. 30 Amp sites wouldn't cost nearly as much to run power but the bigger campers would suffer in the summer as you can't run both air conditioners on 30 amps. 30 AMP needs hot, neutral, and ground where as 50 AMP needs two hot, a neutral, and a ground. 50 AMP is two 50amp circuits where 30 amp is only one30 amp so wire size would be larger with the 50's. Site size needs to be large enough to open slides on both sides of the camper and long enough to accept larger trailers/5th wheels. The road  into out of doesn't need to be level but the pads should be close to level side to side and not too far off end to end. With back in sites you would only need one road but the rigs need room to move into out of the sites. More angle means less room needed to back into the site. Younger guys there for training could get by with a tent and an outhouse, older guys like me and a few others would need the full meal deal if longer than a couple days.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on August 10, 2018, 10:10:42 AM
Did I mention I?m pretty good with electrical.....jus sayin.  And I work cheap


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Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on August 10, 2018, 10:12:01 AM
what I am trying to get at, is a few things.

1. have you sat down and actually sketched out exactly how you want the hide/farm/or whatever it is becoming now to be when complete?  just asking, as that's something that shouldn't be shared for the world to know.

2. I understand "YOUR" camper being where its at, because that is the only one down there and that is also serving double duty as a command center.  is it smart to have campers kind of just pulling up where ever and being scattered all over with no sort of organization?

3. here is a picture not to scale of what I was trying to propose/recommend
Nater,

I have a pretty comprehensive "Conceptual" plan

Which is not for public consumption

But ya, I want room for friends

and other things
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on August 10, 2018, 10:15:30 AM
here is a picture not to scale of what I was trying to propose/recommend



I would agree with the concept, however before you start developing a small camping site, you do need to think about pull through or back in sites. Pull throughs don't need as much road width or free movement area to get into or out of. 30 Amp sites wouldn't cost nearly as much to run power but the bigger campers would suffer in the summer as you can't run both air conditioners on 30 amps. 30 AMP needs hot, neutral, and ground where as 50 AMP needs two hot, a neutral, and a ground. 50 AMP is two 50amp circuits where 30 amp is only one30 amp so wire size would be larger with the 50's. Site size needs to be large enough to open slides on both sides of the camper and long enough to accept larger trailers/5th wheels. The road  into out of doesn't need to be level but the pads should be close to level side to side and not too far off end to end. With back in sites you would only need one road but the rigs need room to move into out of the sites. More angle means less room needed to back into the site. Younger guys there for training could get by with a tent and an outhouse, older guys like me and a few others would need the full meal deal if longer than a couple days.
Bob, not going for anything commercial that would be used by many. More of a hitching post for you knuckleheads if we ever do anything at the farm, or a bug-out site for peeps who I would invite. In any event, fields all around or, possibility of my using one of my machines to hook to and tow camper to exact location.

I have tracked vehicles now that have no problem with either traction nor heavy weight.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Nate on August 10, 2018, 10:44:06 AM
what I am trying to get at, is a few things.

1. have you sat down and actually sketched out exactly how you want the hide/farm/or whatever it is becoming now to be when complete?  just asking, as that's something that shouldn't be shared for the world to know.

2. I understand "YOUR" camper being where its at, because that is the only one down there and that is also serving double duty as a command center.  is it smart to have campers kind of just pulling up where ever and being scattered all over with no sort of organization?

3. here is a picture not to scale of what I was trying to propose/recommend
Nater,

I have a pretty comprehensive "Conceptual" plan

Which is not for public consumption

But ya, I want room for friends

and other things

 :likebutton:
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Bob/OlallaWa on August 10, 2018, 11:14:02 AM
Hey Don, guess I should have known that  :facepalm: . Was thinking you might be setting up for a training school or? Poor RV site is still in my mind as I was almost trapped with no way out a couple weeks ago.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Bigdave_185 on August 10, 2018, 12:32:57 PM
Just turn it into a KOA with fire pits please.  Little cabins that you can rent out.


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Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on August 10, 2018, 03:26:08 PM
Update: Kubota is down there picking up Spud to repair the damage caused by the tumbling rock
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: cudakidd53 on August 11, 2018, 12:39:40 PM
There's been so much change there since I visited, I'm not certain of what's exactly where.  With that in mind, Nate's drawing could work inverted; but what I remembered of the lay-out, along the treeline of the outhouse is potentially more level or opposite there, uphill of the final resting place of the orange saw, stacking uphill towards the entrance road.  Uphill of the house would require step like pads cut in the hillside to level them out.  Treeline location allows a rapid slip into the woods, both sides of drive allow converging fire towards the entrance with ease.  Keeping guests/invitees away from the command post, keeps loud snoring from waking you or the Frau should that be a concern!  Raise the house and fill in the foundation, and that site would level fairly easily depending upon how you want things arranged.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on August 11, 2018, 05:32:01 PM
So, got the CTL, "Spud" over to the Kubota dealer. It awaits parts and repairs at the moment
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on August 11, 2018, 05:33:37 PM
So, the objective today was to pull routine maintenance on the "Road" into the place. There have been a couple trees blown down which had to be moved, some stones as well, and cutting back on the vegetation
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on August 11, 2018, 05:36:47 PM
I no sooner got all of that cut back and cleared up that I motored back and topped off the fuel tank of the 4720. Then I started bush hogging the field adjacent to the pond construction. In a skippy second, the cutter flung a blade bringing the operation to a screamin' halt!

CARREP: One wiped out blade retaining bolt/Nut and a one bladed, W A Y out of balance rotary cutter!
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on August 11, 2018, 05:39:26 PM
Then I noticed that something had grabbed onto the safety chain retainer rod. It was mostly pulled out which caused the loss of a lot of the safety chain.

Man, can ya do anything without something breaking, falling apart, not starting, breaking down, or come up missing???
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on August 11, 2018, 05:42:34 PM
OK, enough of all that nonsense, I figured I'd try settling into one of my chairs on the deck and take a snooze.

I am happy to report, that worked! Woke up just in time to pack it in before another thunderstorm hit.

Place is looking pretty good for the minimal maintenance it has gotten the past month
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on August 11, 2018, 05:46:43 PM
^^^^ Hmmm, just noticed I have forgotten to paint that door trim green...

OK, so the pond just fills right back up no matter how much I dig out of it. In this pic, you can see the first level "Shelf" I am excavating that is maybe a few inches above the water line. Once that is gone back another 75 feet, I'll come back in and excavate that down another eight feet, hopefully in the dry, then bust the levee and drastically lower the water level

I need that to happen so I can dig down and plant a drain pipe to manage the water level. My hope is that the thing stays fairly topped off year round.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on August 11, 2018, 05:57:09 PM
Chief is a freakin Tyrannosaur!

That thing goes through dirt, clay and limestone like me eating down my second helpin' of crab cakes!
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on August 11, 2018, 05:58:20 PM
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Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Bigdave_185 on August 11, 2018, 07:23:54 PM
You have a massive pile of rock wall parts started oh my gosh!!!

Looks good


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Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: KensAuto on August 11, 2018, 08:31:02 PM
Man oh man that carpet of grass looks amazing.

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Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: TexasRedNeck on August 11, 2018, 09:31:47 PM
Don that amazes me. You could dig to China here and never hit a rock like that.


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Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: dave945 on August 11, 2018, 10:16:39 PM
Up here in Kentucky it is a major crop. My fields are growing them constantly.


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Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: JR on August 12, 2018, 01:54:19 AM
Looks great Don, keep it up. Maybe a nice platform of that rock around the lip of the pond might toughen it up some?

You break things pretty consistent, have that going for you.

I have noticed that naps come very easy these days.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on August 12, 2018, 02:24:12 PM
You have a massive pile of rock wall parts started oh my gosh!!!

Looks good


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Sure do!

But get this, this rusty colored Limestone that comes out in the rectangular blocks is sought after by landscapers. They pay from a hundred up to and over $500 for a single piece!
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on August 12, 2018, 02:29:13 PM
Looks great Don, keep it up. Maybe a nice platform of that rock around the lip of the pond might toughen it up some?

You break things pretty consistent, have that going for you.

I have noticed that naps come very easy these days.
I was thinking of using them JR

I thought once I excavated the general size and shape of the pond, I'd go down a foot or two and dig a three foot wide shelf around the thing, then stack these boulders on top to make it appear as though there is a rocky hole instead of a traditional pond. I plan to throw Koi in this pond which I plan to breed and sell some day. The rocky nooks and crannies are good for the fry

I used to do Koi. Had tens of thousands of dollars of them. Some getting on 30" length and brilliant colors. I learned the business, and took note that there are no notable American breeders who breed the expensive Japanese, Chinese and Korean koi. One pair can create a hundred or more a year of which maybe 25-50 make it to being 8" long in two years. THose 8" fish would wholesale from $50 to $100 ea...
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on August 12, 2018, 02:29:47 PM
Up here in Kentucky it is a major crop. My fields are growing them constantly.


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Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on August 12, 2018, 02:31:55 PM
Hey, if anyone has a need for a special mantle or wood beam or decorative something like that, contact me as I will soon be sellin' them or maybe givin' them away.

Currently collectin' beams and things to clog up my sawmill
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Bob/OlallaWa on August 12, 2018, 03:06:02 PM
All those rocks along the top of the pond will give the heron and other fish eating birds a place to stand. I tried fish in our small waterfall pond and the birds kept the fish sellers in business. I managed to relocate a couple heron but the neighbor and sheriff decided I wouldn't be shooting any more of them.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Bigdave_185 on August 12, 2018, 03:15:46 PM
I would be interested in a log beam for a mantel.    Let?s talk


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Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: stlaser on August 12, 2018, 03:59:54 PM
All those rocks along the top of the pond will give the heron and other fish eating birds a place to stand. I tried fish in our small waterfall pond and the birds kept the fish sellers in business. I managed to relocate a couple heron but the neighbor and sheriff decided I wouldn't be shooting any more of them.

 :popcorn:

There?s a good story here I bet!
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on August 12, 2018, 04:47:12 PM
I would be interested in a log beam for a mantel.    Let?s talk


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Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on August 12, 2018, 04:49:45 PM
All those rocks along the top of the pond will give the heron and other fish eating birds a place to stand. I tried fish in our small waterfall pond and the birds kept the fish sellers in business. I managed to relocate a couple heron but the neighbor and sheriff decided I wouldn't be shooting any more of them.
Now, I have had several outdoor Koi ponds in the past. The secret to defeating the blue heron is to create vertical pond walls where they cannot get purchase like in a sloping bank arrangement. If they stand on the top rock, then they can't arch over to pick at the fish. Same with Racoons, makes it tougher on them. but then again Scout GSD's makes it hard on coons too!
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Bob/OlallaWa on August 12, 2018, 06:09:37 PM

That is true Don if the pond is deep enough and the fish stay out of the top water. My pond area is a composite stock trough maybe 2.5ft deep and the heron stood at the top and picked off the fish when they came toward the surface. 

Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on August 12, 2018, 10:36:24 PM

That is true Don if the pond is deep enough and the fish stay out of the top water. My pond area is a composite stock trough maybe 2.5ft deep and the heron stood at the top and picked off the fish when they came toward the surface. 


Copy that Bob
I am no expert on the blue heron species, except that a .22 will put the smack down on em in a quick minute! Errrr, I heard that was the case...

Of my outdoor ponds I made one 8 feet deep. A blue Heron during his brief lifespan started visiting, but the Koi always stayed deep. Good for their safety, but not so good for the koi owner who actually wanted to see the fish every once in awhile.

The farm pond will mostly be 3-5 feet deep with a deep sump going down 10-12 feet
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Bigdave_185 on August 12, 2018, 10:40:12 PM
Don can you get a photo of said logs you are looking to possibly part with.   


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Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on August 12, 2018, 10:46:31 PM
Don can you get a photo of said logs you are looking to possibly part with.   


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Sure Dave, but if you look back in the thread somewhere where I detail the corral on the inside of my barn, you can see the hewn beams and those logs which are stacked. I will saw them up into any size someone needs. That timber is 100+ year old logs of all kinds of species.

Then the main ridge beam is a monster and over 30 feet long. Would have loved to see the tree that thing came from. I could cut out a 8-10 foot section

I have a custom builder here willing to take all of it. upwards of $12 a board foot for the good stuff, and $500 for a 8' piece of hewn weathered beam.

I wouldn't charge that for anyone on this site, but I was just trying to give an idea about what I have. Of the big logs, I can mill anything you or anyone wants. Want a 15" X 10" thick X 8' long piece of white oak from the 1800's? I have it right now!
Title: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Bigdave_185 on August 12, 2018, 11:35:00 PM
My concern is transport/shipping.   I would be looking for a few 6 foot long 10x10 ish size.

Trying to talk myself into a road trip for larger use. I?ll screen shot a photo of what momma wants in our living room
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Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: stlaser on August 12, 2018, 11:40:43 PM
Dave, truck freight them. It?s not that expensive, only question is if they will allow it due to possible bugs? Idk, I ship steel.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Bigdave_185 on August 12, 2018, 11:42:17 PM
Dave, truck freight them. It?s not that expensive, only question is if they will allow it due to possible bugs? Idk, I ship steel.

https://www.upack.com/lp/2012/quote.asp?refnum=googleabf&c=G/BRAND/US&g=E/abf%20relocube&m=exact&k=abf%20relocube&ad=225607399121&gclid=Cj0KCQjwtb_bBRCFARIsAO5fVvFDZdBEv_NoTMVKSDkqk4R40J2aAWmEP-iSXKdST4hbG8_dpZmMUE8aAq3QEALw_wcB



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Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on August 13, 2018, 07:31:30 AM
10 X 10's are no problem

When are you needing them?

I will get into a log there sooner or later and will photo what it looks like opened up. I think the cooler part of it would be the story behind it. Road trip would be awesome. Spend a night down there farmside...I might even get some work out of ya!
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Bigdave_185 on August 13, 2018, 07:43:05 AM
@ 25 hours of drive time and roughly $1200 in furs only. I thinking a shipping pod would be far better served. 


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Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: stlaser on August 13, 2018, 08:03:41 AM
Two words, Nebraska or Kansas....,
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Bigdave_185 on August 13, 2018, 09:01:48 AM
Right.    So talking with a coworker who has used the shipping containers,  he says it?s usually 3000 pounds in the max for the smaller 8 foot long boxes,  for about $600 pending the travel distance.  So if Don were to stack one of these about half full with some of those solid beams and it be picked up and delivered to Utah.  That makes it more usable and cost affective.   However there are a few of the other things that might be worth looking into?  Anyone else in this side of the country interested?  Can these be sourced closer to home?

Need Dons zip code to figure out shipping costs


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Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Nate on August 13, 2018, 09:53:21 AM
dave, I have used similar things when i moved, and your not going to be able to do anything for under probably $3k...?.that also means that don would have to load that himself
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: stlaser on August 13, 2018, 09:55:02 AM
Put it on a skid, wrap it up (covered in cardboard) and I bet I can get you a freight quote of $600 or less on it.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on August 13, 2018, 11:51:19 AM
Right.    So talking with a coworker who has used the shipping containers,  he says it?s usually 3000 pounds in the max for the smaller 8 foot long boxes,  for about $600 pending the travel distance.  So if Don were to stack one of these about half full with some of those solid beams and it be picked up and delivered to Utah.  That makes it more usable and cost affective.   However there are a few of the other things that might be worth looking into?  Anyone else in this side of the country interested?  Can these be sourced closer to home?

Need Dons zip code to figure out shipping costs


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Dave,

Not to put too much of a point on it, but what would you need with all that timber? If I highly discounted it (Willing to) it would still cost a fortune for that much. This stuff ain't fir 2X4's... Furniture/cabinet grade 100+ year old seasoned timber...
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on August 13, 2018, 12:00:58 PM
Let me bring you back to reality:

Taken from a web site I found.

Wood Type   Plank & 1/2 Log   Finish   Shipping
Second Growth Cedar   $120 U.S. [per linear foot]   $90 U.S. each   $110 U.S. each
Old Growth Red Cedar   $145 U.S. [per linear foot]   $90 U.S. each   $110 U.S. each
Pacific Yew   $195 U.S. [per linear foot]   $170 U.S. each   $180 U.S. each
Juniper OUT OF STOCK    $245 U.S. [per linear foot]   $130 U.S. each   $130 U.S. each

Around here, a chunk of timber suitable for a rustic mantle sells for $120 ish a running foot. Again, I would love to help my friends on this site, but I think filling up a shipping container is going to get north of $10K real quick.

We should look for a nice mantle or two, and have me bubble wrap the snot out of it and ship it to ya and I'll show a lot of love.
For the general audience: I have hosted the various giveaways on this Real Man site for years now. I know those who have contributed. To those folks, I will be very kind to in return. This would be an opportunity for me to return the favor some of you showed to others in need, and I would be honored to serve you!
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: JR on August 13, 2018, 12:42:05 PM
Hey, if anyone has a need for a special mantle or wood beam or decorative something like that, contact me as I will soon be sellin' them or maybe givin' them away.

Currently collectin' beams and things to clog up my sawmill

If you weren't so far away,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Bigdave_185 on August 13, 2018, 12:42:52 PM
I think in the end it?s to much work for the return on investment for either part,   


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Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Bigdave_185 on August 13, 2018, 12:44:46 PM
How in the heck would you bubble wrap it and ups ship one beam, one section of beam as mentioned would be perfect for the front room of the house.



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Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Nate on August 13, 2018, 12:46:08 PM
depending on how bad somebody really wants it, I could make an offer of they pay my fuel,lodging and a little something for my time and I can do the transporting since I live almost in the middle of you 2?!
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Bigdave_185 on August 13, 2018, 02:12:20 PM
I would almost pay that just to spend a little time with you sweet cheeks


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Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: TexasRedNeck on August 13, 2018, 05:47:02 PM
Wonder what a timber mantle would look like mounted in my shipping container....... LOL


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Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: cudakidd53 on August 13, 2018, 06:33:36 PM
If you do that Nate, I want you to load up your smoker grill, plug it into your 120v outlet and make some of your delicious looking bbq while you?re driving and pull in here for lunch, reload the grill and make it to Dons by dinner. Overnight there and reload the grill stopping back here for an overnight where I?m sure we could coax Bobby south for some ?I hate you? meal and Makers. We can unwrap the mantle and personalize it for Dave and reload it and send you off with breakfast in time to make it back to Nebraska to sleep in your own bed for a night before you and Norm head West to the Bee-hive state where who knows what adventure awaits!
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on August 13, 2018, 08:43:54 PM
How in the heck would you bubble wrap it and ups ship one beam, one section of beam as mentioned would be perfect for the front room of the house.



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I imagine one could bubble wrap it, then encase it in a plywood box, then give it to UPS
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on August 13, 2018, 08:46:47 PM
Well, so I cut it and wrap it, then drive it to Mikey in Chicago. He drives it to Norm in Nebraska. Norm drives it over to Shawn in Colorado who drives and meets Dave half way. Each of us sign it along the way and it becomes part of the future man-cave where we all meet at some future date.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Nate on August 13, 2018, 09:04:37 PM
 :popcorn:
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: KensAuto on August 13, 2018, 09:57:14 PM
Wait, where's the part where Nate stops by Ken's place?




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Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Bigdave_185 on August 13, 2018, 10:22:29 PM
Well thank the good lord for modern tec.  Me a Don decided what we would do is take a photo of the log with a high resolution camera (pre run over of tractor) and I would just take it to one of this high dollar graphics places and just get a sticker to put on my similarly shaped log for maybe forty bucks


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Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: stlaser on August 13, 2018, 11:07:52 PM
Thank goodness, the thought of having to deal with Norm and Dave in the same week was pegging my anxiety meter.... :tongue:
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Bigdave_185 on August 13, 2018, 11:17:53 PM
Hey now.  I don?t wear Sandals

My feet did just get a good cleaning by the dog Harley (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180814/162c5b60a562e89302a9398996d1f7a6.jpg)


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Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on August 14, 2018, 08:56:56 AM
Wait, where's the part where Nate stops by Ken's place?




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Sorry Ken, forgot that part...

"The brotherhood of the travelin' mantle"

Come to think of it, Ken would take it to Tex who on a bourbon tainted night and after sittin on it watching the fire die, might toss it in the fire to keep from havin' to take it up to JR. Makes me wonder if the charred remains would survive the trip over to Tate's place where he and Bob would ponder the environmental impact of this thing???
All I know is Tate's drive up to the Arctic to hand it off to Sam would be a long one, although the sleepovers in Bob's camper would be quite pleasant. And under a starry night (lasting 6 months) Sam would likely finish the job Tex started and burn it just to survive the cold!
Darned shame how this story ended...
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on August 14, 2018, 08:59:26 AM
Now, maybe I can have my thread back...










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Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Nate on August 14, 2018, 09:21:07 AM
well dang, I make the offer and get cut completely out of the deal.....???. :facepalm: :popcorn:
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: cudakidd53 on August 14, 2018, 02:36:06 PM
well dang, I make the offer and get cut completely out of the deal.....???. :facepalm: :popcorn:

Not only that Nate, but I cut Don, Bobby & myself in for bbq on the fly, and he deep 6'd that idea.......the man is clearly over worked and not very hungry!
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Bigdave_185 on August 14, 2018, 02:41:14 PM
And me still with out a fine mantel to hang on the new house


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Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: stlaser on August 14, 2018, 02:54:29 PM
Dave, what is the plan for the fireplace? Reason I ask is at our farm we had a real fireplace then put in an insert (wood burning) & we took down our nice wood mantle because of it possibly catching fire. I then had my welder who was a wrought iron guy make us a beautiful mantle with scroll work.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Bigdave_185 on August 14, 2018, 03:10:43 PM
Dave, what is the plan for the fireplace? Reason I ask is at our farm we had a real fireplace then put in an insert (wood burning) & we took down our nice wood mantle because of it possibly catching fire. I then had my welder who was a wrought iron guy make us a beautiful mantle with scroll work.
I actually don?t have any fireplace currently going in the house,  I am just poking the bear at this point.   

I am going to build a type of built in book shelf and mantle out of alder for the big tv to hang off of


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Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: BobbyB on August 14, 2018, 03:27:07 PM
I?m sure we could coax Bobby south for some ?I hate you? meal and Makers.

Not even good BBQ and I hate you meals would make me go to Chicago. I detest cities... When I go to visit family in Southern Mississippi I drove down the middle of the state to avoid Milwaukee and Chicago.

However thanks for the invite. 
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: stlaser on August 14, 2018, 04:41:35 PM
Oh, well then by all means carry on Sir!  :popcorn:
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: TexasRedNeck on August 14, 2018, 07:12:17 PM
I?d drive though he south side of Chicago at midnight in an Escalade with a Rolex dangling out the window just to get some of Nate?s Que


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Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Bob/OlallaWa on August 14, 2018, 10:38:18 PM
Charles, I think that is called night fishing.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: BobbyB on August 15, 2018, 06:56:36 AM
Oh, well then by all means carry on Sir!  :popcorn:

However assuming I get around to using my last 48 hours of vacation for actual vacation and not random things I wouldn't be against a roadtrip to Nate's area for some BBQ.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: TexasRedNeck on August 20, 2018, 08:37:35 PM
Charles, I think that is called night fishing.

:-)
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: JR on August 21, 2018, 12:44:20 AM
All this over a chunk of wood? Oh, and I have a real fireplace (rare in Ca now) that needs a mantle!
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Bigdave_185 on August 21, 2018, 12:48:10 AM
You can?t have fires in California JR.  Your neighbors would hose the whole house down before you got more than a smoke show


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Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: JR on August 21, 2018, 01:00:51 AM
You can’t have fires in California JR.  Your neighbors would hose the whole house down before you got more than a smoke show


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I am in a zone not regulated with the no burn crap!
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Bigdave_185 on August 21, 2018, 01:12:00 AM
I?ll call them and turn ya inlol


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Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: JR on August 21, 2018, 01:25:17 AM
Oh, and we already burned down the garage once.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Armalite on September 07, 2018, 11:14:54 AM
Back a few pages on the camper details.... Talking from experience on building an rv site for 10 plus units, wire the entire thing for 50 amp with 50 amp plugs.  Also add two 110 receptacles for heated water hose in winter or booster water pump.  They make a wiring harness that will allow a 30 amp to plug into a 50 amp receptacle...  Then you have no complaints from the 50 amp guys when they can't run both a/c units, coffee pot, microwave, and two big screen tvs at the same time while watching Don work!

Cheapest sewage system is fill lines going to one large tank, spilling into a second tank, then flowing out into the nearby woods... 

I'm not going to get started on the sewage requirements in NM....  :rolleyes:

Most of our spots were pull through unless a spot was taken.  Then you could either pull in and unhook, or back in and unhook, depending on which way you wanted to enter/exit the rv.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on September 08, 2018, 02:37:58 PM
Ash, hold yer horses bro

Not going to build in any camper corral

I don't even know how this all got started...Something JR or Nate started I think

Thanks anyway...
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on September 08, 2018, 02:46:02 PM
So, I was down to the Farm and back on the morning of the third day. Rain has the whole place one big slick mess and bush hogging is the order of the day to get the fields in shape for winter.

I did get Spud, the Kubota back. They modified the air intake system. It now has one of those air swirler things with an internal spinner like I bolted on Square D/ The upper engine cowling is new as well. I guess they really went after filtering the air for the engine and the cab with this factory modification

Right on queue the John Deere tractor broke down again. The little one, the 2720. The mower deck which was just repaired by J Deere under warranty has grenaded again barely 3 hours hobbs time following their repair.

It seems this 30+ HP 3 cyl tractor is incapable of mowing thick grass for any length of time without disintegrating. Anyone reading this possibly in the market, do yourself a favor and stay far away from the John Deere product line. I think they are going through what the big three auto manufacturers went through in the 70's and 80's when they were building junk. It took a big shakeup from the likes of Honda and Toyota stealing market share to cause them to wake up and get sorted. But for J Deere, now is their time of pain and many of us out here in tractor land are suffering right along with them.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: JR on September 08, 2018, 03:44:56 PM
Did that 3 hours get you where you need to be, or is another orange intervention coming along?
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: rpar86 on September 08, 2018, 04:38:07 PM
One thing I?ve learned from this thread is to stay away from JD when the time comes for me to need a tractor.


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Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Bob/OlallaWa on September 08, 2018, 08:25:37 PM
One thing I?ve learned from this thread is to stay away from JD when the time comes for me to need a tractor.


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I guess that would be true if you expose equipment to the extreme and beyond  like Don does.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: stlaser on September 08, 2018, 08:49:07 PM
One thing I?ve learned from this thread is to stay away from JD when the time comes for me to need a tractor.


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I guess that would be true if you expose equipment to the extreme and beyond  like Don does.

Keep ex piluts names Don away too!
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: JR on September 08, 2018, 10:51:26 PM
Now remember guys, he is used to having a team of repair men working on what he breaks with an unlimited budget. Now reality has set in and he pays the bill, but he plays the same.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Bob/OlallaWa on September 08, 2018, 11:01:45 PM
I think Don's only problem is he leaves "common sense" in the trailer when he gets up in the morning.. Right way and the Don's way....
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on September 09, 2018, 12:08:50 AM
I know I may be deserving of some of the critical observations, but, really, all we have been trying to do is cut heavy field grass with a heavy duty mower/tractor designed to do so.

That cutting deck is junk

I think they advertise it as their 7 iron deck. I think mine only got a 6 iron treatment!
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: cudakidd53 on September 09, 2018, 08:38:05 AM
Having actually been to the farm, I can say that the Deere constantly breaking from mowing grass is an indicator of it being JUNK ....... Now if he?s being playing beyond the field edges, that?s on Don; place is beyond mower destruction stage in the green space.

You didn?t forget about the tire destruction zone by chance Don, and try sharpening some iron by chance?
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: TexasRedNeck on September 09, 2018, 08:48:31 AM
Mowing a field of orange saws?


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Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: stlaser on September 09, 2018, 10:12:23 AM
I know I may be deserving of some of the critical observations, but, really, all we have been trying to do is cut heavy field grass with a heavy duty mower/tractor designed to do so.

That cutting deck is junk

I think they advertise it as their 7 iron deck. I think mine only got a 6 iron treatment!

7ga is roughly 3/16, thinking my 60? zero turn was that thick or thicker.... :popcorn:
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on September 16, 2018, 04:16:07 PM
Just spent three more days breaking things, betting bee stung and breaking more stuff

This installment should just be one long CARREP and I'd cover about 90% of everything that happened!

So I started day one with some bush hogging. The little John Deere tractor mower deck grenaded again, so no detail cutting, just slamming things with the big hammer 72" bush hog.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on September 16, 2018, 04:17:29 PM
Early during day two, the steering started to bind up and then the transmission of the big John Deere started not to work...Loss of fluid...
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on September 16, 2018, 04:21:12 PM
That took a new spare line (I now keep a bunch of different sizes on hand) and 4 gallons of hy-guard hydraulic fluid to get repaired.

So back at it I went. I managed to last another field before the next disaster struck
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on September 16, 2018, 04:22:50 PM
When those things come flying off, it gets real shaky immediately and can scare the stuff out of you!

But I had the left over from the last time (Or the time before that) when it happened last
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on September 16, 2018, 04:27:43 PM
But I decided not to bolt it on but keep the buggered up blade as a spare and go get another new set and new bolts

So, thinking it was an omen I messed around with Sarge a little, and got that old creature running and brought it up front to work on it. I'm about to dive in and repair the hydraulics

So come the third day, I fired up Chief and got digging on the pond. You see the remnants of Hurricane Florence will be here in a day, so I thought it would be prudent to increase the volume of the pond to accommodate all the liquid sunshine about to drop

In the picture the thing is already flooded (Can a pond be actually flooded??) part of the water surface is covering an unexcavated shelf that I was creating to work from.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on September 16, 2018, 04:33:12 PM
So I'm happily diffing along when for no other reason than just to look, I scanned the engine instruments. The water temp was pegged on HOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So I shut it off, and listened to water boiling in the radiator and started to think horrible destroyed Mitsubishi diesel engine thoughts.

So I let it cool down and then added about a gallon of anti freeze to that huge (15-20 gal???) system. Only a gallon, hmmm...

So I started poking around and quickly found two loose fan belts. Now this fan is big enough to replace a BlackHawk helicopter main rotor, so it would have been slipping some.

I burned my hands and both knees on the hot metal, exhaust, turbo, hydraulic lines and radiator, but managed to snug up the belts.

I restarted and the temp went back down to low green then settled in the center of the normal arc, so I kept digging
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on September 16, 2018, 04:40:10 PM
Around that time somewhere something came in on me at about Mach 2 and planted a solid sting on my knee!

Seriously, my knee?? Couldn't have hit me anywhere else, no, had to be my knee! That thing stung all day long, stung all night long and finally turned into an itch the next day. Now two days later it is still itching. It was this huge yellow hornet looking thing, like an inch and a half long

It wasn't as big as the pic, but looked like that thing. Man what a wallop that thing packs!
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on September 16, 2018, 04:45:45 PM
So I managed to finish digging the pond extension without further incident, and then worked on the long grub pile for a few more hours.

The Kubota performed perfectly and near the end of the day, around 1800, I had even begun shaping in the pond some

That which you see is about 1/3 of the final size of what I am shooting for.

It is only 4-5 feet deep, but I have sort of lost out on the excavation plan of digging successive holes, then digging out the walls between them. I have just been plunging the dipper stick down then curling the bucket well underwater and pulling up big bites of earth at a time. I think that bucket is somewhere around 1.5 yards, but I pull it out heaping three feet over a lot of time. I am probably averaging 2 yards per bite.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on September 16, 2018, 04:47:57 PM
This entire operation has been sled dog approved








(Some animals were harmed or dismembered during the filming of this project)
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on September 16, 2018, 04:52:54 PM
So, looking down the road, I will have to shift up the order of the projects yet again. I spent a good percentage of the summer holding down a chair from that pesky knee operation.

As a result the retaining wall I have been trying to build is still just a pipe dream.

But now comes the fall and rain, which will give way to winter

I'm afraid I can't wait any longer to get some structure up and over the saw mill. I don't want to keep that exposed to the elements, and I want to be able to saw up things even in the nasty weather, so I'll need a roof and some walls.

So, I'm thinking the next time I show up down there, I am going to test that spendy auger I purchased and plant  eight or ten posts in the ground and start framing up the next sanctuary from the weather, and wasp and spider nesting site.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: TexasRedNeck on September 16, 2018, 04:55:19 PM
Was worried you were MIA.  Glad to see the status SNAFU
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Nate on September 16, 2018, 05:36:55 PM
This entire operation has been sled dog approved








(Some animals were harmed or dismembered during the filming of this project)

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Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: KensAuto on September 16, 2018, 05:44:58 PM
Pond is looking great, and almost a lake!. The backside/dam grew in pretty good... looks like it's been there for ages.
Good to see you back in action!

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Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: JR on September 16, 2018, 07:23:47 PM
What the heck did you hit this time? You even break the kabota when your done with the JD. Did sarge run OK?

Let that puppy clear up and plant some fish in there!

Knee operation? I knew it bugged you but missed the operation part!
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Bob/OlallaWa on September 16, 2018, 08:31:53 PM
Don, with the way that dirt looks, the pond may never completely clear up. Maybe pump  water to a grassy area and let it flow slowly back into the pond or un some big filters.  Looks like lots of fine silt and clay, stays in suspension for a very long time. Good thing is it will hide the fish from the big ugly long legged birds.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on September 17, 2018, 10:04:34 AM
Don, with the way that dirt looks, the pond may never completely clear up. Maybe pump  water to a grassy area and let it flow slowly back into the pond or un some big filters.  Looks like lots of fine silt and clay, stays in suspension for a very long time. Good thing is it will hide the fish from the big ugly long legged birds.
Roger that Bob

It does stay muddy a lot

At this point I am just going to dig the snot out of it and let nature do the rest.

The other pond which I mucked out looked like that, then after the summer turned to somewhat clear greenish KY pond water.

Oh and I made the banks a vertical plunge of three feet so those long legged flyin things wouldn't have anything to stand in.

I think I'll throw a half dozen grass carp in there before winter. They keep ponds around here pretty clear. Eat weeds on the bank, algae and everything else not made of granite!
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on September 17, 2018, 10:10:33 AM
Pond is looking great, and almost a lake!. The backside/dam grew in pretty good... looks like it's been there for ages.
Good to see you back in action!

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I still have a small mountain of dirt to move yet. What you see is still just barely 1/3 of the final size of the thing. Chief and the other machines will get plenty of exercise over the winter...
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Bob/OlallaWa on September 17, 2018, 12:09:33 PM
Everything I have read about the grass carp says they do get aggressive with all the vegetation around them. Even the smaller brush hanging over the bank near the water. Out here you have to get a permit to plant them and the permit can require screening the  inlets and outlets of the lake to keep the carp from escaping into the wild. Most often the state won't allow them to be planted. Our lakes could really benefit having them eating the vegetation, as the pond weeds are taking over.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on September 17, 2018, 12:25:16 PM
Everything I have read about the grass carp says they do get aggressive with all the vegetation around them. Even the smaller brush hanging over the bank near the water. Out here you have to get a permit to plant them and the permit can require screening the  inlets and outlets of the lake to keep the carp from escaping into the wild. Most often the state won't allow them to be planted. Our lakes could really benefit having them eating the vegetation, as the pond weeds are taking over.
Around here you simply go to the farm supply and buy a few of them then toss them into your pond!
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on September 17, 2018, 12:27:46 PM
I hear they taste like mud
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: cudakidd53 on September 17, 2018, 03:04:09 PM
Just come up here Don and drive your boat fast along the rivers and they'll jump in your boat!
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: JR on September 17, 2018, 05:23:08 PM
They look like a tank and don't have that nasty sucker like most.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on September 18, 2018, 09:59:42 AM
Just come up here Don and drive your boat fast along the rivers and they'll jump in your boat!
So those things are the grass carp? From SE asia? (Vietnam??)
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on September 18, 2018, 10:01:34 AM
Found a farm that sells them...Triploid for $7 ea for a 12" fish. (Triploid: Cannot reproduce)
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on September 23, 2018, 12:00:28 PM
Not a lot to report, but a lot of work has taken place.

Bush hogging, and digging out the ever growing pond has completely gone through 100 gallons of petrol! That equates to thousands of yards of earth and boulders having been moved

It was a rainy three days, but I worked through it, taking advantage of the cooler temps to do some tree harvesting
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on September 23, 2018, 12:01:50 PM
These cedar logs produce a lot of board feet. I cut them 3/4", 1.5", 2" and 6" thickness depending on the intended purpose
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on September 23, 2018, 12:03:49 PM
For now, I am giving the rest of the tree to the fire.

I am continuing to open the area between two fields. Endgame there is two fold. Allows me to command a good view of several fields from a central location, and I'm setting up a possible future build site for a proper house, should momma want one down there
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on September 23, 2018, 12:05:54 PM
The overall pond shape is starting to take form.

After roughing in the first 8' excavation, I cut in a sloped bank down to the water level. From there I plunge the sides through clay down to the desired depth which will not be over 8 feet deep anywhere for now
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on September 23, 2018, 12:07:52 PM
I continue to unearth dozens of these huge rectangular stones which are heavily stained orange. They would all make for terrific landscape stones or as I intend, as retaining walls. I have started a second pile which has a couple hundred boulders in it already
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on September 23, 2018, 12:09:31 PM
With some ot the earth removed from the pond site, I am creating swails that will now redirect rain runoff back into the pond instead of just over the hills. THis one is a couple hundred feet long and may serve as a driveway someday???
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on September 23, 2018, 12:12:17 PM
I worked until the CTL lost all traction. At the end it was fun. I could build up speed, then throw it into a power slide, slinging mud with the tracks.

I know, I know, you think I'm abusin' old spud, but hey, he likes slidin' around as much as I do!

The trails and roads were all funneling runoff into the pond, even from this constant light rain.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: JR on September 23, 2018, 02:08:12 PM
Those rocks would make a heck of an obstacle along the main road or even a way to block the main entrance if that ever arose. Place a few in the right spot with a "key" to knock out.

There are other ways in/out if I recall.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on September 23, 2018, 06:34:12 PM
Those rocks would make a heck of an obstacle along the main road or even a way to block the main entrance if that ever arose. Place a few in the right spot with a "key" to knock out.

There are other ways in/out if I recall.
No, no other ways to get in out in a truck sized vehicle. With a UTE, yes.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: cudakidd53 on September 23, 2018, 08:29:26 PM
I see you got a Legend hat too - won?t fit my head, surprised if it fits you, unless they sent me a tiny one.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on September 24, 2018, 09:59:04 AM
I see you got a Legend hat too - won?t fit my head, surprised if it fits you, unless they sent me a tiny one.
Mine is adjustable, fits fine, but the pre-Ranger laid claim to it, not mine...
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: cudakidd53 on September 24, 2018, 02:38:38 PM
Let me know if you need another - useless on my mellon!
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: BobbyB on September 24, 2018, 07:08:53 PM
No, no other ways to get in out in a truck sized vehicle. With a UTE, yes.

I have 2 working feet and some dead space I can get in there.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on October 05, 2018, 12:54:52 PM
Pond work continues

I'm in a rush to get this thing done, hopefully before winter

Spent three more days on it. The thing is shaping up (literally) but I'm having to move thousands of yards of earth and boulders

The siblings enjoying an evening of rest and grass suppression
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on October 05, 2018, 12:56:11 PM
I apologize for the crappy pics. I forgot to bring my now broken, new camera and had to shoot the process with that junky Apple I (will not) phone
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on October 05, 2018, 01:01:56 PM
The scene looking down toward the ever enlarging pond
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on October 05, 2018, 01:03:23 PM
I can't figure out how to rotate the pics, I've tried everything. I even rebuilt the pics in GIMP, but found I could not resize those images nor post them here

# Frustrated!
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on October 05, 2018, 01:32:52 PM
OK, so the remaining pics tell a story of the pond building.

As I cut into the rising ground moving outward afrom the levee I created, I am having to dig deeper which creates more tailings, which takes more time to move which slows down the actual expansion. It also is leaving me with up to 12 or more feet of vertical wall that in some places I cut into a slope and in some others have gone a different route

I now have two big piles of boulders, so I thought I'd start using them. I do so by excavating a level pad in an area not yet flooded, then whittle out a level pad there and on top of that begin to randomly stack these mammoth sized rocks. What it creates is a pretty cool looking wall that can be quite high. It is a process of first creating the excavation, then working out the ground, stacking some stones, backfilling behind them, stacking some more and so forth.

Using the grapple on Spud, I can easily move the boulders to wherever I want.

Additionally I built us a swale to the north of the pond alongside that field where the sawmill sits. I had to first take out the trees and undergrowth, effectively widening that pfield. Then I tracked in dirt up to four feet tall and bladed it all in to form a wide "V" trench which will be easy to bushhog with two passes.

Finally I had a camper fire!

I survived it, but what a wake up call

I was sleeping around midnight when I started dreaming I was being gassed...Really!

I awoke to a strange smell, something acrid, then quickly realized it must be smoke. It was!

For some unknown reason the plastic fuse panel decided to catch fire and partially melt. The fire did not spread and only burned up part of the panel itself. I turned off all essential circuits and ventilated. That took a couple of hours, and afterward, I did not sleep well. But it seems to have healed itself, leaving me to wonder what in the heck happened. The Sled Dog who was also sleeping in the camper did nothing. Oh and although when I flipped on the lights to see a smoke filled camper, the smoke alarm did not activate!

Oddly enough, the following day, the smoke alarm began to chirp, indicating its battery needed to be replaced

I do not think we can actually buy anything of quality any more!
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: JR on October 05, 2018, 01:47:36 PM
Dang Don, don't even think I have heard of an electrical fire in a trailer. Funny how your instincts woke you and not the fire/smoke alarm.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on October 05, 2018, 02:00:07 PM
Dang Don, don't even think I have heard of an electrical fire in a trailer. Funny how your instincts woke you and not the fire/smoke alarm.
JR, I think that God protects us against the attacks of the enemy. Not that we don't get hit sometimes, but we generally survive. And who knows just how many shots have been fired at us that we won't know about until we enter heaven.
Praise God, my friend, Praise God!
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: wyorunner on October 08, 2018, 01:36:06 PM
OK, so the remaining pics tell a story of the pond building.

Glad the fuse panel didn?t get out of control before you woke up. God is indeed great!

Where are these pics you speak of? I kind of wish we still lived in GA my son and I would come up and help.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on October 21, 2018, 06:15:55 PM
Well, we finally got back down there for some more (Fun) work

Initially, we went after those pesky eastern cedar trees. We ended up taking another 8 or so first removing some offending critters from an otherwise open field. Following that we took out all but one that is an old fence line that grew up. I plan to open that back up once again. This line was all decent sized trees

I am very carefully about cutting the trees, taking all precautions to insure they fall where I planned for them to fall. Well, that didn't happen exactly according to plan on the last tree I dropped. It did fall in the right direction, but when it hit, it see-sawed over another tree and rolled toward me. I had just enough time to extend my hands when it smacked me, all couple thousand pounds of it. It tossed me like we'd flick a spec of food off the table. I cleared a good body length before crashing into the ground and the pile of cut branches. A quick function check showed me to be OK, but then I stood up. I was all crooked and my back was telling me something wasn't right.

Here it is D+24 and I am feeling better, but man. my back was all "crooked up" for awhile.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: TexasRedNeck on October 21, 2018, 09:17:30 PM
Wow. Glad you weren?t hurt. Sounds like a ?here hold my beer? moment


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Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Bigdave_185 on October 21, 2018, 09:44:29 PM
I might catch grief for this but....... Don cutting trees larger than your leg is not a game for an old man!!!! You need to train up one of those young fast moving boys.   

I don?t know how many trees I have cut over the years and I still get caught off guard.    A good friend of mine fell a few years back from scaling a tree to be trimmed he managed to saw through both his line and his cable life line and fell, if accidents can happen to an arborists with 20+ years,  they for sure can happen to a guy like you or me.   

Please be careful will ya


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Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Bear9350 on October 22, 2018, 08:27:18 AM
Cutting trees larger then your leg is also not an in-experienced man's game either though. 
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: JR on October 22, 2018, 03:26:37 PM
Have to agree, but who called Don old?
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Nate on October 22, 2018, 05:15:43 PM
you did
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on October 22, 2018, 05:57:50 PM
Yea, I get it, and wise comments all

However, I plan to stay at it until I succumb naturally or otherwise

Like a buddy of mine was saying to me a couple years ago, he was talking about his grandfather, 92 years old who had died.

I asked if it was cancer

He said, "No, he fell off the roof of his barn while he was shingling it."

You get one turn at this life, might as well and take a swing at it and keep swinging.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: TexasRedNeck on October 22, 2018, 06:32:39 PM
Go out on your own terms, I say.


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Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Sammconn on October 22, 2018, 06:53:01 PM
As I started reading it...

I want to go peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather.
Not yelling and screaming like the passengers in the car...

😎
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on October 22, 2018, 07:13:04 PM
Here is a bit more rock work. I have the tall wall stacked up to nearly ground height now and progress on the far one
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on October 22, 2018, 07:14:32 PM
I extended the runoff collection trench out another grub pile ??20'??
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on October 22, 2018, 07:16:36 PM
Then continued ganging up on the embankment. It's trick working with water already in the thing, but using the bucket as a depth gage I dig a shelf maybe one foot below the water and as wide as the bucket, then stack the first course of stones underwater, then slowly come upward.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on October 22, 2018, 07:18:59 PM
Here is that short wall section stacked to the height of the levee. I later added another course of stones on top of that to cap the whole thing off and keep wheeled things from taking a plummet
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on October 22, 2018, 07:19:45 PM
Soud is simply outstanding. That thing is one super piece of equipment
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on October 22, 2018, 07:20:27 PM
Here is the far/tall wall getting larger

All of that rubble in front of the wall will get removed in time to create a clean break from water to wall
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Flyin6 on October 22, 2018, 07:21:51 PM
Not sure if I am going to go around here with stones yet
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: Sammconn on October 22, 2018, 09:17:32 PM
Rock wall looks good.

You keep saying and taking pictures of all the rocks, but the pile in the background brings it into perspective. You have a lot of big rocks. And conveniently flat wall building type to boot.

Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: KensAuto on October 23, 2018, 12:55:41 AM
Here is that short wall section stacked to the height of the levee. I later added another course of stones on top of that to cap the whole thing off and keep wheeled things from taking a plummet
I really hope Charles reads this.
Title: Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
Post by: JR on October 23, 2018, 01:48:52 AM
I like the wall, hope you don't run out of stones!

Just 1 question, where is the boat ramp  :grin: