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TOOLS, CONSTRUCTION, ALTERNATIVE ENERGY => Shops Garages and Barns => Topic started by: Bob Smith on September 14, 2020, 03:58:50 PM

Title: Bob's Garage Build, with chainsaws thrown in thread
Post by: Bob Smith on September 14, 2020, 03:58:50 PM
Finally found a site prep contractor. He started clearing the brush today.
Title: Re: Bob's Garage Build, with chainsaws thrown in thread
Post by: Bob Smith on September 14, 2020, 04:10:21 PM
They have serious brush rakes on their equipment
Title: Re: Bob's Garage Build, with chainsaws thrown in thread
Post by: Bob Smith on September 14, 2020, 04:26:14 PM
Next the large excavator To remove the large stumps once the tree guy gets done. Some of the trees are over three ft in diameter. They will also remove a couple large cedar trees next to the house.
Title: Re: Bob's Garage Build, with chainsaws thrown in thread
Post by: Bob Smith on September 14, 2020, 04:31:27 PM
Garage plans are being drawn up and engineered and turned into the county for permits.  With any luck I might have a garage by the end of the year.
Title: Re: Bob's Garage Build, with chainsaws thrown in thread
Post by: Nate on September 14, 2020, 07:55:06 PM
Are you getting to keep the wood they are sawing up?
Title: Re: Bob's Garage Build, with chainsaws thrown in thread
Post by: Bob Smith on September 14, 2020, 09:37:22 PM
Wood is going against clearing costs. Market for export is down right now so hopefully price will be better when it gets to market
Title: Re: Bob's Garage Build, with chainsaws thrown in thread
Post by: Bob Smith on September 14, 2020, 09:40:34 PM
Stump removal will be hard as the trees are really large. Well over 100 years old
Title: Re: Bob's Garage Build, with chainsaws thrown in thread
Post by: Flyin6 on September 14, 2020, 10:25:14 PM
I own one of those grapples
Brush grapple is pretty light duty
Stump grapple is one better
I have a rock grapple and lifting a two ton stone with it is no big deal
I'd say if you stuck a log in there a bit off center it would crush it into two pieces pdq.
Title: Re: Bob's Garage Build, with chainsaws thrown in thread
Post by: TexasRedNeck on September 15, 2020, 06:52:06 AM
Nice progress Bob. Sometimes it’s relaxing to watch professionals work...I would not want to tackle trees that big on my own


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Title: Re: Bob's Garage Build, with chainsaws thrown in thread
Post by: JR on September 16, 2020, 02:04:46 PM
Doing it yourself is satisfying, but is way more work than you think, and where I am now.

If can afford it, pay for it. If you have time and the equip, go for it.
Title: Re: Bob's Garage Build, with chainsaws thrown in thread
Post by: Bob Smith on September 16, 2020, 03:09:52 PM
Trying to do it myself would be scary. I don’t have a saw with a large enough bar nor the knowledge to keep from damaging something or myself.
Title: Re: Bob's Garage Build, with chainsaws thrown in thread
Post by: JR on September 16, 2020, 03:12:57 PM
Nothing wrong with paying for it.
Title: Re: Bob's Garage Build, with chainsaws thrown in thread
Post by: Bob Smith on September 16, 2020, 07:22:40 PM
Photo of the log deck waiting on a truck
Title: Re: Bob's Garage Build, with chainsaws thrown in thread
Post by: Flyin6 on September 17, 2020, 11:44:42 AM
Whoa! That's a bunch of trees!

How much all that worth?
Title: Re: Bob's Garage Build, with chainsaws thrown in thread
Post by: Bob Smith on September 17, 2020, 08:29:58 PM
Two loads so far, one fir one mixed fir/cedar
Title: Re: Bob's Garage Build, with chainsaws thrown in thread
Post by: Sammconn on September 17, 2020, 09:42:08 PM
Wow. Those are some logs. Three across an eight foot deck.
Around here three big ones would net four feet tops. Lol.
Title: Re: Bob's Garage Build, with chainsaws thrown in thread
Post by: JR on September 17, 2020, 11:18:30 PM
And with wood prices now. Just came from HD, OSB was $27. What kills me is you know they bought in bulk under prior contract and didn't pay that.
Title: Re: Bob's Garage Build, with chainsaws thrown in thread
Post by: Bob Smith on September 17, 2020, 11:58:57 PM
Since the guy dropping the trees knows what he is doing, we talked about two large cedars next to the house. Turns out he also climbs.
Title: Re: Bob's Garage Build, with chainsaws thrown in thread
Post by: Bob Smith on September 18, 2020, 12:03:10 AM
JR, price of products are high but the raw logs are. In the dump right now. Export market is way low, better prices selling local.
Title: Re: Bob's Garage Build, with chainsaws thrown in thread
Post by: Farmer Jon on September 18, 2020, 07:22:19 AM
I love watching those guys work. Never catch me up there. Anything over about 20 ft and I'm done.
Title: Re: Bob's Garage Build, with chainsaws thrown in thread
Post by: Bigdave_185 on September 18, 2020, 11:36:00 AM
Climbing looks like a riot to me, Iv bucked some twenty feet off the ground leaned over this last week and it was such a rush of adrenaline!! Sign me up


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Title: Re: Bob's Garage Build, with chainsaws thrown in thread
Post by: Bob Smith on September 18, 2020, 12:47:53 PM
Dave, I only have a couple problems with climbing. I don’t do heights and would have a really hard time trying to climb with all the extra weight attached to me. And of course usually they are climbing because the tree is close to a house or another target. Just trying to keep the limbs from hitting something would do me in.
Title: Re: Bob's Garage Build, with chainsaws thrown in thread
Post by: Flyin6 on September 18, 2020, 03:06:44 PM
Need a climbing saw for that
Title: Re: Bob's Garage Build, with chainsaws thrown in thread
Post by: TexasRedNeck on September 18, 2020, 07:18:04 PM
Yeah, I bought a MS241C pro Stihl saw but it was not technically a climbing saw. They have a top handle 12 inch bar pro saw that is like $600.  That may be my next saw purchase


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Title: Re: Bob's Garage Build, with chainsaws thrown in thread
Post by: Flyin6 on September 18, 2020, 11:23:00 PM
Yeah, I bought a MS241C pro Stihl saw but it was not technically a climbing saw. They have a top handle 12 inch bar pro saw that is like $600.  That may be my next saw purchase


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My oldest son climbed trees during one summer while in college. He can talk all about that crazy business. He kept it on like a six foot line with a release, to toss it if he lost footing up there.
Title: Re: Bob's Garage Build, with chainsaws thrown in thread
Post by: Bigdave_185 on September 18, 2020, 11:36:15 PM
Yeah, I bought a MS241C pro Stihl saw but it was not technically a climbing saw. They have a top handle 12 inch bar pro saw that is like $600.  That may be my next saw purchase


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That’s a good saw right there, on my list after I get a bigger motor saw 400 something from stihl


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Title: Re: Bob's Garage Build, with chainsaws thrown in thread
Post by: Atkinsmatt on September 19, 2020, 06:29:56 AM
I just got a husqvarna572xp. That saw is a real cutter.
Title: Re: Bob's Garage Build, with chainsaws thrown in thread
Post by: TexasRedNeck on September 19, 2020, 08:28:57 AM
Those 72cm3 saws get r dun. I have the 372xp. No auto tune like the 572

That dog eats

Dave the crazy thing is now that I have that 241 I rarely ever use the 372

With that 16 inch bar and 3hp I can work it all day without getting worn out and even if the tree is 20-22inches I just go at it from the other side too.

My ego made me buy the big saw but my arms and back sent me to get the little one real quickly afterward.

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Title: Re: Bob's Garage Build, with chainsaws thrown in thread
Post by: Bigdave_185 on September 19, 2020, 08:41:27 AM
I can honesty say I want the big saw for zero reason on then the “ I want it” part.    I kind of want to build a mod saw and the 400 series seem to be the better platform.  Zero use at all for me lol. Cool factor

 This last week I ripped a little chraftsman 12 for at least half the tree.  A good tuned saw and sharp blade is all it takes.   The saw was free and needed a carb clean.  If had it for a few years

I have found a 24” bar gets my stihl into about any tree I have needed. It does fine as long as I run a skip tooth on the wet wood


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Title: Re: Bob's Garage Build, with chainsaws thrown in thread
Post by: Flyin6 on September 19, 2020, 10:20:27 AM
Bob, gonna rename this the "Chainsaw thread."

Fits right in with the strong DOT tradition that is so well rooted in our little honest forum here

But while we're destroying Bob's attempt to share his joy of building on his new property

I use the Stihl MS311 which is both a beast on trees, and a workout because of it's weight. I think it's powered by a small block chevy or something...
Title: Re: Bob's Garage Build, with chainsaws thrown in thread
Post by: Bigdave_185 on September 19, 2020, 10:39:57 AM
Don look at that small saw charlez is talking about. Small bar and tons of power


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Title: Re: Bob's Garage Build, with chainsaws thrown in thread
Post by: Nate on September 19, 2020, 11:50:18 AM
I Picked this one up about a month ago.
Title: Re: Bob's Garage Build, with chainsaws thrown in thread
Post by: Bigdave_185 on September 19, 2020, 12:42:45 PM
That motor to bar ratio is perfect.  That motor will pull through anything!


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Title: Re: Bob's Garage Build, with chainsaws thrown in thread
Post by: Farmer Jon on September 19, 2020, 01:38:58 PM
Is that the easy start? I got one and love it.

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Title: Re: Bob's Garage Build, with chainsaws thrown in thread
Post by: Bob Smith on September 19, 2020, 01:58:29 PM
Bob, gonna rename this the "Chainsaw thread."

Fits right in with the strong DOT tradition that is so well rooted in our little honest forum here

But while we're destroying Bob's attempt to share his joy of building on his new property

I use the Stihl MS311 which is both a beast on trees, and a workout because of it's weight. I think it's powered by a small block chevy or something...


No problem, could be a couple months before the garage is permitted anyway.
Not to butt in on the chainsaw stuff, but anyone have any heavy duty two post lift Ideas.
Title: Re: Bob's Garage Build, with chainsaws thrown in thread
Post by: Nate on September 19, 2020, 02:06:06 PM
Thats the regular start.
Title: Re: Bob's Garage Build, with chainsaws thrown in thread
Post by: TexasRedNeck on September 19, 2020, 05:31:32 PM
Bob,  Hippy Shawn has one in his shop and I bet he has an opinion.


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Title: Re: Bob's Garage Build, with chainsaws thrown in thread
Post by: Bigdave_185 on September 19, 2020, 05:47:06 PM
Which smart arse renamed this lol


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Title: Re: Bob's Garage Build, with chainsaws thrown in thread
Post by: Flyin6 on September 19, 2020, 08:52:42 PM
Yea, who did that?
Title: Re: Bob's Garage Build, with chainsaws thrown in thread
Post by: Nate on September 19, 2020, 09:14:47 PM
Which smart arse renamed this lol


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He only stated it a few post back!..... :facepalm:
Title: Re: Bob's Garage Build, with chainsaws thrown in thread
Post by: Sammconn on September 19, 2020, 09:48:26 PM
Nate, that’s the modern version of what I use and the slightly I’m not sure where smaller than the 026 the boss cut up or drove over.
Light. Good power. Use all day.
Title: Re: Bob's Garage Build, with chainsaws thrown in thread
Post by: Nate on September 19, 2020, 10:39:16 PM
Its a pretty good little machine.  It really boggs down when you are cutting a tree that is close to the length of the bar.  It is very fuel efficient.  I got this tree completely down, de limbed and cut rounds from the main trunk.  I still have to cut up all the limbs and get everything all raked up and cleaned.  Then i will have to have the stump grinder guy come and do his thing.

It was a shame to lose this 25-30' pine tree that was 20 years old.  Something got it and it went really quick.
Title: Re: Bob's Garage Build, with chainsaws thrown in thread
Post by: Bigdave_185 on September 19, 2020, 10:42:38 PM
Nate what is the blade type your using?
 

They have multiple styles and curfs (?)   I prefer a skip tooth, it allows the motor to spool up easier under load. 

Opinions may very of course


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Title: Re: Bob's Garage Build, with chainsaws thrown in thread
Post by: Nate on September 19, 2020, 10:44:07 PM
Its the standard chain it gets sold with.  I will have to do a little researching and see is i can get something that cuts a little better and easier.
Title: Re: Bob's Garage Build, with chainsaws thrown in thread
Post by: Bob Smith on September 19, 2020, 11:11:37 PM
Yea, who did that?


I was just following your command. The thread was toast anyway and chainsaws is a good topic.
Title: Re: Bob's Garage Build, with chainsaws thrown in thread
Post by: TexasRedNeck on September 20, 2020, 08:43:01 AM
It all has to do with the depth gauge and how you sharpen/adjust.  Part of sharpening the blade is to keep the depth gauge in the right height relative to the teeth.

You can be more aggressive on the depth with softwoods. 

I touch my chain up before every use.  Even a small saw will cut well with a sharp chain.

And that tree looks like it got hit by pine bark beetles.  The blue in the tree is pretty telling.

Get one of these.  You’ll thank me later

https://www.stihlusa.com/products/chain-saws/filing-tools/2in1file/

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Title: Re: Bob's Garage Build, with chainsaws thrown in thread
Post by: Flyin6 on September 20, 2020, 10:18:22 AM
Which smart arse renamed this lol


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He only stated it a few post back!..... :facepalm:
My Bad!
Title: Re: Bob's Garage Build, with chainsaws thrown in thread
Post by: Flyin6 on September 20, 2020, 10:23:31 AM
Its a pretty good little machine.  It really boggs down when you are cutting a tree that is close to the length of the bar.  It is very fuel efficient.  I got this tree completely down, de limbed and cut rounds from the main trunk.  I still have to cut up all the limbs and get everything all raked up and cleaned.  Then i will have to have the stump grinder guy come and do his thing.

It was a shame to lose this 25-30' pine tree that was 20 years old.  Something got it and it went really quick.
Nate get a wood chuck for your drill, and drill a bunch of holes to make a hollow section in the middle. Pour a cup or two of diesel or kerosene in the hole and allow to marinade. Then around dark, set a match to it and enjoy the nice blaze. In a day or so, take the tractor and grade over or pull out any root sections the fire did not eat up.

Pine is full of turpentine and will burn itself up. I remember going through level "C: SERE at Camp Mackall. During the phase we were out in the boonies, I'd look for a downed pine or stump part and carve some chunks from the stump. Excellent fire starter, I thought. Samm could undoubtly illuminate the subject better than I...
Title: Re: Bob's Garage Build, with chainsaws thrown in thread
Post by: Flyin6 on September 20, 2020, 10:24:29 AM
Yea, who did that?


I was just following your command. The thread was toast anyway and chainsaws is a good topic.
Sorry, didn't mean to steer you off your objective.

But you're right, Chainsaws are a good subject!
Title: Re: Bob's Garage Build, with chainsaws thrown in thread
Post by: DDS on September 21, 2020, 08:47:59 AM
This is by far the most used chainsaw I have:
https://www.echo-usa.com/Products/Chain-Saws/CS-2511T
Title: Re: Bob's Garage Build, with chainsaws thrown in thread
Post by: Bigdave_185 on September 21, 2020, 09:16:56 AM
Did you ever get any of the adds or email spam offering to sell that saw for like fifty bucks? 


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Title: Re: Bob's Garage Build, with chainsaws thrown in thread
Post by: Atkinsmatt on September 21, 2020, 11:54:03 AM
I just got a husqvarna572xp. That saw is a real cutter.

It comes stock with a 20 inch bar.  According to the book it will carry anything from an 18 to a 28.  I bought a 24 for it at the time I bought it.  I used the large one on a couple bigger trees just because I had it but the 20 would have been fine.  That saw is a cutting machine.  There was an offer when I bought it that if I bought a case of fuel, they would extend the factory warranty from 3 years to five so of course I did that.  I used 2 of the 6 cans the first day.
Title: Re: Bob's Garage Build, with chainsaws thrown in thread
Post by: Bob Smith on September 23, 2020, 02:33:36 PM
Lots of rain here today, chainsaws are really getting wet. Contractor spread some reject 1 1/2 minus rock around yesterday filling in a few large stump holes and also silt control if it started to rain.
Title: Re: Bob's Garage Build, with chainsaws thrown in thread
Post by: cruizng on September 23, 2020, 05:58:06 PM
Hey!! Build thread.


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Title: Re: Bob's Garage Build, with chainsaws thrown in thread
Post by: KensAuto on September 23, 2020, 07:31:51 PM
Dang it Bob, don't you know that this is a chainsaw thread?
Title: Re: Bob's Garage Build, with chainsaws thrown in thread
Post by: Nate on September 23, 2020, 07:55:17 PM
Dang it Bob, don't you know that this is a chainsaw thread?

Look here debbie downer!   :facepalm:
Title: Re: Bob's Garage Build, with chainsaws thrown in thread
Post by: Bob Smith on October 24, 2020, 07:38:27 PM
When I got home from hunting the garage site looked a lot better.
Title: Re: Bob's Garage Build, with chainsaws thrown in thread
Post by: Bob Smith on October 24, 2020, 07:42:48 PM
Looking toward the rear from the road.
Title: Re: Bob's Garage Build, with chainsaws thrown in thread
Post by: Bob Smith on October 24, 2020, 07:45:48 PM
Small pile of dirt, might turn into a backstop for a small range
Title: Re: Bob's Garage Build, with chainsaws thrown in thread
Post by: Bob Smith on October 24, 2020, 08:01:23 PM
Once I figure out the easement for the driveway and required setback distance we can apply for the permit to build. The contractor will be tasked with that as I don’t get along with people and stupid requests.
Title: Re: Bob's Garage Build, with chainsaws thrown in thread
Post by: JR on October 24, 2020, 09:07:13 PM
Hope your regs are better than mine. Now I will say so far the inspectors have been cool.
Title: Re: Bob's Garage Build, with chainsaws thrown in thread
Post by: KensAuto on October 24, 2020, 09:09:19 PM
Awesome. Is the blue building yours also?
Title: Re: Bob's Garage Build, with chainsaws thrown in thread
Post by: Bob Smith on October 24, 2020, 09:51:22 PM
Awesome. Is the blue building yours also?
The blue one is neighbors across the driveway. Nothing was said about set backs from driveway when he built his garage That is part of the rub, is the easement 30ft 15 ft each side of property line. Or 30 ft all on my property, or just 15 ft total all on my property. My paperwork says except the south 15ft of described land. But the driveway is on  the north edge of property and the county isn’t sure, And I just want to build. 
Title: Re: Bob's Garage Build, with chainsaws thrown in thread
Post by: KensAuto on October 24, 2020, 10:49:28 PM
Nothing like red tape to take the excitement out of a project.

So, you trying to use your shop to help block the view of the neighbors place? Or just putting it where you have room to?
Title: Re: Bob's Garage Build, with chainsaws thrown in thread
Post by: Bob Smith on October 24, 2020, 11:41:53 PM
Even though this place is 2.5 acres it is only 100 ft. Wide and very long. The shop is 45x60, 10 ft setback from one side and either 15 or 30 ft easement plus whatever the county says for setback on the other side. Anyway, not trying to block any view just trying to find a spot for it where I can get a trailer backed into. If I set in across from his shop I can use his gravel area to swing the truck into.