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Build Threads / Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 3
« on: April 21, 2019, 09:26:37 PM »
the issue with a latching solenoid (at least the one we used on the kaiser) is that it takes a 12V pulse to turn on, then a 12V pulse to turn off. so it can’t just be wired to the ignition.

i can however figure out the type used on the LS scouts my buddies built to turn their winch setups. (LED lighted switch inside to show use/not in use)

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Build Threads / Re: We are going to build a Dodge...
« on: April 19, 2019, 03:28:41 PM »
So it would seem my options are
A: Run a rear 3.73 Dana 70 with athe detroit....thus requiring me to purchase 35 axle shafts for the rear axle.
Or run a 14 bolt 3.73 rear end with a detroit It will already have and use the dana 70 ring and pinion and new found locker in the front dana 60...... choices.

14 bolt rear. stupid cheap and easy. dana 60 front with new found locker

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Build Threads / Re: 3+3 2500
« on: April 17, 2019, 05:01:45 PM »
Still wanna sell those dually hubs?.....

guy actually wants a dually 60 built too. for a burb i think. he has a SRW 60 for me to build for a cummins swap square body burb later this year too.

i’ll keep you posted though..

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Build Threads / Re: 3+3 2500
« on: April 17, 2019, 01:51:24 PM »
thanks tate  :cool:



now.. i won’t continue to muddy this thread with dana 60 build pics.. but there will be one completed i assure you of that. hahah


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Build Threads / Re: 3+3 2500
« on: April 13, 2019, 06:50:32 AM »
let’s see if this works

https://youtu.be/_xdubtC3vqI


https://youtu.be/glkkX0b_bzo

this is the first take. seriously. that’s all it took to get it running. cranks faster than my 6.0 PSD. hahah

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Build Threads / Re: 3+3 2500
« on: April 12, 2019, 07:52:44 PM »
can’t post a vid with sound from IMGUR..

but i guess the cats out of the bag!!

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Build Threads / Re: 3+3 2500
« on: April 11, 2019, 07:40:31 PM »
modified dolly to better support the weight.





and strapped down down..




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Build Threads / Re: 3+3 2500
« on: April 11, 2019, 07:39:23 AM »
thank ya.

hoping to get parts in for 60 soon. and may be firing the LBZ today.

need to start wrapping up some stuff so i can get both paid and stuff out of the way. hahah

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Build Threads / Re: 3+3 2500
« on: April 10, 2019, 03:59:54 PM »




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Build Threads / Re: 3+3 2500
« on: April 09, 2019, 09:54:54 PM »
well ladies and gents.. harness is en route. hope to have it in my hands tomorrow afternoon, which will then promptly be put on and test fired (fingers crossed she runs and purrs just a kitten)

pics of harness and hopefully a vid to follow upon the morrow

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Build Threads / Re: 3+3 2500
« on: April 08, 2019, 04:01:42 PM »
nearly done with the pieces..






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Build Threads / Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 3
« on: April 08, 2019, 07:22:38 AM »
So you’re saying you didn’t have one on your suburban and it rolled over?  ;)

See what I did there Don?  I justified your work.


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that’s what you took away from all that..? hahaha

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Build Threads / Re: 3+3 2500
« on: April 08, 2019, 06:11:05 AM »
Cal tracs.  Above the axle bars.


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everything i saw from them (cursory search..) had them below the axle.

also, i wonder if i’ll even need them..?

just thinking of more crap to buy  :grin: hah

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Build Threads / Re: 3+3 2500
« on: April 07, 2019, 11:29:54 AM »
thoughts on an anti wrap bar/traction bars for the square body? i just don’t like how low down the traction bars hang. is there any way to put them above the axle? does that effect performance/effectiveness of them?

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Build Threads / Re: 3+3 2500
« on: April 06, 2019, 11:23:48 PM »
hoping it’ll be this week! harness should be in wednesday.

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Build Threads / Re: 3+3 2500
« on: April 06, 2019, 06:42:23 PM »
just gonna sprinkle in some dana 60 build pics on here. just cause..














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Build Threads / Re: 3+3 2500
« on: April 05, 2019, 04:49:00 PM »
ignore the nasty that is this engine at the moment. i wanted to make sure it ran before dumping tons  of time into the cleanup.


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Build Threads / Re: 3+3 2500
« on: April 05, 2019, 04:46:24 PM »
Better get some tractor supply Grey on those parts


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Build Threads / Re: 3+3 2500
« on: April 05, 2019, 04:08:05 PM »
made a quick stop at the chevy dealership today..



new GM LBZ starter and LMM pedal.

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Build Threads / Re: 3+3 2500
« on: April 04, 2019, 05:49:33 PM »
ohh man.. better make sure it doesn’t sit like that for long then. hopefully i can get it under the truck sooner that later. lol.

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Build Threads / Re: 3+3 2500
« on: April 04, 2019, 11:10:12 AM »
it’s tractor supply.. but noted. i’m thinking of pulling the wheels off and using 2x4s as a cross member to hold 2 wheels. should be fine since i can make them sit right under uprights to bear the full weight and not let any on the flat plywood.

i’m thinking i’ll make them for every ‘customer’ so that they can be easily loaded/unloaded and moved around in the shop/under the vehicle with ease.

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Build Threads / Re: 3+3 2500
« on: April 04, 2019, 07:06:12 AM »
EFI live/DSP 5 switch came in yesterday. harness should be here next week. ordered a new LBZ starter and LMM pedal (per the harness builders spec.. both connections and the pedals themselves are both cheaper and more readily available since LBZ were 2 year manufacture and the LMM style pedal is still in use today with the L5P.. so i went that route. decided to go new since it was $70 instead of the $40 i found used a couple places. means i should be able to rev the motor alittle once it fires! hah.

also, unrelated to the build of this truck, the dana 60 i built for the duramax got some attention from the fella i bought the 205 from, so i’m ‘selling’ him a dually dana 60 and then building it for him. not quite as ‘big’ as mine, but it should look the same. there’s another one down the road that will be full built to the Nth degree for him though.

first off was to move the SRW off the work bench.. and of course it had to get a stand.



new one goes on the bench.



womp womp
those DRW hubs are heavy! hah



stripped it down in maybe 2 hours total. hardest bolts to get off were the diff cover!!



everything just kinda fell apart.. almost too easily. glad i didn’t do this one first or i would have thought they were all like this.







all the pieces should be black by the weekend. then it will just be a matter of throwing it all back together with new parts.. and a dolly stand of course

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Build Threads / Re: M715.9
« on: April 04, 2019, 06:54:35 AM »
no real/build updates at the moment.. just wanted to share that there have been approx 2k trouble free miles on the truck (since speedo was hooked up) and it gets driven nearly every week.

we’ve tossed around the idea of a 4500 swap and i fortunately located a 29 spline dodge tcase with coupler that came out of a running driving crew cab first gen dually with 5600 in front of it for what i felt like was relatively cheap.



sister cases. 29 spline on the left, 23 on the right. now.. what to do with them. hahah

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Build Threads / Re: 3+3 2500
« on: March 27, 2019, 02:55:51 PM »
so the actual frames are the same? i’m curious now.. bc the 2wd frame is crazy clean. the square max guy in CA said that the frames and motor mounts were different somehow. i just don’t want to get crossed up.

i’m hoping to be able to test blast a small section of the frame to see how it cleans up. and if it’s nice i’ll just till with it. if not, back to using the 2wd frame

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Build Threads / Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 3
« on: March 27, 2019, 08:40:35 AM »
used as long period storage coolers.. the hefty ones make sense (i can’t recall exactly which brand you got..) but ppl kill me when they go get a $300 yeti to bring beer to a concert bc it ‘holds ice for a week!’ like.. use a $20 walmart cooler you don’t mind getting sand in if you’re opening the thing every 2 min. hahah

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Build Threads / Re: 2002 Suburban Bumpers
« on: March 27, 2019, 08:37:59 AM »
I Triple Dog Dare you Don.  LBZ or Bust


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i’ll hook you up with the guy doing my stand alone harness.. i’d bet you could have it in and running in an kind weekend  :evil: hahaha

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Build Threads / Re: 3+3 2500
« on: March 26, 2019, 01:29:53 PM »
i quickly compared the thickness to the R2500 i currently have and they appear to be the same?  the 2wd frame i have is in amazing shape, so once i can compare motor mounts and engine crossmembers, i’ll determine what the next step is.

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Build Threads / Re: 3+3 2500
« on: March 25, 2019, 10:36:40 PM »
something very long happened today



it’s abit rough and there are some unneeded bits on it (and botched state work add ons..) but that ladies and gentlemen is a true K30 3+3 4wd frame. should be a decent start to the build up of the frame (shorten, 52” spring conversion, engine mounts and cross member, trans crossmember install added PC’ing)

also picked up an elusive 29 spline NP205 with coupler for decent $$ if anyone on here needs one for a manual swap..

also have a 23 spline dodge tcase with coupler for an auto swap  :grin: hahaha

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Build Threads / Re: 3+3 2500
« on: March 21, 2019, 10:45:18 AM »
small, unnoticeable update.

got the harness sent off to FL to have it stripped down to stand alone configuration. also ordered EFI live with DSP5 switch so i can flash and tune the ECM sitting in the ground..

more (hopefully visible) updates to come. and maybe a video in the next couple weeks   :beercheers:

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Build Threads / Re: 3+3 2500
« on: March 12, 2019, 09:19:05 PM »
slow to no progress being made on the 3+3.. currently in oceanside CA working at pendleton putting in some live fire shoot houses for the beloved USMC..

hoping to be back at it end of march (while building another dana 60 and 203/205 doubler for a guy after he saw how the 60 and 205 i have turned out.. that should be fun!)

wanting to get the engine to fire after i get the harness modified.. that’ll be the real test.

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Build Threads / Re: 3+3 2500
« on: February 25, 2019, 09:01:29 PM »
Its a shame that Warn will not fix the 35spline outers, good for Yukon that they have not.

i compared the 30 spline hubs from my dads truck to the 35s.. same hub dial. identical. which is crazy.

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Build Threads / Re: 3+3 2500
« on: February 25, 2019, 07:36:41 PM »
let’s just start by saying.. never again will i use warns for 35 spline builds.


just because i have a mild case of OCD (wanting both sides to match)  and that my stub axles were factory and not yukon with 2 sets of snap rings, i had to regroove the passenger side also to get the large spring and snap ring to do their job holding the stub axle out and making the flex seal work..
this by no means reflects on the quality or R&D of yukon. from what i can tell it’s a difference in factory dana spicer abs the hardcore hubs..

so.. without further adue.
regrooved stub axle





what i was left with. now here i could have stopped and reassembled it all. but i would have laid in bed and twitched all night knowing the 2 different sides had 2 different length stub shafts. hahah





now.. this is where normal installs start



spring retainer



spacer



BAS..



inner and outer splined slugs



depressed in.. ready for snap ring



and in



cam and retaining flange (?)





large retaining snap ring





grease on inside of hub dial/cam. make sure the dial is in lock potion.

also applied some white lithium grease to the o rings. (there is one between the hub dial and the outer hub body that seals but also has to rotate with the hub when going from free to lock)



aaaaand done



drivers side as well..



passenger side install (without the cutting and grooving) took 27 min.. with taking pics. amazing quality and directions were spot on.

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Build Threads / Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« on: February 22, 2019, 07:01:40 PM »
Just take lots of pics, then edit and write with the work done.

No square body stuff if I recall? My sub needs help.

2nd’d

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Build Threads / Re: 3+3 2500
« on: February 20, 2019, 07:56:16 AM »




to start with the packaging is far superior to that of the warns, which just came in a box all bouncing and sliding around. so.. after taking delivery,  yukon:1, warn:0

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Build Threads / Re: 3+3 2500
« on: February 19, 2019, 10:26:37 PM »
parts came in. but i got sidetracked trying to finish up the building/upstairs office.

hoping to unwrap the axle and get back to work in the next couple days!


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Build Threads / Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« on: February 15, 2019, 08:48:56 PM »
The boss is off doing something else like selling parts to Square D so we can play.

Looks good. Did you build the cabinet?


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i did not.. but my friend who owns a cabinet company here in town did. his dad is an antique dealer who also sells old bricks (silas lucas bricks) and his younger brother does reclaimed hardwood flooring and wood accessories (beams, mantles, large table tops. etc)

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Build Threads / Re: 3+3 2500
« on: February 15, 2019, 07:34:48 PM »
i can’t wait to get these in the mail.

i just wish i had known earlier that these issues were around. and yukon has already figured them out.

called him the other day. really nice guy. easy to talk to and made the time for me.

thanks again tate.

will get back on this once the hubs arrive.

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Build Threads / Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« on: February 15, 2019, 07:28:17 PM »
don’t mean to hi jack. only these 2. i promise




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Build Threads / Re: 3+3 2500
« on: February 15, 2019, 07:05:33 PM »
had i known these issues before hand.. i either wouldn’t have gone 35 spline, and after having done so wouldn’t have bought warns from the beginning. high hopes for these yukons. tate reassured me i was in the clear. and while there was no reason to cut the other side.. there also wasn’t a reason not to. (i’m too OCD to just ‘leave well enough alone’..) but pray for me. maybe i can do it. lol.

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Build Threads / Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« on: February 15, 2019, 06:27:26 PM »
nearly identical to mine!

here’s a paint color code.. ya know. for educational purposes and such.


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Build Threads / Re: 3+3 2500
« on: February 15, 2019, 06:24:52 PM »
the ends needed to be cut off to fit the warns. but the regroove was so that the snap ring holds the stub axle outboard and the inner and outer spindle seals do either jobs. i’ll most like do the same thing to the other side once the yukons show up  :laugh:

i’m currently in a holding pattern waiting on UPS. possible they’ll be here tomorrow. most likely monday. can’t wait to rebutton this axle up.. the right way.  :beercheers:

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Build Threads / Re: 3+3 2500
« on: February 13, 2019, 12:10:16 PM »
35 spline.

i was thinking that the inner section of the warn hubs (where it slips over the stub shaft and rests against the spindle were different thicknesses [inboard to outboard] than the yukon hubs)

i only ask bc i’ve regrooved further inboard on the stub shaft.. not simply cut off the end.

(here you can see the old and new snap ring groove and where they sit in relation to the warn inners)


sorry for double posting if you’ve already seen it.   

but i’m glad to know that you/your guys are good with it and i don’t need new stubs. lol. 

what’s the fix for the other side? still re groove but no need to cut the  end off?


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Build Threads / Re: 3+3 2500
« on: February 13, 2019, 11:24:28 AM »
i think those measurements make sense.. and it’s what i’ve found also.

is there any way you can show your tech guys what i’ve done so far and see what they think/confirm that i haven’t FUBAR’d anything and/or would need to replace the stub shaft (which i don’t want to do..) if the hub mechanism itself is the same thickness (where it rides/splines onto the stub shaft..) i won’t have any issues.. i don’t think.

thanks in advance

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Build Threads / Re: 3+3 2500
« on: February 13, 2019, 06:40:37 AM »
my biggest issue/question is the fact that i’ve cut and regrooved a stub axle already. can anyone verify the depth of the part of a yukon hub that rides on the seth. shaft (from spindle to groove)

if it matches the warns, ill order a set ASAP..

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Build Threads / Re: 3+3 2500
« on: February 12, 2019, 09:41:53 PM »
had i known this from the start, there’s a real chance i would have just gone either factory 30 or chromoly 30s. but i’m this far in.. gotta find a way out now. lol

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Build Threads / Re: 3+3 2500
« on: February 12, 2019, 09:40:57 PM »
i saw that also. i would say is go that route, but have already done one side. plus this way i think i can get the large flex seal on the stub shaft to spindle to seat like i’d want (pressure but not smashed) as well as keep all the factory stuff. i think i’ll be ok if i can just get the other side right

you guys think this is an alright fix..?

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Build Threads / Re: 3+3 2500
« on: February 12, 2019, 09:08:34 PM »
That green bore is super tiny. You think they would have upgraded the kit for 35 spline.

my point exactly! lol. i think i measured it out to 1.3” or something like that. i’ll check again. and compare to my dads kit that is going on the kaiser (stock 30 spline)

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Build Threads / Re: 3+3 2500
« on: February 12, 2019, 07:08:27 PM »
just googled them. i think you’ll be ok. so long as the last little bit doesn’t stuck out past the end of the spindle. that’s what i was

my issue isn’t with the spindle nut. but those are pretty awesome. i’m just running the upgraded dana 60 ones with the pin on the inner nut, holed keyed washer in the middle and a large flat outer but nut.  instead of the old style with the fold over tabs on the keyed washer.

the inside of the aluminum hub body is baixally flat (maybe 1/16” difference between where the inner splined section hits the end of the spindle and where the outer splines contact the wheel hub splines. i’ll see if i can grab a pic. so as long as the spindle nuts stop short of the end of the spindle.. i don’t foresee an issue.

picture of all the issue areas hahah


blue is where the large convoluted twist on lock ring goes
red is what i’m calling the hub guts/innards/inner splined section
green is the inside of the hub dial that is/was contacting the stub shaft. (if seems to be made for the factory 30 spline axles..  :huh:)

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Build Threads / Re: 3+3 2500
« on: February 12, 2019, 06:56:39 PM »
what are those stage 8 nuts..?

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Build Threads / Re: 3+3 2500
« on: February 12, 2019, 06:56:02 PM »
so this spacer is only on there because of the pirate post.(and i believe it’s actually the outboard snap ring for the stub axle)  it’s the write up i used to modify the stub axle. they are a factory Dana spicer part with only 1 snap ring location. it’s as if they used the same location for the groove as the factory 30 spline, but the factory 30 spline locking hub intervals are 1/4” thicker (inside to out) than the warn hubs. it’s as if warn knows there’s an issue with the setup but won’t just say it outright. make the hub dial threaded cup wider or something. it’s like they’re using  the same dial as the 30 spline kit and just changing the innards. even a snap ring that came in the kit is identical to the 38 year old one i took off the truck..
they even told me that ‘yea,  you may have to just shave off the end of the stub.. that outboard snap ring doesn’t do anything. you don’t even need it.’

i think i’ve got it straight though. according to the install video i found earlier, there is nothing between the warn hub and end of the spindle. so the other side i’ll do with just the hub guts slipped on. cut off the stub shaft just on the outside edge of the old snap ring groove, clean up and regroove right next to the warn hub innards.

sound about right..?

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