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CIEMR / Troubling!
« on: January 23, 2019, 11:57:43 PM »

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Humor, Good Stuff, and Red Neck Practices! / Re: The "Why" Thread...
« on: January 23, 2019, 11:40:52 PM »
Why does the sun lighten our hair, but darken our skin?

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Build Threads / Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« on: January 23, 2019, 11:36:10 PM »
So after much consideration I called Monster Transmission. We talked through this build, the power levels, tires/gears/weight/ and on and on. John over there felt the truck would benefit from their 1800-2000 RPM torque converter which is super strong and can handle more heat and abuse than the stocker.

The stocker locks up somewhere around 1500 ish so this new converter will allow me to get into some good torque to get the 6500-7,000 lbs moving mo-easilyer.

The price was good at $335 to my door.

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Build Threads / Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« on: January 23, 2019, 11:32:18 PM »
Looking good, Don. I’ve got basically the same engine in my 04 Express 2500. Makes me feel like I should just follow your blueprints and do a build on it. 
Or if you get bored when you’re done with yours, I’ll let you take mine apart and play with it.  :)


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Dave, this isn't playing. Its some real work.
I think the payoff with these motors is huge and am hopeful for a good result

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Build Threads / Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« on: January 23, 2019, 08:50:18 PM »
After sealing off the openings to protect against FOD I threw on the coil packs after applying some dieelectric grease to the weather pak connectors

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Build Threads / Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« on: January 23, 2019, 08:48:20 PM »
Then the rocker covers and the AC belt tensioner

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Build Threads / Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« on: January 23, 2019, 08:47:24 PM »
After applying some assembly lube the Vinci Cams chrome molly pushrods were installed followed by the stock rockers

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Build Threads / Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« on: January 23, 2019, 08:46:02 PM »
I repeated all of that on the second head and stood the engine upright for the valvetrain parts

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Build Threads / Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« on: January 23, 2019, 08:44:52 PM »
And just like that, the first head is installed

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Build Threads / Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« on: January 23, 2019, 08:43:53 PM »
Next an angle finder is fitted to a 1/2" breaker bar and used to make a second pass in sequence on a 90 degree pull. It honestly did not feel all that tight, maybe 50ish ft/lbs I'm guessing, then a third pass of another 70 degrees. This brings the bolt to the "Yield point" and is the final tightening. The inside small bolts only get torqued to 22 ft/lbs and not again.

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Build Threads / Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« on: January 23, 2019, 08:40:24 PM »
Bolts were given a spot of lube on the threads and under the heads and torqued the first pass to 22 ft/lbs

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Build Threads / Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« on: January 23, 2019, 08:38:27 PM »
Torque to yield cylinder head bolts are a use once then discard proposition. Summit supplied these

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Build Threads / Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« on: January 23, 2019, 08:37:17 PM »
I popped the dowel pins out of the old 317 heads and tapped them into the block then slid everything into position

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Build Threads / Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« on: January 23, 2019, 08:35:33 PM »
The gaskets have a top and one of the steam holes closed off, which makes then right and left. I made triple sure I got that right

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Build Threads / Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« on: January 23, 2019, 08:11:45 PM »
Cylinder head time. Here's the GM Performance multi layer steel gaskets which I think are the same as stock

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Build Threads / Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« on: January 23, 2019, 08:10:35 PM »
Next up the oil cooler line assembly was reattached after a through cleaning and coating with clear engine enamel

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Build Threads / Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« on: January 23, 2019, 08:09:18 PM »
The drain lever is a bit counter intuitive. You'd think you need to align it with the drain port to open, but that is actually the closed position. Came with a safety clip to keep everything where its supposed to be

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Build Threads / Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« on: January 23, 2019, 08:07:16 PM »
This one has a 90 degree petcock which can be oriented in any direction

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Build Threads / Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« on: January 23, 2019, 08:06:20 PM »
Starting with an extension since my oil pan has the drain plug recessed

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Build Threads / Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« on: January 23, 2019, 08:05:40 PM »
Started today installing the new Fumota oil drain valve

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Build Threads / Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« on: January 23, 2019, 08:04:48 PM »
Wheels showed up from 4-wheel parts

Well spent $412!!!!!!!!!!

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Build Threads / Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 Build Thread, Part 1
« on: January 23, 2019, 10:57:56 AM »
Sounds like a solid warning right there

Stay Away!

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Humor, Good Stuff, and Red Neck Practices! / Re: The "Why" Thread...
« on: January 23, 2019, 10:55:20 AM »
Why do people order double cheeseburgers, large fries, and a diet coke?

Because diet coke tastes better;-)
Wrong!

Back to Why's:

Why do we leave cars worth thousands of dollars in our driveways and put our useless junk in the garage?

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D.O.T. / Re: WDYDT (What Did You Do Today)
« on: January 23, 2019, 10:53:36 AM »
I spent 15 hours at work spraying a kitchen this color.

What do you guys think?

Building a $700K house and the wife says this is what she wants? Y


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Shipping to Key West???

Only place that color fits!

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Build Threads / Re: 3+3 2500
« on: January 23, 2019, 09:56:21 AM »
Take a look:

Torque Specs on Dana 60.

Ring-gear bolts- 110 (lb-ft)

Bearing-cap bolts- 85 (lb-ft)

Diffrential cover bolts- 35 (lb-ft)

Kingpin-to-end forging- 500-600 (lb-ft)

Knuckle-bearing cap bolts- 70-90 (lb-ft)

Steering arm to knuckle nuts- 70-90 (lb-ft)

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Build Threads / Re: 3+3 2500
« on: January 23, 2019, 09:54:02 AM »
since it may be warm enough to paint tomorrow, i wanted to get what might need rolling and turning out of the way. so in went lower king pin bearing races and dust shields.



it didn’t call or any.. but i figured what the heck, RTV can’t be that bad on a somewhat (in my head) seal surface.









back upright, king pins.

in case anyone was wondering.. this is what 600ft lbs looks like without a $1200 torque wrench. hahah







also, just for reference, this offset mark is the difference between tighter than anything known to man and hand tight. not even alittle kidding. made this mark while taking off the old ones, so i figured i might as well use it for reference while tightening to an unholy level.



i put the new king pins in hand tight, retarded the mark the same amounted the one, and set to work with archimedes’ lever in an attempt to move the world.

this is the result


No body who ever attempted to remove a king pin would disagree!

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Hide Site / Re: Hide site, retirement site.
« on: January 23, 2019, 09:45:15 AM »

No necessarily so, Don.  I just don't post the mistakes....except maybe that pond thing with mowers....

Ah yes, I forgot about that noteworthy event


There is no doubt that if i were the subject of interest by some agency they could likely hack my camera system.  One reason only exterior cameras.  I don't want the chinese seeing me walking around naked in my house.....

Nor would we!


I don't find myself checking cameras all that often.  Because they have motion detection, i get alerts if they detect motion and the sensitivity and area of detection can be adjusted.


Don, that shower is coated in a rubberized coating by KBRS, who also made the one piece composite showe pan.  Guaranteed leak proof.  There is fabric mesh seam tape that goes on all the seams and then you roll on the sealer and put about 3 coats on it and its essentially a monolithic rubberized box.  Even if water penetrates the grout or mortar, there is zero chance water reaches the stud cavity.  Once its dry you just tile right over it.  I spent a lot of money on the shower system because I've seem my fair share of poorly constructed showers and the damage they can do.  The 3x4 composite shower base kit alone was $600 but it will last longer than I will.

^^^^^ See! See what I'm talking about^^^^ You and Duane cosmic brothers or something? ;-))

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Hide Site / Re: Hide site, retirement site.
« on: January 23, 2019, 09:37:15 AM »
Copy, one other question? Where did you get that picture of Ken?  :popcorn:
Ya know...

I'm thinkin' of throwin' the yellow flag on this one

Guys

What about it

Is that overly cruel or am I wrong

Spank him or let him run for a bit longer?? What do the menses say?

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Build Threads / Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« on: January 23, 2019, 09:33:06 AM »
And oh, by the way, this is the single pesky bolt that caused me to remove the engine from the chassis. Like many of you suggested, it just made too much sense not to!

Don,

Could you replace the pesky bolt for a 2 or 3" stud or cobblefabricate a longer bolt to make it easier on the next guy that need to reach it and still have clearance?  :popcorn:


You could put a stud in there,

But

You still have to either pull the motor, or drop the front diff to get the pan down far enough to get the bolt started, and all the while you can't see what you are doing

Keep in mind, this is the MAIN AND ONLY oil supply for the engine. Get this one operation wrong and you are back to A. Pull the engine.

Secondly, remember Ken's dire warning: Don, there is no other way to say this, your oil pan is now going to leak

I'm only a pilut, and not a very bright one, but that was as clear to me as when my wife told me "If you join the Army again and go off to war, I'll divorce you! Simple easy to sort through messages are the most effective for me.

So, in the end it was the factory bolt with a dab of lock-tite blue

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Build Threads / Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« on: January 23, 2019, 09:27:52 AM »
So I guess that means no stroker kit?


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Not for now my friend

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Humor, Good Stuff, and Red Neck Practices! / Re: The "Why" Thread...
« on: January 23, 2019, 09:26:40 AM »
Why do people order double cheeseburgers, large fries, and a diet coke? 

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Humor, Good Stuff, and Red Neck Practices! / The "Why" Thread...
« on: January 23, 2019, 09:09:27 AM »
I'll Start:


Why do drug stores make the sick walk all the way to the back of the store to get their prescriptions while healthy people can buy cigarettes at the front? 

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Build Threads / Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« on: January 22, 2019, 09:48:33 PM »
And that is the enchilada for today, get back at it in the morn.

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Build Threads / Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« on: January 22, 2019, 09:47:26 PM »
Then torqued the oil pan down

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Build Threads / Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« on: January 22, 2019, 09:46:32 PM »
Felpro supplied the oil pan gasket. I applied four small dabs of RTV to the parting lines of the front and back covers where they mate to the oil pan

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Build Threads / Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« on: January 22, 2019, 08:51:27 PM »
Bolting stuff back on...good feeling to reverse the trend line!

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Build Threads / Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« on: January 22, 2019, 08:49:03 PM »
It's a 6.0L for sure!

Next up the cam/timing cover. Bolts loose for now, snugged after the oil pan install

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Build Threads / Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« on: January 22, 2019, 08:46:42 PM »
Used some stickems to hold down the harness, then applied a 1/4" tall dam of RTV as per the GM bulletin that Ken also supplied. So, thanks to him, I think the job is done right.

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Build Threads / Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« on: January 22, 2019, 08:45:06 PM »
New wiring harness as per Ken's recommendation

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Build Threads / Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« on: January 22, 2019, 08:43:41 PM »
That went together easily

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Build Threads / Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« on: January 22, 2019, 08:40:23 PM »
Which included the rubber seals that seal contaminants out of the engine internals while isolating the knock sensors

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Build Threads / Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« on: January 22, 2019, 08:39:00 PM »
Felpro center valley cover gasket kit

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Build Threads / Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« on: January 22, 2019, 08:38:05 PM »
And oh, by the way, this is the single pesky bolt that caused me to remove the engine from the chassis. Like many of you suggested, it just made too much sense not to!

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Build Threads / Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« on: January 22, 2019, 08:36:13 PM »
Gave a similar treatment to the other parts and coated the motor mounts with bed liner. Harbor Freight stuff, but sprays like the more expensive stuff

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Build Threads / Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« on: January 22, 2019, 08:32:01 PM »
Wire brushed, sanded smooth, cleaned and re-cleaned, and painted

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Build Threads / Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« on: January 22, 2019, 08:25:22 PM »
But one thing that wasn't very nice looking is the oil pan. Look at that casting flash. Must have been cast in a russian tank factory!

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Build Threads / Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« on: January 22, 2019, 08:23:38 PM »
So the paint cured out fine. My Kubota engine is lookin' purdy!

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Build Threads / Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« on: January 22, 2019, 08:22:47 PM »
Well like always, I like using talent from right here, like you, Ken as you will see shortly with tonight's post. Yes, Brian is easy to work with and pays attention to detail. I hope that lots of folks see his work here and order bumpers from him.

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Build Threads / Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« on: January 22, 2019, 07:51:15 PM »
Starting to zero in on the bumper with Bear (Brian). Hey, that's close to bear Bryant...Roll tide!

Going with three different sized holes in the front bumper, 5" inside, 4" just outside of that, and 3" in the flats on the sides for rock crawling lights

He was playing with ideas for a brush guard, but for now, I'll forgo that and just get a bumper/winch on the front to bolster capability

We still have some work to do on the rear, and we have decided to re-install the factory hitch in lieu of Brian's much heavier, and more capable offering pictured below:

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Build Threads / Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« on: January 22, 2019, 07:40:06 PM »
That’s starting to look like a Mopar block all oranged up!
Dave sez its Kubota, I thought it was black, so whatever...I'm good

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