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I admire your gumption. You have a lot of work ahead of you. When it comes time for breeding stock I can hook you up with some pure bred registered wagyu bulls.
OK, I'll keep that in mind

Are you thinking pure bred Wagyu or "American Wagyu?  American is a traditional breed such has Angus bred to a Wagyu bull. They calf easier and grow out a little faster and cheaper. Pure bred are pretty flighty. They can spook easy but once they get settled and are comfortable with their surroundings they calm down.

If you are thinking you want to sell to the public there is a ton of paperwork. Selling to friends and family is no problem.

On that note, the processor cost our client a lot of money. A few weeks ago they pulled a couple fats.  A red Angus and a Wagyu cross. The Angus was sold to another gentleman and the wagyu was supposed to brought home and sold commercially.  They mislabeled it. This guy got Wagyu for Angus price. Now Logan got stuck with all this Angus labeled as Wagyu and cant sell it. He dont want to sell it. Hes not in the Angus business. He sells Wagyu. The only reason he even had the Angus is its the last of his old heard that he phased out. So we picked it up for $2300. Processed and delivered.  With strict instructions not share it with anyone.

I think I was talking about the American Wagyu.
This is all new to me at this point and I am currently working on the business plan for the farm. I am making a proposal to buy 78 more acres that are on mmy backside (south) and lay pretty flat. What's all overgrown with cedars will restore to some great flat fields with a couple of ponds. If I could get 30-40 cows working on the then 160-170 acres, I think I'd be in pretty good shape.
I am making connections with the KY government tax and Ag departments. I plan to use a lot of their programs available to we "New" farmers. Studying this stuff has been a real process to be sure!

Hide Site / Re: Hide Site/Bug Out Location Construction, Part 6
« on: January 24, 2021, 01:50:34 PM »
Glad to see yo have not been idle on it. Someone started a hemp farm near my place, went bust from what I can see.

You have a foundation with basement right? Can you build on that? What is going on with the well, cleaned up and usable?

Good and bad on the road, now people will just drive by.

No one can just drive by as it were. The entrance to the place still is not evidient at all, you'd have to see it to understand, I suppose.

Well just cleaned up, not used yet. I get more rain water than I can use and about to catch it off the shed/house as well.

I tore the basement if you could call it that with the excavator and filled all that in. Thought was that someday, I may dig it all back out to build a proper house, but until then it's growing grass.

Hemp, I don't know enough about it to comment, just that it is a wanted cash crop, right up there with the Lilac for the pharmaceutical industry.

General Maintenance, How to/DIY projects / Re: Paint correction
« on: January 24, 2021, 11:42:18 AM »
Got the fender flair back on the driver side,  going to detail a dodge Cummins next week on Monday so I’ll finish my personal truck later. 

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That is flippin' outstanding work!

Canning & Food Storage / Re: New Equipment
« on: January 24, 2021, 11:39:57 AM »
I see those things everywhere!

General Vehicle Related Discussion / Re: 1986 K5 Blazer
« on: January 24, 2021, 11:36:55 AM »
Dave, without even questioning it, I'd opt for the newer 14 bolt. You can live with the Gov-lock if you baby it, or prepare to replace it when it grenades.
I don't think you mentioned anything about the Master-Cylinder. You will need one for disc/disc. Any stock Chevy silverado would probably bolt right up. Do a little research to figure out which one would fit/ work best and you're on your way!

...That is slick!

Hide Site / Re: Hide Site/Bug Out Location Construction, Part 6
« on: January 24, 2021, 11:30:26 AM »
There has been a lot going on down farm-side.
Given the recent political trajectory, I am moving forward on the next phase in the life of the place.

Up to this point, the farm has been a place in search of a purpose. It has taken years to clear the land back, repair a million things, put in and repair ponds, build roads and buildings and acquire capital equipment.

So, I decided to focus on several areas of growth, as in setting some goals for the place.

I want to be able to:

1. Move there permanently is necessary and live comfortably.
2. Sustain me, and some family members
3. Possibly serve as a "Camper hookup" for some guests should they feel the need to evac their current homes.
4. Produce an income from what I have there
5. Fence some fields and being in some cows
6. Start raising aquatic critters in the ponds
7. Start growing some high value crop. So far I am thinking Lilac, Lavender, and hemp.

So, what has actually been going on down there? First of all a fairly major road project has been going on for months. The road going in has radically changed from being a bumpy, pot hole strewn trail to a road cleared thirty feet either side, straightened and flattened, currently with a thick rock base that can easily handle a semi.
Why you ask? Well, I do not own the first 3/4 mile of driveway and the owner of that property wants to put cows on his land there and has cleared a lot of it of the cedars and scrub leaving the tall hardwoods as cover. It's really quite striking now. It's reminiscent of a winding country road perched atop a ridge with sweeping vistas. The whole thing is to be fenced and gated. Now I can get anything hauled back, where before that would have been impossible.
I have torn the barn down, salvaged the timbers which now sit in a pile beside my sawmill, burned the remainder and graded all the land around that, blending it into the existing field. That will be the first site that I will fence with the goal of having two cows on there by the end of summer.

I plan to start with two "Anything" cows just to learn how to work them at that location, but then quickly transition to raising Wagyu beef both to consume and to sell.

A guy who used to crew helicopters I flew now raises 600 acres of Hemp and commercial marijuana and has become very wealthy. I plan to call on him for some advice and get into a niche market selling that to local CBD hippy markets.

We are already sawing up timbers, planks and similar where I am using that to teach my son entrepreneurship.

As for the fish? I am thinking of raising prawn, tilapia, and a breeding pond for Koi to sell to the pet industry.

Welp, that could keep me busy for a time

Oh, and

Kat challenged me with turning the "shed" into a nice cabin house, so I will be busting out doing that as well.

Build Threads / Re: Topic: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 4
« on: January 24, 2021, 11:04:58 AM »
That is really cool! I will soon be the proud owner of this GLO built axle and will display it proudly beneath that lifted Suburban of mine. Thanks Shawn!

Faith Discussion / For your consideration
« on: January 24, 2021, 10:38:18 AM »
Persecution ahead: Time to prepare for the underground church
Exclusive: Scott Lively notes how closely America has gotten to 'what the Soviets did'
Scott Lively   By Scott Lively

While my last article took the optimistic view that America can yet be saved from our new Nazi overlords, the more likely scenario is a rapid descent into tyranny, which sooner or later will phase into the great tribulation of end-time prophecy.

COVID-19 was more than just a pretext for crashing the U.S. economy to take down Trump. It served to justify repressive police-state controls across the globe. The election-fraud campaign was about more than stealing the presidency. It produced the stunning abandonment of any pretense of fairness or due-process in the vicious enforcement of Marxist narratives by all the power players of the elites: a result that will likely not be reversed despite the coup being completed. The dystopian jack-booted surrealism of Baghdad Biden's pending "inauguration" is more likely a glimpse at the "new normal" than just an historical aberration.

That's the soberingly pessimistic view we must include in our contingency planning, even as we hope – and work – for the best.

If that is the "new normal," it won't really be new for Christendom as a whole because the first generations of Christ-followers endured an even worse form of demonic oppression under the Romans than we are likely to see (at least in the early stages of America's transformation). And Christians in more recent centuries have faced similar persecutions in numerous Marxist and Muslim countries. It will only be new to American Christians who think that stability and peace is the norm and not the exception in world history. In truth, our forebears were blessed by God for obedience to Him, and we have slowly lost that national blessing for disobedience.

In my own contingency planning, I formed First Century Bible Church in early 2020 to create a network of "remnant" Christians and congregations to help Christendom transition to the "underground church" I believe will be necessary for our survival. Remnant Christians are those who have resisted attacks on the truth and authority of the Bible on various issues and usually suffered persecution at varying levels for doing so – without compromising their faith. Their experience has opened their eyes to spiritual and cultural realities that less assertive believers rationalize away to avoid discomfort or remain blind to. My eyes were opened in the LGBT wars. Others were awakened by different attacks on God's truth. Our duty is to prepare for a great awakening of believers triggered by the season of trials that has just begun.

In God's plan for transforming spiritual babies into adults, persecution often serves as the "refiners fire" – the tool of the Master Silversmith to purge the dross from the silver until it offers a perfect mirror finish in which He sees Himself. As Psalm 66:10 says, "For thou, O God, hast proved us: thou hast tried us, as silver is tried."

In my travels I have learned a lot about the underground church and want to offer a few tips for my fellow Americans who want prepare for the worst.

1. Don't trust the government. One of my first encounters with the underground church was in Cairo, Egypt. Anne and I took a three-day layover there on one of my trips to Africa, and we met with a couple of Christian groups there. Egypt allowed them to operate openly on the condition that they did not evangelize the Muslims. But one of these groups connected us with an underground church that evangelized street kids. We learned that they had great success running a business as a front and recruiting the kids into the business where they were introduced to Christ and converted. The biggest challenge was persuading these teens not to have their official government IDs changed to read Christian instead of Muslim – because they literally risked murder by their families for conversion. And, of course, the leaders of this church risked their lives for engaging in evangelism.

2. Hold church services as "invitation only" events and don't let anyone outside the event know where it is taking place or what is being done there. During my 50-city speaking tour of the former Soviet Union, I met many Christians who had lived under the Soviets. There were many families whose relatives were jailed, killed or sent to Siberia for the mere possession of a Bible. The KGB would have agents attempt to infiltrate Bible study groups, and other agents would be stationed outside of homes where home churches were suspected of meeting.

3. Develop direct person-to-person networking to share critical information. Organize larger-scale church networks in cell groups. In one city in central Russia, the church that was hosting us for a major conference was hated by the mayor, who was a holdover from the Soviet days. At the last minute he forced the hotel where our event – for more than 1,500 people – was to be held to cancel. In the U.S. that would have killed the conference, but in less that 24 hours these Christians changed venues and pulled off a hugely successful event in that new location where more than 1,500 people attended. That was all done by word-of-mouth because they used person-to-person networking for critical communications.

4. If you hold public services, assume you will be under surveillance by government agents.

Belarus is the last old-style Communist country of the former Soviet Union. The church we spoke at there was allowed to operate openly, but when I was picked up at the border that morning the pastor warned me passionately not to say anything that could be construed as critical of the government, because there were always agents in the congregation monitoring what was said.

Now, I realize these examples seem impossibly far from anything that Americans might ever have to endure in this country. But who would have ever thought even in December of 2019 that state and local governments across America would lock down our churches like they have done? Who would have imagined the intense censorship of President Trump and his supporters, most of whom are Christians? Who would have believed that an incoming federal government – controlling all three branches – would be seriously discussing legislation to declare MAGA rallies as domestic terrorism? Who would have expected that the grossly anti-Christian Equality Act would be this close to passage after being stopped in 2019 – and that the most extreme elements of that movement would be on the threshold of having the full power of the U.S. government backing them? How far are these things, really, from what the Soviets did?

I think we've got the time to prepare for serious persecution and enough warning signs flashing that we should get started now. Join the First Century Bible Church network if you agree.

Build Threads / Re: Topic: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 4
« on: January 18, 2021, 08:59:20 PM »
Looks like a great start!

CIEMR / A war is coming
« on: January 17, 2021, 01:20:02 PM »
Gentlemen, I now believe a war is coming to America and is eminent.

I would recommend those who haven't made preparations to do so. You cannot just head to the hills as you may think. It is time to find that friend/cousin/or someone who lives well outside population centers and partner up with him.

If you can only shelter in place should local happenings force you to do so, well, just do the best that you can. Remember there is strength in numbers, but if your neighborhood is split between common sense people and left leaning people, then you are not secure.

I don't know much else to tell you. If you're urban and in a place where a liberal government has control, then all your prep at that location will most likely be quickly lost.

We need to continue to pray for our nation, but going forward, the United States as we knew it will cease to exist. Because so many millions will not be willing to make the huge changes a few in charge will undoubtly place upon us, many will see a fight as the only way to resolve.

I don't think I am saying anything most people don't already feel, but we are a "Survival" website and therefore, I think we will soon be getting back to doing just that, Surviving and getting along in a rapidly changing America.

This site will continue to do what we do and provide information, and perhaps communication. God Bless all...

Our Heros, The "Hooah" or "Ooh-Rah" Place / Marine Corps Commandant
« on: January 17, 2021, 01:08:03 PM »
General David H. Berger, Commandant of the United States Marine Corps., refused House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s request to use the Corps. to safeguard Biden’s Jan. 20 inauguration from Trump supporters and insurrectionists.

A Pentagon source speaking under promise of anonymity told Real Raw News that Pelosicontacted Gen. Berger late Monday night, and she beseeched him to commit 5,000 troops to help ensure a peaceful transition of power and to prevent a repeat of the Jan 6 siege of the Capitol. Gen. Berger, our source said, didn’t understand why Pelosi needed additional soldiers to augment an already impressive force assembled by federal and state officials. That force includes 15,000 National Guard from D.C., Delaware, Massachusetts, and Rhode Island, and an undisclosed number of FBI and DHS agents who arrived in D.C. Sunday night.

Pelosi said she wanted “battle ready” reinforcements because “radicalized Trump supporters and kooky Qanon conspiracy people” were about to converge on D.C.  She implored him to reconsider, arguing that it was the general’s patriotic duty to quell uprisings and guarantee Biden’s ascension to the Oval Office.

Her statement made the general explode, our source said.

“Don’t lecture me on patriotism, Madam Speaker. I’ve served this country with distinction for 40 years. I’ve spilled blood for our nation. What have you, a self-serving elected official, done for your country?” Gen. Berger said.

Pelosi further enraged him by saying he was answerable to Congress.

“I answer only to the president, and as I understand it, Donald J. Trump is still president and commander-in-chief. I abide in the Constitution as it was written, not your interpretation of it,” Gen. Berger admonished Pelosi.

Quoting our source, “When her intimidation tactic failed to sway Gen. Berger, Pelosi tried a different tactic: Begging and flattery.”

Pelosi claimed that the National Guard’s “weekend warriors” were ill-prepared to repel an army of “mad Trumpists.” Battle-hardened marines, however, were more capable of defeating “rabble rousers,” she said. “You have the best trained soldiers in the world, and America needs them.”

Gen. Berger was unmoved. The only way Marines would be deployed, he told her, was if President Trump himself issued that order.

“If you want us to help combat his supporters, I suggest you get him on the phone and tell him that. If he orders me to, I will. Otherwise, I suggest you listen really hard to the words escaping your cracked, poisonous lips; they’re tantamount to treason. We don’t work for you,” Gen. Berger allegedly told her.

D.O.T. / Re: WDYDT (What Did You Do Today)
« on: January 16, 2021, 05:18:59 PM »
A10s have the Best sounding engines 

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Cool fact. The Canadair CL-700 that I used to fly had the A-10 CF-34 engines. Same engine but the Air Force was allowed slightly higher EGT than we commercial weenies. Can't imagine. Two of those making 14,400 each on a 75,000 jet( Canadair) and I could climb out with the nose 22 degrees above the horizon. Normal climb out is something like 5 degrees, then back to around 2 degrees

D.O.T. / Re: WDYDT (What Did You Do Today)
« on: January 16, 2021, 05:15:33 PM »
I’ll bet it’s fun swing them actually flying vs landing and taking off.  That’s all we get here

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Yeah, a few years ago a couple did practice guns runs on me. Quite exciting to have them dive straight down on you and pull up at the last second. Thank God there wasn't a Brrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.
You'd have actually been standing beside Jesus looking at you getting all blowed up, when the BRRRRR sound arrived.

Faith Discussion / Re: Prayer Request thread
« on: January 15, 2021, 12:27:20 PM »
Happily sent!

Firearms / Re: 29id S.O.P.
« on: January 15, 2021, 12:22:20 PM »
Must be a classified, new, shooting technique...or the new optical handgrip option...

Financial Prep / Re: BitCoin
« on: January 15, 2021, 12:17:32 PM »
Shawn is correct in my view that this is the enemy of big banks and big government...What, no control??? Preposterous!

Therefore I thing T has characterized the reaction to BitCoin by controllers, err, banksters correctly. Never the less, no matter what banks or nation states or the king of Siam ever does, Bitcoin will still be here. It, seemingly, cannot be destroyed and defies control measures. It is actually more rare than gold and I really think will replace Gold as one of the most valuable things known to man.

On to other things. We've all had a great look at the trading swings of Btc over the past two weeks. Rising as much as 10% in 24 hours to a high of something north of $41,000, it fell to a low of around $31,000. A $10,000 trading range is anything but stable making for some fun (not so fun) shifts of 33%.

I see this as another set of labor pains as this thing wrestles with the traditional authority on earth to take off for the stars. A load more of money printing is about to arrive as we no longer even consider the rising debt and possibly eliminate it altogether in one fail-swoop with the introduction of Fed-Coin. When that happens it will be nothing but smoke and mirrors behind the scenes where the books are adjusted to fit the narrative.

Most Favored Companies / Re: Companies we don't like so much
« on: January 13, 2021, 07:45:59 PM »

Our Heros, The "Hooah" or "Ooh-Rah" Place / Re: Joint Chief of Staff memo
« on: January 13, 2021, 07:34:57 PM »
I don't think the intent of the letter was political. The letter was sent as a reminder to the force that we serve to support and defend the Constitution. This is something that, unfortunately, needed to happen because of the growing number of Servicemen/women who are engaging in direct (and often vulgar) criticism of senior military and civilian leadership on social media. There was also an active duty officer who organized and led a group of Soldiers to participate in the demonstration on 06JAN. There were also a number of reserve component service members present at that event. It is unclear as to whether or not any of them were involved in the rioting, but that is under investigation. In my opinion, we (current leaders in the armed forces) have failed to properly educate young service members on the fact that we DO NOT have the same rights to freedom of expression as our civilian brother and sisters. We are held to a higher standard. We can engage in politics, but MUST appear apolitical to the public while still serving. No matter who is elected as President, no matter whether we agree with their politics, he/she is still our Commander in Chief. We are obligated to follow all lawful orders. That is why this letter, and one from the Chief of Staff from the individual services as issued.
Sean, Thanks for shedding light on this and clearing things up. I understand this very well.

Many moons ago, I sat in the Ft. Campbell Officers Club at one of those mandatory things, which was called for by the CG, 101st Airborne Division. He told us more or less the same thing. I got to chat with him a bit later. I said, "Roger that" but aired some of my frustration with the current CIC. He told me that we cannot lower ourselves to the standards our civilian authority seem to hold, and that we are better than that.

Indeed, we are better than that. Anyone serving should be a country mile away from this stuff, it is for the people to exercise their rights. Only way a soldier needs to be near a political riot is if has been ordered to be there.

Everything Trailer, Camper, or RV related / Re: OverLanding Camper Build
« on: January 13, 2021, 07:27:06 PM »
This build is sweet! Great work man!

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D.O.T. / Re: WDYDT (What Did You Do Today)
« on: January 13, 2021, 12:44:16 PM »
Deleted Facebook account and Twitter account. About to cancel gmail account and change all browsers to Bing default.

I have some work to do on Amazon

Don’t let the liberals make money on you and your data

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And what ya gonna do about that last line? Sent from IPhone lol

I think I’ll leave my Gmail alone, I don’t have a Twitter. I use Instagram but not for much, could go with out it.

Is this site in a spot where it could be closed down?   Is it small enough they would gloss over it?

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Dave, I doubt we could be affected. I purchase storage, as in I own it, and the server for a year at a time. I pay between $600-$700 annually for that, so I actually own it. Additionally we are small enough that I have considered just installing my own server in me casa where someone would have to cancel my hard line, electricity, or something like that to remove
Similar to gold and silver, if it’s not in your physical possession, you don’t truly own it. Unless you know the person whose server this place is hosted, it could easily be shut off, a matter of a few clicks I’d wager.

If the ISPs get involved, all bets are off everywhere.
So, T, what...start saving for a server?

Faith Discussion / Re: Word(s) of the day
« on: January 13, 2021, 12:40:11 PM »
“Blessed are those who are persecuted for righteousness’ sake, for   theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
Matthew 5:10 ESV


Our Heros, The "Hooah" or "Ooh-Rah" Place / Re: Joint Chief of Staff memo
« on: January 13, 2021, 12:39:33 PM »
That letter should never have been published

Steve, you're correct it is political. Our country is not the same, something fundamental to our nature has changed

Intel / Re: Italy Gate??
« on: January 13, 2021, 12:32:58 PM »
And part 2:

The latest article published on this blog has explained the hacking scheme which involves Italy’s government. Bradley Johnson, a former CIA agent and chief of one of the intelligence agency stations, revealed how Italy had a crucial role in what could be described as an international coup d’état against Donald Trump. Basically, the main actor of this attack was Leonardo, who is an Italian government company leader in the defense and aerospace sectors. There’s another person who has completely confirmed the role of Italy in this fraud and it is Maria Zack. Mrs. Zack is the chairman of the association “Nations in Action ” and in an audio file leaked two days ago she explains how the fraud would have occurred. According to Mrs. Zack, the operation center which coordinated the attack was effectively the US embassy in Rome. This version completely matches Mr. Johnson’s story, but Mrs. Zack gives more important details about it. The operation would have been coordinated by the Italian General Claudio Graziano on the second floor of the embassy, assisted by an Italian secret service agent, Stefano Serafini. General Graziano is a very important character in this story. The Italian military leader is the president of the military committee of the European Union. The General is an ardent supporter of a European army solution and in one of his recent conferences clearly said that there’s nothing beyond the EU and NATO. Therefore, Graziano could be considered a deep state operative and a member of the military lobbies that are fiercely opposing President Trump’s foreign policy, which is not based upon military interventionism but on the respect of other countries’ sovereignty. However, the Italian military would have been the director of this operation which would have used Leonardo’s technology. As Mr. Johnson said, the Italian governmental company provided its technology to run the hacking attack. Maria Zack confirms that a “Leonardo’s satellite was used to load the software and change the votes from Trump to Biden”. Originally, the plot to switch votes from Trump to Biden didn’t start in Rome, but in Frankfurt, where a CIA station hosts Dominion’s servers. Apparently, everything was working fine until the hackers in Frankfurt realized that what they were doing wasn’t enough to finally deliver the “victory” to Biden. At that moment, the hackers called Rome for help. Then in the US Embassy, the operation was recalibrated by creating new algorithms. Trump was taking too many votes and it was necessary to reinforce the attack. The votes were then sent from a military satellite operated by Leonardo to the US into Dominion’s servers. Apparently, all this plan was confirmed by Arturo D’Elia, a former Leonardo’s consultant, who in a sworn testimony admitted his role in the hacking scheme. Mr. D’Elia claims that he acted under the instructions of US embassy personnel in Rome. However, it seems very unlikely that this plan could have taken place without the US ambassador in Rome, Lewis Eisenberg, knowing what was taking place in his own embassy. Lewis Eisenberg was appointed by Trump in 2017 and he was a contributor to his campaign. However, at the same time, he’s very close to the Zionist neocon lobbies which oppose Trump’s military disengagement. The political masterminds of the plan: Renzi and Obama What was described so far is the military and secret service level of the operation orchestrated by disloyal and subversive members of the US and Italian deep state, but Mrs. Zack’s revelations that follow are even more shocking. The political level of the plan was basically conceived by Barack Obama who was allegedly helped by his Italian counterpart, Matteo Renzi, the former Italian Prime Minister. The Chairman of Nations in Actions claims that what happened was “a really brilliant plan orchestrated by Obama with the help of Renzi.” The relation between Renzi and Obama is simply fundamental to figuring out both the first coup attempt against Trump, namely the Spygate, and the second ongoing coup against the US President, which is the electoral fraud. The latest declassification of the NSA documents confirmed that in September 2016, Barack Obama was perfectly informed of what was going on against the Republican candidate. The former CIA director, John Brennan, had informed President Obama that Hillary Clinton was fabricating a false scandal to depict Trump as a “Russian stooge”. The US institutions, such as the FBI and the US intelligence community, had a major role in this plot because they gave a green light to the illegal espionage against Trump. Therefore, it is not far-fetched to say that President Obama was the mastermind behind the plan to sabotage Donald Trump. At the same, the Spygate couldn’t take place without the decisive assistance of Italy. When Obama had chosen to authorize the illegal espionage operation, he would have asked for the help of the former Italian Prime Minister, Renzi. The timing is very important in this matter. A month after Obama-Brennan’s meeting, the then former Italian PM paid a visit to the White House. If Mrs. Zack’s version is right, it was on that occasion that Obama ordered Renzi to take part in the plan. Renzi would have agreed by involving the Italian secret services in the espionage. The Italian secret services would have conceived a plan to set up Giulio Occhionero, an Italian nuclear engineer, who had been used as a way to falsely associate Trump to the Kremlin. Basically, the Italian intelligence would have tried to plant Hillary Clinton’s emails on Occhionero’s US company, Westlands Inc. Occhionero was chosen as a patsy because he’s quite close to the American conservative circles that endorsed the Trump campaign. However, the most surprising thing that ties this scandal to the electoral fraud is the relation between Obama and Renzi. Even after both of them left their offices, they kept working to orchestrate a sort of permanent coup d’état against Donald Trump. Italy is the red thread that connect Spygate and the US electoral fraud There’s a red thread that connects Spygate and this red thread is the axis between the Italian and the US deep state, represented in this case by Obama and Renzi. This subversive plan would have never stopped and would have continued until November 2020 when both sides, the US and the Italian operatives, conspired to overthrow Trump. In other words, globalism has certainly used members of the Democratic party, like Obama, to coordinate the coup, but even more crucial would have been the subversive power of the Italian deep state deeply eradicated in Italy’s public institutions. Italy’s incumbent PM, Giuseppe Conte, would have been perfectly informed of this operation as “he is very engaged and involved” claims Zack. And frankly, if this version is proven right, it is hard to think the contrary. Leonardo is a government company that has 30.2% of its shares in the hands of the Italian Ministry of Economy, the minister there is Mr. Roberto Gualtieri, an EU loyalist. The present CEO of Leonardo, Mr. Profumo, was appointed to his role in April 2020 by Conte who basically confirmed the choice of his predecessor, Paolo Gentiloni, former Italian PM in 2017 and also apparently involved in the Spygate. The black funds to finance this plot would have been provided by Iran, which would have financed Obama with 400 million dollars to direct the operation. This version partially confirms the role played by Obama from 2017 onwards. The former US president ran an organization outside Washington DC, which could be considered a sort of shadow government to thwart Trump’s presidency. According to other sources, Obama’s financers would have been Soros ONGs. However, the former Democratic President had been simply essential to coordinate the whole scheme and Italy has provided its technology and its government operatives to carry out this plot. The story of the US election fraud has basically been an international coup d’état conceived by the Washington deep state and acted through the participation of several countries and globalist governments, such as Canada, Germany, China, Spain, and Italy. In other words, the globalist power has been used by the governments that are serving the New World Order agenda to overthrow Trump. The Italian opposition is not exposing the scandal: the axis between Renzi and Salvini Meanwhile, in Italy, the media are silent both on Spygate and Conte’s involvement in this scandal. The leader of the Italian opposition, Salvini, is not denouncing them either. Apparently, after the fall of his government, Salvini formed a sort of axis with Renzi to pave the way for another technocratic government, most probably led by Mario Draghi.

The system in Italy has been silencing those scandals because they see the participation in them of both the majority and the opposition. However, as was explained in the previous article, Italy is essential for solving the crime of the US election fraud. If someone wants to really understand what happened in this elaborate international coup, it must look at Rome.

Intel / Italy Gate??
« on: January 13, 2021, 12:31:25 PM »
For those of you who have heard this business about Leonardo's part in the alleged vote manipulation, here is part one of what is being said...6 min read

Conte, Leonardo SpA and the U.S.-Embassy behind the Election Data-Switch Fraud to take out Trump


  Conte, Leonardo SpA and the U.S. Embassy behind the Election Data Switch fraud to take out Trump Italy and Conte played a key role in the international cyber plot to take out Trump. Leonardo Finmeccanica's Cyber Warfare satellites are among the means used January 5, 2021 8341 by Riccardo Corsetto Riccardo Corsetto Director L'UNICO "The Italian Government and Prime Minister Guiseppe Conte are directly involved in the electoral fraud that affected the American elections leading to Joe Biden's pending illegal victory." According to US investigative sources working here in Italy since 18 November 2020, it was the US Embassy in Rome who coordinated the data manipulation of votes cast for President Trump to Joe Biden, with the technical complicity of Leonardo SpA, a company that is 31% owned by the Italian Government and generates more than half of its multi billion USD annual revenue from its US based subsidiary. Leonardo DRS whose chief executive officer, William Lynn III, was formerly the undersecretary of defense during the Clinton Administration. Leonardo DRS is actively pursing a public listing on the NYSE in 2021. Leonardo SpA, formerly known as Finmeccanica underwent a name change in January 2017. According to individuals who carried out the data switch operation under the direction of US intelligence officials in the American Embassy, they utilized one of Leonardo’s advanced military spec (cyber warfare) satellites to transmit manipulated votes back to Frankfurt servers and on to the United States, as reported by the journalist Cesare Sacchetti. Leonardo S.p.A. it is the largest industrial company in Italy and is active in the fields of defense, aerospace and cyber security. The largest shareholder is the Italian Ministry of Economy and Finance, which owns a share of approximately 31%. Leonardo-Finmeccanica merged the activities of previously controlled companies such as AgustaWestland, Alenia Aermacchi, Selex ES, OTO Melara and Wass. Leonardo is the tenth largest defense company in the world and the third largest in Europe with revenues from the defense sector representing 68% of its annual revenue. The company is listed on the FTSE MIB index of the Milan Stock Exchange. The company is structured in five operational divisions: Helicopters, Aircraft, Aerostructures, Electronics and Cyber Systems for Security and information. In Fiscal Year 2020, the US Government awarded nearly $1B in cyber security, intelligence and defense contracts to Leonardo SpA. The former chairman of Leonardo is Gianni De Gennora who left Leonardo in May 2020. Leonardo SpA Chief Executive Officer Alessandro Profuma, a former banker who in October 2020 was condemned for the scandal of Banca di Monte Paschi di Siena. Alessandro Profumo was appointed by the Gentiioni Government and reconfirmed by Prime Minister Giuseppe Conte. The same Profuma was recently sentenced to six years for banking irregularities by Italian courts. One of the board of directors of Leondardo SpA (2017) was Professor Guido Alpa, a former law partner of Giuseppe Conte in Rome. Prime Minister Giuseppe Conte in recent days had been the subject of press articles about plans to establish private intelligence agencies. The involvement of the Italian Government through Leonardo SpA The President of the Council - Prime Minister Giuseppe Conte The Conte Government is believed to have played a key role in the international coup that would have compromised President Donald Trump's reelection. Switzerland has recently come under heavy accusation of complicity in the alleged cyber coup, as claimed by Neal Sutz, a Swiss-American blogger, who denounced Switzerland's active role in US presidential fraud. Scylt, Swiss software linked to Dominion Voting Machines It all starts with Scylt, denounced Neal Sutz,a software purchased by the Swiss national postal service , which is directly implemented in Dominion Voting Machines at the center of the US election scandal, directly linked to the tycoon George Soros. According to Sutz, Switzerland never informed the Trump Administration of the serious flaws in the Scylt software, well known to the Swiss Government, and added that it had evidence of the plot that President Trump's lawyers would acquire. According to local sources with direct knowledge of these events reporting to Nations in Action, the US nonprofit for election integrity and public governance transparency, the manipulated data was transmitted from Frankfurt to Rome via the US Embassy in via Veneto, according Rome the central role in the alleged international election plot to overturn the ballots cast by American citizens for the next President of the United States thereby creating a constitutional crisis. On the night of 3 November (in the United States) – approximately 8 o’clock in the morning Italian time – the counting of votes was simultaneously suspended in a number of key battleground states, as shown by some official videos taken from the closed circuit of the Atlanta polling station and which we have documented extensively in this newspaper. At that point while the fraud was already widely initiated, the Leonardo SpA IT hackers realized that "Trump stood above Biden for a very large and unexpected number of votes" so much so that manipulation was in vain and not enough to make him lose. U.S. President-Elect Joe Biden Sicilian born Igzanio Moncada, CEO of FATA SpA, a wholly owned subsidiary of Leonardo SpA, is believed to be a bridge between some secret services and the Italian Beijing Business Association, the Italian Iran Business Association and the Italian Qatar Business Association. It has been stated that Moncada may be a key figure in the eight month planning of the election hacking in Italy. Senior US Embassy personnel in Italy reportedly gave the order to act, coordinating the hacking and developing "new algorithms", states a key witness of the fraud, to secure a win for the democrat candidate Joe Biden. The role of the US Embassy in Rome The US Ambassador to Italy, Lewis Eisenberg We would not advance this story if it had not come from a former member of the world's largest cyber warfare aerospace and defense conglomerate based in Italy. The US Ambassador to Italy is Lewis Eisenberg, very critical of President Trump's military disengagement in the world and who is very close to the neoZionist lounges connected to the Goldman circuit. Three senior officials from the US intelligence community, landed at Leonardo da Vinci Airport in Fiumicino several days prior to the November 3rd 2020 election in the US. According to a former CIA agent, the three intelligence operatives were housed at the U.S. Embassy in Via Veneto to coordinate hacking operations during election count suspension from November 3-4. 


D.O.T. / Re: WDYDT (What Did You Do Today)
« on: January 12, 2021, 07:40:57 PM »
Deleted Facebook account and Twitter account. About to cancel gmail account and change all browsers to Bing default.

I have some work to do on Amazon

Don’t let the liberals make money on you and your data

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And what ya gonna do about that last line? Sent from IPhone lol

I think I’ll leave my Gmail alone, I don’t have a Twitter. I use Instagram but not for much, could go with out it.

Is this site in a spot where it could be closed down?   Is it small enough they would gloss over it?

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Dave, I doubt we could be affected. I purchase storage, as in I own it, and the server for a year at a time. I pay between $600-$700 annually for that, so I actually own it. Additionally we are small enough that I have considered just installing my own server in me casa where someone would have to cancel my hard line, electricity, or something like that to remove

D.O.T. / Re: WDYDT (What Did You Do Today)
« on: January 12, 2021, 07:36:51 PM »
Deleted Facebook account and Twitter account. About to cancel gmail account and change all browsers to Bing default.

I have some work to do on Amazon

Don’t let the liberals make money on you and your data

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Intel / Re: Emergency Broadcast system activation
« on: January 12, 2021, 11:45:48 AM »
That's my concern.

Inauguration day, DC will be locked down, and that is a good thing. No sense providing access to a provocative venue.

The way the left is telegraphing coming down hard on anyone who is conservative is going to push some to action. That isn't going to be good, because it will just give them more ammunition to use against the right.

I see state capitols as being softer targets which will likely be places where violence may happen. I hope not, but some people have hit their boiling point.

What I see as a far more likely scenario is some rioting and perhaps even attempted assignations by ANTIFA and BLM operatives making it appear like trump people are committing the act. I think that is what they did at the US capital building while some innocent conservatives were swept up in the emotion of the moment and flowed inside as well. In any event, we are in a bad spot to be sure.

Intel / Re: Emergency Broadcast system activation
« on: January 11, 2021, 02:38:31 PM »
Parler will come back shortly, I think

Intel / FYI
« on: January 11, 2021, 12:38:44 PM »

Faith Discussion / Re: Prayer Request thread
« on: January 11, 2021, 11:05:27 AM »
Matt, so sorry to hear this

Share Your Recipe / Re: whats for dinner tonight
« on: January 11, 2021, 10:03:55 AM »

Don’t pull my man card....

Roasted Beet, Butternut squash, Parsnips, Kale.  Sautéed snow peas, pear tomatoes.  All over Farro grain with some salmon on top.

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I see salmon...What's all that other stuff, garnish?


CIEMR / Thank you Mr. President and First Lady
« on: January 09, 2021, 11:55:43 PM »
Thank you President Trump, and First Lady Melania Trump for working so hard for us. Thank you for standing up against harassment such as no president and first family has ever had to endure. Thank you for never failing to put we American citizens first. Thank you for making the tough calls although those decisions brought much hatred your way. Thank you for making us a strong nation once again and restoring dignity to our country. Thank you for caring for police, and farmers, and soldiers and widows, and doing the right things. Thank you for giving up your very successful business life to help a broken nation get off her knees and stand strong once again. By gosh, we stood so strong the mightiest nations on earth trembled at the power they witnessed. You stood for truth. You carried on honored traditions, you loved God and hated evil. I don't know if I will ever understand how you coped with all that you had to go through, but for what it matters, I am very, very grateful. God Bless you and your family, God speed, and may you sail on with a gentle wind at your back. You made us better, and you earned your place in history as one of the greatest men this United States has ever produced! America loves you


Intel / Re: Emergency Broadcast system activation
« on: January 09, 2021, 10:50:17 PM »
I am sharing this not as verified intel, but as a string of bread crumbs, all of which point to one really big something about to happen or one grand illusion.

In the long run it is easy to do the math to see we conservative Americans just lost a lot of security and will be under pressure and at a legal disadvantage against the liberal forces which have come to hate us so keenly. But in the event something of a more acute nature pops off, this and other things may be signaling such an event.

Intel / Emergency Broadcast system activation
« on: January 09, 2021, 07:44:30 PM »
Not verified

Scuttle-butt from several sources point to a possible coming total shutting down of all main stream media with a simultaneous activation of the Emergency Broadcast system. Only the President or the governors can activate the system. The system has been improved to broadcast directly onto the millions of cell phones we the people possess.

No reason given nor timeframe, just increasing chatter that this may happen soon

                                      ------------ NOT VERIFIED------------

Build Threads / Re: 2010 F350 Extended Cab Cummins 24V Swap
« on: January 09, 2021, 07:03:26 PM »
Powerstroke in its natural state lol

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I have seen that in just about every diesel shop I have ever visited

Faith Discussion / Re: Prayer Request thread
« on: January 09, 2021, 06:58:11 PM »
In all seriousness, I am praying for all of you. I started in the wee hours of the morning before anything else. Pray for the safety and welfare of everyone here and their families going forward.

Financial Prep / Re: BitCoin
« on: January 09, 2021, 12:16:17 PM »
Just for kicks I got into Greyscale Bitcoin ETF.  Went up significantly in the last 2 weeks and I didnt have to setup a wallet, etc.  It’s an ETF on trading sites so much easier.  Not sure if it will track in a pure linear fashion but I like the ease.

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"Danger, Danger Will Robinson!"
To quote Robby the robot
Should the dollar disappear, you gonna be screwed
Crypto dollar, I think, is fast approaching.
So you'll then own a bunch of shares of your ETF redeemable into "Fed-coin" a wholly owned and trackable monetary instrument
Btc, on the udder hand is not
Oh and Btc is just Btc. No middle man siphoning off a percentage of your profit...
food "fer" thought...

Faith Discussion / Re: Prayer Request thread
« on: January 08, 2021, 06:52:23 PM »
Who else?

Faith Discussion / Re: Prayer Request thread
« on: January 08, 2021, 12:25:17 PM »
Thanks all.

On the general subject of prayer, I think we ought to commit personally to pray for everyone on this forum, even the guests who run around in the shadows. Reason is, we are entering dark times such as none of us have ever seen, and we are going to do this regression on a national level. I no longer have any strong human leaders standing up for good and the kingdom of God and those who are a part of it. Now it's just us and our God. These times ahead will test our faith for sure as we see growing injustice and persecution. No kidding it's going to be tough and not everyone is going to make it through unscathed. These are end times we are living, and I really hope I'm right in believing I am caught up into the sky during the rapture. It seems as though the prophesies are all pointing to an intersection and that may be in view at the moment. The end times players may well be sliding into their comfortable leather chairs at the head of almost everything.
You just became a target, and although you may well have been one in the recent past, now the evil ones will be your adjudicators. Your talk of a loving God will offend many and you belief in a two gender marriage will be hate speech if you talk of it. That's all coming. Our courts are about to be thrown on their ears and liberal God haters are going to be able to pronounce sentence on you without objection. No we are not there now, but we will get there. BLM tore cities apart in peaceful demonstrations, while peaceful Trump people made an armed insurrection on 6 Jan according to speaker pelosi (for now on her name will not get a capital letter, for she is a small person and not of the kingdom of God) Yep, we're screwed because we do not yet inhabit our spiritual bodies, so lets pray for everyone here, every day, even Dave's!

Build Threads / Re: 2010 F350 Extended Cab Cummins 24V Swap
« on: January 08, 2021, 12:13:14 PM »
Ya, what he said ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Financial Prep / Re: BitCoin
« on: January 08, 2021, 11:53:50 AM »
We are in the beginning or middle or end of an explosive growth in this Bitcoin crypto currency

Those who bought it and everyone else...

Today's numbers:

Cost:                 $1090.91
Btc purchased:   .04746
Btc value            $41,540
Current value:    $1971.48

Increase:           $880.57
Percent increase  80.7%
Start date:          15 December, 2020

I remember reading articles that predicted Btc would hit $50,000 in 2021, which would have doubled your money had you purchased on 15 December, 2020 like we did with this experiment. But there is a pretty good chance it will hit $50K this month. This thing is going to fly. Hard to say but it may grow multiples of $50K in the next 11 months.

I think it will eclipse $1,000,000 for a single coin in just a few years!

And this is real money. I could click a couple buttons and simply buy dollars with it, or goods and services at thousands of businesses. This thing made over $800 from an investment of a a little under $1100 in less than a month.

D.O.T. / Re: Quote Thread
« on: January 07, 2021, 08:48:39 PM »
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."

D.O.T. / Re: Quote Thread
« on: January 07, 2021, 08:47:59 PM »
"Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the Government take care of him, better take a closer look at the American Indian."
 - Henry Ford

Faith Discussion / Re: Prayer Request thread
« on: January 07, 2021, 08:46:01 PM »
Both of my Pre-Rangers have Covid. One is coming out and one is going in. Wife is starting to get sick. I get to be the nurse. Between all the sickness and what is going on with our country, a lot of us ought to be getting a lot closer to Jesus. He's getting to be the only thing anyone can count on. Well, thinking about it, He was always the only thing any of us could ever count on!

Our Heros, The "Hooah" or "Ooh-Rah" Place / Re: New Air Force memo
« on: January 07, 2021, 08:42:55 PM »
Makes me even more glad I got out before all this reimagining of everything.

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This is not the Air Force that Gen Curtis Lemay envisioned...He must be doing flips in his grave!
Flips? That man is about to kick the lid off of that coffin and start smacking some people

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I believe it. He tried to make the Air Force into a flying Ranger Regiment

D.O.T. / Quote Thread
« on: January 07, 2021, 02:12:40 PM »
Politicians are like diapers; they need to be changed often and for the same reason.”
- Mark Twain

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