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Alternative Energy / Re: Wood Fired Boiler Install
« on: October 16, 2018, 10:50:04 PM »
On to the outside of the house, I started drilling holes for the clamps I picked up which will hold the pipe assembly to the side of the house with TapCon screws

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Alternative Energy / Re: Wood Fired Boiler Install
« on: October 16, 2018, 10:47:48 PM »
I scored some aluminum duct tape at SLOWES, so I taped in both HE units sealing them well to the cabinets they live in

I think I map tape a piece of bat insulation over the exposed end in time, but for now I am in full court press mode to get the system all designed and hooked up

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Alternative Energy / Re: Wood Fired Boiler Install
« on: October 16, 2018, 10:44:46 PM »
Next, I cut into the lines in the basement and installed two full flow brass valves to keep things dry when I pull it down for maintenance

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Alternative Energy / Re: Wood Fired Boiler Install
« on: October 16, 2018, 10:41:43 PM »
Lacking enough 90 degree fittings to completely connect the unit to the supply/drain lines, I did what I could. This PEX system makes for a very clean installation

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Alternative Energy / Re: Wood Fired Boiler Install
« on: October 16, 2018, 10:38:59 PM »
^^^ That looked flimsy to me, so I moved the eyebolts outboard, and closer together, then supported the aft of the unit with two additional bungees which made for a very secure mounting that makes me happy.

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Alternative Energy / Re: Wood Fired Boiler Install
« on: October 16, 2018, 10:37:19 PM »
I decided to let that just sit out all night and get to mounting it to the wall tomorrow midday sometime

Mean while I went back to the big garage heater, continuing to experiment on how best to hang it. I tried this criss-cross next before redoing the whole geometry of the suspension system

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Alternative Energy / Re: Wood Fired Boiler Install
« on: October 16, 2018, 10:35:24 PM »
Over the next hour the stuff got really active and pushed out some pretty big mushrooms for the pup to chew on in the morning.

In fact when I trimmed off the "Mushroom" the stuff continued to expand out of the hole!

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Alternative Energy / Re: Wood Fired Boiler Install
« on: October 16, 2018, 10:33:37 PM »
So as I pumped the foam into the cavity, I'd do so until the stuff started to weep from the next hole inline, then repeat the process going downline from end to end. I pumped five cans of the stuff into that cavity and as you can see, got good distribution of the mess crap!

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Alternative Energy / Re: Wood Fired Boiler Install
« on: October 16, 2018, 10:31:06 PM »
The plan was to fill the entire cavity of the 3" PVC and the two PEX pipes with poly foam to add the insulating factor I need because the assembly will be hanging on an outside wall

I drilled a 5/16"hole about every 18" to even out the distribution of the foam, give it a weep hole, and increase the likelihood that I'd drill into the PEX by mistake

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Alternative Energy / Re: Wood Fired Boiler Install
« on: October 16, 2018, 10:27:21 PM »
Its amazing how those three preceding pics make it all seem like it's nothing at all. But those were staged pics after the both of us fought like sumo wrestlers to get that pex stuff into that 90 degree configuration

Next we fitted (Glued) two endcaps to the pipe assembly to finish each end

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Alternative Energy / Re: Wood Fired Boiler Install
« on: October 16, 2018, 10:24:03 PM »
The concept of the operation is to use the 3" PVC as a outer case to house the two PEX (inlet/outlet) and insulate the whole thing, then mount it as an assembly to the side of the house

You would be wiser to choose a butt whipping than to tackle trying to stuff this relatively unbendable 1" PEX into a place it does not want to go, which seems to be just about anywhere!

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Alternative Energy / Re: Wood Fired Boiler Install
« on: October 16, 2018, 10:21:06 PM »
OK, time to build that pipe to connect to the soffit.

Here are the parts for this thing I invented:

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D.O.T. / Re: WDYDT (What Did You Do Today)
« on: October 16, 2018, 02:46:53 PM »
Phil, come to Texas, the rest of CA seems to have....

No state taxes, relatively cheap real estate, and we?ve created more jobs in the last 10 years than any other state. We are a very pro business state. When BHO was in charge we created more jobs that the rest of the country in a few years.

Now because of that we have every
Major road under construction but hey that?s he price of progress.


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Looking real hard at Tennessee right now, I have soured a little on the DRY states I like green and things that grow and at lest have water available!  I do love many things about the southwest but I just dont want to live here full time anymore!   
States that start with a "T" are all good, either one is a winner. Not quite as hot in the Ten vs the Tex

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Alternative Energy / Re: Wood Fired Boiler Install
« on: October 16, 2018, 10:24:45 AM »
Time to replace this aging appendage of a light. 11 years has killed it!

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Alternative Energy / Re: Wood Fired Boiler Install
« on: October 16, 2018, 10:24:02 AM »
I think I'll transition the pipe under the soffit to the right, then join it to the down section.

Right now the design of the transition pipe (I am thinking) will be two PEX pipes wrapped in insulation, fitted inside of a PVC pipe that is then filled with poly foam. I'll install 90 degree fittings at the junctures and pray for no leaks. I'll probably have to build the thing up as a single long assembly so that I can later drop it during installation and break it along with something else of value.

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Alternative Energy / Re: Wood Fired Boiler Install
« on: October 16, 2018, 10:19:15 AM »
Next up is the construction of the outside piping. I'll need to connect these pipes to a vertical transition vicinity the gutter drain piping.

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Alternative Energy / Re: Wood Fired Boiler Install
« on: October 16, 2018, 10:17:35 AM »
Next up I experimented with used trampoline steel springs. The nose up attitude of the unit did not change. At this point, I set the project aside for the evening to give me some "Think time" to sort through this some more.

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Alternative Energy / Re: Wood Fired Boiler Install
« on: October 16, 2018, 10:15:53 AM »
Rubber; because I was thinking of isolating the sounds the heater may make from the bedroom just above.

When we hung the unit, it did not hang level, so I moved the front eye-bolt aft, and it still hung backside low

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Alternative Energy / Re: Wood Fired Boiler Install
« on: October 16, 2018, 10:13:44 AM »
Not knowing exactly how I would suspend the unit, I started with doubled rubber bungee straps.

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Alternative Energy / Re: Wood Fired Boiler Install
« on: October 16, 2018, 10:12:31 AM »
Then I created a base plate made from OSB to catch the various framing members and serve as a strong base. To those I attached 2 X 6 boards with eye bolts screwed into place, and braced all that. Some of that is screwed all the way into the parent framing inside the wall. It is plenty strong

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Alternative Energy / Re: Wood Fired Boiler Install
« on: October 16, 2018, 10:09:54 AM »
Just like before the unit was built up with soldered on 1" NPT male stubs, then fitted with a brass PEX adapter

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Alternative Energy / Re: Wood Fired Boiler Install
« on: October 16, 2018, 10:08:37 AM »
So we finished installing and wrapping the pipes in the attic spaces and securing them to rafter members with clamps.
We then fashioned a piece of OSB to fit the backside of the big garage wall which will support the PEX so that it doesn't tug at the drywall.

With all that done, next up is the installation of the big garage heater. I plan to hang it so first we installed eye-bolts to the top panel. After removing the screws, the panel underside was accessible. I used Nylon locking nuts on the inside and flange nuts on the top side to lock it all together

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D.O.T. / Re: WDYDT (What Did You Do Today)
« on: October 16, 2018, 09:59:56 AM »
It's kind of ironic the guy that burned most the houses down is in jail now. Somebody burned his house down.

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There definitely are two distinctly different kentucky's. Remember in the east of the state is where the Hatfields and the McCoys had their little falling out. Ironically, a McCoy was my boy's bible teacher for several years. She was wonderful!

Generalizing always has its pitfalls...

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D.O.T. / Re: WDYDT (What Did You Do Today)
« on: October 16, 2018, 09:56:14 AM »
Not to be a stickler on details but last I checked the tuck led in welfare recipients......
Talk about a sour puss rainin' on someone's parade...

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Shops Garages and Barns / Re: New GLO Shop
« on: October 16, 2018, 09:54:58 AM »
Dave, she already commandeered the whole mezzanine. Why would she need a rack? A rack indicates permanence & that ain?t a happening....
Ha!

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Build Threads / Re: 2000 XJ
« on: October 16, 2018, 09:54:23 AM »
 :likebutton: :likebutton:

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D.O.T. / Re: WDYDT (What Did You Do Today)
« on: October 15, 2018, 11:43:48 PM »
Yea, Kentucky is nothing at all like what I hear from the coasts. We are more rural than not, and in the heart of the bible belt. We are conservative in our ways and don't like a bunch of rules and regulations. Life is pretty good when dealing with that as the foundation. No car inspections. Police are respected. We respect the flag, military, clergy, police, the elderly and ladies. We use sir and mam alot along with a host of local "Sayings" that abbreviate what we are saying.

We tend toward common sense although stupid people are constantly coming in and trying to change things. For the most part, we just don't let them do it. Land and homes and life in general is inexpensive and I guess our taxes are too in comparison to the coasts. We do not have a bunch of social programs or homeless people. We have long hunting seasons and a lot of people actually shoot deer for food. The places that process natural game are plentiful. We grow all sorts of stuff so a good percentage of the food is local. We brew our own beer, whisky, bourbon, and shine. We are the nations biggest producer of hardwood, and although millions of trees get harvested, you scarcely notice because the state is big and our population density is low. Heck in the county where my farm is, there are only 2,100 people IN THE WHOLE COUNTY!

You hear gunfire a lot, but none of it is gang or violence related or criminal, people just shoot alot here. On any given weekend you can hear fully automatic gunfire, and we like that. Knob Creek machine gun range is here. The fishing is good with plentiful small mouth bass, catfish, bluegill, and sun grannies. We wave at people we don't know out of habit. We do it all the time. Not in town, but out in the country. A great percentage of us go to church on sundays. A bunch also go on wednesdays and friday nights. We vote republican for the federal offices and oftentimes democrat for the local jobs.

We mind our own business as a rule, and let things slide. We do settle things with knuckles on occasion...Checked that block in the past 10 years! All in all we have little oversight and control, but we seem to manage pretty well without the rules. I like Kentucky

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D.O.T. / Re: WDYDT (What Did You Do Today)
« on: October 15, 2018, 04:39:49 PM »
^^^ With all that crap you can keep your 330 days of good weather, I'll take seasons and rain and the right to shoot the likes of the scum you refer to!

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D.O.T. / Re: WDYDT (What Did You Do Today)
« on: October 15, 2018, 09:59:41 AM »
Sounds like life is movin' right along...

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Cooking equipment / Re: camp chef
« on: October 14, 2018, 10:56:06 PM »
Larry's cookin at the shop...Everyone's invited! Yippee!

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Alternative Energy / Re: Wood Fired Boiler Install
« on: October 14, 2018, 10:54:42 PM »
I want to see how this works but it would work here just for getting the wood all the time.

Seeing the pipe in the attic, will that be supported somehow? A lot of weight there with water in there.
Yea, I am screwing hold downs where the pipe crosses truss members. Almost done!

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CIEMR / Kavanaugh comes clean, I'm shocked!
« on: October 14, 2018, 10:53:11 PM »
Kavanaugh comes clean about his high school and college years......

"I spent the last two years of high school in a daze, locking away the questions that life seemed insistent on imposing. I kept playing basketball, attended classes sparingly, drank beer heavily, and tried drugs enthusiastically. I discovered that it didn't make any difference if you smoked reefer in the white class mates sparkling new van, or in the dorm room with some brother you'd met down at the gym, or on the beach with a couple of Hawaiian kids who had dropped out of school and now spent most of their time looking for an excuse to brawl."


Just kidding....That's from Obama's book describing HIS high school and college days.
 
Double Standard Nowadays?
LOOK IT UP.  OBAMA'S STATEMENT IS TRUE

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D.O.T. / Re: WDYDT (What Did You Do Today)
« on: October 14, 2018, 07:38:44 PM »
So I'm all tired.

We had room clearing training today after church, at the church.

With the crazy level increasing daily in the 'Merica, we are stepping up our training to be ready to squash any credible threat that presents on property. I would have never imagined I'd be training civilians to mil standards and using our techniques. What's more surprising is to see them assimilating the training and getting better every week. Check me here, this is the United States still, right?

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D.O.T. / Re: WDYDT (What Did You Do Today)
« on: October 14, 2018, 07:35:56 PM »
^^^ That and advancing age

It all catches up with us

Maybe but the Breckinridge bourbon will definitely be catching up with me tonight before bed!  :tongue:
Good go-to there!

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Alternative Energy / Re: Wood Fired Boiler Install
« on: October 14, 2018, 07:34:44 PM »
BTW, Folks, talked to Tim and asked if he ever saw any used units. Apparently he does, trade-ins or something like that. THose cost less, just sayin'

Secondly, I mentioned the wide scattering of you Real Men site belongin' peeps. He said he would be willing to meet some half way to deliver. For those in Florida, Texas, and other distant locals. JR, we didn't discuss Kalifornia, but heck you'd have to get permission from the environmental commissar and that would simply be impossible anyway, so no real need to sell into the commune of Kali

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Alternative Energy / Re: Wood Fired Boiler Install
« on: October 14, 2018, 07:30:33 PM »
Are going to address that rust before you are done?
I didn't
Wasn't really thinking about it
But
Now
You have me thinking about it...SHould have done something...

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Alternative Energy / Re: Wood Fired Boiler Install
« on: October 14, 2018, 07:28:21 PM »
That?s a lot of water.

When are you expecting to fire up the boiler?  I built fires in the fireplaces last night, but you have to keep those fed. The idea of the boiler is very tempting, I had looked at them before but now that we are in the new house even more tempting with electric heat.


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Dave, I should be burning wood by the end of the month. I am getting closer by the day. Tasks yet to complete:
1. Run circuit to breaker panel
2. Run underground wiring to boiler and wires to the second garage heater
3. Bury the PEX outside lines
4. Construct a PEX/PVC heat pipe to connect to roof
5. Punch a hole in the foundation and connect PEX
6. Attach pumps and plumbing fixtures to back of boiler
7. Fill with water and purge system of air
8. Start heating with dead ash trees! ;-)))

Fueling is a 2X per day exercise 0800/2000

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D.O.T. / Re: WDYDT (What Did You Do Today)
« on: October 14, 2018, 06:18:23 PM »
^^^ That and advancing age

It all catches up with us

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Alternative Energy / Re: Wood Fired Boiler Install
« on: October 14, 2018, 06:16:24 PM »
Then I created a ledge on either side with some aluminum angle that is pop riveted to the plenum walls
Surprised JR didn't ask you why your heater looked like it once had 30 gallons of water in it.
(I assume the drain plugged up at one time? condensation?)
Korrekt!

So most of the summer I kept hearing water dripping, when it was quiet

So one day I investigated and was shocked to find that much standing water.

I drilled a quick 3/8" hole in the bottom and solved the problem

Can you believe that!

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Shops Garages and Barns / Re: New GLO Shop
« on: October 13, 2018, 10:38:29 PM »
Shawn,
If you want just use the Real Man website here to post your products. I don't care, and hey, let me ask the owner...OK, he said it's OK, so if you want to we could build you a section so that JR could find the parts he is looking for  :smiley:

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Hide Site / Re: Hide site, retirement site.
« on: October 13, 2018, 10:36:02 PM »
That is really looking nice!

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Alternative Energy / Re: Wood Fired Boiler Install
« on: October 13, 2018, 10:34:25 PM »
Getting there pretty nice. I was thinking of building the slide for the exchanger the same way as you posted.

As a thought, have you thought about using quick disconnects on the lines for maintenance? You could secure the lines better and still have access. It is low pressure so the only issue would be flow.
I did JR
But the heat exchangers shouldn't have to be looked out for the next ten years. I will however pull the hot water heater and clean annually, but my plan there is to just release the stainless clamp to disconnect the lines, then reclamp them back on afterward. Every once in awhile, I'll cut 1/2" off the end of the line to get to fresh PEX to get a good seal when reclamping.

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Alternative Energy / Re: Wood Fired Boiler Install
« on: October 13, 2018, 04:54:18 PM »
We managed to run the other end of the lines to the other side of the roof, where they make a turn downward through the soffet to the outside where I will connect to lines close to the boiler

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Alternative Energy / Re: Wood Fired Boiler Install
« on: October 13, 2018, 04:52:46 PM »
I had the pre-Rangers cover the lines with some poly foam I picked up at SLOWES

In this secluded cavity of my wandering attic, the lines penetrate the drywall out into the main garage space. This will eventually make you happy.

Why you, you ask?

Because in that now heated garage, many more disinteresting pics will be taken of many more abandoned projects, which will at least entertain for you for the moment

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Alternative Energy / Re: Wood Fired Boiler Install
« on: October 13, 2018, 04:49:01 PM »
Then, after cutting an access into the wall in another room's closet, we pulled the PEX all over the attic cavity

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Alternative Energy / Re: Wood Fired Boiler Install
« on: October 13, 2018, 04:47:16 PM »
...And made the hot water line connections

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Alternative Energy / Re: Wood Fired Boiler Install
« on: October 13, 2018, 04:45:54 PM »
That provided a perfect shelf for the HE to rest on, so I installed that next

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Alternative Energy / Re: Wood Fired Boiler Install
« on: October 13, 2018, 04:44:53 PM »
Then I created a ledge on either side with some aluminum angle that is pop riveted to the plenum walls

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Alternative Energy / Re: Wood Fired Boiler Install
« on: October 13, 2018, 04:43:21 PM »
Now the idea here is to create a shelf from the folded out tabs, but in this case, they interfered with the flange on the HE so I cut them back, and wrapped the cut out with 100mph tape to prevent cuts (On ME!!)

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