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Offline Dawg25385

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Marine Court Martialed for Bible verse??
« on: May 26, 2015, 11:28:34 PM »
You guys see this? I just read about it for the first time tonight... Seems a dishonorable discharge and reduced rank were just a tad harsh.

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2015/05/26/marine-court-martialed-for-refusing-to-remove-bible-verse.html

What are your thoughts? No real mystery how you'll think of displaying a bible verse, but how about the defiance of orders to remove it?
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Re: Marine Court Martialed for Bible verse??
« Reply #1 on: May 27, 2015, 06:45:21 AM »
Self-representation was a mistake- the rest is outrageous and troubling, and with Obummers purge of Kool-aide free Officers from the military it's not a surprising outcome for said Marine!  Not long before "Semper Fidelis" is changed to "Always Compliant"
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Re: Marine Court Martialed for Bible verse??
« Reply #2 on: May 27, 2015, 07:56:22 AM »
This whole thing stinks.

First of all it says the PC embracers out number those with common sense in her chain of command, something I find troubling. It is that inherent common sense that causes men like Nate, who still serves to be able to make a split second decision based on his morals and beliefs when he is calling for and placing deadly artillery fires onto a target.

You need something as a foundation, a bedrock. Something good and fair and truthful from which you build upon. A strong belief in God and in Jesus the Christ is exactly that good bedrock thing I am talking about.

As an instructor pilot I was required to study the psychology of learning. I "Learned" that we view things through our Affectations. They are this moral and other compass(s) I speak of. I may see kicking a cat around as a bad thing, but another might see it as fun.

A part of my job in the cockpit was to ferret out these affectations so that I could make sure no matter what a person feels or believes, he/she would add power and a flare at just the right moment in an engine out autrotation for example.

Now this Marine's Affectations were clearly based on her Christian bedrock. She was a warrior, as all Marines are. She saw her chosen duty, killing the enemy, even if she was a clerk in an office, she saw her duty through those Christian beliefs, so when she thought of being that warrior, it manifested itself in a biblical verse.

Trying to get her to remove it says that no one understood this critical component of psychology. Not that I would expect a junior NCO to know that, although some might, but her more senior officers certainly should have. They would have been faced with a dilemma. They would have a Lance Corporal (Which is still a private in the Army) who disobeyed an order from a NCO. THat's bad, can't have that. But was the order reasonable...or legal??? I'd want to know the circumstances of this charge. Once I learned of it, I would have talked with the commander of that NCO to provide some "Clarity"  He/she would have then chatted with the NCO and his superior sergeant to figure out how to get this thing fixed, and the problem would have been solved.

But with a Obamaized military running around afraid of their shadows that they may offend some gay marines necking in the bathroom, well, we have no moral compass. Just a bunch of orders driven from farked up executive orders.

And that boys and girls is how just one man can ruin a fine organization and a country.

Obama and the people who put him there are clearly represent everything that is wrong with the United States that we believe still exists.
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Re: Marine Court Martialed for Bible verse??
« Reply #3 on: May 27, 2015, 09:26:06 AM »
de-ja-vue !

semper fidelis = always faithful
god, country, corps

I thought these were the motto of the CORPS?
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Re: Marine Court Martialed for Bible verse??
« Reply #4 on: May 27, 2015, 12:47:57 PM »
Kinda like firing and persecuting a Chaplain for ministering according to his faith when, in order to be a Chaplain, you must be affiliated with a recognized a denomination.  Where have we heard that recently?
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Re: Marine Court Martialed for Bible verse??
« Reply #5 on: May 27, 2015, 08:56:29 PM »
Well, I'll tip my hat to the young lady for standing her ground. And look at the mess the Corps just inherited!
A Georgetown law professor and Liberty university. I'd say they (the Marines responsible) are toast.

My money is on it being the decision of some LTC who has a God complex, and all this heat from this private will make mincemeat of his career. Good thing, a guy like that should not be leading.
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