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Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
« Reply #100 on: September 20, 2018, 10:51:07 PM »
You?re only an 8hr drive.


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Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
« Reply #101 on: September 20, 2018, 10:59:50 PM »
Reno is about a 3rd of the way and I'm due for a trip. (let me out of here!!)
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Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
« Reply #102 on: September 22, 2018, 02:50:01 AM »
Got the 60 out so I can wood for the fence tomorrow. $8 dolly from HF and a couple 4x make for easy moving. MC jack was not working at all!

Listing a few things on CL and pirate to recoop some funds.
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Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
« Reply #103 on: September 22, 2018, 02:58:05 AM »
Didn't realize I started this thread well over 3 years ago! I now have just under 160k on it, runs great but needs a better tune.
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Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
« Reply #104 on: September 22, 2018, 08:06:55 AM »
I know what you cna do with an 06 with 160K on it... sell it to me! Just kidding.. for now
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Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
« Reply #105 on: September 22, 2018, 09:11:59 AM »
I know what you cna do with an 06 with 160K on it... sell it to me! Just kidding.. for now


I have an 07 classic with 160k on it that I have been considering selling. I just dumped 5 grand in it so I am going to want a little more than the book says its worth.
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Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
« Reply #106 on: September 22, 2018, 01:08:41 PM »
I see them on CL for around 25K around here, not terrible.

I can see a trans build for me in the next year or so. Never had an issue and has the transgo jr, but I push it time to time and it gets hot to easy.

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Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
« Reply #107 on: September 22, 2018, 09:25:36 PM »
About $25k is what I value mine at as well. Only 113k on it.


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Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
« Reply #108 on: September 23, 2018, 11:56:09 AM »
JR, SAS, gutsy move Mav!
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Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
« Reply #109 on: September 23, 2018, 02:28:02 PM »
Nice thing is I have most of the axle/steering parts already. Sean has a set of RC gears. I make hangers, go with chevy 56in springs (cheap with many options) and I am set. Biggest expense will be shocks.

Dang, those 37s are big!!
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Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
« Reply #110 on: September 23, 2018, 02:42:08 PM »
I like those tires
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« Reply #111 on: September 23, 2018, 02:57:29 PM »
Those are the STT, I got the MTP made for DT by Cooper. They have a little friendlier center treat for maybe longer wear and a touch quieter.

Those are the 37s I'm getting with my worn 35s behind em. Nice thing with DT I can get either tire!

We need to talk some more to see what I can get from you on this.
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Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
« Reply #112 on: September 23, 2018, 03:08:46 PM »
Those are the STT, I got the MTP made for DT by Cooper. They have a little friendlier center treat for maybe longer wear and a touch quieter.

Those are the 37s I'm getting with my worn 35s behind em. Nice thing with DT I can get either tire!

We need to talk some more to see what I can get from you on this.

I understand, hit me up this week and I can text you some pics etc until new site is ready.
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What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
« Reply #113 on: September 23, 2018, 05:07:10 PM »
Why not get the newer ford front end style sas kit. ?

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« Reply #114 on: September 23, 2018, 05:58:58 PM »
Those are the STT, I got the MTP made for DT by Cooper. They have a little friendlier center treat for maybe longer wear and a touch quieter.

Those are the 37s I'm getting with my worn 35s behind em. Nice thing with DT I can get either tire!

We need to talk some more to see what I can get from you on this.

I understand, hit me up this week and I can text you some pics etc until new site is ready.

Will do, plus the gears. They are Tate approved,,,,,,,,,,,,
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Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
« Reply #115 on: September 23, 2018, 06:07:52 PM »
Why not get the newer ford front end style sas kit. ?

http://www.wfoconcepts.com/cr/Chevy-GMC-2500-3500-HD-00-10/9105/10446

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Well, its $1500 to start with and not made for my axle. It has crossed my mind (carefull)

Plus I want leafs so I don't have to mess with coil over mounts and coil overs that cost as much as the truck! The normal spring for this is 47in. If I use a gm 56in spring I can get about any rate I want and they are cheap!
 
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Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
« Reply #116 on: September 23, 2018, 06:16:05 PM »
That kills the ride quality a fair amount doesn?t it?


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« Reply #117 on: September 23, 2018, 10:14:58 PM »
Leaf springs? Can't ride worse than a torsion bar and its a truck. I like a firm ride not an Escalade.
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« Reply #118 on: September 24, 2018, 12:17:53 AM »
I hear H does too.  Ol Ken!?


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« Reply #119 on: September 24, 2018, 08:27:46 AM »
JR. How do you determine the right spring rate?  I imagine it would ride funny if the spring rates were way off.  Is there a way to get it right without having to do trial and error?
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« Reply #120 on: September 24, 2018, 08:34:56 AM »
Dave, thanks for that link.  I think I'll get those shackle flip kit and get rid of the crappy blocks.

Next thing, after replacing the hydroboost that has been sitting on my bench for 5 months... is to put a grizzly locker in the rear.  The G80 is toast.
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Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
« Reply #121 on: September 24, 2018, 08:59:36 AM »
Dave, thanks for that link.  I think I'll get those shackle flip kit and get rid of the crappy blocks.

Next thing, after replacing the hydroboost that has been sitting on my bench for 5 months... is to put a grizzly locker in the rear.  The G80 is toast.

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Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
« Reply #122 on: September 24, 2018, 10:02:30 AM »
Dave, thanks for that link.  I think I'll get those shackle flip kit and get rid of the crappy blocks.

Next thing, after replacing the hydroboost that has been sitting on my bench for 5 months... is to put a grizzly locker in the rear.  The G80 is toast.
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Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
« Reply #123 on: September 24, 2018, 12:38:35 PM »
I plan on a rear locker since I'm doing gears, as well as the shackle flip.

Should be done, well before Square D is,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, :cool:
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Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
« Reply #124 on: September 24, 2018, 09:39:59 PM »
I want to start getting parts for this as I rebuild the front end.

Pretty sure I can use almost everything from my dodge dana 60 on this, cept the gears and that is covered. That should cover the cross-over steering and internals, less outer 35s?

So I need spring brackets, springs, shocks and hoops. Not sure if I want to fill the frame when I cut all the stuff off. It would look cleaner though. Also do I need a panhard bar, GMs don't use em. Then a pitman arm for the crossover and I will use tierod ends. A anti sway bar is in the plans.

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Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
« Reply #125 on: September 24, 2018, 10:08:17 PM »
Track bar, yes I would. Lift springs etc. good idea.....

I have any lower shock brackets you might need all formed from 1/4?, straight, 45 degree or 90 degree to axle shafts. Torch stock ones off an upgrade while moving them higher so they are not dragging on things off road.
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« Reply #126 on: September 25, 2018, 09:16:41 AM »
Gears, lockers, axle shafts, I've got them all in Fresno, just let me know what you're looking for JR.
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« Reply #127 on: September 25, 2018, 11:13:32 AM »
Hoping I can use most pf what I have for the dodge dana 60 on the ford. Which outers might be a question with the ford hubs, but the outers can switch over right? Fords are .6 longer and have diff brakes than the dodge.
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« Reply #128 on: September 25, 2018, 12:42:06 PM »
Ask Tate or even Norm but I think you can trim those stubs down and run them on the Dodge setup

Edit: think I had that backwards in my head. You have the shorter dodge stubs already so no cutting down to work
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« Reply #129 on: September 25, 2018, 12:53:04 PM »
Also something to consider the Ford oem knuckles I think are the weakest of the bunch. May not be a bad idea to upgrade those to run other components you have already
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« Reply #130 on: September 25, 2018, 01:18:41 PM »
Have talked to Tate a little. Prob keep the axle as it is more or less. Sure gears and rebuild even keeping the ford brakes.

I do need to address the tone ring, which looks to be a 55. Kits are around for it, about $100 and machine the hubs (which I can do).

Also need to address the tcase. Will need a yoke eliminator kit and rear case since I got the rub. Thinking about upgrading to better case and going manual. Its a 263XHD and there are a few compatible (mp1225/6, mp1625/6). Need a 29 spline input and a 31 rear slip.

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« Reply #131 on: October 03, 2018, 12:29:11 AM »
Got the lift sold, just waiting on funds and boxed it up for fasenal shipping.
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« Reply #132 on: October 03, 2018, 01:04:37 AM »
At first it seemed simple, but there is no SAS kit for the Dmax and a HP D60 with 36.5 leaf mounts. I want to stay with leafs, coilovers break the bank in many ways.

Now Sky has a kit for the later HP D60, but it has the 8x170 bolt pattern and ball joints. That D60 also has 38.5 pads and uses angled shackles. I thought why not just push my mounts out 1 inch or so and go with the same idea, but with a small twist (well no twist). The SKY SAS kit is not expensive, but all I need are front and read hanger and some shackles, right?

So my idea is to move the pads out a little on the axle. 1 side is easy and the HP side is a little more work but not hard. This may not even be needed once I measure some more, but my frame is 38 inside to inside now.

So front mounts can go where I want really, just match the pad width. Shawn tells me keeping the spring mounts sorta level works best and caster can be managed with shims if needed. For the rear mounts you drill the frame and weld bushings in place. Plenty of meat there on the frame, inside and out. So why not extend the upper tube and use a longer bushing vs the angled shackle? Then on the spring end just use an alum spacer (or weld a steel spacer) giving me straight shackles? This would add about an inch to each rear shackle bolt.

Just wondering if the stress on the longer bolts would be to much? The upper should be no concern as the shear would be on the ends just like a short bushing. The lower with the spacer might be a concern, but would it?

After posting I think a welded steel spacer on the shackle would be a better idea placing all the stress on the bolt ends as is the normal

Here is a pic showing how SKY does it and my idea.
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Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
« Reply #133 on: October 03, 2018, 10:22:26 AM »
Looks fine to me but there will be a lot of twisting on the spacer, so I would probably leave it loose over welding it and weekening the shackle.

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« Reply #134 on: October 03, 2018, 10:28:43 AM »
Ditch that aluminum spacer or steel one, bend the outside shackle so it has a dog leg in it. Long bolt on top and standard bolt on bottom....
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« Reply #135 on: October 03, 2018, 12:04:05 PM »
Sounds like something a hippie would do.
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« Reply #136 on: October 03, 2018, 02:16:01 PM »
So you like the dogleg over the straight shackle? Shorter bolts will be stronger and allow more flex.

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« Reply #137 on: October 03, 2018, 07:14:34 PM »
I like the dog leg version.....
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« Reply #138 on: October 03, 2018, 08:03:36 PM »
Why not just re position the spring pads and save all the extra engineering?


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« Reply #139 on: October 04, 2018, 09:46:56 AM »
Hey, you quit that sense making talk there Charles!
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« Reply #140 on: October 04, 2018, 10:51:19 AM »
Why not just re position the spring pads and save all the extra engineering?


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« Reply #141 on: October 04, 2018, 11:17:11 AM »
Or if you want to save some work, just reposition the left one and shift the whole axle so the right one lines up.


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« Reply #142 on: October 04, 2018, 12:59:39 PM »
Or if you want to save some work, just reposition the left one and shift the whole axle so the right one lines up.


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« Reply #143 on: October 04, 2018, 01:32:22 PM »
Or if you want to save some work, just reposition the left one and shift the whole axle so the right one lines up.


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How would that work? One wheel out 2 inches more that the other  :huh:


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Yep, easiest is to move the pads, use the kit, done. Shawn wants me to go with deaver springs, love to but a grand for springs!!
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Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
« Reply #144 on: October 04, 2018, 01:37:12 PM »
A grand for springs is a small part of the project it sounds like to me. Good springs mean a lot in the end game

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« Reply #145 on: October 04, 2018, 03:09:09 PM »
For the record, I told him do it right once and be done....

Deaver has about the best name and I told him to call them and let them help him get the correct spring for his build, they are the experts imo.

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Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
« Reply #146 on: October 04, 2018, 03:11:26 PM »
Or if you want to save some work, just reposition the left one and shift the whole axle so the right one lines up.


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How would that work? One wheel out 2 inches more that the other  :huh:


Anyway I had a nice long post and never submitted it  :popcorn:


Yep, easiest is to move the pads, use the kit, done. Shawn wants me to go with deaver springs, love to but a grand for springs!!

When your teeth are chipped and your eyeballs look like googly eyes on springs.......$1000 will be well worth it!
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Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
« Reply #147 on: October 04, 2018, 04:42:54 PM »
Same guy that wants you to put a shackle in the vise and beat it with a hammer wants you to go with primo springs? Is this guy from Denver or somethin'? :)
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Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
« Reply #148 on: October 04, 2018, 05:00:41 PM »
Same guy that wants you to put a shackle in the vise and beat it with a hammer wants you to go with primo springs? Is this guy from Denver or somethin'? :)

Hey H lover, I sold JR a press brake for his hf bender. Apparently us hippies are a little more refined then you all down in the desert using vices and hammers to bend things. You may want to drink some fluids I think your dehydrated and starting to get a bit confused....

BTW, this is going to be a daily driver and I know how much you chevy guys like your trucks to ride like cars so that was the other thing I took into consideration when making that recommendation.  :tongue:
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Re: What do you do with a 2006, 115k DMax,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
« Reply #149 on: October 04, 2018, 07:08:57 PM »
Same guy that wants you to put a shackle in the vise and beat it with a hammer wants you to go with primo springs? Is this guy from Denver or somethin'? :)

Hopefully some day you?ll have to put Hildabeast?s shackles in a vice to take her on a date behind some thick walls and high fences!  Better yet, put her in a vice and beat her with a hammer!
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