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« Reply #1050 on: July 06, 2018, 10:17:19 PM »
Really nice job all around.


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« Reply #1051 on: July 06, 2018, 10:27:47 PM »
I can’t take credit. I just wrote the check. Tomorrow I’ll start a materials list for finishing the sea can.  7/16 osb interior, led lights, 6 duplex outlets, shelving, sub panel.  Then pressure wash and spray the outside in emerald green. I’ll rent the trencher from HD to run power and Ethernet next weekend.


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« Reply #1052 on: July 07, 2018, 09:03:04 AM »
Here’s the finished sea can.

Going to start hanging 7/16 osb for interior
 


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« Reply #1053 on: July 07, 2018, 09:53:18 AM »
Here’s the finished sea can.

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Charles, is that a 40 footer? Any idea what you’ll have in total cost for that & are you costing the roof day with like that silver roofing rubberized covered paint? Just thinking for long term leak proof & to reflect some heat.
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« Reply #1054 on: July 07, 2018, 10:22:29 AM »
Sean, I'll be in it for close to $7k when its completely finished out with mini split, insulation, osb interior, electrical, lighting etc.

I'll pressure wash it for paint here soon and inspect the roof.  Its a CWO container, so its in great shape and I doubt the roof needs much.  Its in the shade for the most part and the 6 inches of foam insulation on the interior roof should make it as cool as a Yeti cooler.

The long term plan may be to buy another one just like it and put it parallel to it about 25 ft apart and cover both and the open area with c purlin and R panel roofing to create a covered parking area for the equipment.  That'll be a few years away more than likely
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« Reply #1055 on: July 07, 2018, 11:59:42 AM »
Ok menses. This is not a redneck test.

Some of you may recall that I need to move my seacan about 3 feet back lengthwise to accommodate future expansion of the shop. It tares at 9600 and probably 10500 with the lumber in it. It currently rests on a rr tie at each end.

There is a conveniently placed tree that I can attach to.

I was going to rent 2 six ton lever hoists but I got to thinking. I have a 25 ton log splitter.

I was thinking of attaching the base end of the beam to the tree with straps or chain and then using the ram to press the chain( pulling it) forward about 1 ft at a time then re connect the pulling chain and pressing again. You get the idea.

I’d have to make a metal cover for the wedge so the point doesn’t cut the chain.

Is my logic off base?  Why wouldn’t that work?


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« Reply #1056 on: July 07, 2018, 12:20:03 PM »
Could you use some large logs to roll it back on, if it’s on RR ties already, lift it up more to the log height slide under and push. 


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« Reply #1057 on: July 07, 2018, 12:36:30 PM »
Dave I think 25 tons of force would move it if it was glued in place.

Lifting it is as much of a challenge as pulling it. The plan is to lay 2 more rr ties and drag it onto them.


Just wondering if I’m overlooking some safety aspect of using the log splitter.


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« Reply #1058 on: July 07, 2018, 01:13:33 PM »

I think it would work, even if you had to set up a double pull with wire rope. Protect the tree bark too unless it is history after the move.
Added: Call in a friend with a good sized winch on their truck. Rig it up and be done.
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« Reply #1059 on: July 07, 2018, 01:52:19 PM »
Depends on how strong the log splitter (trailer?) mount/strap setup is. If it won't hand at least 20k of compression or stretch, then it might be sketchy. Sounds like a high lift might be safer...and that's sayin' somethin'. Of course if we had a crayon drawing of the situation we would be of greater help....or you can just try it and post pics of the carnage after.
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« Reply #1060 on: July 07, 2018, 02:27:09 PM »
Sounds like it would work as long as you mount the chain/straps in the right place and not bend the splitter.
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« Reply #1061 on: July 07, 2018, 02:28:47 PM »
It will probably work, hope you don’t tweak your log splitter. But just in case the whole thing goes south and the splitter ends up in the pond or something similiar. Can we request the wife unit video this for us? :popcorn:
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« Reply #1062 on: July 07, 2018, 02:34:54 PM »
I’ll make sure and get video.

I’m going to split a piece of heavy wall pipe to fit over the wedge edge and make sure the vectors are linear with the main beam. Use a recovery strap on the tree and chain to the container.




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« Reply #1063 on: July 07, 2018, 03:44:23 PM »
single cut length of pipe should work, it will spring open and should fit blade good...
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« Reply #1064 on: July 07, 2018, 04:14:06 PM »
Hum...What would Don do..Stay away from that and all should be good.

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« Reply #1065 on: July 07, 2018, 04:26:48 PM »
Hum...What would Don do..Stay away from that and all should be good.


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« Reply #1066 on: July 07, 2018, 06:12:14 PM »
and why cant your tractor not push it back the foot or 2 that you need?

if you place the bucket on the bottom frame portion of the container you should be good?  just go slow and don't ram anything?

if all else fails, give boone a call and see if he can come down with something?
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« Reply #1067 on: July 07, 2018, 06:24:09 PM »
and why cant your tractor not push it back the foot or 2 that you need?

if you place the bucket on the bottom frame portion of the container you should be good?  just go slow and don't ram anything?

if all else fails, give boone a call and see if he can come down with something?



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« Reply #1068 on: July 07, 2018, 06:30:30 PM »
Bob's feeling froggy today. lol   :beercheers:
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« Reply #1069 on: July 07, 2018, 06:37:29 PM »
Well maybe...If it don't move ya got to hit it harder.

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« Reply #1070 on: July 07, 2018, 06:42:44 PM »
I thought Charles owned like 12 chevy trucks? Can’t you hook a couple to it and tug it?

Oh wait, I forgot. Sorry
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« Reply #1071 on: July 07, 2018, 07:56:53 PM »
Shawn, aside from the Chevy poke. There’s simply not enough weight to get traction. Plus the direction I’m going is further into the woods and not accessible by truck. It would have to be a push, on gravel no less.

I have a 30000 lb tow strap and will probably pick up another and a couple 6 ft 1/2 inch grade 80 chains

Those will hook to the corners of the seacan and then to the tow strap which will allow adjustments as the container begins to move. 

That’s probably a couple weeks away but I promise to get video.

In the mean time got started on the ceiling with some osb I had on hand.  Then went to Lowe’s and got 30 more sheets




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« Reply #1072 on: July 07, 2018, 09:10:33 PM »
Thirty sheets?  What did you pay per sheet?

What truck did you put them in, or flatbed trailer

My truck squats a whole lot with that much in the bed.  Enough I won’t do more than that


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« Reply #1073 on: July 07, 2018, 09:31:29 PM »
I sure would like to see the action, don't think one truck will move it unless it is tied to a tree with a wrecker between the truck and the load. BUT I am from Washington so just need to see it on video to believe it.

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« Reply #1074 on: July 07, 2018, 09:39:30 PM »
I believe in the power of hydraulics. Video will be available.

Dave I put the 30 sheets in the trailer.

7/16 osb is 46lb a sheet. Little over 1300 lbs. should be an easy load for a 3/4 ton if it’s set to factory rake

The dually just laughs.  That weight just makes it ride better. IIRC the payload on the dually is 4700lbs


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« Reply #1075 on: July 07, 2018, 09:57:52 PM »
Hum...What would Don do..Stay away from that and all should be good.
Well, not so quick there Tonto!

I'd take a run at it with the rubber track loader and it would move as far as I wanted!

But that contraption Tex is talkin' about sounds like it would work, but we'd need a vid just in case it didn't! ;-))
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« Reply #1076 on: July 07, 2018, 10:28:16 PM »
Tex,
How about two RR ties longways and jack up the end with a bottle jack and put some 1” conduit under for rollers ( like the Egyptians).  A couple come a longs should move it pretty easy.
You’re not lifting 10k just moving some of it.

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« Reply #1077 on: July 07, 2018, 10:30:18 PM »
Let’s put it up on peg legs.   Three footers.  Than you just push it over and it should fall the distance of the legs it’s standing on


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« Reply #1078 on: July 07, 2018, 10:49:48 PM »
So let's add a couple thousand pounds to it before we try to move it, maybe it'll be easier. : Knucklehead

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« Reply #1079 on: July 07, 2018, 11:14:09 PM »
Hum...What would Don do..Stay away from that and all should be good.
Well, not so quick there Tonto!

I'd take a run at it with the rubber track loader and it would move as far as I wanted!

But that contraption Tex is talkin' about sounds like it would work, but we'd need a vid just in case it didn't! ;-))



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« Reply #1080 on: July 08, 2018, 02:28:56 AM »
So let's add a couple thousand pounds to it before we try to move it, maybe it'll be easier. : Knucklehead

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I was thinking the same thing!

Why not double or triple (maybe 4x?) over some line in pulleys to a big tree behind the sea can? Will increase your pulling power with less effort.


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« Reply #1081 on: July 08, 2018, 07:12:41 AM »
Regardless, as long as it’s not digging in the dirt it should move pretty easy. I do agree a couple snatch blocks would help. Another thought is hire a local wrecker (as cheap as buy more gear) to come in with his truck winch. Between that and rigged off a couple trees I’m sure you could make it work too if he can anchor his truck to a tree on the front end or several chevys (ironic I know!).

Honestly, the log splitter may work but it would not be my first choice for the record. Too each their own and we’ve been promised video so on the other hand it should be interesting either way.
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« Reply #1082 on: July 08, 2018, 07:24:20 AM »
All good ideas.  I’m trying to do this without spending a ton on rigging that I don’t have.

Yes, Ken, I added 2000 pounds to the interior finish just to make it a challenge.  :wink

I may use the hi-lift to raise each corner and put some lubricant on the RR ties just to help.

All in all I’ll take it slow,  check angles and bail on it if it looks like it’s not working.  Worst case is pay a mover $650 to pick it up and set it down.


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« Reply #1083 on: July 08, 2018, 08:17:55 AM »
Here’s a question for you- how are you going to anchor the log splitter?  It’s going to need more anchor force than the combined weight and lateral forces you’re putting into play or you will only move your splitter.  That cylinder rate is between the ram and the fixed anchor points with the log rack.
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« Reply #1084 on: July 08, 2018, 11:03:04 AM »
The end of the beam(left side circle) will be strapped to the tree horizontally like it sits. The wedge (right circle) will actuate the pulling strap which will be attached to the corners of the seacan




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« Reply #1085 on: July 08, 2018, 11:11:46 AM »
Have you considered a crane?  My crane guys only charge per hour and $120 bucks in time and safety go a long ways.  Plus he could pick it up and set it down where ever you want with out damaging equipment, the weight might not work so well in that new gravel road.  But maybe it needs compacted too


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« Reply #1086 on: July 08, 2018, 11:32:01 AM »
I think it would be kind of hard to pick up the container with the tree cover it already has?
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« Reply #1087 on: July 08, 2018, 12:19:10 PM »
I say let Charles use the splitter. We could start a wager if there are any takers?

I'm leaning against this working at the moment for the record. I owned a 40 ton splitter and have stalled it out more than once so even though it states 40 ton or less in Charles case I'm not sure that is relevant to this equation. Interesting non the less though, good luck Tex! 
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« Reply #1088 on: July 08, 2018, 01:01:17 PM »
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« Reply #1089 on: July 08, 2018, 01:15:58 PM »
Can't you rig a long line on the go handle of the splitter. You then could get out of the path of flying chain or hot oil from broken lines. If you win the container ends up where you wanted it and you get an I told you so moment. :beercheers:

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« Reply #1090 on: July 08, 2018, 01:47:30 PM »
A couple of pipes on rr ties and you could push it almost by hand.
I moved a 2900# shed on grass with a quad. Shed was on 4 x 4” pipes moved quite easy.

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« Reply #1091 on: July 08, 2018, 02:14:30 PM »
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« Reply #1092 on: July 08, 2018, 04:31:06 PM »
Yeah that should work fine .
I was trying to picture how you were going to attach it since I've never owned, or used a log splitter before. Probably have to make sure the tail end of the beam can't flip out of the strap.

...as long as you quit adding crap, like, we don't want the next pic to show a concrete floor and a lead liner around the perimeter.

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« Reply #1093 on: July 10, 2018, 10:56:56 AM »
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« Reply #1094 on: July 11, 2018, 11:35:10 AM »
Charles, if you are going to use the splitter use only chains. The strap will stretch more than you think it will and you’ll go almost nowhere very slowly.
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« Reply #1095 on: July 13, 2018, 09:58:29 PM »
Well you won’t have to wait long.  Tomorrow the container gets moved.  Got a buddy coming up to help. 

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« Reply #1096 on: July 14, 2018, 01:50:54 PM »


Well that was easy

2 1/4 inch pipe. RR ties for runners.

Shove it with the tractor. Set it back down. Done.

Have video later.


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« Reply #1097 on: July 14, 2018, 01:53:49 PM »
And started on trenching. More like root clearing.  It is slow going. 




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« Reply #1098 on: July 14, 2018, 02:05:53 PM »


Well that was easy

2 1/4 inch pipe. RR ties for runners.

Shove it with the tractor. Set it back down. Done.

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Re: Hide site, retirement site.
« Reply #1099 on: July 14, 2018, 03:24:27 PM »
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Kids today don't know how easy they have it. When I was young, I had to walk 9 feet through shag carpet to change the TV channel.

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