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Re: The Bus
« Reply #350 on: February 24, 2016, 09:58:10 PM »
So a few more parts showed up. I think I need help. It's turning into a fluid change.



Oh and Tater is hooking me up on new seals and bearing for the rear and I'm waiting on new rear disk pads to show up.

Almost think that since everything else is gonna be new that I should throw a locker and new bearings and gears in it too...




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Re: The Bus
« Reply #351 on: February 24, 2016, 10:04:13 PM »
Tater has answered the call for everyone here I think!
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« Reply #352 on: February 24, 2016, 10:05:22 PM »

So a few more parts showed up. I think I need help. It's turning into a fluid change.

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Re: The Bus
« Reply #353 on: February 24, 2016, 10:08:15 PM »
Hey! I heard that!
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« Reply #354 on: February 24, 2016, 11:24:26 PM »
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Re: The Bus
« Reply #355 on: February 25, 2016, 12:14:46 AM »
Just don't let the Jr rangers get a hold of it later. I hear they like the sawsall,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
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« Reply #356 on: February 25, 2016, 06:22:45 AM »
shots fired on the tac topper from left field!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: The Bus
« Reply #357 on: February 25, 2016, 07:18:00 AM »
From henceforth it shall be known as "Toppergate"...........cause it just wouldn't die for Nixon either!
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« Reply #358 on: February 25, 2016, 07:40:58 AM »
A locker would help with drifting.... a possible useful ability.  ;D
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« Reply #359 on: February 25, 2016, 09:38:25 AM »
Just don't let the Jr rangers get a hold of it later. I hear they like the sawsall,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
I should have taken a vid of that

But I have plans of turning them loose with the sawzall on the Hillary or Bernie signs later on in the fall...

I'll film that...
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« Reply #360 on: February 25, 2016, 10:11:11 AM »
Come on Kooter, you can't picture tex playin in the mud with that princess? What's wrong with you! lol
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« Reply #361 on: February 25, 2016, 07:57:24 PM »
I think I see a genuine axle nut socket. I guess that's what they look like. I made one out of necessity as the garage that I was going to loaner one from didn't have the right one.
I just don't want to wind up missing a digit or limb.  I can sometimes get in a hurry to get results.
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« Reply #362 on: February 25, 2016, 09:05:34 PM »
Yep. OTC1929 axle nut socket.



My buddy Tate sent me the axle bearings and seals that arrives today.


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« Reply #363 on: February 25, 2016, 09:26:36 PM »
Ding dong, next delivery. Rear brake.




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« Reply #364 on: February 25, 2016, 09:40:09 PM »
Did he send you the lube locker reusable seal for the rear diff as well?
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« Reply #365 on: February 25, 2016, 09:45:50 PM »
que?!

I know not of what you speak?  Please explain?
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« Reply #366 on: February 25, 2016, 10:00:31 PM »
Don't forget the grizzly grease

You can get some from Ashley.
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« Reply #367 on: February 25, 2016, 10:17:25 PM »
Just don't let the Jr rangers get a hold of it later. I hear they like the sawsall,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
I should have taken a vid of that

But I have plans of turning them loose with the sawzall on the Hillary or Bernie signs later on in the fall...

I'll film that...

Now that could be "pay per view" and donate the proceeds!!!!
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« Reply #368 on: February 25, 2016, 10:24:30 PM »
so I keep seeing different types of seals for the AAAM.

Wondering if there are different styles of seals for these trucks?

I only want to have to do this once....



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« Reply #369 on: February 25, 2016, 10:51:41 PM »
I just reused some rear axle seals in a Dana 70... not sure it's relevant here but, I wanted to contribute. I'd have possibly replaced them with new ones, but no one had any in stock.

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« Reply #370 on: February 25, 2016, 11:03:36 PM »
If I only had your barn....
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« Reply #371 on: February 25, 2016, 11:07:21 PM »
The ones pictured with the bearings will be fine.
I have a mud issue and my vent tube occasionally gets plugged up, alternatively winter it has iced up, from my understanding the main cause of seal failures.
I'd say use what's there and you'll be good.

FWIW, once you do it once they're pretty simple the next times. 
I just don't want to wind up missing a digit or limb.  I can sometimes get in a hurry to get results.
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« Reply #372 on: February 26, 2016, 09:31:37 AM »
My comments to Charles this AM: "These are the older school style seals from the earlier housings that we feel are a better long term fit for the application. They do interchange and are a better seal. Simply put, the seal you took off is GM?s ?upgrade? that essentially took the seal business away from the aftermarket and attempted to get one to purchase from them exclusively. Install as you would any seal, lubricate the lip with bearing grease and lubricate yourself with your beverage of choice and enjoy!"
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« Reply #373 on: February 26, 2016, 11:25:42 AM »
I'm good. Thanks for clarifying, gear god. ( little g)


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« Reply #374 on: February 26, 2016, 01:07:22 PM »
That's right, little g.
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« Reply #375 on: February 27, 2016, 08:45:35 PM »
Ok. Got some work done today.






So pulled the bushings and boots from the caliper brackets and cleaned all the grease before reinstalling the new boots and bushings. Got some cool purple ceramic brake lube and used a 21 mm 12 point socket and a dead blow hammer to install the new boots. Lubed the new bushings and lubed the bore.


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« Reply #376 on: February 27, 2016, 08:47:40 PM »
Got the calipers and new pads mounted.



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« Reply #377 on: February 27, 2016, 08:53:19 PM »
Then started working on the back hubs and brakes. Started with all new parking brakes and hardware.




You assemble the springs and adjuster on the bench and then stretch them over the actuator before installing the pins and retainers.


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« Reply #378 on: February 27, 2016, 08:57:41 PM »
Then I started on the hubs. Removed the old bearings and races and cleaned with brake cleaner.



Then pressed in the outer race over the bearing and secured with the snap ring.
Here a little hint. When removing this snap ring use a punch and hammer and tap the old race towards the outside of the hub from the back. It relieves pressure on the snap ring making it easier to remove.





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« Reply #379 on: February 27, 2016, 09:01:43 PM »
Then comes the inner race. Used the two old races to press them in. Didn't have a race insert big enough. So I used one to get it most of the way in and then added the second and used arbor plates to keep everything square.

Used the same press and plate to install the seal.











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« Reply #380 on: February 27, 2016, 09:07:32 PM »
Lubed the bearings and seal and installed by torquing to 55 while spinning and then back off until the key aligns and then install the key and clip. Put the rotor on making sure the p brake is adjusted. Prepped the rear caliper bracket the same way, removing the old boots and bushing and installing all new stuff with ceramic lube. The. Installed the new OE pads and Russell stainless brake lines.




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« Reply #381 on: February 27, 2016, 09:11:42 PM »
Front finished. The caliper paint was a waste of money. If I wanted to do it right I would have blasted and shot it in multiple coats. Painting with a brush is not ideal.


Now I'm waiting on the felpro gaskets for the axle flange to install the axles and top off with amsoil.

Time to move on to bleeding the brakes and the new exhaust
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« Reply #382 on: February 27, 2016, 09:42:37 PM »
Nice attention to detail in the write up
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« Reply #383 on: February 28, 2016, 04:24:45 PM »
Blasting would have been better and who will see the paint strokes?

It is to purdy to drive, just leave it on blocks.
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« Reply #384 on: February 29, 2016, 07:26:21 AM »
well, just noticed that i cracked a rear rotor when tapping it on with the deadblow hammer.  A small crack right at the edge where the inner casting area is machined thinner to balance it (I think)

So amazon to the rescue.  2 new AC Delco OEM rotors on the way.  Will be replacing those before moving on to bleeding brakes and installing the exhaust.  Will be two weeks before I'm back up there to work on it.
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« Reply #385 on: February 29, 2016, 08:43:28 AM »
RedNeck, you don't miss a thing. You'd have been great as a helicopter pilot. Detail oriented preflighting like that is necessary to the attainment of gray (White) hair!
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« Reply #386 on: February 29, 2016, 08:15:08 PM »
Quite the compliment there, Don.  Not sure I rise to that level.  I did, afterall, turn down a scholarship to the AF Academy....which is a testament to my lack of smarts..

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« Reply #387 on: February 29, 2016, 08:24:24 PM »
Quite the compliment there, Don.  Not sure I rise to that level.  I did, afterall, turn down a scholarship to the AF Academy....which is a testament to my lack of smarts..


What makes you think I rose to that level?

Probably just a big Armee mistake. Some guy was getting sent to flight school, and I was about to get court martialed and sent to nome Alaska. The messenger picked up the wrong letter and some schmuck froze for three years up in the Alaska while I was trying out my look with Ray bans!

You remember the story I wrote where Mitch and I "Test flew" a jet ranger??

That definitely didn't point to my having any special gifts!
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« Reply #388 on: February 29, 2016, 09:07:21 PM »
LOL, yes.  Half the battle is acting like you own it....sure, we're test pilots...
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« Reply #389 on: March 01, 2016, 06:40:58 AM »
So.... I shouldn't paint the calipers then?  8)
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« Reply #390 on: March 01, 2016, 06:50:15 AM »
So.... I shouldn't paint the calipers then?  8)

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« Reply #391 on: March 01, 2016, 07:01:04 AM »
Just you all wait...I am going to be so detail orientated Don is gonna say "By golly, I believe them there Calipers match the inner fender and stuff"  I even found some new old stock only used and not cleaned once brushes.  ;D
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« Reply #392 on: March 01, 2016, 08:02:32 AM »
Just you all wait...I am going to be so detail orientated Don is gonna say "By golly, I believe them there Calipers match the inner fender and stuff"  I even found some new old stock only used and not cleaned once brushes.  ;D
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« Reply #393 on: March 01, 2016, 10:31:10 AM »
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« Reply #394 on: March 01, 2016, 11:05:18 AM »
Lubed the bearings and seal and installed by torquing to 55 while spinning and then back off until the key aligns and then install the key and clip. Put the rotor on making sure the p brake is adjusted. Prepped the rear caliper bracket the same way, removing the old boots and bushing and installing all new stuff with ceramic lube. The. Installed the new OE pads and Russell stainless brake lines.




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« Reply #395 on: March 01, 2016, 08:05:23 PM »
Thanks Tate.  Its dangerous that you have my CC on file.  I could just call and say, "Tate, send me a locker for the front and rear of both trucks and some 4:11s for the Bus...." But then I'd have to add a dog house to that order....
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« Reply #396 on: March 01, 2016, 09:45:12 PM »
Last of the puzzle pieces showed up. Pair of oem rear rotors, stahl machines steel 3 inch spacers and some ATE dot 4




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« Reply #397 on: March 01, 2016, 10:27:46 PM »
Were those spacers as much as I am seeing? $300 a set is hard to bite. I would use alloy on the rear, but not a steering axle.
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« Reply #398 on: March 01, 2016, 11:07:04 PM »
$335 shipped and be prepared to wait a month to get them.

They are the real deal.  No aluminum, pure steel, machined in the US and serial numbered for a lifetime warranty.

Not a fan of spacers, but if I have to run them, I want steel.
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« Reply #399 on: March 02, 2016, 05:38:12 PM »
Thanks Tate.  Its dangerous that you have my CC on file.  I could just call and say, "Tate, send me a locker for the front and rear of both trucks and some 4:11s for the Bus...." But then I'd have to add a dog house to that order....

tell ya what, you order gears and lockers for both ends on the dually and the bus and i'll build and ship you a very nicely appointed doghouse.
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