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Re: 2008 Jeep Jk 4 Door
« Reply #700 on: July 25, 2018, 10:45:57 AM »
I DO like those axles. we make a set of the d44 35 spline shafts for the 44 housing, and they follow a similar neck up, neck down design, less unsprung weight and reinforced at the stress points. Good buy Shawn.
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« Reply #701 on: July 25, 2018, 12:53:31 PM »
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« Reply #702 on: July 25, 2018, 02:50:36 PM »
Now if I understand correctly H is going to try third time being a charm in 2020?


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« Reply #703 on: July 25, 2018, 02:58:36 PM »
Now if I understand correctly H is going to try third time being a charm in 2020?


Wrong thread? Of course this is wrong ANYWHERE!!!


Isn't the stock 44 housing on those really weak?
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« Reply #704 on: July 25, 2018, 04:47:43 PM »
Now if I understand correctly H is going to try third time being a charm in 2020?


Wrong thread? Of course this is wrong ANYWHERE!!!


Isn't the stock 44 housing on those really weak?

JR, not so sure the housing is weak as it is the shafts. Although I believe this housing is much lighter duty than say those 70?s 3/4 ton front axle housings of old.

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It all went back together pretty easy other than me grabbing the short shaft and installing it on the long side.  :rolleyes: lol, I had to review the picture of the shafts (all 4 together) to confirm I somehow did that....

Worth noting the Currie housing has a bunch of adjustment built into it which is very nice. I had a 2 inch frame end track bar drop bracket for the lift kit installed which I was able to remove and use the mount on the axle to come up 2 inches at housing end. While I had it off I pressed in new bushing on both ends of track bar.

Other than that it was pretty straight forward, bought a 2 foot piece of rubber hose to extend vent & replaced a bottom shock bolt that was seized to the bushing on old axle.

I drove it on the front driveshaft into it's bay as I await the rear driveshaft. Once that comes I will install it, pull the front shaft and do a proper break in of the new diff. I think the next focus is to finish that front axle that has been taking up my large work bench for several months now.
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Re: 2008 Jeep Jk 4 Door
« Reply #705 on: July 25, 2018, 05:09:21 PM »
I DO like those axles. we make a set of the d44 35 spline shafts for the 44 housing, and they follow a similar neck up, neck down design, less unsprung weight and reinforced at the stress points. Good buy Shawn.

Good deal, and thanks again for all the parts help!

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Re: 2008 Jeep Jk 4 Door
« Reply #706 on: July 25, 2018, 06:53:33 PM »
I DO like those axles. we make a set of the d44 35 spline shafts for the 44 housing, and they follow a similar neck up, neck down design, less unsprung weight and reinforced at the stress points. Good buy Shawn.

Good deal, and thanks again for all the parts help!

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Are you saying that because hes on here, or have you had the displeasure of getting frustrated with the other techs you spoke with.......lol
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« Reply #707 on: July 25, 2018, 07:17:59 PM »
I sell Randy's parts I think that in of itself pretty much sums it up if nothing else.

As far as Tate, he's impressed me with what he actually knows tech wise about things. And yes, I have dealt with some frustrating techs before. I also consider Tate a friend on a personal level.  :likebutton:
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Re: 2008 Jeep Jk 4 Door
« Reply #708 on: July 25, 2018, 07:24:50 PM »
Your good brother, i was just trying to poke tater a little bit.

He does claim washington after all..... :shocked:  :facepalm:
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« Reply #709 on: July 25, 2018, 07:32:54 PM »
Your good brother, i was just trying to poke tater a little bit.

He does claim washington after all..... :shocked:  :facepalm:

& that is a huuuuuuge strike against him
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« Reply #710 on: July 25, 2018, 07:33:54 PM »

He does claim washington after all..... :shocked: :facepalm:



HUM... I need to think about this statement a bit. Didn't you live here for a while? In fact move back here after retirement??? NO FAIR BLAMING SOMEONE ELSE

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« Reply #711 on: July 25, 2018, 07:35:27 PM »
And the SeaChicken???


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« Reply #712 on: July 25, 2018, 07:39:08 PM »
Yeah, I might live in hippy ville but at least we have Broncos.... :popcorn:

my apologies for not painting the calipers btw Charles.
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« Reply #713 on: July 25, 2018, 09:05:37 PM »
I give, born and raised here with family ties so it is what it is. Sure like AZ in the winter however.

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« Reply #714 on: July 25, 2018, 09:09:10 PM »
Yeah, I might live in hippy ville but at least we have Broncos.... :popcorn:

my apologies for not painting the calipers btw Charles.

Lol. As long as you?re ok with it being slower and less reliable as a result...


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« Reply #715 on: July 25, 2018, 09:39:38 PM »
It?s a Jeep, I expect it.....
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Re: 2008 Jeep Jk 4 Door
« Reply #716 on: July 26, 2018, 12:27:08 AM »
It?s a Jeep, I expect it.....
I just hope the rear axle doesn't fall out. I know the guy that installed it. :)
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« Reply #717 on: July 26, 2018, 07:40:58 AM »
It?s a Jeep, I expect it.....
I just hope the rear axle doesn't fall out. I know the guy that installed it. :)
Edit: added smiley face to keep feelings from getting hurt

Luckily not hauling H around so that will help.... :wink:

Edit: added wink smiley face because you know I?d never haul H around!  :tongue:
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« Reply #718 on: July 26, 2018, 08:26:18 AM »
He does claim washington after all..... :shocked: :facepalm:
HUM... I need to think about this statement a bit. Didn't you live here for a while? In fact move back here after retirement??? NO FAIR BLAMING SOMEONE ELSE

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« Reply #719 on: July 26, 2018, 02:18:08 PM »
Shawn, Thanks for the shameless plug.
Nate, like JR in Kali I might live here, but I don't represent the short bus folks that run the place. And when there's a massive die off of the tide pod eating droolers out this way I'll have one of the prettiest pieces of America to myself right?
Tex, them's fightin' words. you're either badmouthing my team or my boat and either one of them could land you a fat lip!
Bob, you get the ambulance ready for when Tex knocks me flat...
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« Reply #720 on: July 26, 2018, 02:24:00 PM »
Sometimes in life I?ve had to learn to turn the other cheek Tate when I get hit and deserve it....


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« Reply #721 on: July 26, 2018, 02:38:17 PM »
Shawn, Thanks for the shameless plug.
Nate, like JR in Kali I might live here, but I don't represent the short bus folks that run the place. And when there's a massive die off of the tide pod eating droolers out this way I'll have one of the prettiest pieces of America to myself right?
Tex, them's fightin' words. you're either badmouthing my team or my boat and either one of them could land you a fat lip!
Bob, you get the ambulance ready for when Tex knocks me flat...

I still love you tate, and that's why when ever I need something from randys I call your direct extension or just hit you on the cell....lol
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« Reply #722 on: July 26, 2018, 02:43:58 PM »
Shawn, Thanks for the shameless plug.
Nate, like JR in Kali I might live here, but I don't represent the short bus folks that run the place. And when there's a massive die off of the tide pod eating droolers out this way I'll have one of the prettiest pieces of America to myself right?
Tex, them's fightin' words. you're either badmouthing my team or my boat and either one of them could land you a fat lip!
Bob, you get the ambulance ready for when Tex knocks me flat...

I still love you tate, and that's why when ever I need something from randys I call your direct extension or just hit you on the cell....lol
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« Reply #723 on: July 26, 2018, 02:52:49 PM »
Tater is developing quite the track record

Let us not forget that

* He made the C-Max project happen

* He made many things happen on SquareD

* And some other stuff I forgot about... :facepalm:
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« Reply #724 on: July 26, 2018, 05:17:48 PM »
Tater is developing quite the track record

Let us not forget that

* He made many things happen on SquareD

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« Reply #725 on: July 26, 2018, 05:23:19 PM »
Tater is developing quite the track record

Let us not forget that

* He made many things happen on SquareD

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« Reply #726 on: July 26, 2018, 06:27:07 PM »
Oh snap!
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« Reply #727 on: July 26, 2018, 08:43:38 PM »
But how do we know how well the parts worked on Dsquared?

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« Reply #728 on: July 26, 2018, 08:51:04 PM »
But how do we know how well the parts worked on Dsquared?

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« Reply #729 on: July 26, 2018, 08:54:36 PM »
But how do we know how well the parts worked on Dsquared?

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Depends on what the parts were. If it was the parking brake, I can attest to the fact that it hasn?t rolled down the hill it?s parked on over the last couple months. Other than that, can?t help you.


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« Reply #730 on: July 26, 2018, 10:26:37 PM »
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But how do we know how well the parts worked on Dsquared?

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Depends on what the parts were. If it was the parking brake, I can attest to the fact that it hasn?t rolled down the hill it?s parked on over the last couple months. Other than that, can?t help you.


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« Reply #731 on: July 27, 2018, 09:41:26 AM »
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« Reply #732 on: July 27, 2018, 03:58:13 PM »
:popcorn:
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« Reply #733 on: July 27, 2018, 05:54:57 PM »
Ok, back on task. Spoke with Jesse at High Angle Driveline?s this morning, new rear cv shaft is supposed to ship first of next week. All goes well I?ll get it installed and get you some better pictures. I need to touch up the paint on the axle, muscling it around by myself scratched it up a bit.
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« Reply #734 on: July 27, 2018, 06:40:29 PM »
Not painting the calipers but worried about a scratch on the diff paint???

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« Reply #735 on: July 27, 2018, 06:55:32 PM »
Not painting the calipers but worried about a scratch on the diff paint???

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I did paint the housing, the calipers are not new. Why would I paint them as they have 88k on them? Maybe the replacements will get painted, or come painted. I believe there is a large brake ugrade for them.
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« Reply #736 on: July 27, 2018, 09:02:02 PM »
I was going to ask if you needed to use a CV setup... Don't remember you mentioning it until now. Is it really necessary with that diff/lift combo?

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« Reply #737 on: July 27, 2018, 09:56:51 PM »
I was going to ask if you needed to use a CV setup... Don't remember you mentioning it until now. Is it really necessary with that diff/lift combo?

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I discussed it at length with Jesse, who?s been doing this as long as anyone. The total measured length was 47.875 honestly I could have gambled and if it was Off Road only went non cv. However, there was a chance going non cv I might get a vibration. So for $150 roughly more I went cv & then if I do a long arm conversion done the road it won?t matter.
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« Reply #738 on: July 27, 2018, 10:34:58 PM »
Good call imo

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« Reply #739 on: July 27, 2018, 11:31:16 PM »
Good call imo

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« Reply #740 on: July 28, 2018, 03:47:00 PM »
^^^ See that ^^^^^

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« Reply #741 on: August 12, 2018, 12:35:30 PM »
OK, so finally the rear new cv rear driveshaft showed up late Friday along with the new t-case flange. High angle drivelines did the work and Jess does quality work but he's taking quite a bit longer than normal.

So Saturday morning the wife and I went for coffee and picked up the box from our drop box. Packaged fairly well.





and yep, that's right using Ford cv joint head w/ bolts..

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« Reply #742 on: August 12, 2018, 12:38:05 PM »
Even marked the two sections just in case you had to take it apart which I did not.



And sorry, I got in such a hurry I forgot to snap a picture of the new flange for the t-case output. Threw a little gasket sealer on internal splines of the flange and torqued it down to 150# (range is 140-160)


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« Reply #743 on: August 12, 2018, 12:47:42 PM »
So after getting the front end buttoned up we moved on to the rear and since Great Lake Off Road makes these bomb proof girdles for spicer yokes (and I know that guy personally  :tongue:) so I decided to use a set on our rear yoke. GLO makes them for the GM corporate 14 bolt and has the Sterling rear axle yoke in development at the moment. Cough, cough SQ D...... :popcorn:

So after adding a bit of red loctite the low profile bolts were torqued into place.

Normally on a 9 rear I would run one of our pinion guards too. However, for this build I am not. I'm trying to be weight conscious.









Then I pulled the front shaft, threw it back into two wheel drive and parked it back in its bay to wait until tomorrow morning. At that time when it's cool out I will do a break in process on the new rear set up. Essentiallly driving it for 8-10 miles no longer than 15 minutes and then parking it in a cool spot for a cool down of 30 minutes. I will do this several times. After 300 or so miles I will be changing out the gear oil for some good high dollar lube probably in a 75w -140 weight. The deep gear set will be subject to some heat which is part of the reason for the extended break in process.

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« Reply #744 on: August 12, 2018, 01:28:32 PM »
Looks good Shawn - so, essentially, you're heat treating the new gears/assembly etc. while knocking off the burrs etc.?
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« Reply #745 on: August 12, 2018, 01:36:15 PM »
Looks good Shawn - so, essentially, you're heat treating the new gears/assembly etc. while knocking off the burrs etc.?

Essentially yes, granted the gears were already heat treated (side note my grandfather did this for a living in the heat treat at Warner gear which is now known as auburn gear). However, following this process will help eliminate any softening of the gears or burnt bearings. Which would then lead to premature failure possibly.


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« Reply #746 on: August 12, 2018, 06:22:44 PM »
Glad to see some progress on that jeep.  Axle and wheels look a lot better in person guys....  It's a cool set up.

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« Reply #747 on: August 12, 2018, 06:37:30 PM »
I'll take your word for it Ash. I ain't going anywhere near someone that is obsessed with girdles.

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« Reply #748 on: August 12, 2018, 06:55:59 PM »
I'll take your word for it Ash. I ain't going anywhere near someone that is obsessed with girdles.

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Thanks Ash, glad you could finally make it up this way!
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« Reply #749 on: August 12, 2018, 10:39:51 PM »
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