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Re: 3+3 2500
« Reply #250 on: February 15, 2019, 07:05:33 PM »
had i known these issues before hand.. i either wouldn’t have gone 35 spline, and after having done so wouldn’t have bought warns from the beginning. high hopes for these yukons. tate reassured me i was in the clear. and while there was no reason to cut the other side.. there also wasn’t a reason not to. (i’m too OCD to just ‘leave well enough alone’..) but pray for me. maybe i can do it. lol.

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« Reply #251 on: February 15, 2019, 07:27:13 PM »
I can’t stress this enough (and not because I’m a Yukon vendor either) Tate is and has a wealth of info on axles at his disposal. He doesn’t bite too hard, use him....
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« Reply #252 on: February 15, 2019, 07:34:48 PM »
i can’t wait to get these in the mail.

i just wish i had known earlier that these issues were around. and yukon has already figured them out.

called him the other day. really nice guy. easy to talk to and made the time for me.

thanks again tate.

will get back on this once the hubs arrive.

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Re: 3+3 2500
« Reply #253 on: February 15, 2019, 08:23:15 PM »
I can’t stress this enough (and not because I’m a Yukon vendor either) Tate is and has a wealth of info on axles at his disposal. He doesn’t bite too hard, use him....
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« Reply #254 on: February 16, 2019, 12:52:00 PM »
If your running the 35 spline setup 100% go with the Yukons and be done with issues, it would of saved me a lot of headache also.  I am using a lot of Yukon stuff now and its has given me ZERO issues!  Tate always makes me cry so I try not to talk to him much!

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« Reply #255 on: February 16, 2019, 03:15:22 PM »
I don’t cry but I do wonder why my wallet is always lighter after talking with him...
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« Reply #256 on: February 16, 2019, 08:56:55 PM »
I don’t cry but I do wonder why my wallet is always lighter after talking with him...

I feel like this is a common occurrence when folks talk with yourself as well. I’ve got a list of things that are to be ordered. Just not to that point yet.

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« Reply #257 on: February 16, 2019, 09:28:51 PM »
I don’t cry but I do wonder why my wallet is always lighter after talking with him...

I feel like this is a common occurrence when folks talk with yourself as well. I’ve got a list of things that are to be ordered. Just not to that point yet.

Well their is a common thread there, we both discount heavily to all RM knuckleheads excluding Dave’s & Ken’s.....
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« Reply #258 on: February 16, 2019, 11:52:58 PM »
I don’t cry but I do wonder why my wallet is always lighter after talking with him...

I feel like this is a common occurrence when folks talk with yourself as well. I’ve got a list of things that are to be ordered. Just not to that point yet.

Well their is a common thread there, we both discount heavily to all RM knuckleheads excluding Dave’s & Ken’s.....

And I thank yous for the discounts! Really helps when your endlessly bleeding money to complete the project.

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« Reply #259 on: February 17, 2019, 09:46:18 AM »
I don’t cry but I do wonder why my wallet is always lighter after talking with him...

I feel like this is a common occurrence when folks talk with yourself as well. I’ve got a list of things that are to be ordered. Just not to that point yet.

Well their is a common thread there, we both discount heavily to all RM knuckleheads excluding Dave’s & Ken’s.....
What kinda things do you self anyway?   I thought you were a crackerjack salesman?


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« Reply #260 on: February 17, 2019, 03:50:50 PM »
Close, popcorn
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« Reply #261 on: February 17, 2019, 05:53:12 PM »
Fastest invoice in the west,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
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« Reply #262 on: February 18, 2019, 02:31:12 PM »
Can't bleed em completely dry, then they can't come back to do it again! now, back to the truck build!
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« Reply #263 on: February 19, 2019, 10:26:37 PM »
parts came in. but i got sidetracked trying to finish up the building/upstairs office.

hoping to unwrap the axle and get back to work in the next couple days!


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« Reply #264 on: February 20, 2019, 07:56:16 AM »




to start with the packaging is far superior to that of the warns, which just came in a box all bouncing and sliding around. so.. after taking delivery,  yukon:1, warn:0
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« Reply #265 on: February 20, 2019, 08:43:44 AM »
Great choice you won’t be disappointed.
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« Reply #266 on: February 25, 2019, 07:36:41 PM »
let’s just start by saying.. never again will i use warns for 35 spline builds.


just because i have a mild case of OCD (wanting both sides to match)  and that my stub axles were factory and not yukon with 2 sets of snap rings, i had to regroove the passenger side also to get the large spring and snap ring to do their job holding the stub axle out and making the flex seal work..
this by no means reflects on the quality or R&D of yukon. from what i can tell it’s a difference in factory dana spicer abs the hardcore hubs..

so.. without further adue.
regrooved stub axle





what i was left with. now here i could have stopped and reassembled it all. but i would have laid in bed and twitched all night knowing the 2 different sides had 2 different length stub shafts. hahah





now.. this is where normal installs start



spring retainer



spacer



BAS..



inner and outer splined slugs



depressed in.. ready for snap ring



and in



cam and retaining flange (?)





large retaining snap ring





grease on inside of hub dial/cam. make sure the dial is in lock potion.

also applied some white lithium grease to the o rings. (there is one between the hub dial and the outer hub body that seals but also has to rotate with the hub when going from free to lock)



aaaaand done



drivers side as well..



passenger side install (without the cutting and grooving) took 27 min.. with taking pics. amazing quality and directions were spot on.

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« Reply #267 on: February 25, 2019, 07:43:14 PM »
:like  Amazing difference.  good update
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« Reply #268 on: February 25, 2019, 07:53:05 PM »
The engagement on those is so much better than the factory stuff.

Looks great.
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« Reply #269 on: February 25, 2019, 08:02:04 PM »
I like your OCD at work!


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« Reply #270 on: February 25, 2019, 08:45:18 PM »
Its a shame that Warn will not fix the 35spline outers, good for Yukon that they have not.

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« Reply #271 on: February 25, 2019, 09:01:29 PM »
Its a shame that Warn will not fix the 35spline outers, good for Yukon that they have not.

i compared the 30 spline hubs from my dads truck to the 35s.. same hub dial. identical. which is crazy.

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« Reply #272 on: February 25, 2019, 09:54:21 PM »
That fit and finish on the Yukon is simply top notch!


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« Reply #273 on: February 25, 2019, 10:57:53 PM »
Yeehaww!
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« Reply #274 on: March 12, 2019, 09:19:05 PM »
slow to no progress being made on the 3+3.. currently in oceanside CA working at pendleton putting in some live fire shoot houses for the beloved USMC..

hoping to be back at it end of march (while building another dana 60 and 203/205 doubler for a guy after he saw how the 60 and 205 i have turned out.. that should be fun!)

wanting to get the engine to fire after i get the harness modified.. that’ll be the real test.

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« Reply #275 on: March 21, 2019, 10:45:18 AM »
small, unnoticeable update.

got the harness sent off to FL to have it stripped down to stand alone configuration. also ordered EFI live with DSP5 switch so i can flash and tune the ECM sitting in the ground..

more (hopefully visible) updates to come. and maybe a video in the next couple weeks   :beercheers:

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« Reply #276 on: March 25, 2019, 10:36:40 PM »
something very long happened today



it’s abit rough and there are some unneeded bits on it (and botched state work add ons..) but that ladies and gentlemen is a true K30 3+3 4wd frame. should be a decent start to the build up of the frame (shorten, 52” spring conversion, engine mounts and cross member, trans crossmember install added PC’ing)

also picked up an elusive 29 spline NP205 with coupler for decent $$ if anyone on here needs one for a manual swap..

also have a 23 spline dodge tcase with coupler for an auto swap  :grin: hahaha

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« Reply #277 on: March 25, 2019, 11:59:50 PM »
Yep, 1/4 inch walls and I bet its not cracked around the steering box.

Nice find.
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« Reply #278 on: March 26, 2019, 01:29:53 PM »
i quickly compared the thickness to the R2500 i currently have and they appear to be the same?  the 2wd frame i have is in amazing shape, so once i can compare motor mounts and engine crossmembers, i’ll determine what the next step is.

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« Reply #279 on: March 26, 2019, 01:34:16 PM »
If I recall, the rails are the same with just the xmembers being the diff. I would replace with bolts and box the frame. Did that on a shortned 77.
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« Reply #280 on: March 27, 2019, 02:55:51 PM »
so the actual frames are the same? i’m curious now.. bc the 2wd frame is crazy clean. the square max guy in CA said that the frames and motor mounts were different somehow. i just don’t want to get crossed up.

i’m hoping to be able to test blast a small section of the frame to see how it cleans up. and if it’s nice i’ll just till with it. if not, back to using the 2wd frame

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« Reply #281 on: April 04, 2019, 07:06:12 AM »
EFI live/DSP 5 switch came in yesterday. harness should be here next week. ordered a new LBZ starter and LMM pedal (per the harness builders spec.. both connections and the pedals themselves are both cheaper and more readily available since LBZ were 2 year manufacture and the LMM style pedal is still in use today with the L5P.. so i went that route. decided to go new since it was $70 instead of the $40 i found used a couple places. means i should be able to rev the motor alittle once it fires! hah.

also, unrelated to the build of this truck, the dana 60 i built for the duramax got some attention from the fella i bought the 205 from, so i’m ‘selling’ him a dually dana 60 and then building it for him. not quite as ‘big’ as mine, but it should look the same. there’s another one down the road that will be full built to the Nth degree for him though.

first off was to move the SRW off the work bench.. and of course it had to get a stand.



new one goes on the bench.



womp womp
those DRW hubs are heavy! hah



stripped it down in maybe 2 hours total. hardest bolts to get off were the diff cover!!



everything just kinda fell apart.. almost too easily. glad i didn’t do this one first or i would have thought they were all like this.







all the pieces should be black by the weekend. then it will just be a matter of throwing it all back together with new parts.. and a dolly stand of course

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« Reply #282 on: April 04, 2019, 10:10:39 AM »
Its DANA heaven!

Watch the HF dolly. Mine are outdoors covered set up the same way but now are shaped like a U. Then the wheel broke on another and HF does not have replacements.
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« Reply #283 on: April 04, 2019, 11:10:12 AM »
it’s tractor supply.. but noted. i’m thinking of pulling the wheels off and using 2x4s as a cross member to hold 2 wheels. should be fine since i can make them sit right under uprights to bear the full weight and not let any on the flat plywood.

i’m thinking i’ll make them for every ‘customer’ so that they can be easily loaded/unloaded and moved around in the shop/under the vehicle with ease.

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« Reply #284 on: April 04, 2019, 04:19:29 PM »
Mine are on a 2x6 centered, figured it would be OK,,,,,,,,,
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« Reply #285 on: April 04, 2019, 05:49:33 PM »
ohh man.. better make sure it doesn’t sit like that for long then. hopefully i can get it under the truck sooner that later. lol.

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« Reply #286 on: April 05, 2019, 04:08:05 PM »
made a quick stop at the chevy dealership today..



new GM LBZ starter and LMM pedal.

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« Reply #287 on: April 05, 2019, 04:20:17 PM »
Better get some tractor supply Grey on those parts


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« Reply #288 on: April 05, 2019, 04:46:24 PM »
Better get some tractor supply Grey on those parts


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« Reply #289 on: April 05, 2019, 04:49:00 PM »
ignore the nasty that is this engine at the moment. i wanted to make sure it ran before dumping tons  of time into the cleanup.


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« Reply #290 on: April 06, 2019, 08:24:24 AM »
Better get some tractor supply Grey on those parts


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« Reply #291 on: April 06, 2019, 09:38:13 AM »
Your not done either bud


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« Reply #292 on: April 06, 2019, 06:42:23 PM »
just gonna sprinkle in some dana 60 build pics on here. just cause..














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« Reply #293 on: April 06, 2019, 07:58:35 PM »
That looks really sharp.  I either need a dodge or a SAS swap on the LB7....


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« Reply #294 on: April 06, 2019, 09:17:34 PM »
That looks really sharp.  I either need a dodge or a SAS swap on the LB7....


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SAS swap on the lb7, things are much more readily available.

swbhobie, nice job on the build. Look forward to see the LBZ make some noise!
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« Reply #295 on: April 06, 2019, 11:23:48 PM »
hoping it’ll be this week! harness should be in wednesday.

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« Reply #296 on: April 07, 2019, 11:29:54 AM »
thoughts on an anti wrap bar/traction bars for the square body? i just don’t like how low down the traction bars hang. is there any way to put them above the axle? does that effect performance/effectiveness of them?

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« Reply #297 on: April 07, 2019, 10:14:18 PM »
Cal tracs.  Above the axle bars.


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« Reply #298 on: April 08, 2019, 06:11:05 AM »
Cal tracs.  Above the axle bars.


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everything i saw from them (cursory search..) had them below the axle.

also, i wonder if i’ll even need them..?

just thinking of more crap to buy  :grin: hah

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« Reply #299 on: April 08, 2019, 07:11:33 AM »
You’re right. My bad


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