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Offline Flyin6

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Do Electric Cars really make sense?
« on: August 04, 2017, 08:48:19 AM »

 

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"At a neighborhood bbq I was talking to a neighbor, a BC Hydro executive. I asked him how that renewable thing was doing. He laughed, then got serious. If you really intend to adopt electric vehicles, he pointed out, you had to face certain realities. For example, a home charging system for a Tesla requires 75 amp service.
 
The average house is equipped with 100 amp service. On our small street (approximately 25 homes), the electrical infrastructure would be unable to carry more than 3 houses with a single Tesla, each. For even half the homes to have electric vehicles, the system would be wildly over-loaded.
 
This is the elephant in the room with electric vehicles . Our residential infrastructure cannot bear the load. So as our genius elected officials promote this nonsense, not only are we being urged to buy the damn things and replace our reliable, cheap generating systems with expensive, new windmills and solar cells, but we will also have to renovate our entire delivery system! This latter "investment" will not be revealed until we're so far down this dead end road that it will be presented with an oops and a shrug.
 
If you want to argue with a green person over cars that are eco-friendly, just read the following:
 
Note: If you ARE a green person, read it anyway. Enlightening.
 
Eric test drove the Chevy Volt at the invitation of General Motors...and he writes...For four days in a row, the fully charged battery lasted only 25  miles before the Volt switched to the reserve gasoline engine. Eric calculated the car got 30 mpg including the 25 miles it ran on the battery. So, the range including the 9 gallon gas tank and the 16 kwh battery is approximately 270 miles.
 
It will take you 4 1/2 hours to drive 270 miles at 60 mph. Then add 10 hours to charge the battery and you have a total trip time of 14.5 hours. In a typical road trip your average speed (including charging time) would be 20 mph.
 
According to General Motors, the Volt battery holds 16 kwh of electricity. It takes a full 10 hours to charge a drained battery. The cost for the electricity to charge the Volt is never mentioned so I looked up what I pay for electricity. I pay approximately (it varies with amount used and the seasons) $1.16 per kwh. 16 kwh x $1.16 per kwh = $18.56 to charge the battery. $18.56 per charge divided by 25 miles = $0.74 per mile to operate the Volt using the battery. Compare this to a similar size car with a gasoline engine that gets only 32 mpg. $3.19 per gallon divided by 32 mpg = $0.10 per mile.
 
The gasoline powered car costs about $15,000 while the Volt costs $46,000........So the American Government wants  loyal Americans not to do the math, but simply pay 3 times as much for a car, that costs more than 7 times as much to run, and takes 3 times longer to drive across the country....."
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Re: Do Electric Cars really make sense?
« Reply #1 on: August 04, 2017, 04:29:24 PM »
And that doesn't count the much higher enviromental cost of producing an electric car, especially the batteries.

2 words: Government subsidies
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Re: Do Electric Cars really make sense?
« Reply #2 on: August 04, 2017, 04:43:07 PM »
And that doesn't count the much higher enviromental cost of producing an electric car, especially the batteries.

2 words: Government subsidies
The batteries are the worst part of these things.
No one is talking about the hazmat that is the lithium...
Imagine that...
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Re: Do Electric Cars really make sense?
« Reply #3 on: August 06, 2017, 01:25:34 PM »
Ah, you let the cat out of the bag.

Until there is a big breakthrough in batteries (lithium are good, not great) and solar (10% eff, really?) electric cars will not be mainstream or cost effective.

I posted before but an H1 is more eff over its life than a prius. Buy the time you make the batteries and dispose of them it costs way more.

Funny that someone can build an electric car in their garage that is more eff than many out there now and go 100's of miles.
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